Which result would be the worst for your 2013 Huskies?
Which result would be the worst for your 2013 Huskies? 39 votes
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I voted 8-5. At 8-5 there is some "progress" so that will buy Sark even more time to continue his mediocrity.
Going 0-12 would suck but that's just for one year. The advantage would be Woodward and Sark would be D.A.O.
While I do believe 7-6 neither would be fired, I do feel both would be on the hot season heading into 2014.
That's why 8-5 would be the worst for me. -
I said 7-6, because picking anything different would be unrealistic
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Definitely 8-5. Technically its improvement but not the jump you really need to see after three straight 7-6s. After going 5-7 and then only winning 8 games over the next three years with improved talent is the sign of a poor coach.
Now if they are 8-5 but beat Arizona, Boise, Cal by 17, Illinois by 30, Colorado by 30 and lose to Oregon by 14 Stanford by 7 and ASU, UCLA and OSU by 3-7 then the advanced metrics would probably show a jump from the 45-55th of the past 3 years to 20-25. -
Just stop please. That type of talk is why Doogs were willing to give a Ty a chance. He wasn't really 4-9 since every loss was close and that has to count.HeretoBeatmyChest said:Definitely 8-5. Technically its improvement but not the jump you really need to see after three straight 7-6s. After going 5-7 and then only winning 8 games over the next three years with improved talent is the sign of a poor coach.
Now if they are 8-5 but beat Arizona, Boise, Cal by 17, Illinois by 30, Colorado by 30 and lose to Oregon by 14 Stanford by 7 and ASU, UCLA and OSU by 3-7 then the advanced metrics would probably show a jump from the 45-55th of the past 3 years to 20-25.
Sorry only thing that matters is scoreboard baby! Did you fucking win the game or did you fucking lose the game?
Under no circumstance should 8-5 be acceptable. -
You do realize that 50% of DJ's season ended with 8 wins or lessHe_Needs_More_Time said:
Just stop please. That type of talk is why Doogs were willing to give a Ty a chance. He wasn't really 4-9 since every loss was close and that has to count.HeretoBeatmyChest said:Definitely 8-5. Technically its improvement but not the jump you really need to see after three straight 7-6s. After going 5-7 and then only winning 8 games over the next three years with improved talent is the sign of a poor coach.
Now if they are 8-5 but beat Arizona, Boise, Cal by 17, Illinois by 30, Colorado by 30 and lose to Oregon by 14 Stanford by 7 and ASU, UCLA and OSU by 3-7 then the advanced metrics would probably show a jump from the 45-55th of the past 3 years to 20-25.
Sorry only thing that matters is scoreboard baby! Did you fucking win the game or did you fucking lose the game?
Under no circumstance should 8-5 be acceptable.
Sure glad this board was not around then.
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You do realize that DJ never got to play 12 game schedules and face Div II teamsIrishDawg22 said:
You do realize that 50% of DJ's season ended with 8 wins or lessHe_Needs_More_Time said:
Just stop please. That type of talk is why Doogs were willing to give a Ty a chance. He wasn't really 4-9 since every loss was close and that has to count.HeretoBeatmyChest said:Definitely 8-5. Technically its improvement but not the jump you really need to see after three straight 7-6s. After going 5-7 and then only winning 8 games over the next three years with improved talent is the sign of a poor coach.
Now if they are 8-5 but beat Arizona, Boise, Cal by 17, Illinois by 30, Colorado by 30 and lose to Oregon by 14 Stanford by 7 and ASU, UCLA and OSU by 3-7 then the advanced metrics would probably show a jump from the 45-55th of the past 3 years to 20-25.
Sorry only thing that matters is scoreboard baby! Did you fucking win the game or did you fucking lose the game?
Under no circumstance should 8-5 be acceptable.
Sure glad this board was not around then.
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8 wins with no plunger rape losses would be progress, but I would still hope for Sark to be gone. I don't think he will be gone unless we miss a bowl. 7 or 8 wins would be bad because we would have to put up with at least one more year of Sark ball.
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You do realize that Don James lost 6 games exactly once in his career at Washington.IrishDawg22 said:
You do realize that 50% of DJ's season ended with 8 wins or lessHe_Needs_More_Time said:
Just stop please. That type of talk is why Doogs were willing to give a Ty a chance. He wasn't really 4-9 since every loss was close and that has to count.HeretoBeatmyChest said:Definitely 8-5. Technically its improvement but not the jump you really need to see after three straight 7-6s. After going 5-7 and then only winning 8 games over the next three years with improved talent is the sign of a poor coach.
