Thots RE: Utah Win
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I actually get the feeling that he's trying real hard to keep his weight down in order to play his position.DodgyBloke said:The way Asa has played I'm starting to think that during his recruitment he wasn't having a hard time deciding between Notre Dame and W but he wanted to go to ND but they pulled out last minute and he was left with us.
Hence the "reluctant tackling" (honestly I have not noticed)
If that makes any sense.
During his recruitment supposedly notre dumbass wanted him as a rover recruit primarily but washington (jimmy) would take him as a secondary recruit which was what he wanted.
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He could put on 20 more pounds and not be too big for safety.animate said:
I actually get the feeling that he's trying real hard to keep his weight down in order to play his position.DodgyBloke said:The way Asa has played I'm starting to think that during his recruitment he wasn't having a hard time deciding between Notre Dame and W but he wanted to go to ND but they pulled out last minute and he was left with us.
Hence the "reluctant tackling" (honestly I have not noticed)
If that makes any sense.
During his recruitment supposedly notre dumbass wanted him as a rover recruit primarily but washington (jimmy) would take him as a secondary recruit which was what he wanted.
The feeling was that he would gain too much weight in college with his frame.
If anything he’s too skinny. -
I agree somewhat but I was getting the feeling he gained more weight than his body could handle making him seem slow out on the field.animate said:
I actually get the feeling that he's trying real hard to keep his weight down in order to play his position.DodgyBloke said:The way Asa has played I'm starting to think that during his recruitment he wasn't having a hard time deciding between Notre Dame and W but he wanted to go to ND but they pulled out last minute and he was left with us.
Hence the "reluctant tackling" (honestly I have not noticed)
If that makes any sense.
During his recruitment supposedly notre dumbass wanted him as a rover recruit primarily but washington (jimmy) would take him as a secondary recruit which was what he wanted.
The feeling was that he would gain too much weight in college with his frame. -
Why can I not stop watching that stupid South Park guy drop a massive pile..DoogCourics said:RoadDawg55 said:I agree with @Houhusky that it is a mindset thing and doesn’t often change. He doesn’t like to hit which is kind of a prerequisite of playing safety. It’s not an experience thing. Young players aren’t ready physically sometimes but that’s not an excuse to be scared of contact.
I think he’s covering well. I haven’t noticed him give up any plays in the pass game, other than one ticky tack PI to Arizona.
I have a hard time saying he sucks. He’s soft and a bad tackler and I’ve noticed it since he played last year. I can’t recall a player in recent memory that was as adverse to contact as Turner looks to be.
The youth excuse is valid at times for mental errors or lacking strength. It’s doog bullshit about being physical. That is 100% a mindset thing and we have had tons of guys that made mistakes in their youth but at least had a physical mindset.
I see Ulo fuck up a time or two every game but it’s not because he’s soft. He didn’t need any games to show physicality. Errors because of aggression are preferable to errors because of being soft.
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I would try watching him if the safeties were in the TV pictureRoadDawg55 said:
Asa could have absolutely lit up the Arizona receiver on one of the break ups. Cook hits. Asa is the most talented, but if you haven’t noticed how little he likes to hit, you haven’t been watching. I recommend watching him for a handful of plays. I guarantee it is noticeable.DoogCourics said:
For everyone who has been frustrated with Asa seeming to avoid contact, I wanted to point out this play again. Obviously Molden played it amazing, but peep Alex Cook. He was flying in and looking to deliver a knock out. Had the runner not been first hit by Molden, Cook would have blown him up.
Encouraging, especially when considering that Lake said Cook won the job because he’s an enforcer. Would like to see this continue.
