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Why Trump Might Become More Powerful Than Ever Outside the White House

DerekJohnson
DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,417 Founders Club
John C Dvorak (No Agenda Podcast)
Nov 24


Whether or not Trump wins this contested election, people on both sides of the aisle should prepare for Trump operating behind the scenes in a bid to re-take the White House in 2024. The model for this is Grover Cleveland, the one US president to win two non-consecutive terms.

The advantages for Trump are huge if he has to leave. First off, it tarnishes the election of Biden and boosts the Republican party as Trump, of all people, becomes a legitimate martyr.

Trump can then work behind the scenes to continue to promote what everyone calls “Trumpism”: a new kind of Republican who attracts a massive swath of the populace, many of whom were deserted by the Democrats who once represented the middle class and the working class with aplomb.

The Democrat party, it must be admitted, is in the hands of the big money interests. This includes Big Pharma (massive Obama supporters), big banks (massive Hillary supporters), and big tech (all behind Biden). And it has to be noted that the most vocal of the billionaire class came out for Biden: this includes Bill Gates and Warren Buffet, as well as Jack Dorsey and Mark Zuckerberg. With the exception of Larry Ellison, the tech sector was all-in for Joe Biden, led by the venture capital community.

These people all joined forces with the military-industrial complex as supposed Republican retired military folks, many of whom worked for Trump, had no issue coming out for Biden in a massive virtue-signaling effort. They did this to make sure they’d get on those tech company boards of directors and get a piece of the action.

Then in this mix of serious financial and military elites came the journalists from the mainstream media, the major metropolitan dailies (New York Times, Washington Post, Chicago Tribune, USA Today, etc.) and the top TV Networks (NBC, CBS, ABC, PBS). The outliers were Fox News (now coming around to liberal thinking) and various individual talk radio hosts (Limbaugh, Savage, Hannity, Levin). The bulk of the action is on the Democrat party side of the ledger and they all promote a party that now serves the interests of big money, paying lip service to the “workers” and unions.

Topping all that off are the degenerate Hollywood propagandists and complainers, many well-heeled, as well as the university system now designed not to educate but to make sure you become a Democrat voter above all else.

All these institutions combined with the intelligence agencies whose allegiances are dubious at best and it’s an actual miracle that Trump lasted four years and did what he did. If he succeeds in getting back into the White House, there will be another impeachment, fake media-driven scandals, and continued battling with Democrats and the media. Who needs the continued aggravation?

He’s pretty much done yeoman’s work for the four years he was in office, including the appointment of three Supreme Court Justices (a modern record for one term) and a slew of Federal judges. He also set a new agenda in the Middle East, brought plenty of attention to the southern border, and made trade with China a real issue that can no longer be ignored.

And Trump must be given credit for two major accomplishments that probably nobody else could have managed. He kept Hillary Clinton and Jeb Bush out of the White House. He should be a hero in anyone’s book for that alone.

If he decides to continue the fight, he can do it better outside the White House than inside dealing with the day-to-day along with complaining staffers all looking to write books for some easy money.

Trump would not be the lone ex-president to stay in the game; Teddy Roosevelt comes to mind as does the aforementioned Grover Cleveland. On the other hand, Eisenhower dropped out of sight, as did Truman before him, Nixon wrote books, Carter pounded nails in Central America, and the Bushes did... nothing.

Trump could stir things up, and also get a lot of attention and encouragement to do so by the same media that was making bank on Trump reporting. He could be bigger than ever and could become a king maker, promoting Republicans for various offices in 2022.

And his plans might coincide with the Republican plans to do well in 2022, probably taking back the House and increasing the numbers in the Senate. Biden could be impeached as a quid pro quo in 2023 whether thrown out of office or not.

The Republican Wet Dream/Hoped-for Outcome

The prophesied idealistic Republican plan is to get Harris to turn on him and join forces with his cabinet of Obama lackeys over the next two years and use the 25th amendment to oust him. Dementia, Parkinson’s, Alzheimer’s are all in play for this and the public has been softened up to accept the idea.

