Fucking beat Oregon
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He asked a good question. What other PAC 12 turd would you prefer they polish? They’re the defending champs. They suck off USC the very second they appear even remotely competent, but as is the way of Husky culture, not a word.Doog_de_Jour said:
Chris Petersen got a lot of FREE PUB back in the day...of course it was always because of the stuff he did at Boise, which annoyed me.dtd said:
tldr doog doesn't understand marketing. It would be stupid for networks to not promote the dumb blonde in the conference. WTF else are they going to try to sell, Chris Peterman? David Shaw? Clay Helton?1to392831weretaken said:
Here's what I want to know about Oregon/Cristobal:creepycoug said:
Mario had more to do than Jimmy. And Cristo is recruiting at a level never before seen at Oregon. Not even close.YellowSnow said:
Odds are @creepycoug he is not elite. Iron laws are iron laws. But if he wins the Pac in a shitty abortion of a season he might might be at least Mario good.creepycoug said:As for the game, I'd call it a UW lean based on what I've seen so far. Arizona looks bad, but then again, good teams ass rape bad teams. Right now, UW looks like the better team, which shouldn't shock too many people. Both teams lost some players, but based on memory alone Oregon lost more, including an entire position group. I
Oregon's D is not the same. I said losing Graham, who had really turned himself into a shut down corner and great tackler after being so bad as an underclassman, hurt. Losing Sewell at ILB will hurt. Still, there is a lot of talent on the roster, and so it depends on what they gain in the next two games and how they come out against UW.
Haven't seen enough of UW to be convinced they are a world beater yet. I've always said no fan gets more cocky in a shorter period of time based on less than a Husky. Christ when 70-21 happened it was like the prior 12 years, or whatever, had never occurred. Rightful place and USC respect and all that good stuff. Miami fans used to be a close second, but they've been fed a steady dose of reality now for the last many years. So there's that.
That all said, the idea that this is an "I told you so with Lake" is just amazing to me given recent history, even for doogs like BigErn. I assume when you? guys said let it play out, you didn't mean 2 games into this abortion of a season.
Jimmy is not elite. Lolz.
@backthepack
Jimmy inherited an intact program benefiting from years of very good recruiting.
Different situations.
Jimmy is LIPO. That’s all.
Is Phil Knight paying off the networks to promote them? They're conference champs until they're not, I get that, so I'm fine with the preseason rankings, etc., but I've never seen a season where I turn on so many games and see commentators randomly bringing up a team not involved in the game and talking about how great they are. Each time, the timing and delivery seemed unnatural and weird.
"So Dan, how about that fourth quarter performance by Colorado in the third quarter?"
"Well Tom, I thought so'n'so is really getting his reads down and bringing a new dimension to that offense. Take this 2nd and 3 play here for instance. Watch how he reads that end--which reminds me: isn't Oregon just better than both these teams? I mean, aren't they just awesome? The uniforms, the energy Cristobal's bringing to that program. Definitely the class of the PAC-12. Now to focus-grouped attractive female sideline reporter for more on the state of Oregon's offensive line..."
It's not that what they're saying is entirely wrong, it's that I've watched parts of four or five conference games now, and every single one had one of these moments that seemed awkward and forced. Like either Oregon is buying the narrative or there's just something naturally in it for either the broadcasters or conference or college football in general. If it's intentional, I think Cristobal's greatest accomplishment to date at Oregon is rebuilding their brand to the point it's like it hasn't skipped a beat since Mariota/Chipster. Clearly SOMEBODY powerful is interested in nationally promoting the narrative that Oregon is clearly better than anybody in the conference. Which, again, may have made sense at some point, but it's awkward to keep seeing it after struggles against WSU and UCLA. It's awkward at this point for such a strong opinion about ANY team in this fucked up conference.
Slingblade and meathead won Rose Bowels. This doesn't require explication.
Hur dur hur NIKE.