As for Asa, this is the kind of play I want to see from him. He was soft against Utah, bailing out on the Bentley TD scramble, but against Arizona he had two breakups across the middle. More of Arizona Asa, less of Utah Asa. -
The bigger my TV has gotten, the more ESPN and Fox have limited the view. You'd think, with modern technology, we could have a better (and more customizable) viewing experience...CFetters_Nacho_Lover said:
I would try watching him if the safeties were in the TV pictureRoadDawg55 said:
Asa could have absolutely lit up the Arizona receiver on one of the break ups. Cook hits. Asa is the most talented, but if you haven’t noticed how little he likes to hit, you haven’t been watching. I recommend watching him for a handful of plays. I guarantee it is noticeable.DoogCourics said:
For everyone who has been frustrated with Asa seeming to avoid contact, I wanted to point out this play again. Obviously Molden played it amazing, but peep Alex Cook. He was flying in and looking to deliver a knock out. Had the runner not been first hit by Molden, Cook would have blown him up.
Encouraging, especially when considering that Lake said Cook won the job because he’s an enforcer. Would like to see this continue.
As for Asa, this is the kind of play I want to see from him. He was soft against Utah, bailing out on the Bentley TD scramble, but against Arizona he had two breakups across the middle. More of Arizona Asa, less of Utah Asa. -
He does not make the tackle when needed and has been a terrible tackler so far at UW. It is possible to respect his talent and be honest about his tackling and avoiding contact. I noticed it last year and commented on it. It’s continued this year.backthepack said:
Agree. He’s graded out fine. He makes the tackle when he’s supposed to the make tackle. He’s pretty good in coverage. LIPO some of you morons seem to forget we have the best DB developer in the entire country as our head coach.dnc said:
STOp.Houhusky said:
Players dont often go from soft pussy to big dick swinger.RoadDawg55 said:
One of your better efforts. Thank you. Just call it how it is. Once he starts making plays and not being a pussy, I’ll give him props.FireCohen said:Spam chancellor is soft until he isn’t
When I watch back plays, I dont see a guy confused by the offensive scheme, taking wrong angles because the speed difference, or a step slow because he is over thinking things. Its not a matter of struggling to get into the game or just getting overpowered. I see a guy unwilling to even attempt to be physical.
Asa is supposed to be the 6'3" hard hitting safety that has it really fucking easy given how good the corners are. He played in every game last year except Cal (12 games).
Its not a physical or experience issue... its clearly his mentality.
Asa is easily one of the most infuriating players to watch this year, Olofosohioio is sprinting from Alaska to make tackles, Undersized molden is constantly throwing himself into the pile, ZTF is balling out, the corners are some of the best in the country and Asa is the weak link on the defense, mostly because he is fagging out not because he doesnt have the physical ability to play football.
Worst safety since Tripper Johnson.
He’s gotten on my nerves on a couple of plays and is underachieving but he’s not even worse than Kevin King was at safety.
We’ve been spoiled with amazing DB play lately and forgotten what actual bad DBs look like.
Asa will either figure it out or get beaten out.
Part of the reason he pisses me off so much is because he is talented and should be better. Husky Fans aren’t supposed to be the type to excuse being a pussy. I don’t even hate Asa and have a hard time saying he sucks, but cut the fucking excuses.
Go watch Utah’s long run before their 2nd TD (3:15) and get back to me about Asa on the play. Bandes got double teamed and driven back 15 yards. He has to do better regardless of youth. McDonald gets blocked and makes a try hard effort to bring down the RB from behind. Tupatala gets washed in the mess and loses his feet. Asa dances around and bitches out. The CB (Taylor) misses a tackle too,
It’s terrible fucking football from him and lost the TBS addict bullshit and admit it’s a dogshit effort. I’m not making this shit up.
Watch how pathetic his effort is at 3:15. We have all seen 2:30, the goal line play.
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I guess we should excuse Sirmon’s missed plays because it’s his third start. I hated Sirmon last year and still think he might be our worst starter. It’s okay to notice when guys are missing plays and be critical. We are here to talk football, not make excuses because someone was a DDY 3.
