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YellowSnow
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Dont even try arguing with these fucking idiots anymore. Ive given up.
Gregory sucks for producing, but Huff is cool because he recruits underperforming blue chips -
Don't care about Gregory being DC. We looked like shit last year with Kwat, so what's the difference.
To me, this latest hiring cycle just shows how little juice Jimmy has right now. For some reason Sark was bringing in hot assistants and recruiters from outside the program when he wanted to.
Jimmy has attracted zero established coaches from outside the program. Zero established recruiters.
For a school like UW you should be able to get guys who have proven something in P5 football. -
Gerg is not a bad coach. He obviously can get guys to the league (how many of those 6 were recruited by Bob is up for debate). The issue is that Bob fucking Gregory is a pair of New Balances. Yes they're shoes, but no one gives a fuck about New Balance. When the program needed any spark, James Lake decided to go with the DSW of coaching hires. When you needed a spark, you got a Toyota Corolla with 143,000 miles. He better be a fucking home run DC because he sure as shit ain't pulling his weight in recruiting which means if he struggles he's the equivalent of a hemorrhoid.
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Half of those LBs were OLBs and not in BG's position group. The ILBs who were drafted were Azeem, Keishawn, and BBK. So only 1 player BG recruited has gotten drafted.YellowSnow said: -
Sark’s recruits
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In fairness I didn't look up which of the 6 were inside vs outside.insinceredawg said:
Half of those LBs were OLBs and not in BG's position group. The ILBs who were drafted were Azeem, Keishawn, and BBK. So only 1 player BG recruited has gotten drafted.YellowSnow said: -
Doogs hate facts.insinceredawg said:
Half of those LBs were OLBs and not in BG's position group. The ILBs who were drafted were Azeem, Keishawn, and BBK. So only 1 player BG recruited has gotten drafted.YellowSnow said:
Wellington and manu actually started for us just three years after a playoff appearance. Fireanle offense. But bobs great.
Honestly I don’t worry about him running a defense. He has a decent track record. He just sucks at roster management and recruiting which are ya know, important. -
So we have Shaq, Kikaha, Feeney, Victor, Bierria, and BBK. Bob solidly gets credit for the last one. And he didn't recruit Bierria or Victor, but they developed under his watch so I'll give to them to him too. Feeney? I don't recall where exactly he lined up, but I want to say he was in Choate's group. Shaq and Kikaha? Not even close.insinceredawg said:
Half of those LBs were OLBs and not in BG's position group. The ILBs who were drafted were Azeem, Keishawn, and BBK. So only 1 player BG recruited has gotten drafted.YellowSnow said:
But 2014-18 aren't even the fucking problem. Our LB unit was good to great during those years. The massive dropoff in 2019 and 2020 were inexcusable. And they were telegraphed years in advance with complete whiffs in recruiting. Couple that with an abortion of a special teams unit, and it's not hard to see why people think Bob sucks. -
Imagine watching Husky football in 2019 and 2020 and thinking the linebackers and special teams produced.PostGameOrangeSlices said:Dont even try arguing with these fucking idiots anymore. Ive given up.
Gregory sucks for producing, but Huff is cool because he recruits underperforming blue chips -
Wasting your breath. Not on Yella, but others. The case against Bob is a bit too nuanced for some, apparently.insinceredawg said:
Half of those LBs were OLBs and not in BG's position group. The ILBs who were drafted were Azeem, Keishawn, and BBK. So only 1 player BG recruited has gotten drafted.YellowSnow said:
He might be a good DC though. -
Gregory stepping into where Kawasaki was adds 2 years (Gregory is 57 and Kawasaki is 55) but Rip Rowan is only 29 and Malloe is what, 45 or 46?