I agree with @1to392831weretaken about the unnatural way Oregon is brought up, but I don’t think it’s because of some weird Nike conspiracy...it’s just because the commentators they have doing PAC 12 games usually suck. -
When Habibbi Leakio runs right up your shit tube and you knew it was coming, at home, you kind of forfeit the right to conjecture your way to a moral victory.sonics1993 said:
Compare how they played against Oregon last year to Stanford. They were ready for that game and honestly thought that was there best game played. A dumb play call by Bush on third and three is what killed it along with a missed PI at the end of the game.Neighbor2972 said:
I was told this last year and am stupid enough to believe it againsonics1993 said:Players and Coaches are patiently waiting for that game. Have no doubt Washington will be ready for that game.
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I am basically throwing this year out. There's going to be regression back to mean when we get a normal season. Everybody looks good on offense right now.creepycoug said:
You may really be calling out UW a little early. They have looked good while breaking in a new QB. It’s early for everyone.lawsandl said:
The offense is more efficient this year without Herbert. I shutter to think what Moorehead would do with Herbert, last year's oline and Breeland.Edwin_Bambino said:
Mario got Herbert - who has shown in the NFL to be quite good, so while I mostly agree I’m not completely buying that narrativecreepycoug said:
Mario had more to do than Jimmy. And Cristo is recruiting at a level never before seen at Oregon. Not even close.YellowSnow said:
Odds are @creepycoug he is not elite. Iron laws are iron laws. But if he wins the Pac in a shitty abortion of a season he might might be at least Mario good.creepycoug said:As for the game, I'd call it a UW lean based on what I've seen so far. Arizona looks bad, but then again, good teams ass rape bad teams. Right now, UW looks like the better team, which shouldn't shock too many people. Both teams lost some players, but based on memory alone Oregon lost more, including an entire position group. I
Oregon's D is not the same. I said losing Graham, who had really turned himself into a shut down corner and great tackler after being so bad as an underclassman, hurt. Losing Sewell at ILB will hurt. Still, there is a lot of talent on the roster, and so it depends on what they gain in the next two games and how they come out against UW.
Haven't seen enough of UW to be convinced they are a world beater yet. I've always said no fan gets more cocky in a shorter period of time based on less than a Husky. Christ when 70-21 happened it was like the prior 12 years, or whatever, had never occurred. Rightful place and USC respect and all that good stuff. Miami fans used to be a close second, but they've been fed a steady dose of reality now for the last many years. So there's that.
That all said, the idea that this is an "I told you so with Lake" is just amazing to me given recent history, even for doogs like BigErn. I assume when you? guys said let it play out, you didn't mean 2 games into this abortion of a season.
Jimmy is not elite. Lolz.
@backthepack
Jimmy inherited an intact program benefiting from years of very good recruiting.
Different situations.
Jimmy is LIPO. That’s all.
These past two games are glossing over the fact that Lake hired John Donavon. He was a terrible hire. The past two games are fool's gold and not sure that Utah will expose that.
Donovan is only bad hire when it’s clear he’s a bad hire. Not clear yet.
I am going to trust the analytics and expect John Donovan to fall back to the mean until he doesn't. He just went against the two worst defenses in the league and he's not going to face a good defense this year.
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Jimmy has the boys playing hard. He’s a sure thing. Only thing to play out is a Rose Bowl before an off-season natty. We’re dooging.creepycoug said:
Mario had more to do than Jimmy. And Cristo is recruiting at a level never before seen at Oregon. Not even close.YellowSnow said:
Odds are @creepycoug he is not elite. Iron laws are iron laws. But if he wins the Pac in a shitty abortion of a season he might might be at least Mario good.creepycoug said:As for the game, I'd call it a UW lean based on what I've seen so far. Arizona looks bad, but then again, good teams ass rape bad teams. Right now, UW looks like the better team, which shouldn't shock too many people. Both teams lost some players, but based on memory alone Oregon lost more, including an entire position group. I
Oregon's D is not the same. I said losing Graham, who had really turned himself into a shut down corner and great tackler after being so bad as an underclassman, hurt. Losing Sewell at ILB will hurt. Still, there is a lot of talent on the roster, and so it depends on what they gain in the next two games and how they come out against UW.
