Sir Mells, 2022 3* DT, Henderson (Liberty), NV (Considering options)
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If they aren’t gunna recruit which they won’t,dnc said:
This isn’t exactly playing to our strengthsbackthepack said:
Our only hope it seems is the transfer portal. Just become transfer u.chuck said:I sont think this guy is all that good. They wanted him, offered him, accepted his commit, and then lost him. That's all bad news. More of it.
I could use some words of wisdom and patience from one of the old people right now. I'm teetering on the edge of the cliff. I'm starting to feel like this could get Ty/Gilby bad.
This roster is night and day better than what RN left for Gilby or that Ty inherited. Gilby rode that to 6-6 before nearly going winless in year two. It's going to take Lake longer to see the full fruits of this ineptitude. UW might even compete for or win the league this season. I'm feeling more and more sure that rock bottom is coming again though.
My hope is they take a bunch of high ceiling developmental guys... wait nvm we can’t even hold onto those guys (Jones). Yeah we are fucked
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ntxduck said:
Isn’t this the kid Ruth was super amped about and did an entire series on how he was gonna bring a title to UW? Time cataclysmically spent roof.
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Malloe offered Mells. Jones is an TE/OLB so not sure about him.RoadDawg55 said:Don’t think it has to do with Kwat. He wasn’t a recruiter. They got offers, committed because of the excitement, and now have tons of other offers.
Fuck these guys. I don’t give a shit about 2024. Never have and it’s why as a fan I’ve always hated recruiting. Obviously it’s bad to lose these guys and just the overall news is mostly shitty.
Win the Pac 12 next year. That’s the only way to remedy this and even still, we’ll be behind the ball for the future after two shitty classes.
Not that either of these kids are can’t miss prospects, but it’s just continuing the downward momentum. The first power 5 offer and they bail immediately. It’s not like it’s Bama calling either.
Get your shit together, Jimmy. We better hold onto Bernard or we’re essentially starting over on the the 22 class. -
dawgs206 said:
Malloe offered Mells. Jones is an TE/OLB so not sure about him.RoadDawg55 said:Don’t think it has to do with Kwat. He wasn’t a recruiter. They got offers, committed because of the excitement, and now have tons of other offers.
Fuck these guys. I don’t give a shit about 2024. Never have and it’s why as a fan I’ve always hated recruiting. Obviously it’s bad to lose these guys and just the overall news is mostly shitty.
Win the Pac 12 next year. That’s the only way to remedy this and even still, we’ll be behind the ball for the future after two shitty classes.
Not that either of these kids are can’t miss prospects, but it’s just continuing the downward momentum. The first power 5 offer and they bail immediately. It’s not like it’s Bama calling either.
Get your shit together, Jimmy. We better hold onto Bernard or we’re essentially starting over on the the 22 class.
Yes, what is going on with recruiting? Does this staff have a problem with recruiting? -
I definitely want us to take transfers and the fact we have is probably the one good thing I can say for the Jimmy era recruiting wise.backthepack said:
If they aren’t gunna recruit which they won’t,dnc said:
This isn’t exactly playing to our strengthsbackthepack said:
Our only hope it seems is the transfer portal. Just become transfer u.chuck said:I sont think this guy is all that good. They wanted him, offered him, accepted his commit, and then lost him. That's all bad news. More of it.
I could use some words of wisdom and patience from one of the old people right now. I'm teetering on the edge of the cliff. I'm starting to feel like this could get Ty/Gilby bad.
This roster is night and day better than what RN left for Gilby or that Ty inherited. Gilby rode that to 6-6 before nearly going winless in year two. It's going to take Lake longer to see the full fruits of this ineptitude. UW might even compete for or win the league this season. I'm feeling more and more sure that rock bottom is coming again though.
My hope is they take a bunch of high ceiling developmental guys... wait nvm we can’t even hold onto those guys (Jones). Yeah we are fucked
Butt we'll never be transfer U. First of all we're too complicated to get into (and not willing to look the other way). Secondly our biggest program strength (at least under Pete and we have to hope and pray it continues to be a strength under Jimmy) is development. Transfers by definition get less time to develop here than a signed PSA.
