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James Harden Traded To Nets In A Four Team (Cavaliers, Nets, Pacers, Rockets) Deal.

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SI https://www.si.com/nba/2021/01/13/james-harden-nets-rockets-trade-grade

NBA https://www.nba.com/news/reports-nets-acquire-james-harden-trade

Yahoo https://www.nbcsports.com/boston/celtics/winners-and-losers-massive-james-harden-trade?b

NBC Sports https://nba.nbcsports.com/2021/01/13/report-james-harden-nets-victor-oladipo-rockets-caris-levert-pacers-moving-in-massive-trade/

CBS Sports https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/james-harden-trade-to-nets-leads-to-a-surge-of-reaction-on-twitter-from-nba-players-and-fans/

Nets Daily https://www.netsdaily.com/2021/1/13/22229640/nets-get-james-harden-in-four-team-deal-for-caris-levert-jarrett-allen-taurean-prince-picks-swaps

Indy Cornrows https://www.indycornrows.com/2021/1/13/22229821/pacers-trade-victor-oladipo-acquire-caris-levert-nba

Fear The Sword https://www.fearthesword.com/2021/1/13/22229791/cleveland-cavaliers-jarrett-allen-tauren-prince-trade

The Dream Shake https://www.thedreamshake.com/2021/1/13/22229634/houston-rockets-trade-james-harden-to-brooklyn-nets


ESPN (click link for full article) https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/30706097/sources-houston-rockets-trade-james-harden-brooklyn-nets

The Rockets have sent James Harden to the Nets in a blockbuster four-team trade that also involves the Pacers and Cavaliers, completing the unhappy star's exit from Houston and setting up a potential superteam in Brooklyn, sources told ESPN's Adrian Wojnarowski and Ramona Shelburne.

The Nets sent Houston a package that includes multiple players and draft picks and features guard Caris LeVert, who was then traded to the Pacers for Victor Oladipo, sources told ESPN.

Center Jarrett Allen and forward Taurean Prince are headed from the Nets to the Cavs in the deal, sources told ESPN, while the Rockets receive Cleveland guard Dante Exum and Brooklyn forward Rodions Kurucs.

Houston also receives Brooklyn's three unprotected first-round draft picks -- 2022, 2024 and 2026 -- in the deal, plus pick swaps in 2021, 2023, 2025 and 2027, sources told ESPN. The Rockets also get Cleveland's 2022 first-round pick, via the Milwaukee Bucks, and a future second-round pick from the Pacers.

Brooklyn also gets a 2024 second-round pick from the Cavaliers. The Nets have three open roster spots to fill out their bench, if they choose -- a $5.7 million tax mid-level, the minimum exception and likely a $5.7 million disabled player exception.

The megadeal reunites Harden with former Oklahoma City teammate Kevin Durant in Brooklyn and positions the Nets, who also have All-Star guard Kyrie Irving, as a title contender in the Eastern Conference.

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    TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 19,815
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    Nets are going to blow up under the "disease of me" ... already huge risk of that with Kyrie by himself but adding Harden into the mix is pretty damn amusing.
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    BleachedAnusDawgBleachedAnusDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 10,472
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    Kyrie will screw it all up. Either he continues to no-show and they don't have the firepower to win without him, or he shows up and is butthurt because Harden and Durant have history and he feels like the outsider. Kyrie may be the lowest IQ human in the NBA.
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    IceManLikeGervinIceManLikeGervin Member Posts: 331
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    HoopsRumors (click for full article) https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2021/01/rockets-to-trade-james-harden-to-nets.html

    Nets’ perspective:

    The draft picks the Nets are sending to Houston are their unprotected first-rounders in 2022, 2024, and 2026, according to Wojnarowski, who tweets that the Rockets will have the ability to swap first-round picks with the Nets in 2021, 2023, 2025, and 2027 (without protections, tweets Zach Lowe of ESPN).

    That means the Nets won’t control any of their own first-round picks through 2027, making this a massive bet on the star trio of Harden, Kevin Durant, and Kyrie Irving. Irving is currently away from the team on personal leave and is something of a question mark for the time being, but with Durant and Harden leading the offense, the Nets should have more than enough offensive firepower to get by until he returns.

