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So not mega farm Biden donors.TheKobeStopper said:
Convenient timing.RaceBannon said:
OK I'm in. Most subsidies go to mega farm Biden donors anywayTheKobeStopper said:
Let’s get rid of farming subsidies and see how that 30% of America’s wealth in red counties holds up.TurdBomber said:Apparently the term "subsidy" is new to you, @TheKobeStopper
https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2019/12/31/790261705/farmers-got-billions-from-taxpayers-in-2019-and-hardly-anyone-objected
The "trade war" with China, in which I was rooting for the US, did cause some damage and it was paid for
You didn't complain when Obama launched an ethanol boondoggle either. Funny how that works
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There it is. Amazing so many Bidenrubes still can't see it.WestlinnDuck said:Biggest scam is ethanol. Both parties are in on the scam. Billions to Iowa and Midwest millionaire corn farmers.
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I don’t know, some idiot wore a “make potato’s great again” hat to Trump signing a $16 billion farm aid package so he probably got something.SFGbob said:
I object. You think Biden is going to end them? Btw, how much subsidies do potato farmers receive?TheKobeStopper said:
Convenient timing.RaceBannon said:
OK I'm in. Most subsidies go to mega farm Biden donors anywayTheKobeStopper said:
Let’s get rid of farming subsidies and see how that 30% of America’s wealth in red counties holds up.TurdBomber said:Apparently the term "subsidy" is new to you, @TheKobeStopper
https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2019/12/31/790261705/farmers-got-billions-from-taxpayers-in-2019-and-hardly-anyone-objected -
https://thoughtco.com/us-farm-subsidies-3325162
In 1930, according to the USDA Census of Agriculture Historical Archive, nearly 25% of the population—roughly 30,000,000 people—lived on the nation's nearly 6.5 million farms and ranches. The original intent of U.S. farm subsidies was to provide economic stability to farmers during the Great Depression and ensure a steady domestic food supply for Americans.
Me - I laughed because once a government program is in it is damn near impossible to get out
However, by 2017, the number of people living on farms had dwindled to about 3.4 million and the number of farms just over two million. These data suggest it's more difficult than ever to make a living farming—hence the need for subsidies, according to proponents.
The U.S. government presently pays about $25 billion in cash annually to farmers and owners of farmland. Congress typically legislates the number of farm subsidies through five-year farm bills. The Agricultural Act of 2014 (the Act), also known as the 2014 Farm Bill, was signed by President Obama on February 7, 2014.
Like its predecessors, the 2014 farm bill was derided as bloated pork-barrel politics by a plethora of Congress members, both liberals, and conservatives, who hail from non-farming communities and states. However, the powerful farm industry lobby and members of Congress from agriculture-heavy states won out.
Farm subsidies don't benefit all farms equally. According to the Cato Institute, farmers of corn, soybeans, and wheat receive more than 70% of farm subsidies. These are also usually the largest farms.
While the general public may believe that the majority of subsidies go to helping small family operations, the primary beneficiaries are instead the largest producers of certain commodities:
"Despite the rhetoric of 'preserving the family farm,' the vast majority of farmers do not benefit from federal farm subsidy programs and most of the subsidies go to the largest and most financially secure farm operations. Small commodity farmers qualify for a mere pittance, while producers of meat, fruits, and vegetables are almost completely left out of the subsidy game."
Me - the subsidies go to export crops that are subject to tariffs and trade wars and stuff.
