This is great work from Biden
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I don’t see how you’re being forced to pay in any legal or moral sense. That money, legally, is not yours. And while I have no doubt you worked hard for it, it morally being yours suggests that everyone got paid exactly what they deserve and we know the market system doesn’t work that way.RaceBannon said:
Forcing someone to work to pay for someone who won't work is worseTheKobeStopper said:
I agree 100%, people are forced to work which is why we should bring democracy to the workplace. Forcing them to work so someone else can reap the profits is exploitation.SFGbob said:
Yeah, as a person who has worked since I was 13 years old in order to feed myself and keep a roof over my head I would never understand that. Most people are "financially forced to work"Duckwithabone said:
Lol I’m tempted to waste my breath explaining the nuance of different economic classes to you, but I won’t. Just understand that some people can’t survive for a month without a paycheck and some can.SFGbob said:
Has it occurred to you that this is far more likely to be abused then it is to used in the manner you described? Btw, who the fuck other than the independently wealthy or the retired isn't financially forced to work?Duckwithabone said:Has it occurred to any of you that there may be people with legitimate health and financial concerns? People who actually are financially forced to work while dealing with health concerns that make them more vulnerable? No it’s a lot easier to dismiss the “faggy” liberal policies because “China” joe does them, never mind it may actually help the working and middle classes you all claim to be so worried about in this new fascist nation.
Legally workers do not currently have the right to the profit they create which is why I’m advocating for change on a moral basis. A system where the workplace is democratized brings us closer to people getting what they actually deserve and it gives the worker representation.
You know about representation, right? We fought a war about it once, you were there. -
People "deserve" what their labor will command, and not a penny more or a penny less. Want to earn more money? Make your labor more valuable. If all you have is a strong back and the ability to be a donkey you shouldn't expect to earn much from your labor.TheKobeStopper said:
I don’t see how you’re being forced to pay in any legal or moral sense. That money, legally, is not yours. And while I have no doubt you worked hard for it, it morally being yours suggests that everyone got paid exactly what they deserve and we know the market system doesn’t work that way.RaceBannon said:
Forcing someone to work to pay for someone who won't work is worseTheKobeStopper said:
I agree 100%, people are forced to work which is why we should bring democracy to the workplace. Forcing them to work so someone else can reap the profits is exploitation.SFGbob said:
Yeah, as a person who has worked since I was 13 years old in order to feed myself and keep a roof over my head I would never understand that. Most people are "financially forced to work"Duckwithabone said:
Lol I’m tempted to waste my breath explaining the nuance of different economic classes to you, but I won’t. Just understand that some people can’t survive for a month without a paycheck and some can.SFGbob said:
Has it occurred to you that this is far more likely to be abused then it is to used in the manner you described? Btw, who the fuck other than the independently wealthy or the retired isn't financially forced to work?Duckwithabone said:Has it occurred to any of you that there may be people with legitimate health and financial concerns? People who actually are financially forced to work while dealing with health concerns that make them more vulnerable? No it’s a lot easier to dismiss the “faggy” liberal policies because “China” joe does them, never mind it may actually help the working and middle classes you all claim to be so worried about in this new fascist nation.
Legally workers do not currently have the right to the profit they create which is why I’m advocating for change on a moral basis. A system where the workplace is democratized brings us closer to people getting what they actually deserve and it gives the worker representation.
You know about representation, right? We fought a war about it once, you were there. -
Its just wonderful watching the Libtards create another government dependent class.
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The market is amoral. It has no interest in what anyone deserves. A banker can make more than a teacher not because they are getting what they deserve but because that is what the market dictates.SFGbob said:
People "deserve" what their labor will command, and not a penny more or a penny less. Want to earn more money? Make your labor more valuable. If all you have is a strong back and the ability to be a donkey you shouldn't expect to earn much from your labor.TheKobeStopper said:
I don’t see how you’re being forced to pay in any legal or moral sense. That money, legally, is not yours. And while I have no doubt you worked hard for it, it morally being yours suggests that everyone got paid exactly what they deserve and we know the market system doesn’t work that way.RaceBannon said:
Forcing someone to work to pay for someone who won't work is worseTheKobeStopper said:
I agree 100%, people are forced to work which is why we should bring democracy to the workplace. Forcing them to work so someone else can reap the profits is exploitation.SFGbob said:
Yeah, as a person who has worked since I was 13 years old in order to feed myself and keep a roof over my head I would never understand that. Most people are "financially forced to work"Duckwithabone said:
Lol I’m tempted to waste my breath explaining the nuance of different economic classes to you, but I won’t. Just understand that some people can’t survive for a month without a paycheck and some can.SFGbob said:
Has it occurred to you that this is far more likely to be abused then it is to used in the manner you described? Btw, who the fuck other than the independently wealthy or the retired isn't financially forced to work?Duckwithabone said:Has it occurred to any of you that there may be people with legitimate health and financial concerns? People who actually are financially forced to work while dealing with health concerns that make them more vulnerable? No it’s a lot easier to dismiss the “faggy” liberal policies because “China” joe does them, never mind it may actually help the working and middle classes you all claim to be so worried about in this new fascist nation.