Haven't seen enough of UW to be convinced they are a world beater yet. I've always said no fan gets more cocky in a shorter period of time based on less than a Husky. Christ when 70-21 happened it was like the prior 12 years, or whatever, had never occurred. Rightful place and USC respect and all that good stuff. Miami fans used to be a close second, but they've been fed a steady dose of reality now for the last many years. So there's that.
That all said, the idea that this is an "I told you so with Lake" is just amazing to me given recent history, even for doogs like BigErn. I assume when you? guys said let it play out, you didn't mean 2 games into this abortion of a season.
Jimmy is not elite. Lolz.
@backthepack
Jimmy inherited an intact program benefiting from years of very good recruiting.
Different situations.
Jimmy is LIPO. That’s all. -
dtd said:
tldr doog doesn't understand marketing. It would be stupid for networks to not promote the dumb blonde in the conference. WTF else are they doing to try to sell, Chris Peterman? David Shaw? Clay Helton?1to392831weretaken said:
Here's what I want to know about Oregon/Cristobal:creepycoug said:
Mario had more to do than Jimmy. And Cristo is recruiting at a level never before seen at Oregon. Not even close.YellowSnow said:
Odds are @creepycoug he is not elite. Iron laws are iron laws. But if he wins the Pac in a shitty abortion of a season he might might be at least Mario good.creepycoug said:As for the game, I'd call it a UW lean based on what I've seen so far. Arizona looks bad, but then again, good teams ass rape bad teams. Right now, UW looks like the better team, which shouldn't shock too many people. Both teams lost some players, but based on memory alone Oregon lost more, including an entire position group. I
Oregon's D is not the same. I said losing Graham, who had really turned himself into a shut down corner and great tackler after being so bad as an underclassman, hurt. Losing Sewell at ILB will hurt. Still, there is a lot of talent on the roster, and so it depends on what they gain in the next two games and how they come out against UW.
Haven't seen enough of UW to be convinced they are a world beater yet. I've always said no fan gets more cocky in a shorter period of time based on less than a Husky. Christ when 70-21 happened it was like the prior 12 years, or whatever, had never occurred. Rightful place and USC respect and all that good stuff. Miami fans used to be a close second, but they've been fed a steady dose of reality now for the last many years. So there's that.
That all said, the idea that this is an "I told you so with Lake" is just amazing to me given recent history, even for doogs like BigErn. I assume when you? guys said let it play out, you didn't mean 2 games into this abortion of a season.
Jimmy is not elite. Lolz.
@backthepack
Jimmy inherited an intact program benefiting from years of very good recruiting.
Different situations.
Jimmy is LIPO. That’s all.
Is Phil Knight paying off the networks to promote them? They're conference champs until they're not, I get that, so I'm fine with the preseason rankings, etc., but I've never seen a season where I turn on so many games and see commentators randomly bringing up a team not involved in the game and talking about how great they are. Each time, the timing and delivery seemed unnatural and weird.
"So Dan, how about that fourth quarter performance by Colorado in the third quarter?"
"Well Tom, I thought so'n'so is really getting his reads down and bringing a new dimension to that offense. Take this 2nd and 3 play here for instance. Watch how he reads that end--which reminds me: isn't Oregon just better than both these teams? I mean, aren't they just awesome? The uniforms, the energy Cristobal's bringing to that program. Definitely the class of the PAC-12. Now to focus-grouped attractive female sideline reporter for more on the state of Oregon's offensive line..."
It's not that what they're saying is entirely wrong, it's that I've watched parts of four or five conference games now, and every single one had one of these moments that seemed awkward and forced. Like either Oregon is buying the narrative or there's just something naturally in it for either the broadcasters or conference or college football in general. If it's intentional, I think Cristobal's greatest accomplishment to date at Oregon is rebuilding their brand to the point it's like it hasn't skipped a beat since Mariota/Chipster. Clearly SOMEBODY powerful is interested in nationally promoting the narrative that Oregon is clearly better than anybody in the conference. Which, again, may have made sense at some point, but it's awkward to keep seeing it after struggles against WSU and UCLA. It's awkward at this point for such a strong opinion about ANY team in this fucked up conference.