Again, I'm pro transfer, but it should never be a major piece of the program, just a supplementary one. -
I hope I'm wrong about this but it just feels like the old TW, "I/we are above recruiting" bullshit. We've seen guys who they clearly wanted quoted as saying they aren't staying in touch like other schools. We've seen guys commit but dump them like a bad habit when other options come up. It's alarming, not so much for 2021 or even 2022, but beyond?HFNY said:dawgs206 said:
Malloe offered Mells. Jones is an TE/OLB so not sure about him.RoadDawg55 said:Don’t think it has to do with Kwat. He wasn’t a recruiter. They got offers, committed because of the excitement, and now have tons of other offers.
Fuck these guys. I don’t give a shit about 2024. Never have and it’s why as a fan I’ve always hated recruiting. Obviously it’s bad to lose these guys and just the overall news is mostly shitty.
Win the Pac 12 next year. That’s the only way to remedy this and even still, we’ll be behind the ball for the future after two shitty classes.
Not that either of these kids are can’t miss prospects, but it’s just continuing the downward momentum. The first power 5 offer and they bail immediately. It’s not like it’s Bama calling either.
Get your shit together, Jimmy. We better hold onto Bernard or we’re essentially starting over on the the 22 class.
Yes, what is going on with recruiting? Does this staff have a problem with recruiting? -
This is the most idiotic post in the history of this shithole ...RoadDawg55 said:Don’t think it has to do with Kwat. He wasn’t a recruiter. They got offers, committed because of the excitement, and now have tons of other offers.
Fuck these guys. I don’t give a shit about 2024. Never have and it’s why as a fan I’ve always hated recruiting. Obviously it’s bad to lose these guys and just the overall news is mostly shitty.
Win the Pac 12 next year. That’s the only way to remedy this and even still, we’ll be behind the ball for the future after two shitty classes.
Comment #1: I don’t care about recruiting and downstream implications ... win now and that solves problems
Comment #2: Even if we win now we’ll be behind the ball in the future because if shitty recruiting
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You're misreading or misrepresenting what he's saying.Tequilla said:
This is the most idiotic post in the history of this shithole ...RoadDawg55 said:Don’t think it has to do with Kwat. He wasn’t a recruiter. They got offers, committed because of the excitement, and now have tons of other offers.
Fuck these guys. I don’t give a shit about 2024. Never have and it’s why as a fan I’ve always hated recruiting. Obviously it’s bad to lose these guys and just the overall news is mostly shitty.
Win the Pac 12 next year. That’s the only way to remedy this and even still, we’ll be behind the ball for the future after two shitty classes.
Comment #1: I don’t care about recruiting and downstream implications ... win now and that solves problems
Comment #2: Even if we win now we’ll be behind the ball in the future because if shitty recruiting
Special kind of fucktarded here -
Roadie has never given a shit about recruiting ... this is a very on brand comment for himdnc said:
You're misreading or misrepresenting what he's saying.Tequilla said:
This is the most idiotic post in the history of this shithole ...RoadDawg55 said:Don’t think it has to do with Kwat. He wasn’t a recruiter. They got offers, committed because of the excitement, and now have tons of other offers.
Fuck these guys. I don’t give a shit about 2024. Never have and it’s why as a fan I’ve always hated recruiting. Obviously it’s bad to lose these guys and just the overall news is mostly shitty.
Win the Pac 12 next year. That’s the only way to remedy this and even still, we’ll be behind the ball for the future after two shitty classes.
Comment #1: I don’t care about recruiting and downstream implications ... win now and that solves problems
Comment #2: Even if we win now we’ll be behind the ball in the future because if shitty recruiting
Special kind of fucktarded here -
It's possible to understand the importance of recruiting while not personally getting invested in it.Tequilla said:
Roadie has never given a shit about recruiting ... this is a very on brand comment for himdnc said:
You're misreading or misrepresenting what he's saying.Tequilla said:
This is the most idiotic post in the history of this shithole ...RoadDawg55 said:Don’t think it has to do with Kwat. He wasn’t a recruiter. They got offers, committed because of the excitement, and now have tons of other offers.
Fuck these guys. I don’t give a shit about 2024. Never have and it’s why as a fan I’ve always hated recruiting. Obviously it’s bad to lose these guys and just the overall news is mostly shitty.