Now if they are 8-5 but beat Arizona, Boise, Cal by 17, Illinois by 30, Colorado by 30 and lose to Oregon by 14 Stanford by 7 and ASU, UCLA and OSU by 3-7 then the advanced metrics would probably show a jump from the 45-55th of the past 3 years to 20-25.
Sorry only thing that matters is scoreboard baby! Did you fucking win the game or did you fucking lose the game?
Under no circumstance should 8-5 be acceptable.
Sure glad this board was not around then. -
One more year of Sark ball with 8 wins??? Try we need to extend him before some NFL team snatches him up.RoadDawg55 said:8 wins with no plunger rape losses would be progress, but I would still hope for Sark to be gone. I don't think he will be gone unless we miss a bowl. 7 or 8 wins would be bad because we would have to put up with at least one more year of Sark ball.
That's why 8 wins is the worst possible scenario for this season. -
3 = the number of times DJ faced an WSU, Oregon or Oregon St team that was ranked during his career.DerekJohnson said:
You do realize that DJ never got to play 12 game schedules and face Div II teamsIrishDawg22 said:
You do realize that 50% of DJ's season ended with 8 wins or lessHe_Needs_More_Time said:
Just stop please. That type of talk is why Doogs were willing to give a Ty a chance. He wasn't really 4-9 since every loss was close and that has to count.HeretoBeatmyChest said:Definitely 8-5. Technically its improvement but not the jump you really need to see after three straight 7-6s. After going 5-7 and then only winning 8 games over the next three years with improved talent is the sign of a poor coach.
Now if they are 8-5 but beat Arizona, Boise, Cal by 17, Illinois by 30, Colorado by 30 and lose to Oregon by 14 Stanford by 7 and ASU, UCLA and OSU by 3-7 then the advanced metrics would probably show a jump from the 45-55th of the past 3 years to 20-25.
Sorry only thing that matters is scoreboard baby! Did you fucking win the game or did you fucking lose the game?
Under no circumstance should 8-5 be acceptable.
Sure glad this board was not around then.
HTH
And almost every year had the cupcake (San Jose St, Idaho, etc)
These people would have crucified him for going 6-5, 5-6, 8-4 (on field) and 7-4. -
He won a Rose Bowl then popped off in year three. Plus wasn't getting plunger raped 3+ times a year or blowing 18 point leads to shitty rivals.IrishDawg22 said:
3 = the number of times DJ faced an WSU, Oregon or Oregon St team that was ranked during his career.DerekJohnson said:
You do realize that DJ never got to play 12 game schedules and face Div II teamsIrishDawg22 said:
You do realize that 50% of DJ's season ended with 8 wins or lessHe_Needs_More_Time said:
Just stop please. That type of talk is why Doogs were willing to give a Ty a chance. He wasn't really 4-9 since every loss was close and that has to count.HeretoBeatmyChest said:Definitely 8-5. Technically its improvement but not the jump you really need to see after three straight 7-6s. After going 5-7 and then only winning 8 games over the next three years with improved talent is the sign of a poor coach.
Now if they are 8-5 but beat Arizona, Boise, Cal by 17, Illinois by 30, Colorado by 30 and lose to Oregon by 14 Stanford by 7 and ASU, UCLA and OSU by 3-7 then the advanced metrics would probably show a jump from the 45-55th of the past 3 years to 20-25.
Sorry only thing that matters is scoreboard baby! Did you fucking win the game or did you fucking lose the game?
Under no circumstance should 8-5 be acceptable.
Sure glad this board was not around then.
HTH
And almost every year had the cupcake (San Jose St, Idaho, etc)
These people would have crucified him for going 6-5, 5-6, 8-4 (on field) and 7-4. -
After winning a Rose Bowl in year three I think people here would have put down the nails for a bit... If Sark had won a Rose bowl in year three he would have way fewer detractors right now. In short, you are wrong. People here care about results and winning the Rose Bowl is a result.IrishDawg22 said:
3 = the number of times DJ faced an WSU, Oregon or Oregon St team that was ranked during his career.DerekJohnson said:
You do realize that DJ never got to play 12 game schedules and face Div II teamsIrishDawg22 said:
You do realize that 50% of DJ's season ended with 8 wins or lessHe_Needs_More_Time said:
Just stop please. That type of talk is why Doogs were willing to give a Ty a chance. He wasn't really 4-9 since every loss was close and that has to count.HeretoBeatmyChest said:Definitely 8-5. Technically its improvement but not the jump you really need to see after three straight 7-6s. After going 5-7 and then only winning 8 games over the next three years with improved talent is the sign of a poor coach.
