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DoogieMcDoogerson
DoogieMcDoogerson Member Posts: 2,506
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/12/mutant-coronavirus-united-kingdom-sets-alarms-its-importance-remains-unclear

Some concerning shit in here. Rapid mutation unexpected. @oregonblitzkrieg - viral genetic engineering in the works?

Researchers have watched SARS-CoV-2 evolve in real time more closely than any other virus in history. So far, it has accumulated mutations at a rate of about one to two changes per month. That means many of the genomes sequenced today differ at about 20 points from the earliest genomes sequenced in China in January, but many variants with fewer changes are also circulating. “Because we have very dense surveillance of genomes, you can almost see every step,” Loman says.

But scientists have never seen the virus acquire more than a dozen mutations seemingly at once. They think it happened during a long infection of a single patient that allowed SARS-CoV-2 to go through an extended period of fast evolution, with multiple variants competing for advantage.

In a press conference on Saturday, Chief Science Adviser Patrick Vallance said B.1.1.7, which first appeared in a virus isolated on 20 September, accounted for about 26% of cases in mid-November. “By the week commencing the ninth of December, these figures were much higher,” he said. “So, in London, over 60% of all the cases were the new variant.” Johnson added that the slew of mutations may have increased the virus’ transmissibility by 70%.
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  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    edited December 2020
    If true, will the Manditory vaccines created for asymptotic Covid work for Mutant Deadly Covid?

    or, is it just like the flu where most of the time, the shot is worthless?
  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    Well, we Were told back in 2017 when the pandemic was being planned that Covid -19 was just a trial run for Super-Covid in 2021
  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
  • Bob_C
    Bob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,641 Founders Club

    https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/12/mutant-coronavirus-united-kingdom-sets-alarms-its-importance-remains-unclear

    Some concerning shit in here. Rapid mutation unexpected. @oregonblitzkrieg - viral genetic engineering in the works?

    Researchers have watched SARS-CoV-2 evolve in real time more closely than any other virus in history. So far, it has accumulated mutations at a rate of about one to two changes per month. That means many of the genomes sequenced today differ at about 20 points from the earliest genomes sequenced in China in January, but many variants with fewer changes are also circulating. “Because we have very dense surveillance of genomes, you can almost see every step,” Loman says.

    But scientists have never seen the virus acquire more than a dozen mutations seemingly at once. They think it happened during a long infection of a single patient that allowed SARS-CoV-2 to go through an extended period of fast evolution, with multiple variants competing for advantage.

    In a press conference on Saturday, Chief Science Adviser Patrick Vallance said B.1.1.7, which first appeared in a virus isolated on 20 September, accounted for about 26% of cases in mid-November. “By the week commencing the ninth of December, these figures were much higher,” he said. “So, in London, over 60% of all the cases were the new variant.” Johnson added that the slew of mutations may have increased the virus’ transmissibility by 70%.

    Most viruses go through this mutation where they get more contagious but weaker. I’m sure we’ll hear about the cases, but not the deaths just like always.
  • RoadTrip
    RoadTrip Member Posts: 8,146
    Bob_C said:

    https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/12/mutant-coronavirus-united-kingdom-sets-alarms-its-importance-remains-unclear

    Some concerning shit in here. Rapid mutation unexpected. @oregonblitzkrieg - viral genetic engineering in the works?

    Researchers have watched SARS-CoV-2 evolve in real time more closely than any other virus in history. So far, it has accumulated mutations at a rate of about one to two changes per month. That means many of the genomes sequenced today differ at about 20 points from the earliest genomes sequenced in China in January, but many variants with fewer changes are also circulating. “Because we have very dense surveillance of genomes, you can almost see every step,” Loman says.

    But scientists have never seen the virus acquire more than a dozen mutations seemingly at once. They think it happened during a long infection of a single patient that allowed SARS-CoV-2 to go through an extended period of fast evolution, with multiple variants competing for advantage.

    In a press conference on Saturday, Chief Science Adviser Patrick Vallance said B.1.1.7, which first appeared in a virus isolated on 20 September, accounted for about 26% of cases in mid-November. “By the week commencing the ninth of December, these figures were much higher,” he said. “So, in London, over 60% of all the cases were the new variant.” Johnson added that the slew of mutations may have increased the virus’ transmissibility by 70%.

    Most viruses go through this mutation where they get more contagious but weaker. I’m sure we’ll hear about the cases, but not the deaths just like always.
    Exactly! But why is nobody asking the question WHY anymore? This fucking flu is not a great killer of people but now our federal government is running TV adds about how this is going to kill you. Mother fucker what the fuck is wrong with people today? Why isn't our government running adds telling us not to get into a car or a shower for fuck's sake? Old people fucking die people. Some healthy, young people die inexplicably from all kinds of things including the fucking flu every fucking year. Wake the fuck up you dipshit Coronobros or don't it's hard to think and act for youself.
  • dflea
    dflea Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,287 Swaye's Wigwam
    edited December 2020
    If the spike protein hasn't changed, it's not big news.
  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    #BrexitRevenge
  • jecornel
    jecornel Member Posts: 9,737
  • GreenRiverGatorz
    GreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,165
    doogie said:

    If true, will the Manditory vaccines created for asymptotic Covid work for Mutant Deadly Covid?

    or, is it just like the flu where most of the time, the shot is worthless?

    As far as we know the vaccine will still work. It typically takes years for a virus to mutate to the point where vaccines have to be adjusted for it.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,029

    doogie said:

    If true, will the Manditory vaccines created for asymptotic Covid work for Mutant Deadly Covid?

    or, is it just like the flu where most of the time, the shot is worthless?