    The move, which makes Brooklyn an immediate championship contender, reunites Harden with his former Thunder teammate and fellow former MVP Durant. Harden will also team up once again with ex-Rockets coach Mike D’Antoni, who is now a Nets assistant.

    As a result of trading four players for one, the Nets will have three open roster spots to fill, notes ESPN’s Bobby Marks (Twitter link). Minimum-salary signings seem likely, since Brooklyn’s projected luxury tax bill will further increase as a result of taking on Harden’s $41MM+ salary.

    However, the team also still has its $5.72MM taxpayer mid-level exception available and will likely be granted a disabled player exception worth about the same amount following Spencer Dinwiddie‘s ACL tear. As such, Brooklyn has the flexibility to sign players to deals worth more than the minimum.

    Harden had a 15% trade kicker in his contract, but it will be voided since he’s already making the maximum salary.

    While this blockbuster trade is probably a safe bet to work out better than the last time the Nets mortgaged their future by surrendering a series of first-round selections and pick swaps (for Kevin Garnett and Paul Pierce), it’s worth noting that Harden is 31 years old and Durant is 32 — the Nets’ picks for the next couple years figure to fall near the end of the first round, but there’s no guarantee that will still be the case by 2025, 2026, or 2027.

    Rockets’ perspective:

    The Rockets are clearly betting that some of those draft assets will become valuable, opting for a package heavy on picks rather than pushing to complete a trade with the Sixers for Ben Simmons, as was rumored earlier today. Although Simmons was said to be on the table in talks with Philadelphia, it’s not clear what the rest of that deal might have looked like.

    By choosing to trade with the Nets and Pacers, the Rockets landed a two-time All-Star (Oladipo) in addition to four draft picks and four draft swaps. Oladipo will be an unrestricted free agent at season’s end, so there’s no guarantee he’ll be a long-term Rocket. Houston will hold his Bird rights and could re-sign him in the offseason, but acquiring him this early in the season also gives the club the option of extracting further value by flipping him at the March 25 trade deadline.

    Today’s trade agreement marks the end of a saga that began in November, when word first broke that Harden had turned down a two-year, $103MM extension offer and had requested a trade out of Houston. The Rockets didn’t move him in the offseason, prompting the superstar guard to express his displeasure by reporting late to training camp.

    On Tuesday night, he accelerated his departure by telling reporters after a blowout loss that the Rockets were “just not good enough” and that he didn’t believe the situation could be fixed. Houston decided to keep Harden away from the team until a trade agreement could be reached, and ultimately took less than 24 hours to finalize a deal.

    Barring any additional imminent changes, the Rockets will have a fascinating roster in the short term, headlined by a trio of former stars who are coming back from major injuries. Oladipo, who missed a year from 2019-20 with a quad issue, joins John Wall and DeMarcus Cousins, who have looked good this season after long-term injury absences of their own.

    With Christian Wood and P.J. Tucker in the frontcourt, Houston should be a competitive team this season, albeit probably not a legit contender. Today’s trade is more about the future. Having previously traded away a handful of their own future first-round picks and given up a pair of pick swaps in 2021 and 2025, the Rockets have replenished their stash of draft picks in recent months, first by trading Robert Covington and Russell Westbrook and now by moving Harden.

    Houston, which had one open roster spot entering the day, will have to waive a player to complete the trade.

    All three of the players acquired in today’s trade by the Rockets – Oladipo, Kurucs, and Exum – can become free agents at season’s end (Kurucs has a team option for 2021/22).

    It also shouldn’t be overlooked that moving Harden for three less expensive players will take the Rockets $3.65MM below the luxury tax line and $9.95MM below their hard cap, per ESPN’s Bobby Marks (Twitter link). Entering the day, Houston was over the tax and only about $1MM from the hard cap — the club should now have added financial and cap flexibility for the rest of the season.

    Pacers’ perspective:

    Oladipo has been the subject of trade rumors for the last year, since he has at times seemed lukewarm about the idea of remaining in Indiana after his current contract expires in 2021. While the Pacers had insisted they were comfortable hanging onto him and addressing his contract situation when free agency arrived, moving him for LeVert makes sense for the franchise.

