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Goodbye Trump. Hello war on domestic terror

GrundleStiltzkin
GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter

With Americans still reeling from the January 6 Capitol riot, the Biden administration will begin its term amid a rapidly escalating "tough on domestic terror" mood.

That's never a good influence no matter which ruling party is in office, and perhaps especially bad in times of intense partisan conflict. There are a few things both Democrats and Republicans can almost always come together on, and limiting civil liberties in the name of national security is chief among them. But worse, Biden has never backed away from hysterical policy reactions to perceived crime and terror threats.

"Biden's career was built on the politics of panics," Reason's Jacob Sullum writes. "After 9/11, Biden did not just vote for the PATRIOT Act, which expanded the federal government's surveillance authority in the name of fighting terrorism. He bragged that it was essentially the same as legislation he had been pushing since 1994."

Now, "the Biden administration plans to make domestic terrorism a key focus of the National Security Council, transition officials tell @carolelee," tweeted Geoff Bennett, NBC's White House correspondent, on Monday. "Officials have been looking at ways to shift government resources previously used for counterterrorism, to combating domestic terrorism."

Former lackeys of the war on terror are already salivating.

"Former intelligence official on PBS NewsHour tonight saying that the US should think about a '9/11 Commission' for domestic extremism and consider applying some of the lessons from the fight against Al Qaeda here at home," noted Evan Hill of The New York Times last night.

("The more explicit they make it that they're using the first War on Terror model for their new one domestically, the better," responded Glenn Greenwald. "Please keep up this candor.")


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  • LoneStarDawg
    LoneStarDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 13,672 Founders Club
    I was explicitly promised a return to normalcy
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
    Surely, you've heard of the New Normal. In Biden's Amerikkka.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,661 Founders Club
    I'm not reeling. At all

    but

    Two U.S. Army National Guard members are being removed from the security mission to secure Joe Biden’s presidential inauguration. A U.S. Army official and a senior U.S. intelligence official say the two National Guard members have been found to have ties to fringe right group militias.

    No plot against Biden was found.

    The Army official and the intelligence official spoke to The Associated Press on the condition of anonymity due to Defense Department media regulations. They did not say what fringe group the Guard members belonged to or what unit they served in.

    Contacted by the AP on Tuesday, the National Guard Bureau referred questions to the U.S. Secret Service and said, “Due to operational security, we do not discuss the process nor the outcome of the vetting process for military members supporting the inauguration.”

    The Secret Service told the AP on Monday it would not comment on if any National Guard members had been pulled from securing the inauguration for operational security reasons.

    © Copyright 2021 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.

    Scary huh?
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,034 Standard Supporter
    Thank God for Greenwald, Taibbi and Hedges. Basically the US triumvirate of truth among journalists.

    Counting the days until each is canceled for good and control of the Silcon Valley Narrative is rendered complete.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,003

    I'm not reeling. At all

    but

    Two U.S. Army National Guard members are being removed from the security mission to secure Joe Biden’s presidential inauguration. A U.S. Army official and a senior U.S. intelligence official say the two National Guard members have been found to have ties to fringe right group militias.

    No plot against Biden was found.

    The Army official and the intelligence official spoke to The Associated Press on the condition of anonymity due to Defense Department media regulations. They did not say what fringe group the Guard members belonged to or what unit they served in.

    Contacted by the AP on Tuesday, the National Guard Bureau referred questions to the U.S. Secret Service and said, “Due to operational security, we do not discuss the process nor the outcome of the vetting process for military members supporting the inauguration.”

    The Secret Service told the AP on Monday it would not comment on if any National Guard members had been pulled from securing the inauguration for operational security reasons.

    © Copyright 2021 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.

    Scary huh?

    By 'removed', what does that mean?

    Do the trains to the re-education camps run on time yet?

  • HuskyJW
    HuskyJW Member Posts: 15,251
    Might as well as not even try
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,624 Standard Supporter
    So the staged riot was the excuse to go after anyone on the right. Commies commie hard to imagine!
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
    thechatch said:

    Cities burned for an entire summer.