Win the Pac 12 next year. That’s the only way to remedy this and even still, we’ll be behind the ball for the future after two shitty classes.
Comment #1: I don’t care about recruiting and downstream implications ... win now and that solves problems
Comment #2: Even if we win now we’ll be behind the ball in the future because if shitty recruiting
Special kind of fucktarded here -
Sure ... that’s totally fairdnc said:
It's possible to understand the importance of recruiting while not personally getting invested in it.Tequilla said:
Roadie has never given a shit about recruiting ... this is a very on brand comment for himdnc said:
You're misreading or misrepresenting what he's saying.Tequilla said:
This is the most idiotic post in the history of this shithole ...RoadDawg55 said:Don’t think it has to do with Kwat. He wasn’t a recruiter. They got offers, committed because of the excitement, and now have tons of other offers.
Fuck these guys. I don’t give a shit about 2024. Never have and it’s why as a fan I’ve always hated recruiting. Obviously it’s bad to lose these guys and just the overall news is mostly shitty.
Win the Pac 12 next year. That’s the only way to remedy this and even still, we’ll be behind the ball for the future after two shitty classes.
Comment #1: I don’t care about recruiting and downstream implications ... win now and that solves problems
Comment #2: Even if we win now we’ll be behind the ball in the future because if shitty recruiting
Special kind of fucktarded here
Getting massively invested is probably not healthy ... but having enough of a pulse to know whether a coach is doing their job is part of evaluating them
Recruiting is a leading indicator ... dismiss or ignore at your own risk -
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Teq never seems to lose his boner for Roadie. Nit saying he wouldn't have responded to anyone else who posted that in Roadies place, but he wouldn't have been so county about it.dnc said:
It's possible to understand the importance of recruiting while not personally getting invested in it.Tequilla said:
Roadie has never given a shit about recruiting ... this is a very on brand comment for himdnc said:
You're misreading or misrepresenting what he's saying.Tequilla said:
This is the most idiotic post in the history of this shithole ...RoadDawg55 said:Don’t think it has to do with Kwat. He wasn’t a recruiter. They got offers, committed because of the excitement, and now have tons of other offers.
Fuck these guys. I don’t give a shit about 2024. Never have and it’s why as a fan I’ve always hated recruiting. Obviously it’s bad to lose these guys and just the overall news is mostly shitty.
Win the Pac 12 next year. That’s the only way to remedy this and even still, we’ll be behind the ball for the future after two shitty classes.
Comment #1: I don’t care about recruiting and downstream implications ... win now and that solves problems
Comment #2: Even if we win now we’ll be behind the ball in the future because if shitty recruiting
Special kind of fucktarded here
Roadie does, however, walk a fine line at times between expressing his own disinterest in rexeuiting and dismissing it as a lesser concern. In this case he kind of walks that line then acknowledges that shit recruiting is an issue. I infer that to be only if you care about 2024. I kind of do. -
You had the most idiotic post in this thread about Kwat being a reason they are decommitting. It’s not. They committed because they had no other offers. Now they have them. It’s really that simple but you needed to try to be smart and offer up that this is proof that Kwat is a big loss.Tequilla said:
This is the most idiotic post in the history of this shithole ...RoadDawg55 said:Don’t think it has to do with Kwat. He wasn’t a recruiter. They got offers, committed because of the excitement, and now have tons of other offers.
Fuck these guys. I don’t give a shit about 2024. Never have and it’s why as a fan I’ve always hated recruiting. Obviously it’s bad to lose these guys and just the overall news is mostly shitty.
Win the Pac 12 next year. That’s the only way to remedy this and even still, we’ll be behind the ball for the future after two shitty classes.
Comment #1: I don’t care about recruiting and downstream implications ... win now and that solves problems
Comment #2: Even if we win now we’ll be behind the ball in the future because if shitty recruiting
Special kind of fucktarded here -
Lake is obviously recruiting very poorly. It’s obvious. The only way to remedy it is to win next year. Most of the “leveling up” guys from those Clemson of the West classes are still on the team.chuck said:
Teq never seems to lose his boner for Roadie. Nit saying he wouldn't have responded to anyone else who posted that in Roadies place, but he wouldn't have been so county about it.dnc said:
It's possible to understand the importance of recruiting while not personally getting invested in it.Tequilla said:
Roadie has never given a shit about recruiting ... this is a very on brand comment for himdnc said:
You're misreading or misrepresenting what he's saying.Tequilla said:
This is the most idiotic post in the history of this shithole ...RoadDawg55 said:Don’t think it has to do with Kwat. He wasn’t a recruiter. They got offers, committed because of the excitement, and now have tons of other offers.