Legally workers do not currently have the right to the profit they create which is why I’m advocating for change on a moral basis. A system where the workplace is democratized brings us closer to people getting what they actually deserve and it gives the worker representation.
You know about representation, right? We fought a war about it once, you were there. -
Deserve ain't got nothing to do with it
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Funny the libs kill kids so they won't be a burden on society. Yet libs are the real burden on society. Bunch of lazy fucks.
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Most workers are incredibly shitty and worth nothing. In communism they'd be gassed for not being able to contribute.
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Careful, started to sound like you wanted to legislate certain notions of morality. And we all know that’s wrong.TheKobeStopper said:
The market is amoral. It has no interest in what anyone deserves. A banker can make more than a teacher not because they are getting what they deserve but because that is what the market dictates.SFGbob said:
People "deserve" what their labor will command, and not a penny more or a penny less. Want to earn more money? Make your labor more valuable. If all you have is a strong back and the ability to be a donkey you shouldn't expect to earn much from your labor.TheKobeStopper said:
I don’t see how you’re being forced to pay in any legal or moral sense. That money, legally, is not yours. And while I have no doubt you worked hard for it, it morally being yours suggests that everyone got paid exactly what they deserve and we know the market system doesn’t work that way.RaceBannon said:
Forcing someone to work to pay for someone who won't work is worseTheKobeStopper said:
I agree 100%, people are forced to work which is why we should bring democracy to the workplace. Forcing them to work so someone else can reap the profits is exploitation.SFGbob said:
Yeah, as a person who has worked since I was 13 years old in order to feed myself and keep a roof over my head I would never understand that. Most people are "financially forced to work"Duckwithabone said:
Lol I’m tempted to waste my breath explaining the nuance of different economic classes to you, but I won’t. Just understand that some people can’t survive for a month without a paycheck and some can.SFGbob said:
Has it occurred to you that this is far more likely to be abused then it is to used in the manner you described? Btw, who the fuck other than the independently wealthy or the retired isn't financially forced to work?Duckwithabone said:Has it occurred to any of you that there may be people with legitimate health and financial concerns? People who actually are financially forced to work while dealing with health concerns that make them more vulnerable? No it’s a lot easier to dismiss the “faggy” liberal policies because “China” joe does them, never mind it may actually help the working and middle classes you all claim to be so worried about in this new fascist nation.
Legally workers do not currently have the right to the profit they create which is why I’m advocating for change on a moral basis. A system where the workplace is democratized brings us closer to people getting what they actually deserve and it gives the worker representation.
You know about representation, right? We fought a war about it once, you were there.
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The “value” of most teachers has been on full display for nearly a year now. They are obviously way over paid.TheKobeStopper said:
The market is amoral. It has no interest in what anyone deserves. A banker can make more than a teacher not because they are getting what they deserve but because that is what the market dictates.SFGbob said:
People "deserve" what their labor will command, and not a penny more or a penny less. Want to earn more money? Make your labor more valuable. If all you have is a strong back and the ability to be a donkey you shouldn't expect to earn much from your labor.TheKobeStopper said:
I don’t see how you’re being forced to pay in any legal or moral sense. That money, legally, is not yours. And while I have no doubt you worked hard for it, it morally being yours suggests that everyone got paid exactly what they deserve and we know the market system doesn’t work that way.RaceBannon said:
Forcing someone to work to pay for someone who won't work is worseTheKobeStopper said:
I agree 100%, people are forced to work which is why we should bring democracy to the workplace. Forcing them to work so someone else can reap the profits is exploitation.SFGbob said:
Yeah, as a person who has worked since I was 13 years old in order to feed myself and keep a roof over my head I would never understand that. Most people are "financially forced to work"Duckwithabone said:
Lol I’m tempted to waste my breath explaining the nuance of different economic classes to you, but I won’t. Just understand that some people can’t survive for a month without a paycheck and some can.SFGbob said:
Has it occurred to you that this is far more likely to be abused then it is to used in the manner you described? Btw, who the fuck other than the independently wealthy or the retired isn't financially forced to work?Duckwithabone said:Has it occurred to any of you that there may be people with legitimate health and financial concerns? People who actually are financially forced to work while dealing with health concerns that make them more vulnerable? No it’s a lot easier to dismiss the “faggy” liberal policies because “China” joe does them, never mind it may actually help the working and middle classes you all claim to be so worried about in this new fascist nation.
Legally workers do not currently have the right to the profit they create which is why I’m advocating for change on a moral basis. A system where the workplace is democratized brings us closer to people getting what they actually deserve and it gives the worker representation.