All in all, the Defensive staff lost a 55 year old coach and gained a 29 year old coach. I just hope the new energy leads to more recruiting juice in the front 7. -
Putting BBK and soon to be Ulofoshio in the league ain’t nothing too poo poo.insinceredawg said:
Half of those LBs were OLBs and not in BG's position group. The ILBs who were drafted were Azeem, Keishawn, and BBK. So only 1 player BG recruited has gotten drafted.YellowSnow said:
Look I don’t know if Gregory is gonna suck or not as DC, but this place sure gets in a funk at the hires which lack sizzle. -
Bob’s cardinal sin is that there were a couple of lean years in recruiting that were back to back and compounded
Reality is that the depth in the ILB room right now is pretty good ... we have options -
We have one inside linebacker that we know is good. The rest could suck for all we know. Not impressed with sirmon and everyone else gave up 4 TD’s in one quarter vs Arizona’s starters. That’s all we know.Tequilla said:Bob’s cardinal sin is that there were a couple of lean years in recruiting that were back to back and compounded
Reality is that the depth in the ILB room right now is pretty good ... we have options -
"developing talent" has got to be one the single fakest things in all of sports. #1:
recruitpay for it. #2: don't fuck it up. You taught a huge, quick twitch, smart, hard working dude who only played 1 year of sportsball to be elite? Shocking! -
I also have high expectations. I like the depth better now than at any time in memory. You're totally correct though. They haven't shown shit so far. The short season probably robbed us of seeing some good play out of them to go along with quite a bit more bad play.AtomicDawg said:
We have one inside linebacker that we know is good. The rest could suck for all we know. Not impressed with sirmon and everyone else gave up 4 TD’s in one quarter vs Arizona’s starters. That’s all we know.Tequilla said:Bob’s cardinal sin is that there were a couple of lean years in recruiting that were back to back and compounded
Reality is that the depth in the ILB room right now is pretty good ... we have options -
Eddie walked on here guys. Let’s not pretend bob knew wtf he was doing
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I'll just put it this way ... one of the big things that was talked about often back in the days when we gave enough of a shit about UW football to try to podcast was how it's not about the names but about getting enough talented people in a room and letting them figure out who is going to play (cream rising to the top).AtomicDawg said:
We have one inside linebacker that we know is good. The rest could suck for all we know. Not impressed with sirmon and everyone else gave up 4 TD’s in one quarter vs Arizona’s starters. That’s all we know.Tequilla said:Bob’s cardinal sin is that there were a couple of lean years in recruiting that were back to back and compounded
Reality is that the depth in the ILB room right now is pretty good ... we have options
There's talented guys in that room right now ...
I wouldn't put a ton of stock in 2020 results for young backups because they didn't get the development time during the Spring and likely the Fall that is really needed to dramatically get better. I suspect that we'll see that happen in the 2021 offseason. Also important to remember that Calvert had a significant injury so the loss of the 2020 rep building period definitely didn't help him.
As crazy as it sounds this is one of the better areas of our defensive roster in terms of depth going forward. -
It's not fake, it's just incredibly difficult to discern. There's no way to know how much of a role a coach played with one single player. You have to look at the entire body of work and evaluate that.dtd said:"developing talent" has got to be one the single fakest things in all of sports. #1:
recruitpay for it. #2: don't fuck it up. You taught a huge, quick twitch, smart, hard working dude who only played 1 year of sportsball to be elite? Shocking! -
^ agreed.GreenRiverGatorz said:
It's not fake, it's just incredibly difficult to discern. There's no way to know how much of a role a coach played with one single player. You have to look at the entire body of work and evaluate that.dtd said:"developing talent" has got to be one the single fakest things in all of sports. #1:
recruitpay for it. #2: don't fuck it up. You taught a huge, quick twitch, smart, hard working dude who only played 1 year of sportsball to be elite? Shocking!
Some coaches are better than others at coaching. That should be a no shit statement.
There’s also a lot of shit that assistants do for their position group that people never see. It’s not just limited to football. Think of how dumb most 18-23 year old dudes are. Then imagine those 18-23 year olds are giants full of testosterone and rhino cum in a fish bowl where they’re mini celebrities. -
@CallMeBigErn are you bob Gregory?
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Nah, your posts just reek of retard.FireCohen said:@CallMeBigErn are you bob Gregory?
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Chucky, I don't help run the show at HCH because I'm good at football knowledge. Lulz.chuck said:
Wasting your breath. Not on Yella, but others. The case against Bob is a bit too nuanced for some, apparently.insinceredawg said:
Half of those LBs were OLBs and not in BG's position group. The ILBs who were drafted were Azeem, Keishawn, and BBK. So only 1 player BG recruited has gotten drafted.YellowSnow said:
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Doog on!!!CallMeBigErn said:
Nah, your posts just reek of retard.FireCohen said:@CallMeBigErn are you bob Gregory?