Fuck these guys. I don’t give a shit about 2024. Never have and it’s why as a fan I’ve always hated recruiting. Obviously it’s bad to lose these guys and just the overall news is mostly shitty.
Win the Pac 12 next year. That’s the only way to remedy this and even still, we’ll be behind the ball for the future after two shitty classes.
Comment #1: I don’t care about recruiting and downstream implications ... win now and that solves problems
Comment #2: Even if we win now we’ll be behind the ball in the future because if shitty recruiting
Special kind of fucktarded here
Roadie does, however, walk a fine line at times between expressing his own disinterest in rexeuiting and dismissing it as a lesser concern. In this case he kind of walks that line then acknowledges that shit recruiting is an issue. I infer that to be only if you care about 2024. I kind of do.
On paper, we are pretty stacked. A great season gets us attention. The final point in my earlier post was that Lake had a lackluster first real class and his current class is not off to a good start. That will very likely cost us down the line. -
It’s long known that players commit as much to the school/program as they do the coachesRoadDawg55 said:
You had the most idiotic post in this thread about Kwat being a reason they are decommitting. It’s not. They committed because they had no other offers. Now they have them. It’s really that simple but you needed to try to be smart and offer up that this is proof that Kwat is a big loss.Tequilla said:
This is the most idiotic post in the history of this shithole ...RoadDawg55 said:Don’t think it has to do with Kwat. He wasn’t a recruiter. They got offers, committed because of the excitement, and now have tons of other offers.
Fuck these guys. I don’t give a shit about 2024. Never have and it’s why as a fan I’ve always hated recruiting. Obviously it’s bad to lose these guys and just the overall news is mostly shitty.
Win the Pac 12 next year. That’s the only way to remedy this and even still, we’ll be behind the ball for the future after two shitty classes.
Comment #1: I don’t care about recruiting and downstream implications ... win now and that solves problems
Comment #2: Even if we win now we’ll be behind the ball in the future because if shitty recruiting
Special kind of fucktarded here
K is widely respected as a top DC ... he left and we backfilled with Bobby Gregory who most here would prefer to not be associated with the program
K would have effectively been Jones position coach ... K as a position coach was replaced by Malloe who frankly doesn’t have a track record of success coaching this particular position
Mells moved from having Malloe as his position coach to effectively a 1st time coach
Sure ... it’s also very possible that more offers/interest are contributing factors
I personally don’t think we lose kids in recruiting when those kids are bought into the direction of the program ...
I personally don’t question anybody at this point that looks at the direction of this program with a degree of skepticism -
I’d rip anybody that made those commentschuck said:
Teq never seems to lose his boner for Roadie. Nit saying he wouldn't have responded to anyone else who posted that in Roadies place, but he wouldn't have been so county about it.dnc said:
It's possible to understand the importance of recruiting while not personally getting invested in it.Tequilla said:
Roadie has never given a shit about recruiting ... this is a very on brand comment for himdnc said:
You're misreading or misrepresenting what he's saying.Tequilla said:
This is the most idiotic post in the history of this shithole ...RoadDawg55 said:Don’t think it has to do with Kwat. He wasn’t a recruiter. They got offers, committed because of the excitement, and now have tons of other offers.
Fuck these guys. I don’t give a shit about 2024. Never have and it’s why as a fan I’ve always hated recruiting. Obviously it’s bad to lose these guys and just the overall news is mostly shitty.
Win the Pac 12 next year. That’s the only way to remedy this and even still, we’ll be behind the ball for the future after two shitty classes.
Comment #1: I don’t care about recruiting and downstream implications ... win now and that solves problems
Comment #2: Even if we win now we’ll be behind the ball in the future because if shitty recruiting
Special kind of fucktarded here
Roadie does, however, walk a fine line at times between expressing his own disinterest in rexeuiting and dismissing it as a lesser concern. In this case he kind of walks that line then acknowledges that shit recruiting is an issue. I infer that to be only if you care about 2024. I kind of do.
