California did it the right way.

And yet, here we are.
California - the country's largest and richest state - is the new epicenter of America's coronavirus crisis, with unprecedented surges of seriously infected patients threatening to overwhelm hospitals and overflow morgues.
The state is reporting unnerving numbers: California has set nationwide records for new cases again and again in the past week - most recently on Wednesday, when it posted more than 41,000 infections. If California were a country, it would be among the world leaders in new covid-19 cases, ahead of India, Germany and Britain.
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Sounds grim
Hopefully Biden does more of the same -
Saint Gavin and Queen Nancy will save them.
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Cases don't matter.
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Inslee will start instituting sympathy lockdowns here out of respect for Californians.
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Striking data considering:
1) Similar Climate
2) High Density Populations in big cities
3) Completely opposite public health strategy
Lockdowns clearly don't work. But we knew that.
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Yeah makes me wonder is the masks are effective... nope unless you have an n95
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Well, I live in San Mateo County. Looking at a smaller set of data, it appears every time they close us down, the worse it gets. I really think let me people do their thing, data wise, has been the best action.
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Sounds like something a science denier would sayalumni94 said:Well, I live in San Mateo County. Looking at a smaller set of data, it appears every time they close us down, the worse it gets. I really think let me people do their thing, data wise, has been the best action.
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Science vs. Math showdown.Pitchfork51 said:
Sounds like something a science denier would sayalumni94 said:Well, I live in San Mateo County. Looking at a smaller set of data, it appears every time they close us down, the worse it gets. I really think let me people do their thing, data wise, has been the best action.
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Dance off?alumni94 said:
Science vs. Math showdown.Pitchfork51 said:
Sounds like something a science denier would sayalumni94 said:Well, I live in San Mateo County. Looking at a smaller set of data, it appears every time they close us down, the worse it gets. I really think let me people do their thing, data wise, has been the best action.
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CA just needed more time to get their guys in there. But still, they've got some work to do to catch up to FL.DoogieMcDoogerson said:Striking data considering:
1) Similar Climate
2) High Density Populations in big cities
3) Completely opposite public health strategy
Lockdowns clearly don't work. But we knew that.
FL - 950 Deaths / 1M
CA - 563 Deaths / 1M
We'll have to see how it shakes out in the end. -
Also noteworthy, one state has a cratered economy and one doesn’t. Similar total deaths, Cali in the lead there currently.YellowSnow said:
CA just needed more time to get their guys in there. But still, they've got some work to do to catch up to FL.DoogieMcDoogerson said:Striking data considering:
1) Similar Climate
2) High Density Populations in big cities
3) Completely opposite public health strategy
Lockdowns clearly don't work. But we knew that.
FL - 950 Deaths / 1M
CA - 563 Deaths / 1M
We'll have to see how it shakes out in the end. -
California can do what it wants.
Just returned from 10 days in Florida.
Everyone in masks.
Go figure. -
No. Not similar total deaths. FL almost double per capita.Bob_C said:
Also noteworthy, one state has a cratered economy and one doesn’t. Similar total deaths, Cali in the lead there currently.YellowSnow said:
CA just needed more time to get their guys in there. But still, they've got some work to do to catch up to FL.DoogieMcDoogerson said:Striking data considering:
1) Similar Climate
2) High Density Populations in big cities
3) Completely opposite public health strategy
Lockdowns clearly don't work. But we knew that.
FL - 950 Deaths / 1M
CA - 563 Deaths / 1M
We'll have to see how it shakes out in the end.
I think the lock downs are mostly FS and counter productive. But let’s CA cordwood has been way lower than FL and that’s fact. -
Looked it up yesterday, CA at 22k, FL at 20k.YellowSnow said:
No. Not similar total deaths. FL almost double per capita.Bob_C said:
Also noteworthy, one state has a cratered economy and one doesn’t. Similar total deaths, Cali in the lead there currently.YellowSnow said:
CA just needed more time to get their guys in there. But still, they've got some work to do to catch up to FL.DoogieMcDoogerson said:Striking data considering:
1) Similar Climate
2) High Density Populations in big cities
3) Completely opposite public health strategy
Lockdowns clearly don't work. But we knew that.
FL - 950 Deaths / 1M
CA - 563 Deaths / 1M
We'll have to see how it shakes out in the end.
I think the lock downs are mostly FS and counter productive. But let’s CA cordwood has been way lower than FL and that’s fact. -
Yella is talking deaths per million. More people in Cali, hence a lower rate of death. He's also saying that Cali might catch up because nothing we do seems to really work in the long run.Bob_C said:
Looked it up yesterday, CA at 22k, FL at 20k.YellowSnow said:
No. Not similar total deaths. FL almost double per capita.Bob_C said:
Also noteworthy, one state has a cratered economy and one doesn’t. Similar total deaths, Cali in the lead there currently.YellowSnow said:
CA just needed more time to get their guys in there. But still, they've got some work to do to catch up to FL.DoogieMcDoogerson said:Striking data considering:
1) Similar Climate
2) High Density Populations in big cities
3) Completely opposite public health strategy
Lockdowns clearly don't work. But we knew that.
FL - 950 Deaths / 1M
CA - 563 Deaths / 1M
We'll have to see how it shakes out in the end.
I think the lock downs are mostly FS and counter productive. But let’s CA cordwood has been way lower than FL and that’s fact. -
Washington Post just today is reporting that this is all Trump's fault because he didn't take it seriously enough.theknowledge said:
Yella is talking deaths per million. More people in Cali, hence a lower rate of death. He's also saying that Cali might catch up because nothing we do seems to really work in the long run.Bob_C said:
Looked it up yesterday, CA at 22k, FL at 20k.YellowSnow said:
No. Not similar total deaths. FL almost double per capita.Bob_C said:
Also noteworthy, one state has a cratered economy and one doesn’t. Similar total deaths, Cali in the lead there currently.YellowSnow said:
CA just needed more time to get their guys in there. But still, they've got some work to do to catch up to FL.DoogieMcDoogerson said:Striking data considering:
1) Similar Climate
2) High Density Populations in big cities
3) Completely opposite public health strategy
Lockdowns clearly don't work. But we knew that.
