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Goodbye Trump. Hello war on domestic terror

GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,499 Standard Supporter

With Americans still reeling from the January 6 Capitol riot, the Biden administration will begin its term amid a rapidly escalating "tough on domestic terror" mood.

That's never a good influence no matter which ruling party is in office, and perhaps especially bad in times of intense partisan conflict. There are a few things both Democrats and Republicans can almost always come together on, and limiting civil liberties in the name of national security is chief among them. But worse, Biden has never backed away from hysterical policy reactions to perceived crime and terror threats.

"Biden's career was built on the politics of panics," Reason's Jacob Sullum writes. "After 9/11, Biden did not just vote for the PATRIOT Act, which expanded the federal government's surveillance authority in the name of fighting terrorism. He bragged that it was essentially the same as legislation he had been pushing since 1994."

Now, "the Biden administration plans to make domestic terrorism a key focus of the National Security Council, transition officials tell @carolelee," tweeted Geoff Bennett, NBC's White House correspondent, on Monday. "Officials have been looking at ways to shift government resources previously used for counterterrorism, to combating domestic terrorism."

Former lackeys of the war on terror are already salivating.

"Former intelligence official on PBS NewsHour tonight saying that the US should think about a '9/11 Commission' for domestic extremism and consider applying some of the lessons from the fight against Al Qaeda here at home," noted Evan Hill of The New York Times last night.

("The more explicit they make it that they're using the first War on Terror model for their new one domestically, the better," responded Glenn Greenwald. "Please keep up this candor.")


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  • LoneStarDawgLoneStarDawg Member Posts: 13,342
    I was explicitly promised a return to normalcy
  • GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,499 Standard Supporter
    Surely, you've heard of the New Normal. In Biden's Amerikkka.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,986 Founders Club
    I'm not reeling. At all

    but

    Two U.S. Army National Guard members are being removed from the security mission to secure Joe Biden’s presidential inauguration. A U.S. Army official and a senior U.S. intelligence official say the two National Guard members have been found to have ties to fringe right group militias.

    No plot against Biden was found.

    The Army official and the intelligence official spoke to The Associated Press on the condition of anonymity due to Defense Department media regulations. They did not say what fringe group the Guard members belonged to or what unit they served in.

    Contacted by the AP on Tuesday, the National Guard Bureau referred questions to the U.S. Secret Service and said, “Due to operational security, we do not discuss the process nor the outcome of the vetting process for military members supporting the inauguration.”

    The Secret Service told the AP on Monday it would not comment on if any National Guard members had been pulled from securing the inauguration for operational security reasons.

    © Copyright 2021 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.

    Scary huh?
  • TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,971 Standard Supporter
    Thank God for Greenwald, Taibbi and Hedges. Basically the US triumvirate of truth among journalists.

    Counting the days until each is canceled for good and control of the Silcon Valley Narrative is rendered complete.
  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 44,236 Standard Supporter

    I'm not reeling. At all

    but

    Two U.S. Army National Guard members are being removed from the security mission to secure Joe Biden’s presidential inauguration. A U.S. Army official and a senior U.S. intelligence official say the two National Guard members have been found to have ties to fringe right group militias.

    No plot against Biden was found.

    The Army official and the intelligence official spoke to The Associated Press on the condition of anonymity due to Defense Department media regulations. They did not say what fringe group the Guard members belonged to or what unit they served in.

    Contacted by the AP on Tuesday, the National Guard Bureau referred questions to the U.S. Secret Service and said, “Due to operational security, we do not discuss the process nor the outcome of the vetting process for military members supporting the inauguration.”

    The Secret Service told the AP on Monday it would not comment on if any National Guard members had been pulled from securing the inauguration for operational security reasons.

    © Copyright 2021 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.

    Scary huh?

    By 'removed', what does that mean?

    Do the trains to the re-education camps run on time yet?

  • HuskyJWHuskyJW Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 14,511 Swaye's Wigwam
    Might as well as not even try
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 33,908 Standard Supporter
    So the staged riot was the excuse to go after anyone on the right. Commies commie hard to imagine!
  • GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,499 Standard Supporter
    thechatch said:

    Cities burned for an entire summer.

    But I guess it takes a handful of far right wack jobs to get China Joe to get tough on domestic terror.

    Obvious difference is obvious: Ourº shit versus their shit.
  • NorthwestFreshNorthwestFresh Member Posts: 7,972
    edited January 2021
    thechatch said:

    Cities burned for an entire summer.

    But I guess it takes a handful of far right wack jobs to get China Joe to get tough on domestic terror.