According to the Environmental Working Group, from 1995 through 2016, reports the seven states received the majority of subsidies, nearly 45% of all benefits paid to farmers. Those states and their respective shares of total U.S. farm subsidies were:
Texas - 9.6%
Iowa - 8.4%
Illinois - 6.9%
Minnesota - 5.8%
Nebraska - 5.7%
Kansas - 5.5%
North Dakota - 5.3%
Me - I winged it on the Biden donor smack and got busted. But now you have the rest of the story
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Bzzzzt, wrong. Potatoes, like most crops receive no Federal subsidies. So they "probably" got nothing. Funny how a guy with such superior education was ignorant of that fact. Now maybe you can take a stab at the question you're dodging like a Kunt.TheKobeStopper said:
I don’t know, some idiot wore a “make potato’s great again” to Trump signing a $16 billion farm aid package so he probably got something.SFGbob said:
I object. You think Biden is going to end them? Btw, how much subsidies do potato farmers receive?TheKobeStopper said:
Convenient timing.RaceBannon said:
OK I'm in. Most subsidies go to mega farm Biden donors anywayTheKobeStopper said:
Let’s get rid of farming subsidies and see how that 30% of America’s wealth in red counties holds up.TurdBomber said:Apparently the term "subsidy" is new to you, @TheKobeStopper
https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2019/12/31/790261705/farmers-got-billions-from-taxpayers-in-2019-and-hardly-anyone-objected -
Many industries are struggling during this pandemic, particularly the agricultural supply chain. In order to help, Secretary of Agriculture Sonny Perdue announced that 470 million dollars would be used to purchase a wide variety of products in separate markets. The money would assist in supporting struggling agricultural producers due to the disruption of the markets due to the Coronavirus.
Fifty million dollars will be designated towards the potato industry, especially since they have been losing a great deal of their income. The aid will assist in getting potatoes back out onto the food-service pipeline.
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Covid Aid is not a Crop subsidy and if you're going to start counting that as a federal subsidy then every fucking business in the country received a federal "subsidy."TheKobeStopper said:
Dumb as dog shit and twice as dishonest. Why are you such a Kunt that you can't answer the question about Poverty Kobe?
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So they do take federal money?
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Just like every other business in the country did. You really want to die on this disingenuous hill?TheKobeStopper said:So they do take federal money?
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People are dying of covid and you want to argue this?TheKobeStopper said:So they do take federal money?
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Only old people with pre existing conditions. Our death panels have deemed their deaths as acceptable.RaceBannon said:
People are dying of covid and you want to argue this?TheKobeStopper said:So they do take federal money?
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Kobe taps out.TheKobeStopper said:
Only old people with pre existing conditions. Our death panels have deemed their deaths as acceptable.RaceBannon said:
People are dying of covid and you want to argue this?TheKobeStopper said:So they do take federal money?
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More young women for meTheKobeStopper said:
Only old people with pre existing conditions. Our death panels have deemed their deaths as acceptable.RaceBannon said:
People are dying of covid and you want to argue this?TheKobeStopper said:So they do take federal money?
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I’m not dying on anything. I don’t even know why we’re talking about potato’s. I just thought this was funny.SFGbob said:
Just like every other business in the country did. You really want to die on this disingenuous hill?TheKobeStopper said:So they do take federal money?
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We're talking about potatoes because you're a fucking moron who thinks that all Red agricultural counties receive crop subsides.TheKobeStopper said:
I’m not dying on anything. I don’t even know why we’re talking about potato’s. I just thought this was funny.SFGbob said:
Just like every other business in the country did. You really want to die on this disingenuous hill?TheKobeStopper said:So they do take federal money?
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Strawman.SFGbob said:
We're talking about potatoes because you're a fucking moron who thinks that all Red agricultural counties receive crop subsides.TheKobeStopper said:
I’m not dying on anything. I don’t even know why we’re talking about potato’s. I just thought this was funny.SFGbob said:
Just like every other business in the country did. You really want to die on this disingenuous hill?TheKobeStopper said:So they do take federal money?
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Yeah, strawman.TheKobeStopper said:
Strawman.SFGbob said:
We're talking about potatoes because you're a fucking moron who thinks that all Red agricultural counties receive crop subsides.TheKobeStopper said:
I’m not dying on anything. I don’t even know why we’re talking about potato’s. I just thought this was funny.SFGbob said:
Just like every other business in the country did. You really want to die on this disingenuous hill?TheKobeStopper said:So they do take federal money?
Let’s get rid of farming subsidies and see how that 30% of America’s wealth in red counties holds up.
A liar and a moron, nice work Kobe. -
Saying removing farming subsidies would hurt wealth in red counties isn’t the same as saying all red agricultural counties receive crop subsidies. Hence, strawman.