FL - 950 Deaths / 1M
CA - 563 Deaths / 1M
We'll have to see how it shakes out in the end.
I think the lock downs are mostly FS and counter productive. But let’s CA cordwood has been way lower than FL and that’s fact. -
But South Dakota!
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Shutdown the state. Eliminate competition. Newsom’s winery gets to stay open. Profit!
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Yella has to account for the fact that Florida has a much older population...it’s basically people 75+ dying from this.
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500 or 950 out of a million doesn’t matter.
It’s foolish to destroy small businesses for some old people near death anyhow. As Obama said, give the Olds pills and let them die in a fog of opiates as life goes forward for everyone else. -
He said total deaths not similar. I showed that was wrong. But anyways, you see totals referenced when it serves and you see ratios when it serves.theknowledge said:
Yella is talking deaths per million. More people in Cali, hence a lower rate of death. He's also saying that Cali might catch up because nothing we do seems to really work in the long run.Bob_C said:
Looked it up yesterday, CA at 22k, FL at 20k.YellowSnow said:
No. Not similar total deaths. FL almost double per capita.Bob_C said:
Also noteworthy, one state has a cratered economy and one doesn’t. Similar total deaths, Cali in the lead there currently.YellowSnow said:
CA just needed more time to get their guys in there. But still, they've got some work to do to catch up to FL.DoogieMcDoogerson said:Striking data considering:
1) Similar Climate
2) High Density Populations in big cities
3) Completely opposite public health strategy
Lockdowns clearly don't work. But we knew that.
FL - 950 Deaths / 1M
CA - 563 Deaths / 1M
We'll have to see how it shakes out in the end.
I think the lock downs are mostly FS and counter productive. But let’s CA cordwood has been way lower than FL and that’s fact.
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Might want to look at the age range of those dying. Just a thought.YellowSnow said:
No. Not similar total deaths. FL almost double per capita.Bob_C said:
Also noteworthy, one state has a cratered economy and one doesn’t. Similar total deaths, Cali in the lead there currently.YellowSnow said:
CA just needed more time to get their guys in there. But still, they've got some work to do to catch up to FL.DoogieMcDoogerson said:Striking data considering:
1) Similar Climate
2) High Density Populations in big cities
3) Completely opposite public health strategy
Lockdowns clearly don't work. But we knew that.
FL - 950 Deaths / 1M
CA - 563 Deaths / 1M
We'll have to see how it shakes out in the end.
I think the lock downs are mostly FS and counter productive. But let’s CA cordwood has been way lower than FL and that’s fact. -
My bad if I misread your earlier comment. At the end of the day, per capita is the more relevant stat than total deaths.Bob_C said:
He said total deaths not similar. I showed that was wrong. But anyways, you see totals referenced when it serves and you see ratios when it serves.theknowledge said:
Yella is talking deaths per million. More people in Cali, hence a lower rate of death. He's also saying that Cali might catch up because nothing we do seems to really work in the long run.Bob_C said:
Looked it up yesterday, CA at 22k, FL at 20k.YellowSnow said:
No. Not similar total deaths. FL almost double per capita.Bob_C said:
Also noteworthy, one state has a cratered economy and one doesn’t. Similar total deaths, Cali in the lead there currently.YellowSnow said:
CA just needed more time to get their guys in there. But still, they've got some work to do to catch up to FL.DoogieMcDoogerson said:Striking data considering:
1) Similar Climate
2) High Density Populations in big cities
3) Completely opposite public health strategy
Lockdowns clearly don't work. But we knew that.
FL - 950 Deaths / 1M
CA - 563 Deaths / 1M
We'll have to see how it shakes out in the end.
I think the lock downs are mostly FS and counter productive. But let’s CA cordwood has been way lower than FL and that’s fact. -
Yeah, I would suspect higher percentage of really olds in FL is playing a role here.HoustonHusky said:Yella has to account for the fact that Florida has a much older population...it’s basically people 75+ dying from this.
CA is also 40% Hispanic compared with 23% for Florida. From what I can gather there is a higher prevalence of co-morbidities (e.g, diabetes) within the Hispanic community. -
Also lots of Cuban's in Florida are largely of Spanish ancestry. Lots of Hispanics in Cali have lots of Indian blood. Indians have a genetic prevalence to develop diabetes in a high carb/sugar diet.YellowSnow said:
Yeah, I would suspect higher percentage of really olds in FL is playing a role here.HoustonHusky said:Yella has to account for the fact that Florida has a much older population...it’s basically people 75+ dying from this.
CA is also 40% Hispanic compared with 23% for Florida. From what I can gather there is a higher prevalence of co-morbidities (e.g, diabetes) within the Hispanic community. -
DREAD! GRIM! FUCK!
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WestlinnDuck said:
Also lots of Cuban's in Florida are largely of Spanish ancestry. Lots of Hispanics in Cali have lots of Indian blood. Indians have a genetic prevalence to become communists.YellowSnow said:
Yeah, I would suspect higher percentage of really olds in FL is playing a role here.HoustonHusky said:Yella has to account for the fact that Florida has a much older population...it’s basically people 75+ dying from this.
CA is also 40% Hispanic compared with 23% for Florida. From what I can gather there is a higher prevalence of co-morbidities (e.g, diabetes) within the Hispanic community.