You know about representation, right? We fought a war about it once, you were there. -
Less hands on deck. Are you serious? At my store I can think of maybe six individuals that would opt out where I would say, sure, got it, makes sense. I can also think of another ten kids under 30 who would take advantage of this for paid time off and maybe another 5-6 co workers that would opt out due to being overly afraid. If 15-20 people out 65 that work over 30 hours a week stay home then I’m working harder. If we hire 20 to replace them then I’m training new people while working harder. Losing 5-6 people over 65 is one thing, losing 1/3 of your staff is another. It’s not hard. GFYBennyBeaver said:
why would YOU have to work twice as HARD?theknowledge said:So, because I'm not scared in the least of Covid I get to work twice as hard bagging YOUR groceries and making sure YOU have fucking toilet paper because half of my coworkers say they aren't comfortable? Oh, and myself and the brave souls who didn't fag out get to pay for their laziness with the tax dollars they take out of the shitty paycheck that we make because we choose to work and not hide under the bed with our hands out? Sweet. Sounds great. GFYS
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I was promised no malarkeyRaceBannon said:Malarkey
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Or ban on fracking.doogie said:
I was promised no malarkeyRaceBannon said:Malarkey
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Fuck you, commie.TheKobeStopper said:
I don’t see how you’re being forced to pay in any legal or moral sense. That money, legally, is not yours. And while I have no doubt you worked hard for it, it morally being yours suggests that everyone got paid exactly what they deserve and we know the market system doesn’t work that way.RaceBannon said:
Forcing someone to work to pay for someone who won't work is worseTheKobeStopper said:
I agree 100%, people are forced to work which is why we should bring democracy to the workplace. Forcing them to work so someone else can reap the profits is exploitation.SFGbob said:
Yeah, as a person who has worked since I was 13 years old in order to feed myself and keep a roof over my head I would never understand that. Most people are "financially forced to work"Duckwithabone said:
Lol I’m tempted to waste my breath explaining the nuance of different economic classes to you, but I won’t. Just understand that some people can’t survive for a month without a paycheck and some can.SFGbob said:
Has it occurred to you that this is far more likely to be abused then it is to used in the manner you described? Btw, who the fuck other than the independently wealthy or the retired isn't financially forced to work?Duckwithabone said:Has it occurred to any of you that there may be people with legitimate health and financial concerns? People who actually are financially forced to work while dealing with health concerns that make them more vulnerable? No it’s a lot easier to dismiss the “faggy” liberal policies because “China” joe does them, never mind it may actually help the working and middle classes you all claim to be so worried about in this new fascist nation.
Legally workers do not currently have the right to the profit they create which is why I’m advocating for change on a moral basis. A system where the workplace is democratized brings us closer to people getting what they actually deserve and it gives the worker representation.
You know about representation, right? We fought a war about it once, you were there. -
Fewertheknowledge said:
Less hands on deck. Are you serious? At my store I can think of maybe six individuals that would opt out where I would say, sure, got it, makes sense. I can also think of another ten kids under 30 who would take advantage of this for paid time off and maybe another 5-6 co workers that would opt out due to being overly afraid. If 15-20 people out 65 that work over 30 hours a week stay home then I’m working harder. If we hire 20 to replace them then I’m training new people while working harder. Losing 5-6 people over 65 is one thing, losing 1/3 of your staff is another. It’s not hard. GFYBennyBeaver said:
why would YOU have to work twice as HARD?theknowledge said:So, because I'm not scared in the least of Covid I get to work twice as hard bagging YOUR groceries and making sure YOU have fucking toilet paper because half of my coworkers say they aren't comfortable? Oh, and myself and the brave souls who didn't fag out get to pay for their laziness with the tax dollars they take out of the shitty paycheck that we make because we choose to work and not hide under the bed with our hands out? Sweet. Sounds great. GFYS
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TYFYSPitchfork51 said:
Fewertheknowledge said:
Less hands on deck. Are you serious? At my store I can think of maybe six individuals that would opt out where I would say, sure, got it, makes sense. I can also think of another ten kids under 30 who would take advantage of this for paid time off and maybe another 5-6 co workers that would opt out due to being overly afraid. If 15-20 people out 65 that work over 30 hours a week stay home then I’m working harder. If we hire 20 to replace them then I’m training new people while working harder. Losing 5-6 people over 65 is one thing, losing 1/3 of your staff is another. It’s not hard. GFYBennyBeaver said:
why would YOU have to work twice as HARD?theknowledge said:So, because I'm not scared in the least of Covid I get to work twice as hard bagging YOUR groceries and making sure YOU have fucking toilet paper because half of my coworkers say they aren't comfortable? Oh, and myself and the brave souls who didn't fag out get to pay for their laziness with the tax dollars they take out of the shitty paycheck that we make because we choose to work and not hide under the bed with our hands out? Sweet. Sounds great. GFYS
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