Then the country, irked by the fact that they were tricked into voting in brain-addled Biden and now they are stuck with the unliked Kamala Harris, would sweep in a carload of Republicans. From there, a Harris impeachment would ensue. In reality it could go a lot of different ways, but this is the Republican wet dream.

Trump was paying careful attention to the Republicans who failed to back him or who turned on him during the 2020 election and will target them all to be ousted and replaced by a Trumpian loyalist. Politics in the USA will be changed with a new Republican party turning on their former allies: the bankers and the military.

And if Trump decides to buy or start a conservative-leaning news network? Even more fun.
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,887 Founders Club
  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,417 Founders Club
    (This reads like a Race Bannon post.)
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,887 Founders Club
    edited November 2020
    Nope. GOP wet dreams are just that

    Suicide is easy and they just proved it
  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,417 Founders Club

    Nope. GOP wet dreams are just that

    Suicide is easy and they just proved it

    I'm not saying I think all that is going to happen, but it was an interesting read.
  • hardhat
    hardhat Member Posts: 8,344
    I'm also wondering what fun things Trump could do in his last two months.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,887 Founders Club
    The media will miss Trump more than anyone

    Because it's back to sleep as democracy dies in the basement at a 10am lid
  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,570 Standard Supporter
    If the dems can get away with blatant voter fraud this time, there won't be a next time. Trump won't have any power once out. The Republican establishment hated but feared him. Now they don't have to worry unless Trump wants to primary the republican leadership in 2022 and likely end up with dems elected in their place.
  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072

    The media will miss Trump more than anyone

    Because it's back to sleep as democracy dies in the basement at a 10am lid

    Cable news will be nothing but a never ending discussion of the upcoming Trump prosecution(s)
  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072

    If the dems can get away with blatant voter fraud this time, there won't be a next time. Trump won't have any power once out. The Republican establishment hated but feared him. Now they don't have to worry unless Trump wants to primary the republican leadership in 2022 and likely end up with dems elected in their place.

    Bingo.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,887 Founders Club
    Wait until trumptards write Trump in for the Georgia run off.......
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,898

    If the dems can get away with blatant voter fraud this time, there won't be a next time. Trump won't have any power once out. The Republican establishment hated but feared him. Now they don't have to worry unless Trump wants to primary the republican leadership in 2022 and likely end up with dems elected in their place.

    blatant = hidden? undetectable?

    Judges?
  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    Cute in Theory but most of the tim, election rules are heavily stacked against write in candidates.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,898
    Attention span of a gnat says Daddy can’t really accomplish anything out of office, unless he is confined to the prison library, of course.
  • Goduckies
    Goduckies Member Posts: 7,966 Standard Supporter

    Wait until trumptards write Trump in for the Georgia run off.......

    Let's hope not, that would give the dems the senate
  • NorthwestFresh
    NorthwestFresh Member Posts: 7,972
    edited November 2020
    doogie said:

    The media will miss Trump more than anyone

    Because it's back to sleep as democracy dies in the basement at a 10am lid

    Cable news will be nothing but a never ending discussion of the upcoming Trump prosecution(s)
    That’s my thought too. The state of New York is going to go after him, that’s a given, with the SDNY FBI assisting as well. There is no unification that is at all possible, especially with an election that was so obviously stolen in 4 large Dem-controlled cities.

    Biden was correct in that his voter fraud operation was the widest and most diverse in Democrat history.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,078
    HHusky said:

    Attention span of a gnat says Daddy can’t really accomplish anything out of office, unless he is confined to the prison library, of course.

    For what crime, Dazzler?

    Cite the US Criminal Code.

  • NorthwestFresh
    NorthwestFresh Member Posts: 7,972
    HHusky said:

    Attention span of a gnat says Daddy can’t really accomplish anything out of office, unless he is confined to the prison library, of course.

    I hear all he does is golf. Golf takes a lot of patience. Will you at least get your criticisms straight, Lionel?
  • Southerndawg
    Southerndawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,346 Founders Club

    John C Dvorak (No Agenda Podcast)
    Nov 24


    Whether or not Trump wins this contested election, people on both sides of the aisle should prepare for Trump operating behind the scenes in a bid to re-take the White House in 2024. The model for this is Grover Cleveland, the one US president to win two non-consecutive terms.