I hope Turner starts making plays. It’s really fucking dumb and dishonest to make excuses for guys tho based on TBS opinions. It’s dishonest doog shit. -
the good news is you clearly stand out on this defense if you dont hit
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3:27 is also a really poor moment for Asa.RoadDawg55 said:
He does not make the tackle when needed and has been a terrible tackler so far at UW. It is possible to respect his talent and be honest about his tackling and avoiding contact. I noticed it last year and commented on it. It’s continued this year.backthepack said:
Agree. He’s graded out fine. He makes the tackle when he’s supposed to the make tackle. He’s pretty good in coverage. LIPO some of you morons seem to forget we have the best DB developer in the entire country as our head coach.dnc said:
STOp.Houhusky said:
Players dont often go from soft pussy to big dick swinger.RoadDawg55 said:
One of your better efforts. Thank you. Just call it how it is. Once he starts making plays and not being a pussy, I’ll give him props.FireCohen said:Spam chancellor is soft until he isn’t
When I watch back plays, I dont see a guy confused by the offensive scheme, taking wrong angles because the speed difference, or a step slow because he is over thinking things. Its not a matter of struggling to get into the game or just getting overpowered. I see a guy unwilling to even attempt to be physical.
Asa is supposed to be the 6'3" hard hitting safety that has it really fucking easy given how good the corners are. He played in every game last year except Cal (12 games).
Its not a physical or experience issue... its clearly his mentality.
Asa is easily one of the most infuriating players to watch this year, Olofosohioio is sprinting from Alaska to make tackles, Undersized molden is constantly throwing himself into the pile, ZTF is balling out, the corners are some of the best in the country and Asa is the weak link on the defense, mostly because he is fagging out not because he doesnt have the physical ability to play football.
Worst safety since Tripper Johnson.
He’s gotten on my nerves on a couple of plays and is underachieving but he’s not even worse than Kevin King was at safety.
We’ve been spoiled with amazing DB play lately and forgotten what actual bad DBs look like.
Asa will either figure it out or get beaten out.
Part of the reason he pisses me off so much is because he is talented and should be better. Husky Fans aren’t supposed to be the type to excuse being a pussy. I don’t even hate Asa and have a hard time saying he sucks, but cut the fucking excuses.
Go watch Utah’s long run before their 2nd TD (3:15) and get back to me about Asa on the play. Bandes got double teamed and driven back 15 yards. He has to do better regardless of youth. McDonald gets blocked and makes a try hard effort to bring down the RB from behind. Tupatala gets washed in the mess and loses his feet. Asa dances around and bitches out. The CB (Taylor) misses a tackle too,
It’s terrible fucking football from him and lost the TBS addict bullshit and admit it’s a dogshit effort. I’m not making this shit up.
Watch how pathetic his effort is at 3:15. We have all seen 2:30, the goal line play.https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5kuTGD3lLvc -
Pleasant is a good blocker and a good athlete to go with impressive size. That 4th quarter reception and run was a good example of his overall skill set. I think he's the most physically talented of the backs aside from Davis. He just doesn't always get everything he can out of carries due to hesitation and not understanding when and how to use that weight.RoadDawg55 said:
Forgot about that. He did well that game.whatshouldicareabout said:
Kamari has always been a reliable blocker. Recall a few years ago when we played Colorado and Kamari was used exclusively to pick up CU's blitzes and lead for Gaskin.dnc said:
Kamari's block was incredible in real time. Free blitzer up the middle and Kamari obliterated him. That play never happens without him.DoogCourics said:
I don't see McGrew or Davis making those types of blocks (at least not yet for Davis).