I particularly rip Roadie because 1) he should know better and 2) back in his podding days he’d make similar shitastic takes that just make zero sense whatsoever
So if you want to say that I hold him to a higher standard ... that’s accurate
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Sure ... just win babyRoadDawg55 said:
Lake is obviously recruiting very poorly. It’s obvious. The only way to remedy it is to win next year. Most of the “leveling up” guys from those Clemson of the West classes are still on the team.chuck said:
Teq never seems to lose his boner for Roadie. Nit saying he wouldn't have responded to anyone else who posted that in Roadies place, but he wouldn't have been so county about it.dnc said:
It's possible to understand the importance of recruiting while not personally getting invested in it.Tequilla said:
Roadie has never given a shit about recruiting ... this is a very on brand comment for himdnc said:
You're misreading or misrepresenting what he's saying.Tequilla said:
This is the most idiotic post in the history of this shithole ...RoadDawg55 said:Don’t think it has to do with Kwat. He wasn’t a recruiter. They got offers, committed because of the excitement, and now have tons of other offers.
Fuck these guys. I don’t give a shit about 2024. Never have and it’s why as a fan I’ve always hated recruiting. Obviously it’s bad to lose these guys and just the overall news is mostly shitty.
Win the Pac 12 next year. That’s the only way to remedy this and even still, we’ll be behind the ball for the future after two shitty classes.
Comment #1: I don’t care about recruiting and downstream implications ... win now and that solves problems
Comment #2: Even if we win now we’ll be behind the ball in the future because if shitty recruiting
Special kind of fucktarded here
Roadie does, however, walk a fine line at times between expressing his own disinterest in rexeuiting and dismissing it as a lesser concern. In this case he kind of walks that line then acknowledges that shit recruiting is an issue. I infer that to be only if you care about 2024. I kind of do.
On paper, we are pretty stacked. A great season gets us attention. The final point in my earlier post was that Lake had a lackluster first real class and his current class is not off to a good start. That will very likely cost us down the line.
Fast forward in the recruiting cycle and if I’m recruiting against Jimmy I just continue to drill home that Jimmy’s winning with Pete’s players and that since taking over Jimmy hasn’t done dick in recruiting (among other things)
Reality is that Jimmy’s flat out wrote checks that he isn’t cashing ... and there’s no evidence of that changing -
I don't know that your pitch has any traction with me as a player. I shut you out right after you say, "He's winning". If he didn't recruit well, I think I'm the player that's going to change that. I would think if he can win with them he can win with me.Tequilla said:
Sure ... just win babyRoadDawg55 said:
Lake is obviously recruiting very poorly. It’s obvious. The only way to remedy it is to win next year. Most of the “leveling up” guys from those Clemson of the West classes are still on the team.chuck said:
Teq never seems to lose his boner for Roadie. Nit saying he wouldn't have responded to anyone else who posted that in Roadies place, but he wouldn't have been so county about it.dnc said:
It's possible to understand the importance of recruiting while not personally getting invested in it.Tequilla said:
Roadie has never given a shit about recruiting ... this is a very on brand comment for himdnc said:
You're misreading or misrepresenting what he's saying.Tequilla said:
This is the most idiotic post in the history of this shithole ...RoadDawg55 said:Don’t think it has to do with Kwat. He wasn’t a recruiter. They got offers, committed because of the excitement, and now have tons of other offers.
Fuck these guys. I don’t give a shit about 2024. Never have and it’s why as a fan I’ve always hated recruiting. Obviously it’s bad to lose these guys and just the overall news is mostly shitty.
Win the Pac 12 next year. That’s the only way to remedy this and even still, we’ll be behind the ball for the future after two shitty classes.
Comment #1: I don’t care about recruiting and downstream implications ... win now and that solves problems
Comment #2: Even if we win now we’ll be behind the ball in the future because if shitty recruiting
Special kind of fucktarded here
Roadie does, however, walk a fine line at times between expressing his own disinterest in rexeuiting and dismissing it as a lesser concern. In this case he kind of walks that line then acknowledges that shit recruiting is an issue. I infer that to be only if you care about 2024. I kind of do.