    While Oladipo is a stronger defender, LeVert is a talented scorer who is two years younger than Oladipo and is on a more favorable contract. LeVert is earning $16.2MM this season and is under contract for two additional years beyond 2020/21, at an affordable rate of $18.1MM per year.

    As Eric Pincus of Bleacher Report observes (via Twitter), re-signing Oladipo at the price he was seeking would’ve been a challenge for the Pacers, who are already on the hook for lucrative multiyear contracts for Malcolm Brogdon, Domantas Sabonis, and Myles Turner. Locking in LeVert through 2022/23 should be much more financially manageable for Indiana.

    In the short term, the Pacers will also slip under the luxury tax line as a result of swapping Oladipo ($21MM) for LeVert, tweets Marks.

    Charania reports (via Twitter) that the Pacers will also receive a second-rounder in the trade, but it’s not yet clear where that pick is coming from.

    Cavaliers’ perspective:

    The Cavs are acquiring Prince and will send out Exum and a future second-round pick, but this trade is mostly about sending out the Bucks’ 2022 first-rounder in exchange for Allen, a promising young center who will be a restricted free agent during the coming offseason.

    Cleveland already has a number of veteran options at the four and five, including Andre Drummond, Kevin Love, Larry Nance Jr., and JaVale McGee, so acquiring Allen will create more of a logjam in the short term.

    In the long term though, you could make the case that none of the Cavs’ incumbent big men have more upside than Allen, who is averaging a double-double (11.2 PPG, 10.4 RPG) in a part-time role (26.7 MPG) so far this season.

    If Allen starts at least five games for the Cavs during the rest of the 2020/21 season, he’ll meet the starter criteria and his qualifying offer in restricted free agency will be worth $7.7MM. He’d have the option of accepting that one-year offer, negotiating a longer-term deal with Cleveland, or signing an offer sheet with another team, which the Cavs could match.

    In a pair of corresponding roster moves, the Cavs will waive Thon Maker and will end Yogi Ferrell‘s 10-day contract early, per Chris Fedor of Cleveland dot com.
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    IceManLikeGervinIceManLikeGervin Member Posts: 331
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVD4pkAhm8U
    NBA on ESPN: Woj breaks down the blockbuster James Harden trade

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjlGeMsgfhA
    SportsCenter: Stephen A Smith reacts to James Harden being traded to the Brooklyn Nets

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itKePmQRgfU
    CBS Sports: James Harden is getting the trade he wanted. The Houston Rockets are sending their former MVP to the Brooklyn Nets in a massive blockbuster deal. The Rockets will receive four first-round picks and four pick swaps, all of which will come from the Nets except for a 2022 Milwaukee pick currently owned by Cleveland. Houston will also receive Caris LeVert, Dante Exum and Rodions Kurucs. The Cavaliers will get Jarrett Allen and Taurean Prince in the deal, per report.
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    PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 41,775
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    Kyrie will screw it all up. Either he continues to no-show and they don't have the firepower to win without him, or he shows up and is butthurt because Harden and Durant have history and he feels like the outsider. Kyrie may be the lowest IQ human in the NBA.

    Kyrie is a cancerous cancer.

    They'll win a chip first year because they won't have enough time to turn bitch on one another...this assuming Harden can get into playing shape. He was looking like Charles Barkley fat the last pic I saw a couple weeks back.

    Then Kyrie will go full-on bitch mode and quit/retire.

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    BleachedAnusDawgBleachedAnusDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 10,472
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    Harden is paying $13 million more in state income taxes because of this trade. Must be nice.
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    haiehaie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 20,440
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    They've all been the guy elsewhere.

    They're in a baby shit conference. Bucks are the biggest challenge?

    Nets as a team and organization appeared to have their shit together before this trade even. They should at least make 2-3 finals. Win 1 or so.
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    IceManLikeGervinIceManLikeGervin Member Posts: 331
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    haie said:

    They've all been the guy elsewhere.

    They're in a baby shit conference. Bucks are the biggest challenge?

    Nets as a team and organization appeared to have their shit together before this trade even. They should at least make 2-3 finals. Win 1 or so.