    The advantages for Trump are huge if he has to leave. First off, it tarnishes the election of Biden and boosts the Republican party as Trump, of all people, becomes a legitimate martyr.

    Trump can then work behind the scenes to continue to promote what everyone calls “Trumpism”: a new kind of Republican who attracts a massive swath of the populace, many of whom were deserted by the Democrats who once represented the middle class and the working class with aplomb.

    The Democrat party, it must be admitted, is in the hands of the big money interests. This includes Big Pharma (massive Obama supporters), big banks (massive Hillary supporters), and big tech (all behind Biden). And it has to be noted that the most vocal of the billionaire class came out for Biden: this includes Bill Gates and Warren Buffet, as well as Jack Dorsey and Mark Zuckerberg. With the exception of Larry Ellison, the tech sector was all-in for Joe Biden, led by the venture capital community.

    These people all joined forces with the military-industrial complex as supposed Republican retired military folks, many of whom worked for Trump, had no issue coming out for Biden in a massive virtue-signaling effort. They did this to make sure they’d get on those tech company boards of directors and get a piece of the action.

    Then in this mix of serious financial and military elites came the journalists from the mainstream media, the major metropolitan dailies (New York Times, Washington Post, Chicago Tribune, USA Today, etc.) and the top TV Networks (NBC, CBS, ABC, PBS). The outliers were Fox News (now coming around to liberal thinking) and various individual talk radio hosts (Limbaugh, Savage, Hannity, Levin). The bulk of the action is on the Democrat party side of the ledger and they all promote a party that now serves the interests of big money, paying lip service to the “workers” and unions.

    Topping all that off are the degenerate Hollywood propagandists and complainers, many well-heeled, as well as the university system now designed not to educate but to make sure you become a Democrat voter above all else.

    All these institutions combined with the intelligence agencies whose allegiances are dubious at best and it’s an actual miracle that Trump lasted four years and did what he did. If he succeeds in getting back into the White House, there will be another impeachment, fake media-driven scandals, and continued battling with Democrats and the media. Who needs the continued aggravation?

    He’s pretty much done yeoman’s work for the four years he was in office, including the appointment of three Supreme Court Justices (a modern record for one term) and a slew of Federal judges. He also set a new agenda in the Middle East, brought plenty of attention to the southern border, and made trade with China a real issue that can no longer be ignored.

    And Trump must be given credit for two major accomplishments that probably nobody else could have managed. He kept Hillary Clinton and Jeb Bush out of the White House. He should be a hero in anyone’s book for that alone.

    If he decides to continue the fight, he can do it better outside the White House than inside dealing with the day-to-day along with complaining staffers all looking to write books for some easy money.

    Trump would not be the lone ex-president to stay in the game; Teddy Roosevelt comes to mind as does the aforementioned Grover Cleveland. On the other hand, Eisenhower dropped out of sight, as did Truman before him, Nixon wrote books, Carter pounded nails in Central America, and the Bushes did... nothing.

    Trump could stir things up, and also get a lot of attention and encouragement to do so by the same media that was making bank on Trump reporting. He could be bigger than ever and could become a king maker, promoting Republicans for various offices in 2022.

    And his plans might coincide with the Republican plans to do well in 2022, probably taking back the House and increasing the numbers in the Senate. Biden could be impeached as a quid pro quo in 2023 whether thrown out of office or not.

    The Republican Wet Dream/Hoped-for Outcome

    The prophesied idealistic Republican plan is to get Harris to turn on him and join forces with his cabinet of Obama lackeys over the next two years and use the 25th amendment to oust him. Dementia, Parkinson’s, Alzheimer’s are all in play for this and the public has been softened up to accept the idea.

    Then the country, irked by the fact that they were tricked into voting in brain-addled Biden and now they are stuck with the unliked Kamala Harris, would sweep in a carload of Republicans. From there, a Harris impeachment would ensue. In reality it could go a lot of different ways, but this is the Republican wet dream.

    Trump was paying careful attention to the Republicans who failed to back him or who turned on him during the 2020 election and will target them all to be ousted and replaced by a Trumpian loyalist. Politics in the USA will be changed with a new Republican party turning on their former allies: the bankers and the military.