He's a fucking college sophomore and a high 4* safety and doesn’t like to tackle. That's not a good sign and it's not something the youth excuse is valid for. You caIf he can't play physically enough to play the position he shouldn't be playing, period. Safeties have to tackle.GrundleStiltzkin said:backthepack said:
It’s almost like he’s a sophomore in his 3rd start. LIPO assholes.DoogCourics said:
For everyone who has been frustrated with Asa seeming to avoid contact, I wanted to point out this play again. Obviously Molden played it amazing, but peep Alex Cook. He was flying in and looking to deliver a knock out. Had the runner not been first hit by Molden, Cook would have blown him up.
Encouraging, especially when considering that Lake said Cook won the job because he’s an enforcer. Would like to see this continue.
As for Asa, this is the kind of play I want to see from him. He was soft against Utah, bailing out on the Bentley TD scramble, but against Arizona he had two breakups across the middle. More of Arizona Asa, less of Utah Asa.
I'm with Roadie on this. UW doesn't suffer from the dearth of talent like we became used to since the advent of message boards. Excusing the starting safety, who doesn't like contact, because he's a tall, athletic champion of the underwear olympics isnt necessary anymore. Tripper Johnson isn't the next guy in the depth.backthepack said:
Agree. He’s graded out fine. He makes the tackle when he’s supposed to the make tackle. He’s pretty good in coverage. LIPO some of you morons seem to forget we have the best DB developer in the entire country as our head coach.dnc said:
STOp.Houhusky said:
Players dont often go from soft pussy to big dick swinger.RoadDawg55 said:
One of your better efforts. Thank you. Just call it how it is. Once he starts making plays and not being a pussy, I’ll give him props.FireCohen said:Spam chancellor is soft until he isn’t
When I watch back plays, I dont see a guy confused by the offensive scheme, taking wrong angles because the speed difference, or a step slow because he is over thinking things. Its not a matter of struggling to get into the game or just getting overpowered. I see a guy unwilling to even attempt to be physical.
Asa is supposed to be the 6'3" hard hitting safety that has it really fucking easy given how good the corners are. He played in every game last year except Cal (12 games).
Its not a physical or experience issue... its clearly his mentality.
Asa is easily one of the most infuriating players to watch this year, Olofosohioio is sprinting from Alaska to make tackles, Undersized molden is constantly throwing himself into the pile, ZTF is balling out, the corners are some of the best in the country and Asa is the weak link on the defense, mostly because he is fagging out not because he doesnt have the physical ability to play football.
Worst safety since Tripper Johnson.
He’s gotten on my nerves on a couple of plays and is underachieving but he’s not even worse than Kevin King was at safety.
We’ve been spoiled with amazing DB play lately and forgotten what actual bad DBs look like.
Asa will either figure it out or get beaten out.
Turner could be great and could have a long NFL career ahead of him, but not if he can't be a physical tackler. Get his ass off the field and motivate him or it won't get better. -
Asa may turn out to be very good.
He's not very good now and to suggest otherwise is idiotic. -
And we're hard on him because he has AA potential for sure. I really, really want to like him but he's been pretty frustrating albeit with some good flashes.
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ESPN needs to hire me to run the production of 1 fucking game to show them how to provide the viewers with a proper view. Just 1 game, that’s all I need.BCoveysLifeInsPolicy said:
The bigger my TV has gotten, the more ESPN and Fox have limited the view. You'd think, with modern technology, we could have a better (and more customizable) viewing experience...CFetters_Nacho_Lover said:
I would try watching him if the safeties were in the TV pictureRoadDawg55 said:
Asa could have absolutely lit up the Arizona receiver on one of the break ups. Cook hits. Asa is the most talented, but if you haven’t noticed how little he likes to hit, you haven’t been watching. I recommend watching him for a handful of plays. I guarantee it is noticeable.DoogCourics said:
For everyone who has been frustrated with Asa seeming to avoid contact, I wanted to point out this play again. Obviously Molden played it amazing, but peep Alex Cook. He was flying in and looking to deliver a knock out. Had the runner not been first hit by Molden, Cook would have blown him up.
Encouraging, especially when considering that Lake said Cook won the job because he’s an enforcer. Would like to see this continue.