Now if they are 8-5 but beat Arizona, Boise, Cal by 17, Illinois by 30, Colorado by 30 and lose to Oregon by 14 Stanford by 7 and ASU, UCLA and OSU by 3-7 then the advanced metrics would probably show a jump from the 45-55th of the past 3 years to 20-25.
Sorry only thing that matters is scoreboard baby! Did you fucking win the game or did you fucking lose the game?
Under no circumstance should 8-5 be acceptable.
Sure glad this board was not around then.
HTH
And almost every year had the cupcake (San Jose St, Idaho, etc)
These people would have crucified him for going 6-5, 5-6, 8-4 (on field) and 7-4. -
Not sure how many of you were actually around at that time, but it is weird how history has been rewritten.
UW had some excellent seasons, but they were never the consistent west coast power that some people seem to remember. -
There was more pressure from our fans towards James after going 6-5(all 5 losses by a combined 15 points) in 1988 than there is on Sark right now. James who was #2 in the nation just 4 years prior.IrishDawg22 said:Not sure how many of you were actually around at that time, but it is weird how history has been rewritten.
UW had some excellent seasons, but they were never the consistent west coast power that some people seem to remember.
If anyone is trying to rewrite history it is you. -
Were you actually there, or are you just repeating talking points from "people in the know"?? My memory is getting a little foggy, but as I remember it the main person putting pressure on Coach James was Coach James.He_Needs_More_Time said:
There was more pressure from our fans towards James after going 6-5(all 5 losses by a combined 15 points) in 1988 than there is on Sark right now. James who was #2 in the nation just 4 years prior.IrishDawg22 said:Not sure how many of you were actually around at that time, but it is weird how history has been rewritten.
UW had some excellent seasons, but they were never the consistent west coast power that some people seem to remember.
If anyone is trying to rewrite history it is you.
Maybe I missed the PUBLIC outcry for his job. -
The fans were pretty pissed off at the time. Back then 6-5 and losing to WSU and Oregon in the same season was unacceptable.IrishDawg22 said:
Were you actually there, or are you just repeating talking points from "people in the know"?? My memory is getting a little foggy, but as I remember it the main person putting pressure on Coach James was Coach James.He_Needs_More_Time said:
There was more pressure from our fans towards James after going 6-5(all 5 losses by a combined 15 points) in 1988 than there is on Sark right now. James who was #2 in the nation just 4 years prior.IrishDawg22 said:Not sure how many of you were actually around at that time, but it is weird how history has been rewritten.
UW had some excellent seasons, but they were never the consistent west coast power that some people seem to remember.
If anyone is trying to rewrite history it is you.
Maybe I missed the PUBLIC outcry for his job.
When Lambright lost 6 games for the first time he was fired, when Neuheisel lost 6 games for the first time he was also fired.
Was the Huskies in the 1980's and 1990's a top 10 program for the entire decade? No they weren't but they were a top 15-20 program which is a lot better than we are under your Sark. -
Pressing.IrishDawg22 said:
3 = the number of times DJ faced an WSU, Oregon or Oregon St team that was ranked during his career.DerekJohnson said:
You do realize that DJ never got to play 12 game schedules and face Div II teamsIrishDawg22 said:
You do realize that 50% of DJ's season ended with 8 wins or lessHe_Needs_More_Time said:
Just stop please. That type of talk is why Doogs were willing to give a Ty a chance. He wasn't really 4-9 since every loss was close and that has to count.HeretoBeatmyChest said:Definitely 8-5. Technically its improvement but not the jump you really need to see after three straight 7-6s. After going 5-7 and then only winning 8 games over the next three years with improved talent is the sign of a poor coach.
Now if they are 8-5 but beat Arizona, Boise, Cal by 17, Illinois by 30, Colorado by 30 and lose to Oregon by 14 Stanford by 7 and ASU, UCLA and OSU by 3-7 then the advanced metrics would probably show a jump from the 45-55th of the past 3 years to 20-25.
Sorry only thing that matters is scoreboard baby! Did you fucking win the game or did you fucking lose the game?
Under no circumstance should 8-5 be acceptable.
Sure glad this board was not around then.