On paper, we are pretty stacked. A great season gets us attention. The final point in my earlier post was that Lake had a lackluster first real class and his current class is not off to a good start. That will very likely cost us down the line.
Fast forward in the recruiting cycle and if I’m recruiting against Jimmy I just continue to drill home that Jimmy’s winning with Pete’s players and that since taking over Jimmy hasn’t done dick in recruiting (among other things)
Reality is that Jimmy’s flat out wrote checks that he isn’t cashing ... and there’s no evidence of that changing
So far I don't think kids care much about their position coach's individual success, not really. If Malloe was recruiting me and he was still on staff and Lake, a defensive coach, was saying the defense was going to stay the same, I wouldn't much care that Rip was now my point of contact. Shit, half the kids Oregon and USC have signed have position coaches that haven't done shit to produce NFL talent but they don't seem to care.
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And I’d say you’re thinking like a logical adult and not like a 16-18 year old teenRealRhino said:
I don't know that your pitch has any traction with me as a player. I shut you out right after you say, "He's winning". If he didn't recruit well, I think I'm the player that's going to change that. I would think if he can win with them he can win with me.Tequilla said:
Sure ... just win babyRoadDawg55 said:
Lake is obviously recruiting very poorly. It’s obvious. The only way to remedy it is to win next year. Most of the “leveling up” guys from those Clemson of the West classes are still on the team.chuck said:
Teq never seems to lose his boner for Roadie. Nit saying he wouldn't have responded to anyone else who posted that in Roadies place, but he wouldn't have been so county about it.dnc said:
It's possible to understand the importance of recruiting while not personally getting invested in it.Tequilla said:
Roadie has never given a shit about recruiting ... this is a very on brand comment for himdnc said:
You're misreading or misrepresenting what he's saying.Tequilla said:
This is the most idiotic post in the history of this shithole ...RoadDawg55 said:Don’t think it has to do with Kwat. He wasn’t a recruiter. They got offers, committed because of the excitement, and now have tons of other offers.
Fuck these guys. I don’t give a shit about 2024. Never have and it’s why as a fan I’ve always hated recruiting. Obviously it’s bad to lose these guys and just the overall news is mostly shitty.
Win the Pac 12 next year. That’s the only way to remedy this and even still, we’ll be behind the ball for the future after two shitty classes.
Comment #1: I don’t care about recruiting and downstream implications ... win now and that solves problems
Comment #2: Even if we win now we’ll be behind the ball in the future because if shitty recruiting
Special kind of fucktarded here
Roadie does, however, walk a fine line at times between expressing his own disinterest in rexeuiting and dismissing it as a lesser concern. In this case he kind of walks that line then acknowledges that shit recruiting is an issue. I infer that to be only if you care about 2024. I kind of do.
On paper, we are pretty stacked. A great season gets us attention. The final point in my earlier post was that Lake had a lackluster first real class and his current class is not off to a good start. That will very likely cost us down the line.
Fast forward in the recruiting cycle and if I’m recruiting against Jimmy I just continue to drill home that Jimmy’s winning with Pete’s players and that since taking over Jimmy hasn’t done dick in recruiting (among other things)
Reality is that Jimmy’s flat out wrote checks that he isn’t cashing ... and there’s no evidence of that changing
So far I don't think kids care much about their position coach's individual success, not really. If Malloe was recruiting me and he was still on staff and Lake, a defensive coach, was saying the defense was going to stay the same, I wouldn't much care that Rip was now my point of contact. Shit, half the kids Oregon and USC have signed have position coaches that haven't done shit to produce NFL talent but they don't seem to care. -
Don’t stop, guys....
I’m close to finishing.... -
He’s fat. Good fit.
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This feels similar to Shipley. No one was excited but all the big recruiters on the West Coast wanted him.
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Coaches all think they can develop anyone who wants.to put in work. Kid has the frame to be a good DT in 3 years. Difference will be the intangibleslawsandl said:This feels similar to Shipley. No one was excited but all the big recruiters on the West Coast wanted him.
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Sounds like we’re still full -
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Imagine paying for that. Kim just told someone to tone it down calling him out.thechatch said: -
Except UW didn't. Not on Shipley. Details in the Wamlawsandl said:This feels similar to Shipley. No one was excited but all the big recruiters on the West Coast wanted him.