    But I guess it takes a handful of far right wack jobs to get China Joe to get tough on domestic terror.

    Obvious difference is obvious: Ourº shit versus their shit.
  • NorthwestFresh
    NorthwestFresh Member Posts: 7,972
    edited January 2021
    thechatch said:

    Cities burned for an entire summer.

    But I guess it takes a handful of far right wack jobs to get China Joe to get tough on domestic terror.

    I know you’re being facetious but this is how Fascism starts. Target specific fringe groups, demonize them, attach all political opponents to those specific fringe groups, use the courts to criminalize the behavior and the military to enforce, and have a controlled media whose job is to panic the public so Dear Leader can save them from the “domestic terrorists.”

    It’s like reading a high school history book from the 1980s in relation to Germany and the Soviet Union.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,003
    Sledog said:

    So the staged riot was the excuse to go after anyone on the right. Commies commie hard to imagine!

    That may work on the military guys who are in the chain of command.

    The Randy Weavers of the world won't go so lightly.

    Even Joe isn't that dumb.

  • Southerndawg
    Southerndawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,346 Founders Club

    Sledog said:

    So the staged riot was the excuse to go after anyone on the right. Commies commie hard to imagine!

    That may work on the military guys who are in the chain of command.

    The Randy Weavers of the world won't go so lightly.

    Even Joe isn't that dumb.

    You're giving joe too much credit. He is that dumb, and dumber.
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,034 Standard Supporter

    Sledog said:

    So the staged riot was the excuse to go after anyone on the right. Commies commie hard to imagine!

    That may work on the military guys who are in the chain of command.

    The Randy Weavers of the world won't go so lightly.

    Even Joe isn't that dumb.

    You're giving joe too much credit. He is that dumb, and dumber.
    Anyone who thinks Joe is running the show hasn't heard of Dementia.
  • NorthwestFresh
    NorthwestFresh Member Posts: 7,972
    Authoritarians disregard input from citizen groups who oppose their policies. Put those groups on The Enemies List too.
  • AOG
    AOG Member Posts: 2,636
    edited January 2021
    It seems like a huge overreaction. It's not as if we have bands of extremists scaling the walls of the Capitol and thugs waving Confederate flags in the Rotunda!!! If that happened, then we'd take action against domestic terrorism.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,661 Founders Club
    AOG said:

    It seems like a huge overreaction. It's not as if we have bands of extremists scaling the walls of the Capitol and thugs waving Confederate flags in the Rotunda!!! If that happened, then we'd take action against domestic terrorism.

    Shut up fascist
  • NorthwestFresh
    NorthwestFresh Member Posts: 7,972
    edited January 2021
    AOG said:

    It seems like a huge overreaction. It's not as if we have bands of extremists scaling the walls of the Capitol and thugs waving Confederate flags in the Rotunda!!! If that happened, then we'd take action against domestic terrorism.

    This guy is pissing on the integrity National Guard just like Biden is doing. Half the country now supports fascist Loyalty Tests to Dear Leader Biden.

    How many NG members “scaled walls” on the 6th of January that would warrant all of them being vetted for their politics, Bonehead?

  • AOG
    AOG Member Posts: 2,636
    This is domestic terror and insurrection:

    "Self-styled militia members from Virginia, Ohio and other states made plans to storm the U.S. Capitol days in advance of the Jan. 6 attack, and then communicated in real time as they breached the building on opposite sides and talked about hunting for lawmakers, according to new court documents filed Tuesday.

    U.S. authorities charged an apparent Oath Keeper leader, Thomas Edward Caldwell, 66, of Clarke County, Va., in the attack, alleging that the U.S. Navy veteran helped organize a ring of what became 30 or 40 people who “stormed the castle” to disrupt the electoral vote confirmation of President-elect Joe Biden’s victory.