    I know you’re being facetious but this is how Fascism starts. Target specific fringe groups, demonize them, attach all political opponents to those specific fringe groups, use the courts to criminalize the behavior and the military to enforce, and have a controlled media whose job is to panic the public so Dear Leader can save them from the “domestic terrorists.”

    It’s like reading a high school history book from the 1980s in relation to Germany and the Soviet Union.
  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 44,236 Standard Supporter
    Sledog said:

    So the staged riot was the excuse to go after anyone on the right. Commies commie hard to imagine!

    That may work on the military guys who are in the chain of command.

    The Randy Weavers of the world won't go so lightly.

    Even Joe isn't that dumb.

  • SoutherndawgSoutherndawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,299 Founders Club

    Sledog said:

    So the staged riot was the excuse to go after anyone on the right. Commies commie hard to imagine!

    That may work on the military guys who are in the chain of command.

    The Randy Weavers of the world won't go so lightly.

    Even Joe isn't that dumb.

    You're giving joe too much credit. He is that dumb, and dumber.
  • TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,971 Standard Supporter

    Sledog said:

    So the staged riot was the excuse to go after anyone on the right. Commies commie hard to imagine!

    That may work on the military guys who are in the chain of command.

    The Randy Weavers of the world won't go so lightly.

    Even Joe isn't that dumb.

    You're giving joe too much credit. He is that dumb, and dumber.
    Anyone who thinks Joe is running the show hasn't heard of Dementia.
  • NorthwestFreshNorthwestFresh Member Posts: 7,972
    Authoritarians disregard input from citizen groups who oppose their policies. Put those groups on The Enemies List too.
  • AOGAOG Member Posts: 1,824
    edited January 2021
    It seems like a huge overreaction. It's not as if we have bands of extremists scaling the walls of the Capitol and thugs waving Confederate flags in the Rotunda!!! If that happened, then we'd take action against domestic terrorism.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,986 Founders Club
    AOG said:

    It seems like a huge overreaction. It's not as if we have bands of extremists scaling the walls of the Capitol and thugs waving Confederate flags in the Rotunda!!! If that happened, then we'd take action against domestic terrorism.

    Shut up fascist
  • NorthwestFreshNorthwestFresh Member Posts: 7,972
    edited January 2021
    AOG said:

    It seems like a huge overreaction. It's not as if we have bands of extremists scaling the walls of the Capitol and thugs waving Confederate flags in the Rotunda!!! If that happened, then we'd take action against domestic terrorism.

    This guy is pissing on the integrity National Guard just like Biden is doing. Half the country now supports fascist Loyalty Tests to Dear Leader Biden.

    How many NG members “scaled walls” on the 6th of January that would warrant all of them being vetted for their politics, Bonehead?

  • AOGAOG Member Posts: 1,824
    This is domestic terror and insurrection:

    "Self-styled militia members from Virginia, Ohio and other states made plans to storm the U.S. Capitol days in advance of the Jan. 6 attack, and then communicated in real time as they breached the building on opposite sides and talked about hunting for lawmakers, according to new court documents filed Tuesday.

    U.S. authorities charged an apparent Oath Keeper leader, Thomas Edward Caldwell, 66, of Clarke County, Va., in the attack, alleging that the U.S. Navy veteran helped organize a ring of what became 30 or 40 people who “stormed the castle” to disrupt the electoral vote confirmation of President-elect Joe Biden’s victory.

    “We have about 30-40 of us. We are sticking together and sticking to the plan,” co-defendant Jessica Watkins, 38, a U.S. Army veteran, said while the breach was underway, according to court documents unsealed Tuesday."
  • NorthwestFreshNorthwestFresh Member Posts: 7,972
    edited January 2021
    AOG said:

    This is domestic terror and insurrection:

    "Self-styled militia members from Virginia, Ohio and other states made plans to storm the U.S. Capitol days in advance of the Jan. 6 attack, and then communicated in real time as they breached the building on opposite sides and talked about hunting for lawmakers, according to new court documents filed Tuesday.

    U.S. authorities charged an apparent Oath Keeper leader, Thomas Edward Caldwell, 66, of Clarke County, Va., in the attack, alleging that the U.S. Navy veteran helped organize a ring of what became 30 or 40 people who “stormed the castle” to disrupt the electoral vote confirmation of President-elect Joe Biden’s victory.

    “We have about 30-40 of us. We are sticking together and sticking to the plan,” co-defendant Jessica Watkins, 38, a U.S. Army veteran, said while the breach was underway, according to court documents unsealed Tuesday."

    Wow 30-40 people!! How did they not overthrow the government?

    Madonna Tweets about blowing up the White House and gets tens of thousands of Likes and hundreds of responses say the same. Are those people domestic terrorists who belong on a watch list?
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