    And if Trump decides to buy or start a conservative-leaning news network? Even more fun.



    Agree.
  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    tuff to run for President from Prison
  • RoadTrip
    RoadTrip Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,147 Founders Club
    What's in it for the MSM? They're not getting on any of these BODs. They still make the same money whether a RAT or CON is in the WH. Why is the MSM so hell bent on globalism and being PRAVDA for the RATS?

    "Then in this mix of serious financial and military elites came the journalists from the mainstream media, the major metropolitan dailies (New York Times, Washington Post, Chicago Tribune, USA Today, etc.) and the top TV Networks (NBC, CBS, ABC, PBS). The outliers were Fox News (now coming around to liberal thinking) and various individual talk radio hosts (Limbaugh, Savage, Hannity, Levin). The bulk of the action is on the Democrat party side of the ledger and they all promote a party that now serves the interests of big money, paying lip service to the “workers” and unions."
  • Southerndawg
    Southerndawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,346 Founders Club

    Nope. GOP wet dreams are just that

    Suicide is easy and they just proved it

    I'm not saying I think all that is going to happen, but it was an interesting read.
    It is an interesting read and potentially an accurate take. Thanks for posting @DerekJohnson.
  • GreenRiverGatorz
    GreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,165
    RoadTrip said:

    What's in it for the MSM? They're not getting on any of these BODs. They still make the same money whether a RAT or CON is in the WH. Why is the MSM so hell bent on globalism and being PRAVDA for the RATS?

    "Then in this mix of serious financial and military elites came the journalists from the mainstream media, the major metropolitan dailies (New York Times, Washington Post, Chicago Tribune, USA Today, etc.) and the top TV Networks (NBC, CBS, ABC, PBS). The outliers were Fox News (now coming around to liberal thinking) and various individual talk radio hosts (Limbaugh, Savage, Hannity, Levin). The bulk of the action is on the Democrat party side of the ledger and they all promote a party that now serves the interests of big money, paying lip service to the “workers” and unions."

    You're thinking in terms that are way too conspiratorial when the answer is much simpler.

    Most folks who work for the big media outlets are cut from the same cloth - urban, highly educated, with upper middle class backgrounds. Believe it or not, their personal politics tend to actually favor globalization, not because they personally have anything to gain, but because they genuinely believe it's good policy.

    And that's where so much of the disconnect comes from. We're now multiple generations in to a "media class" that has increasingly grown up in elite urban circles, and they've become more and more unfamiliar with people who live in rural areas who don't have that same shared experience, and who personally suffered from that shifting global economy. It's not nefarious and it's not a money grab, they just simply don't know who these people in "other America" are, anymore than they know someone in rural India.
  • animate
    animate Member Posts: 4,245
    nah ... this is what's gonna happen.

    Trump will get prosecuted for a myriad of things ... he'll fly over to Russia and Putin will grant him citizenship and Trump will live his last days posting on Twitter from a luxury condo in Moscow ... book it.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,078
    animate said:

    nah ... this is what's gonna happen.

    Trump will get prosecuted for a myriad of things ... he'll fly over to Russia and Putin will grant him citizenship and Trump will live his last days posting on Twitter from a luxury condo in Moscow ... book it.

    Trump's not going to get prosecuted for anything.

    There's 70 million reasons why and even Crazy Joe knows it's not in his best interest to stoke their angst any time soon.


  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,887 Founders Club
    Putin literally endorsed Biden for president
  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072

    Putin literally endorsed Biden for president

    Fact Check: TRUE
  • animate
    animate Member Posts: 4,245

    Putin literally endorsed Biden for president

    putin is ahead of the curve ... he already backed trump years ago and everyone found out after the fact ... he's already moved on, he got what he wanted. Why was Trump deferring to Putin every chance he got?

    putin ain't KGB for nothin' ... c'mon you guys! He was trained for this ... and he lives for this and he made it all the way to top of Russian government, Russian history.

    He's playing Chess and you guys are still playing checkers.




    https://youtu.be/59RSLhdGWQM
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,887 Founders Club
    Hondo's retarded twin