    “We have about 30-40 of us. We are sticking together and sticking to the plan,” co-defendant Jessica Watkins, 38, a U.S. Army veteran, said while the breach was underway, according to court documents unsealed Tuesday."
  • NorthwestFresh
    NorthwestFresh Member Posts: 7,972
    edited January 2021
    AOG said:

    This is domestic terror and insurrection:

    "Self-styled militia members from Virginia, Ohio and other states made plans to storm the U.S. Capitol days in advance of the Jan. 6 attack, and then communicated in real time as they breached the building on opposite sides and talked about hunting for lawmakers, according to new court documents filed Tuesday.

    U.S. authorities charged an apparent Oath Keeper leader, Thomas Edward Caldwell, 66, of Clarke County, Va., in the attack, alleging that the U.S. Navy veteran helped organize a ring of what became 30 or 40 people who “stormed the castle” to disrupt the electoral vote confirmation of President-elect Joe Biden’s victory.

    “We have about 30-40 of us. We are sticking together and sticking to the plan,” co-defendant Jessica Watkins, 38, a U.S. Army veteran, said while the breach was underway, according to court documents unsealed Tuesday."

    Wow 30-40 people!! How did they not overthrow the government?

    Madonna Tweets about blowing up the White House and gets tens of thousands of Likes and hundreds of responses say the same. Are those people domestic terrorists who belong on a watch list?
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,003
    edited January 2021

    AOG said:

    It seems like a huge overreaction. It's not as if we have bands of extremists scaling the walls of the Capitol and thugs waving Confederate flags in the Rotunda!!! If that happened, then we'd take action against domestic terrorism.

    Shut up fascist
    The preferred nomenclatures is "Shut up, @FascistComeLately".

  • AOG
    AOG Member Posts: 2,636

    AOG said:

    This is domestic terror and insurrection:

    "Self-styled militia members from Virginia, Ohio and other states made plans to storm the U.S. Capitol days in advance of the Jan. 6 attack, and then communicated in real time as they breached the building on opposite sides and talked about hunting for lawmakers, according to new court documents filed Tuesday.

    U.S. authorities charged an apparent Oath Keeper leader, Thomas Edward Caldwell, 66, of Clarke County, Va., in the attack, alleging that the U.S. Navy veteran helped organize a ring of what became 30 or 40 people who “stormed the castle” to disrupt the electoral vote confirmation of President-elect Joe Biden’s victory.

    “We have about 30-40 of us. We are sticking together and sticking to the plan,” co-defendant Jessica Watkins, 38, a U.S. Army veteran, said while the breach was underway, according to court documents unsealed Tuesday."

    Wow 30-40 people!! How did they not overthrow the government?

    Madonna Tweets about blowing up the White House and gets tens of thousands of Likes and hundreds of responses say the same. Are those people domestic terrorists who belong on a watch list?
    What this shows is that Trump incited a mob that included persons organized and conspiring to overthrow the government. He did tell them previously to "stand by". Basically what this shows is treason.
  • NorthwestFresh
    NorthwestFresh Member Posts: 7,972
    AOG said:

    AOG said:

    This is domestic terror and insurrection:

    "Self-styled militia members from Virginia, Ohio and other states made plans to storm the U.S. Capitol days in advance of the Jan. 6 attack, and then communicated in real time as they breached the building on opposite sides and talked about hunting for lawmakers, according to new court documents filed Tuesday.

    U.S. authorities charged an apparent Oath Keeper leader, Thomas Edward Caldwell, 66, of Clarke County, Va., in the attack, alleging that the U.S. Navy veteran helped organize a ring of what became 30 or 40 people who “stormed the castle” to disrupt the electoral vote confirmation of President-elect Joe Biden’s victory.

    “We have about 30-40 of us. We are sticking together and sticking to the plan,” co-defendant Jessica Watkins, 38, a U.S. Army veteran, said while the breach was underway, according to court documents unsealed Tuesday."

    Wow 30-40 people!! How did they not overthrow the government?

    Madonna Tweets about blowing up the White House and gets tens of thousands of Likes and hundreds of responses say the same. Are those people domestic terrorists who belong on a watch list?
    What this shows is that Trump incited a mob that included persons organized and conspiring to overthrow the government. He did tell them previously to "stand by". Basically what this shows is treason.
    The FBI said today that it was planned days before Trump supposedly “incited” them while he was speaking, but do keep lying. It’s what you Leftists do best.


