In what aspect of life are you best a cheapskate (aka summoning your inner Dave Ramsey thread)?
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F.O. Row Peter Puffer, you left...The main indulgence, however, was college for three kids. We paid for them to go where they got in and wanted to go and didn't insist on an in-state ROI discussions and all that. One kid got into UW honors college and wound up going to the most expensive school of her choices. That has entailed sacrifice. In one case, did it benefit the kid really? No, I don't think so. In another, it was clearly a good investment. And I think in this last one, it will prove to have been, but that story isn't entirely yet written.
I have drawn the line. The oldest came out talking about law school, and I figured she'd profile for one of the NW privates or public OOS, and I don't think her toolkit sets her up to be good lawyer. I told her that while both her sisters were in private college that there wasn't an extra $40k / yr. in the budget for her, so she'd have to borrow, and that I thought it was a risk for her at that time in her life. She needed to live a little off the family tit. She'd be ready for it now, but I think that moment has passed.
The second got into fully funded PhD programs in math and decided beyond the last minute she wanted a masters and will "think about a PhD". Masters are typically not funded. She miraculously found one that is close to fully funded, and we're helping with rent but I made her borrow a small amount for the balance. She's one who gets these opportunities people dream about and tends to take them for granted, so I thought she needed some skin in the game going forward.
The last one wants to get her PhD and be a practicing clinician. We shall see where that goes. Talking about a PhD is fun. Getting one is another matter. -
Agree, with this. I don't mind staying in a flea bag if it's just me but with the wife and kids much better to spend the money.creepycoug said:On indulgences, I'd say when we go on vacation we don't like to stay in cheap hotels. That's not a creepy snooty brand thing ... we're both people with a strong sense of place and we both value a nice lobby and room to return to after a long day out fucking around somewhere away from home. So while we don't do Four Seasons very often, we don't go low to save a few $$ on accommodations. Same with food. We spend for food.
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Low monthly housing cost relative to net income
We’re getting killed by all the gear needed to live in a resort town. New golf clubs, SUP for the Mrs, Mt Bikes for the whole fam, new fly Rod. I think Dave Ramsey says to live in Kansas or something.whlinder said:Own 1 vehicle for a long time and lease the other, much nicer one. Want to drive cheap ass vehicle 1 til it dies.
1 Kid helps a ton
I hate spending $$ on clothes but occasionally I will get decent stuff.
Luxury baubles... I don't do watches or toys like Jeeps/boats/motorcycles, but the country club and all my golf probably counts
No student loans and no sporting tickets. Vacations we do "efficient" but not cheap. -
I always say if we can't stay in the best room there is no point in leaving homecreepycoug said:On indulgences, I'd say when we go on vacation we don't like to stay in cheap hotels. That's not a creepy snooty brand thing ... we're both people with a strong sense of place and we both value a nice lobby and room to return to after a long day out fucking around somewhere away from home. So while we don't do Four Seasons very often, we don't go low to save a few $$ on accommodations. Same with food. We spend for food.
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Don't eat out much and/or go to bars
It's not worth it for sure. If you're gonna do it, save a bit more and do it right.creepycoug said:On indulgences, I'd say when we go on vacation we don't like to stay in cheap hotels. That's not a creepy snooty brand thing ... we're both people with a strong sense of place and we both value a nice lobby and room to return to after a long day out fucking around somewhere away from home. So while we don't do Four Seasons very often, we don't go low to save a few $$ on accommodations. Same with food. We spend for food.
Clothes are my number one on that. Buy good quality for the love of god. It's easy nowadays with men's stuff and direct order. Shoes in particular.
I like having fewer things but all good stuff. -
No car payments / own a vehicle for 10 + years
This makes me think back to when I was 16, and my folks were buying a new car. Pops used to say "I buy a new car every 10 years whether I need it or not". Mom got the new one, Dad got the old one. They brought me along to the Chevy dealership...my dad had a paper bag with him, which I thought was strange. Mom wanted a Monte Carlo (Carolina Blue)...she drove it, I drove it, Pops said "is it the one?" Yes. We go into the sales office, and the salesman must have thought this was the easiest sale ever.creepycoug said:I always like the confused look merchants get on their face when I counter an offer for near-zero financing with an equal up-front discount. Whether it's people selling washing machines or cars, 8 out of 10 have no idea the two are connected.