HTH
And almost every year had the cupcake (San Jose St, Idaho, etc)
These people would have crucified him for going 6-5, 5-6, 8-4 (on field) and 7-4. -
Pressing = Facts???DerekJohnson said:
Pressing.IrishDawg22 said:
3 = the number of times DJ faced an WSU, Oregon or Oregon St team that was ranked during his career.DerekJohnson said:
You do realize that DJ never got to play 12 game schedules and face Div II teamsIrishDawg22 said:
You do realize that 50% of DJ's season ended with 8 wins or lessHe_Needs_More_Time said:
Just stop please. That type of talk is why Doogs were willing to give a Ty a chance. He wasn't really 4-9 since every loss was close and that has to count.HeretoBeatmyChest said:Definitely 8-5. Technically its improvement but not the jump you really need to see after three straight 7-6s. After going 5-7 and then only winning 8 games over the next three years with improved talent is the sign of a poor coach.
Now if they are 8-5 but beat Arizona, Boise, Cal by 17, Illinois by 30, Colorado by 30 and lose to Oregon by 14 Stanford by 7 and ASU, UCLA and OSU by 3-7 then the advanced metrics would probably show a jump from the 45-55th of the past 3 years to 20-25.
Sorry only thing that matters is scoreboard baby! Did you fucking win the game or did you fucking lose the game?
Under no circumstance should 8-5 be acceptable.
Sure glad this board was not around then.
HTH
And almost every year had the cupcake (San Jose St, Idaho, etc)
These people would have crucified him for going 6-5, 5-6, 8-4 (on field) and 7-4.
What is funny people have already tried to label me pro Sark when that was not my argument. Fact is I was one of the 1st ones purged from that other place under 2 usernames for challenging Sark, their positive spring/fall reports and recruiting analysis of UW commits. Which has earned me the lifetime ban.
It is just funny to watch people get all worked up and lose sight of the original argument.
All I was doing was challenging this statement:
"Under no circumstance should 8-5 be acceptable"
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I'm not worked up at all. I just think you're trying to be a fly in the ointment without the ability of a TierbsHsotBoobs to really pull it off.
Don James didn't get routinely destroyed by 30+ points, bear hug opposing coaches and then go on the radio and make a bunch of pre-rehearsed whiny remarks about how much he has accomplished and how much the odds were stacked against him.
There would have been some people criticizing him for sure, but to try to say that we would be acting the same toward him is nonsense. -
BSU - W
@ Illinois - W (even though its away they are fucking terrible)
Idaho St. - W
@ Arizona - W
After a 4-0 start doogs will ask where is race bannon now and only come here to beat their chests
Stanford - L
Oregon - L
You cant expect to compete with those two teams after 0-12
@ASU - L (the 3 game losing streak per season must be maintained)
Cal - W
Colorado - W
@UCLA - L (we havent won their since 1995? or 1999?)
@OSU - L
WSU - W (its fucking WSU)
after starting off the season strong UW falters in pac12 play against TUFF opponents and then limps their way to a bowl game finishing just 3-5 in the last 8 games. Kraft fight the hunger bowl invites UW and Fresno St. when Sark secures his contract extension to keep him away from the NFL by beating Fresno St. 34-17. Sark finishes 8-5. worst case scenario. -
For the record uw never was a top 10 team for a decade But James went to 7 orange/rose bowls in 18 years. He won most of his bowl games and had an outstanding conference record. If you can't see that as a great track record and what these miserable and pathetic people are clamoring for then I can't help you.
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That is exactly how I see the season going too. I expect the doogs to be super annoying at the end of September and ignore that was the easy part of the schedule just like they did in 2011 when we started off 5-1.Houhusky said:BSU - W
@ Illinois - W (even though its away they are fucking terrible)
Idaho St. - W
@ Arizona - W
After a 4-0 start doogs will ask where is race bannon now and only come here to beat their chests
Stanford - L
Oregon - L
You cant expect to compete with those two teams after 0-12
@ASU - L (the 3 game losing streak per season must be maintained)
Cal - W
Colorado - W
@UCLA - L (we havent won their since 1995? or 1999?)
@OSU - L
WSU - W (its fucking WSU)
after starting off the season strong UW falters in pac12 play against TUFF opponents and then limps their way to a bowl game finishing just 3-5 in the last 8 games. Kraft fight the hunger bowl invites UW and Fresno St. when Sark secures his contract extension to keep him away from the NFL by beating Fresno St. 34-17. Sark finishes 8-5. worst case scenario.
I still stand by my 8-5 should not be acceptable. Sadly though like others including myself have already stated 8-5 will get him a contract extension.
If Sark loses the bowl game he'll become the first Husky coach to ever lose 3 consecutive bowl games.