  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913

    AOG said:

    It seems like a huge overreaction. It's not as if we have bands of extremists scaling the walls of the Capitol and thugs waving Confederate flags in the Rotunda!!! If that happened, then we'd take action against domestic terrorism.

    This guy is pissing on the integrity National Guard just like Biden is doing. Half the country now supports fascist Loyalty Tests to Dear Leader Biden.

    How many NG members “scaled walls” on the 6th of January that would warrant all of them being vetted for their politics, Bonehead?

    To be honest. Most of Those that have ONLY served in the Natty Guard in the last 10 years don’t really deserve much other than their free college. Certainly some exceptions that have served on the fire lines and natural disasters in the last 10 years. But the majority ain’t much, in the last 10 years.

  • AOG
    AOG Member Posts: 2,636
    edited January 2021

    AOG said:

    AOG said:

    This is domestic terror and insurrection:

    "Self-styled militia members from Virginia, Ohio and other states made plans to storm the U.S. Capitol days in advance of the Jan. 6 attack, and then communicated in real time as they breached the building on opposite sides and talked about hunting for lawmakers, according to new court documents filed Tuesday.

    U.S. authorities charged an apparent Oath Keeper leader, Thomas Edward Caldwell, 66, of Clarke County, Va., in the attack, alleging that the U.S. Navy veteran helped organize a ring of what became 30 or 40 people who “stormed the castle” to disrupt the electoral vote confirmation of President-elect Joe Biden’s victory.

    “We have about 30-40 of us. We are sticking together and sticking to the plan,” co-defendant Jessica Watkins, 38, a U.S. Army veteran, said while the breach was underway, according to court documents unsealed Tuesday."

    Wow 30-40 people!! How did they not overthrow the government?

    Madonna Tweets about blowing up the White House and gets tens of thousands of Likes and hundreds of responses say the same. Are those people domestic terrorists who belong on a watch list?
    What this shows is that Trump incited a mob that included persons organized and conspiring to overthrow the government. He did tell them previously to "stand by". Basically what this shows is treason.
    The FBI said today that it was planned days before Trump supposedly “incited” them while he was speaking, but do keep lying. It’s what you Leftists do best.


    Well your teeth fell out. Race

    The point is, they will use this not only to convict these people, but also at Trump's trial. He would have known from months of intel reports about the capabilities of these groups and they'd be likely to show up Jan 6th. Trump lied about the election fraud and told the mob to head to the Capitol to "fight." It shows beyond a reasonable doubt that Trump incited insurrection. That's the prosecution. He's not, remember, protected any longer as of tomorrow from criminal indictment.
  • NorthwestFresh
    NorthwestFresh Member Posts: 7,972
    AOG said:

    AOG said:

    AOG said:

    This is domestic terror and insurrection:

    "Self-styled militia members from Virginia, Ohio and other states made plans to storm the U.S. Capitol days in advance of the Jan. 6 attack, and then communicated in real time as they breached the building on opposite sides and talked about hunting for lawmakers, according to new court documents filed Tuesday.

    U.S. authorities charged an apparent Oath Keeper leader, Thomas Edward Caldwell, 66, of Clarke County, Va., in the attack, alleging that the U.S. Navy veteran helped organize a ring of what became 30 or 40 people who “stormed the castle” to disrupt the electoral vote confirmation of President-elect Joe Biden’s victory.

    “We have about 30-40 of us. We are sticking together and sticking to the plan,” co-defendant Jessica Watkins, 38, a U.S. Army veteran, said while the breach was underway, according to court documents unsealed Tuesday."

    Wow 30-40 people!! How did they not overthrow the government?

    Madonna Tweets about blowing up the White House and gets tens of thousands of Likes and hundreds of responses say the same. Are those people domestic terrorists who belong on a watch list?
    What this shows is that Trump incited a mob that included persons organized and conspiring to overthrow the government. He did tell them previously to "stand by". Basically what this shows is treason.
    The FBI said today that it was planned days before Trump supposedly “incited” them while he was speaking, but do keep lying. It’s what you Leftists do best.