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Sure you are yella. Your post was good. It's the shit support you got that ruined the discussion.YellowSnow said:
Chucky, I don't help run the show at HCH because I'm good at football knowledge. Lulz.chuck said:
Wasting your breath. Not on Yella, but others. The case against Bob is a bit too nuanced for some, apparently.insinceredawg said:
Half of those LBs were OLBs and not in BG's position group. The ILBs who were drafted were Azeem, Keishawn, and BBK. So only 1 player BG recruited has gotten drafted.YellowSnow said:
He might be a good DC though. -
to be honest lots of us were skeptical of the sizzle hire. and then we were tricked into thinking it was good, then we faced reality and it sucks. then we were able to go into a grand funk again. and again again.YellowSnow said:
Putting BBK and soon to be Ulofoshio in the league ain’t nothing too poo poo.insinceredawg said:
Half of those LBs were OLBs and not in BG's position group. The ILBs who were drafted were Azeem, Keishawn, and BBK. So only 1 player BG recruited has gotten drafted.YellowSnow said:
Look I don’t know if Gregory is gonna suck or not as DC, but this place sure gets in a funk at the hires which lack sizzle. -
nobody is worried about gregory coaching the defense, they are worried about gregory coaching a defense with 5 PWOs hth
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I'm worried about Gregory coaching the defense. I'm less worried about recruiting now that he presumably no longer has to do anything. Not to imply that he was doing anything beforehand either.WilburHooksHands said:nobody is worried about gregory coaching the defense, they are worried about gregory coaching a defense with 5 PWOs hth
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Nobody knows until they play. Just the harsh reality. They can improve sure. But we have a lot of kids that are close in class so this could get thin real quick.Tequilla said:
I'll just put it this way ... one of the big things that was talked about often back in the days when we gave enough of a shit about UW football to try to podcast was how it's not about the names but about getting enough talented people in a room and letting them figure out who is going to play (cream rising to the top).AtomicDawg said:
We have one inside linebacker that we know is good. The rest could suck for all we know. Not impressed with sirmon and everyone else gave up 4 TD’s in one quarter vs Arizona’s starters. That’s all we know.Tequilla said:Bob’s cardinal sin is that there were a couple of lean years in recruiting that were back to back and compounded
Reality is that the depth in the ILB room right now is pretty good ... we have options
There's talented guys in that room right now ...
I wouldn't put a ton of stock in 2020 results for young backups because they didn't get the development time during the Spring and likely the Fall that is really needed to dramatically get better. I suspect that we'll see that happen in the 2021 offseason. Also important to remember that Calvert had a significant injury so the loss of the 2020 rep building period definitely didn't help him.
As crazy as it sounds this is one of the better areas of our defensive roster in terms of depth going forward.
At numerous times since gilby took over uw has been praised for their qb room only to have shit qb play since the turn of the century with minimal exceptions.
I get what you’re saying about stacking talent though and completely agree. I thought Osborne and Jones would be good WR’s. That never happened and then we had fuller and opera playing.
Its concerning nobody beat out manu Wellington or sirmon until late in 2019. Anyone who says otherwise is blind. -
Gregory knows football ... I don't think that's what you should be concerned about.GreenRiverGatorz said:
I'm worried about Gregory coaching the defense. I'm less worried about recruiting now that he presumably no longer has to do anything. Not to imply that he was doing anything beforehand either.WilburHooksHands said:nobody is worried about gregory coaching the defense, they are worried about gregory coaching a defense with 5 PWOs hth
Bigger concern with Gregory is that he basically hasn't pursued being a coordinator in over a decade (pretty sure that if he wanted to pursue one that he could have been in the discussion) and with some of the rumors about how he went from Cal to Boise makes you wonder if he's really not that interested in being in the spotlight ... which is kind of hard to avoid as a coordiantor.
The skeptical side of me says that Gregory is doing this for like 2 years getting Malloe up to speed to run his own defense and then retires.
Wouldn't shock me if the rationale used to convince Bob was that with the raise he'd be able to retire in 2-3 years instead of 5 years.