    Brooklyn still has their MLE and an injury exception (Spencer Dinwiddie) to use after the Harden trade. Barring injuries this Nets team is a monster on offense and could be just as tough on defense if their three top players all buy in to defend at a high level the rest will follow.

    LBJ has to be crying over this Nets trade and as usual he needs more help...
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    IceManLikeGervinIceManLikeGervin Member Posts: 331
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    James Harden had 32 points, 14 assists, and 11 rebounds in his Brooklyn Nets debut, a 122-115 win over the Orlando Magic.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pxWK7Ho-RA
    NBA Video: James Harden Highlights vs Magic (Jan 16)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSy_vrn-daY
    House Of Highlights: James Harden Post Game Interview

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IP3zC6108c4
    ESPN Video: James Harden Post Game Presser
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    TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 19,815
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    haie said:

    They've all been the guy elsewhere.

    They're in a baby shit conference. Bucks are the biggest challenge?

    Nets as a team and organization appeared to have their shit together before this trade even. They should at least make 2-3 finals. Win 1 or so.

    Brooklyn still has their MLE and an injury exception (Spencer Dinwiddie) to use after the Harden trade. Barring injuries this Nets team is a monster on offense and could be just as tough on defense if their three top players all buy in to defend at a high level the rest will follow.

    LBJ has to be crying over this Nets trade and as usual he needs more help...
    Neither Harden or Kyrie have ever bought into playing defense ... so good luck with that
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    IceManLikeGervinIceManLikeGervin Member Posts: 331
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tm4EP--rcCk
    James Harden Defensive Highlights In The NBA Bubble...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBDmSmypo-I
    Kyrie Irving Defense Highlights (2018-19 NBA Regular Season)
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    IceManLikeGervinIceManLikeGervin Member Posts: 331
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VM9akVCvTH8
    House of Highlights: James Harden Game Highlights vs Bucks- 34 pts, 6 rebs, 12 ast in a win over Milwaukee (1/18). Harden Makes NBA History By Recording 30+ PTS & 10+ AST In His First Two Games With The Nets!

    *TRADE NOTE: When the Pacers conducted a physical on Caris LeVert following his trade from the Nets, they found out he had a mass on his kidney. Pritchard announced on Monday that LeVert was expected to undergo surgery on and that there wasn’t a definitive timetable on his return.

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    Tequilla said:

    Nets are going to blow up under the "disease of me" ... already huge risk of that with Kyrie by himself but adding Harden into the mix is pretty damn amusing.

    It could happen but the Nets winning the title wouldn’t surprise me at all. It’s a long season, but they are winning the East. Durant is looking great this year.
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    Tequilla said:

    Nets are going to blow up under the "disease of me" ... already huge risk of that with Kyrie by himself but adding Harden into the mix is pretty damn amusing.

    It could happen but the Nets winning the title wouldn’t surprise me at all. It’s a long season, but they are winning the East. Durant is looking great this year.
    You’re right it’s a long season ...

    Getting through the East will likely be more challenging than getting through the West
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    IceManLikeGervinIceManLikeGervin Member Posts: 331
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    Nets lose first game with their Big 3 playing together 145-137 in double OT to Cleveland https://www.espn.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=401267376 .

    KD 38 pts (12-25 fg, 3-9 3fg), 12 rebs, 8 ast

    Kyrie Irving 37 pts (15-28, 3-8 3fg), 3 rebs, 2 ast

    James Harden 21 pts (6-14 fg, 3-6 3fg), 10 rebs, 12 ast

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42N0nZDL9Pg
    MLG Highlights Video: Nets vs Cavs Full Game Highlights
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    BleachedAnusDawgBleachedAnusDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 10,472
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    Kyrie comes in and they suck. Shocker.
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,155
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    Kyrie comes in and they suck. Shocker.

    I tune into to Shannon Sharpe and the idiot sometimes. After the Nets won the first time out with Harden but no Irving, Shannon said, until Irving plays we have no idea if this is good or not

    Bingo
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    Tequilla said:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tm4EP--rcCk
    James Harden Defensive Highlights In The NBA Bubble...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBDmSmypo-I
    Kyrie Irving Defense Highlights (2018-19 NBA Regular Season)

    Yikes. That’s bad
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