As for Asa, this is the kind of play I want to see from him. He was soft against Utah, bailing out on the Bentley TD scramble, but against Arizona he had two breakups across the middle. More of Arizona Asa, less of Utah Asa.
Until then and as always, fuck ESPN. -
I want to believe in Sirmon's natural LB IQ, but right now he's almost as bad as Beef Wellington and Manure. Runs like a Clydesdale, isn't a hitter, and is horrible in pass defense because he's so slow and flat-footed. Looks like a starting LB for Eastern, not the Dawgs. So bummed Calvert appears to still be hurt, cause I think a healthy Calvert would be starting alongside War Daddy Eddie. Phonzo, Tafisi, and Heimuli have all been pretty meh thus far. Phonzo would be my vote to usurp Sirmon.RoadDawg55 said:I guess we should excuse Sirmon’s missed plays because it’s his third start. I hated Sirmon last year and still think he might be our worst starter. It’s okay to notice when guys are missing plays and be critical. We are here to talk football, not make excuses because someone was a DDY 3.
I hope Turner starts making plays. It’s really fucking dumb and dishonest to make excuses for guys tho based on TBS opinions. It’s dishonest doog shit.
Sirmon, Asa, and Cook (and my boy Irvin) have turned in the most disappointing performances thus far. A lot of flat-footed, pussy shit. -
Enough can’t be said about the impact Coach K has on the defense and on halftime adjustments.
The first-string defense has given up six points in the second half this season, which was the TD that Irvin gave up early in the 4th quarter against Arizona. He came in as a Dime back.
They have also allowed 21 points in the first half of two of their three games, which is a problem that needs to be fixed. But Kwat has completely locked down the 2nd half. -
I feel like the bigger problem for Asa is having confidence in reading the play and knowing how he should fill. A lot of the time he looks really tentative coming down into the box.
I think the tackling will be fine when his confidence improves and he has a better feel for the game, we know he has the capability to hit guys. -
On the GL play I felt like he was unwilling to leave the man he was covering like he had no clue where the line of scrimmage was.Neighbor2972 said:I feel like the bigger problem for Asa is having confidence in reading the play and knowing how he should fill. A lot of the time he looks really tentative coming down into the box.
I think the tackling will be fine when his confidence improves and he has a better feel for the game, we know he has the capability to hit guys. -
That is a good point and the proper counter-argument, I think. Looking at it again and I think you're right.dnc said:
On the GL play I felt like he was unwilling to leave the man he was covering like he had no clue where the line of scrimmage was.Neighbor2972 said:I feel like the bigger problem for Asa is having confidence in reading the play and knowing how he should fill. A lot of the time he looks really tentative coming down into the box.
I think the tackling will be fine when his confidence improves and he has a better feel for the game, we know he has the capability to hit guys. -
I mentioned this in another thread.Gladstone said:
That is a good point and the proper counter-argument, I think. Looking at it again and I think you're right.dnc said:
On the GL play I felt like he was unwilling to leave the man he was covering like he had no clue where the line of scrimmage was.Neighbor2972 said:I feel like the bigger problem for Asa is having confidence in reading the play and knowing how he should fill. A lot of the time he looks really tentative coming down into the box.
I think the tackling will be fine when his confidence improves and he has a better feel for the game, we know he has the capability to hit guys. -
Lacking game awareness isn’t exactly better news, just different bad.Gladstone said:
That is a good point and the proper counter-argument, I think. Looking at it again and I think you're right.dnc said:
On the GL play I felt like he was unwilling to leave the man he was covering like he had no clue where the line of scrimmage was.Neighbor2972 said:I feel like the bigger problem for Asa is having confidence in reading the play and knowing how he should fill. A lot of the time he looks really tentative coming down into the box.
I think the tackling will be fine when his confidence improves and he has a better feel for the game, we know he has the capability to hit guys.