I splurged on myself once for a car, and that was the 2007 BMW coupe. First year of the body change, I loved driving it and bought it. I got like 120,000 miles on it and it broke me ever inch of the way. It was a lemon and I learned first hand that mechanics don't open the hood of a German sports car for < than $1,000. Never again.
We bought a new 2004 Toyota Sequoia and drove that thing into the ground ... > 350,000 miles. I bought a Highlander to replace it.
We have an MDX that has like 70,000 miles on it. I will not likely buy another car before I retire, and we intend to own only one. We currently have the insurance on the MDX suspended because we barely need one car as it is.
They are a necessity, and when they aren't running you feel the infringement on your freedom ... you appreciate what they do for you. But as much as I love a nice looking car, they aren't important enough to me to burn $$ on them. The BMW was the first and last time for that.
I also hate car payments.
He penciled it out to about $7,400, and when it was time to sign, the Old Man picked up the bag and put it on the desk. "What's that? That's what I'm paying". It was 5K. We got the asst. SM, then the SM, and they weren't having it. They started whittling it down, little by little, and every time, he picked up the bag to walk out. The owner was summoned, and asked my dad, "Have you bought a car from me before?". Yes. "Will you tell your friends to buy from me?" Yes. He looked at the salesman, disgustedly, and said "Sell him the goddam car" and walked out.
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I hade zero to one offspring total (i.e., avoided Grumble's Malthusian condition)
I've "lived" (for a month at a time) in Kansas. Hunting, fishing/boating on man made lakes.... uhhh... rodeo? Shitty golf (other than Prarie Dunes)?YellowSnow said:
We’re getting killed by all the gear needed to live in a resort town. New golf clubs, SUP for the Mrs, Mt Bikes for the whole fam, new fly Rod. I think Dave Ramsey says to live in Kansas or something.whlinder said:Own 1 vehicle for a long time and lease the other, much nicer one. Want to drive cheap ass vehicle 1 til it dies.
1 Kid helps a ton
I hate spending $$ on clothes but occasionally I will get decent stuff.
Luxury baubles... I don't do watches or toys like Jeeps/boats/motorcycles, but the country club and all my golf probably counts
No student loans and no sporting tickets. Vacations we do "efficient" but not cheap.
"Doing stuff" costs money. Recreation or vacations or drinking or sporting events.... if you do stuff, you spend money. If you don't, you save money.
Of course there has to be some point to life, so better to do stuff than not. -
Low monthly housing cost relative to net income
"Doing Stuff" is our biggest area of extravagance as a family. ATBSJBS, I think the doing stuff budget can vary a lot based on where one lives. I didn't do as much fun stuff in Seattle cause I hate dealing with weekend traffic and sharing the great out of doors with all the other douche canoes.whlinder said:
I've "lived" (for a month at a time) in Kansas. Hunting, fishing/boating on man made lakes.... uhhh... rodeo? Shitty golf (other than Prarie Dunes)?YellowSnow said:
We’re getting killed by all the gear needed to live in a resort town. New golf clubs, SUP for the Mrs, Mt Bikes for the whole fam, new fly Rod. I think Dave Ramsey says to live in Kansas or something.whlinder said:Own 1 vehicle for a long time and lease the other, much nicer one. Want to drive cheap ass vehicle 1 til it dies.
1 Kid helps a ton
I hate spending $$ on clothes but occasionally I will get decent stuff.
Luxury baubles... I don't do watches or toys like Jeeps/boats/motorcycles, but the country club and all my golf probably counts
No student loans and no sporting tickets. Vacations we do "efficient" but not cheap.
"Doing stuff" costs money. Recreation or vacations or drinking or sporting events.... if you do stuff, you spend money. If you don't, you save money.
Of course there has to be some point to life, so better to do stuff than not. -
Little or no student loan debtI invest in hard assets with half rate politicians on them

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Low monthly housing cost relative to net incomeLoneStarDawg said:
I invest in hard assets with half rate politicians on them