    Well your teeth fell out. Race

    The point is, they will use this not only to convict these people, but also at Trump's trial. He would have known from months of intel reports about the capabilities of these groups and they'd be likely to show up Jan 6th. Trump lied about the election fraud and told the mob to head to the Capitol to "fight." It shows beyond a reasonable doubt that Trump incited insurrection. That's the prosecution. He's not, remember, protected any longer as of tomorrow from criminal indictment.
    Zero conspiracy theories on the Left.

    This is a parody account, right?
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,034 Standard Supporter
    AOG said:

    It seems like a huge overreaction. It's not as if we have bands of extremists scaling the walls of the Capitol and thugs waving Confederate flags in the Rotunda!!! If that happened, then we'd take action against domestic terrorism.

    Indeed. The Duke Boys are an existential threat to the Country.
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,034 Standard Supporter
    AOG said:

    AOG said:

    This is domestic terror and insurrection:

    "Self-styled militia members from Virginia, Ohio and other states made plans to storm the U.S. Capitol days in advance of the Jan. 6 attack, and then communicated in real time as they breached the building on opposite sides and talked about hunting for lawmakers, according to new court documents filed Tuesday.

    U.S. authorities charged an apparent Oath Keeper leader, Thomas Edward Caldwell, 66, of Clarke County, Va., in the attack, alleging that the U.S. Navy veteran helped organize a ring of what became 30 or 40 people who “stormed the castle” to disrupt the electoral vote confirmation of President-elect Joe Biden’s victory.

    “We have about 30-40 of us. We are sticking together and sticking to the plan,” co-defendant Jessica Watkins, 38, a U.S. Army veteran, said while the breach was underway, according to court documents unsealed Tuesday."

    Wow 30-40 people!! How did they not overthrow the government?

    Madonna Tweets about blowing up the White House and gets tens of thousands of Likes and hundreds of responses say the same. Are those people domestic terrorists who belong on a watch list?
    What this shows is that Trump incited a mob that included persons organized and conspiring to overthrow the government. He did tell them previously to "stand by". Basically what this shows is treason.
    Go look up treason, you mindless sheep.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,661 Founders Club
    AOG said:

    AOG said:

    AOG said:

    This is domestic terror and insurrection:

    "Self-styled militia members from Virginia, Ohio and other states made plans to storm the U.S. Capitol days in advance of the Jan. 6 attack, and then communicated in real time as they breached the building on opposite sides and talked about hunting for lawmakers, according to new court documents filed Tuesday.

    U.S. authorities charged an apparent Oath Keeper leader, Thomas Edward Caldwell, 66, of Clarke County, Va., in the attack, alleging that the U.S. Navy veteran helped organize a ring of what became 30 or 40 people who “stormed the castle” to disrupt the electoral vote confirmation of President-elect Joe Biden’s victory.

    “We have about 30-40 of us. We are sticking together and sticking to the plan,” co-defendant Jessica Watkins, 38, a U.S. Army veteran, said while the breach was underway, according to court documents unsealed Tuesday."

    Wow 30-40 people!! How did they not overthrow the government?

    Madonna Tweets about blowing up the White House and gets tens of thousands of Likes and hundreds of responses say the same. Are those people domestic terrorists who belong on a watch list?
    What this shows is that Trump incited a mob that included persons organized and conspiring to overthrow the government. He did tell them previously to "stand by". Basically what this shows is treason.
    The FBI said today that it was planned days before Trump supposedly “incited” them while he was speaking, but do keep lying. It’s what you Leftists do best.


    Well your teeth fell out. Race

    The point is, they will use this not only to convict these people, but also at Trump's trial. He would have known from months of intel reports about the capabilities of these groups and they'd be likely to show up Jan 6th. Trump lied about the election fraud and told the mob to head to the Capitol to "fight." It shows beyond a reasonable doubt that Trump incited insurrection. That's the prosecution. He's not, remember, protected any longer as of tomorrow from criminal indictment.
    Trump's trial

    Tin foil hat conspiracy theory lunatic