    As far as we know the vaccine will still work. It typically takes years for a virus to mutate to the point where vaccines have to be adjusted for it.
    Not if the mutated version has already been tee'd up in the lab.

  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072

    doogie said:

    If true, will the Manditory vaccines created for asymptotic Covid work for Mutant Deadly Covid?

    or, is it just like the flu where most of the time, the shot is worthless?

    As far as we know the vaccine will still work. It typically takes years for a virus to mutate to the point where vaccines have to be adjusted for it.
    The flu vaccine is 38% effective this year.

    There is no HIV vaccine at all

    Who is “we”?
  • dflea
    dflea Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,287 Swaye's Wigwam
    doogie said:

    doogie said:

    If true, will the Manditory vaccines created for asymptotic Covid work for Mutant Deadly Covid?

    or, is it just like the flu where most of the time, the shot is worthless?

    As far as we know the vaccine will still work. It typically takes years for a virus to mutate to the point where vaccines have to be adjusted for it.
    The flu vaccine is 38% effective this year.

    There is no HIV vaccine at all

    Who is “we”?
    What's your fucking point, Eeyore?
  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,553 Standard Supporter
    dflea said:

    If the spike protein hasn't changed, it's not big news.

    Sounds like the new vaccine mechanism will attach at several possible spike sites.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/scientists-mps-ask-where-evidence-70-more-contagious-mutant-covid

    You are going to read and hear about a million and one variant viruses, because viruses mutate by nature. It’s scary, I know. But, a couple of amino acids is not the same a whole whole new virus strain in the way that we’ve been taught to think about flu.

    What is happening, often times, is selective pressure. As the virus transmits it learns how to be better at transmitting. This is why you hear “circulating faster than last variant”...

    But, don’t get in a panic over it. There will take a large amount of genetic diversity to completely make the current vaccines useless... And, here is why:

    Unlike monoclonal antibody therapies, vaccines (especially those using the whole spike protein) make polyclonal antibody responses. This means that the antibodies your vaccinated body will make will be able to bind the coronavirus spike in multiple places... not just one...


    KizzyPhD
    @KizzyPhD
    ·
    Apr 14
    Taking into account this, based on previous knowledge obtained from our MERS work, we opted to target the whole spike protein and cloud that baby with antibodies from every possible angle (added to mRNA-elicited T cell responses).

    Here is a simulation...


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    Julian Sapp
    @JulianSapp
    · Apr 14
    @KizzyPhD something to keep an eye on #covid19 crown mutation reported in #India https://amp.scmp.com/news/china/science/article/3079678/coronavirus-mutation-threatens-race-develop-vaccine?__twitter_impression=true


  • GreenRiverGatorz
    GreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,165
    doogie said:

    doogie said:

    If true, will the Manditory vaccines created for asymptotic Covid work for Mutant Deadly Covid?

    or, is it just like the flu where most of the time, the shot is worthless?

    As far as we know the vaccine will still work. It typically takes years for a virus to mutate to the point where vaccines have to be adjusted for it.
    The flu vaccine is 38% effective this year.

    There is no HIV vaccine at all

    Who is “we”?
    Me and my CDC antifa buddies.

    This isn't fucking hard. Just read a god damn article you donkey. Or don't bother getting vaccinated. I don't care.

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-new-strain-uk-what-we-know/
  • Blu82
    Blu82 Member Posts: 1,671
    RE: OBK's poast.
    I'm all in for more sheep.
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913
    Most of the things that were considered to be crackpot, tinfoil in March have shown to be true. So there’s that.
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913
    dflea said:

    doogie said:

    doogie said:

    If true, will the Manditory vaccines created for asymptotic Covid work for Mutant Deadly Covid?

    or, is it just like the flu where most of the time, the shot is worthless?

    As far as we know the vaccine will still work. It typically takes years for a virus to mutate to the point where vaccines have to be adjusted for it.
    The flu vaccine is 38% effective this year.

    There is no HIV vaccine at all

    Who is “we”?
    What's your fucking point, Eeyore?
    Stick to the stream fishstick. The ones without their guns in the bottom of the river are speaking now.
  • dflea
    dflea Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,287 Swaye's Wigwam
    Kaepsknee said:

    Most of the things that were considered to be crackpot, tinfoil in March have shown to be true. So there’s that.

    No they didn't ya fucking liar.
  • dflea
    dflea Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,287 Swaye's Wigwam
    Kaepsknee said:

    dflea said:

    doogie said:

    doogie said:

    If true, will the Manditory vaccines created for asymptotic Covid work for Mutant Deadly Covid?

    or, is it just like the flu where most of the time, the shot is worthless?

    As far as we know the vaccine will still work. It typically takes years for a virus to mutate to the point where vaccines have to be adjusted for it.
    The flu vaccine is 38% effective this year.

    There is no HIV vaccine at all

    Who is “we”?
    What's your fucking point, Eeyore?
    Stick to the stream fishstick. The ones without their guns in the bottom of the river are speaking now.
    Shut up, bitch. You're not speaking, you're crying - like the little fucking bitch you are.

    You should ask Santa for a pair of balls for Christmas.
  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    “Out of sativa” Holiday flea seems a little tense today
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,701 Standard Supporter
    Another fake news story to cow the sheeple. Deepstatebros like it.
  • dflea
    dflea Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,287 Swaye's Wigwam
    doogie said:

    “Out of sativa” Holiday flea seems a little tense today

    Why would I be tense? I just have a couple more hours of loose ends to tie up and I'm shifting gears into eating, drinking, fishing, and being merry.

    You guys be sure to start 67 more threads of gweebing and sniveling while you claim I'm the one that's upset though.

    Santa is going to leave you coal.

    lol