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You clearly have never been in a managerial or leadership position. How can you just drop that bomb on me? Are you really telling me I am not going to succeed as an anonymous web poster? My life dreams have been crushed. You should really work on your people skills.DerekJohnson said:I'm not worked up at all. I just think you're trying to be a fly in the ointment without the ability of a TierbsHsotBoobs to really pull it off.
Don James didn't get routinely destroyed by 30+ points, bear hug opposing coaches and then go on the radio and make a bunch of pre-rehearsed whiny remarks about how much he has accomplished and how much the odds were stacked against him.
There would have been some people criticizing him for sure, but to try to say that we would be acting the same toward him is nonsense.
Oh, by any chance are you a politician?? You really danced around the main argument.
So an 8-5 regular season should never be accepted at the UW? -
Then in 2014 the schedule is extremely easy IIRC. He can go 9-5 Or probably even 8-6 ( there are 13 regular season games) And probably get an extension.RoadDawg55 said:8 wins with no plunger rape losses would be progress, but I would still hope for Sark to be gone. I don't think he will be gone unless we miss a bowl. 7 or 8 wins would be bad because we would have to put up with at least one more year of Sark ball.
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The OOC schedule is a joke in 2014. Eastern Washington, Illinois and Georgia Southern at home plus at Hawaii should be 4-0 rather easily.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:
Then in 2014 the schedule is extremely easy IIRC. He can go 9-5 Or probably even 8-6 ( there are 13 regular season games) And probably get an extension.RoadDawg55 said:8 wins with no plunger rape losses would be progress, but I would still hope for Sark to be gone. I don't think he will be gone unless we miss a bowl. 7 or 8 wins would be bad because we would have to put up with at least one more year of Sark ball.
Hopefully we have a new head coach in 2014 but I know boy wonder will still be here "learning on the job". -
Can't we just appreciate 5-1!!!He_Needs_More_Time said:
That is exactly how I see the season going too. I expect the doogs to be super annoying at the end of September and ignore that was the easy part of the schedule just like they did in 2011 when we started off 5-1.
I still stand by my 8-5 should not be acceptable. Sadly though like others including myself have already stated 8-5 will get him a contract extension.
If Sark loses the bowl game he'll become the first Husky coach to ever lose 3 consecutive bowl games.
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DJ had a career record of .698. Means he almost averaged seven wins every ten games. Or almost eight wins every 11 games, which was the usual season then.
Average means sometimes less, and sometimes more. He had a lot of ten win seasons and a lot with 7. Those are math facts. Look it up.
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Mathwhizz!!! True???Global said:DJ had a career record of .698. Means he almost averaged seven wins every ten games. Or almost eight wins every 11 games, which was the usual season then.
Average means sometimes less, and sometimes more. He had a lot of ten win seasons and a lot with 7. Those are math facts. Look it up. -
The worst thing about 8-5 to me is that it sets up 9-4 next year with an easy, 13 game schedule as being "progress".
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True. But find me a better scout team quarterbackHe_Needs_More_Time said:
He won a Rose Bowl then popped off in year three. Plus wasn't getting plunger raped 3+ times a year or blowing 18 point leads to shitty rivals.IrishDawg22 said:
3 = the number of times DJ faced an WSU, Oregon or Oregon St team that was ranked during his career.DerekJohnson said:
You do realize that DJ never got to play 12 game schedules and face Div II teamsIrishDawg22 said:
You do realize that 50% of DJ's season ended with 8 wins or lessHe_Needs_More_Time said:
Just stop please. That type of talk is why Doogs were willing to give a Ty a chance. He wasn't really 4-9 since every loss was close and that has to count.HeretoBeatmyChest said:Definitely 8-5. Technically its improvement but not the jump you really need to see after three straight 7-6s. After going 5-7 and then only winning 8 games over the next three years with improved talent is the sign of a poor coach.
Now if they are 8-5 but beat Arizona, Boise, Cal by 17, Illinois by 30, Colorado by 30 and lose to Oregon by 14 Stanford by 7 and ASU, UCLA and OSU by 3-7 then the advanced metrics would probably show a jump from the 45-55th of the past 3 years to 20-25.
Sorry only thing that matters is scoreboard baby! Did you fucking win the game or did you fucking lose the game?
Under no circumstance should 8-5 be acceptable.
Sure glad this board was not around then.
HTH
And almost every year had the cupcake (San Jose St, Idaho, etc)
These people would have crucified him for going 6-5, 5-6, 8-4 (on field) and 7-4.
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