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Saying that removing farming subsidies would impact the wealth of "red counties" when the overwhelming majority of all red counties don't receive a dime in Federal Crop subsidies just shows you to be an ignorant fool with a big mouth. Denying you were claiming this just show that you're a liar. And of course you still are dodging the question about poverty you were asked so you can add coward to the list.TheKobeStopper said:Saying removing farming subsidies would hurt wealth in red counties isn’t the same as saying all red agricultural counties receive crop subsidies. Hence, strawman.
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Sometimes it's best to just take the L.TheKobeStopper said:So they do take federal money?
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Alright let’s try this very slowly.SFGbob said:
Saying that removing farming subsidies would impact the wealth of "red counties" when the overwhelming majority of all red counties don't receive a dime in Federal Crop subsidies just shows you to be an ignorant fool with a big mouth. Denying you were claiming this just show that you're a liar. And of course you still are dodging the question about poverty you were asked so you can add coward to the list.TheKobeStopper said:Saying removing farming subsidies would hurt wealth in red counties isn’t the same as saying all red agricultural counties receive crop subsidies. Hence, strawman.
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Retreat!!!!! The overwhelming majority of all Red counties don't receive a dime of Federal Crop subsidy. Until today, you didn't know this and you didn't know that only a handful of crops get Federal support. Fuck off.TheKobeStopper said:
Alright let’s try this very slowly.SFGbob said:
Saying that removing farming subsidies would impact the wealth of "red counties" when the overwhelming majority of all red counties don't receive a dime in Federal Crop subsidies just shows you to be an ignorant fool with a big mouth. Denying you were claiming this just show that you're a liar. And of course you still are dodging the question about poverty you were asked so you can add coward to the list.TheKobeStopper said:Saying removing farming subsidies would hurt wealth in red counties isn’t the same as saying all red agricultural counties receive crop subsidies. Hence, strawman.
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By your own admission, they’ve all received federal support.
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Yeah, there are people living in those Red Counties that draw Social Security checks. I guess your bullshit really was true.TheKobeStopper said:By your own admission, they’ve all received federal support.
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Medina. Blue.TheKobeStopper said:
Alright let’s try this very slowly.SFGbob said:
Saying that removing farming subsidies would impact the wealth of "red counties" when the overwhelming majority of all red counties don't receive a dime in Federal Crop subsidies just shows you to be an ignorant fool with a big mouth. Denying you were claiming this just show that you're a liar. And of course you still are dodging the question about poverty you were asked so you can add coward to the list.TheKobeStopper said:Saying removing farming subsidies would hurt wealth in red counties isn’t the same as saying all red agricultural counties receive crop subsidies. Hence, strawman.
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U B da Ho. So the judges will allow.TheKobeStopper said:
No slut shaming.Kaepsknee said:
Is it the TDS or just some later onset syphylis that drives your thought process?TheKobeStopper said:
What poverty? They’re all fat and have iPhones.Kaepsknee said:
Our?TheKobeStopper said:
Totally. That’s why all the richest states are blue and the poorest states are red, our terrible economic policies that make people even poorer.Bob_C said:Sure, likely true. You want to make them even poorer with federal policy.
Kreist. If you live in a big city than everything is more expensive and wages are then, naturally higher. That’s where the min wage is already close to $15 an hour. And every big city outside of Texas is blue. The rest have been Governed by Democrats for decades. Tell me how these rich blue states have done anything to lift people out of poverty? -
Northern California and Western Washington happens to be where the tech giants happen to be. It doesn’t make any of those areas special with special people. Fuck without the Microsoft and its trickle down and Amazon, Seattle would be fucking Everett now that Boeing is all but gone.TheKobeStopper said:
Once they’ve used all the resources in blue states to become successful why do they move to a place that lowers taxes to entice them there? That’s seriously your question?Tequilla said:
Since you're so smart, care to explain why so many businesses are relocating to Texas?TheKobeStopper said:All the money in the country is in blue states.
All the money in red states is in blue cities.
All those red counties that republicans love to point out during presidential elections equals 30% of this countries wealth. 2500 counties out of 3000.
This is the worlds lone super power, a couple years ago we had the greatest economy in history and it was all blue. You are the economic crumbs we wipe off on our pants.
Why are there so many more businesses becoming successful in blue states to begin with?