Oregon won 3 Rose Bowls in 10 years with 3 different coaches. UW lost a playoff game. Pete Carrol left USC 11? years ago. Billboards, Nike, Uniforms, winning most of the time in a shit conference. Oregon has won 14 of 15 conference games. Meathead from the ESS EEE SEE. Heisman Trophy. Dip Belly. You don't have to like it, but to say it's unnatural makes no sense. Oregon had coaches who went for 2 in the 1st quarter. Stanford has a coach who kicks for the tie on 2nd down with a minute left.Doog_de_Jour said:
Chris Petersen got a lot of FREE PUB back in the day...of course it was always because of the stuff he did at Boise, which annoyed me.dtd said:
tldr doog doesn't understand marketing. It would be stupid for networks to not promote the dumb blonde in the conference. WTF else are they going to try to sell, Chris Peterman? David Shaw? Clay Helton?1to392831weretaken said:
Here's what I want to know about Oregon/Cristobal:creepycoug said:
Mario had more to do than Jimmy. And Cristo is recruiting at a level never before seen at Oregon. Not even close.YellowSnow said:
Odds are @creepycoug he is not elite. Iron laws are iron laws. But if he wins the Pac in a shitty abortion of a season he might might be at least Mario good.creepycoug said:As for the game, I'd call it a UW lean based on what I've seen so far. Arizona looks bad, but then again, good teams ass rape bad teams. Right now, UW looks like the better team, which shouldn't shock too many people. Both teams lost some players, but based on memory alone Oregon lost more, including an entire position group. I
Oregon's D is not the same. I said losing Graham, who had really turned himself into a shut down corner and great tackler after being so bad as an underclassman, hurt. Losing Sewell at ILB will hurt. Still, there is a lot of talent on the roster, and so it depends on what they gain in the next two games and how they come out against UW.
Haven't seen enough of UW to be convinced they are a world beater yet. I've always said no fan gets more cocky in a shorter period of time based on less than a Husky. Christ when 70-21 happened it was like the prior 12 years, or whatever, had never occurred. Rightful place and USC respect and all that good stuff. Miami fans used to be a close second, but they've been fed a steady dose of reality now for the last many years. So there's that.
That all said, the idea that this is an "I told you so with Lake" is just amazing to me given recent history, even for doogs like BigErn. I assume when you? guys said let it play out, you didn't mean 2 games into this abortion of a season.
Jimmy is not elite. Lolz.
@backthepack
Jimmy inherited an intact program benefiting from years of very good recruiting.
Different situations.
Jimmy is LIPO. That’s all.
Is Phil Knight paying off the networks to promote them? They're conference champs until they're not, I get that, so I'm fine with the preseason rankings, etc., but I've never seen a season where I turn on so many games and see commentators randomly bringing up a team not involved in the game and talking about how great they are. Each time, the timing and delivery seemed unnatural and weird.
"So Dan, how about that fourth quarter performance by Colorado in the third quarter?"
"Well Tom, I thought so'n'so is really getting his reads down and bringing a new dimension to that offense. Take this 2nd and 3 play here for instance. Watch how he reads that end--which reminds me: isn't Oregon just better than both these teams? I mean, aren't they just awesome? The uniforms, the energy Cristobal's bringing to that program. Definitely the class of the PAC-12. Now to focus-grouped attractive female sideline reporter for more on the state of Oregon's offensive line..."
It's not that what they're saying is entirely wrong, it's that I've watched parts of four or five conference games now, and every single one had one of these moments that seemed awkward and forced. Like either Oregon is buying the narrative or there's just something naturally in it for either the broadcasters or conference or college football in general. If it's intentional, I think Cristobal's greatest accomplishment to date at Oregon is rebuilding their brand to the point it's like it hasn't skipped a beat since Mariota/Chipster. Clearly SOMEBODY powerful is interested in nationally promoting the narrative that Oregon is clearly better than anybody in the conference. Which, again, may have made sense at some point, but it's awkward to keep seeing it after struggles against WSU and UCLA. It's awkward at this point for such a strong opinion about ANY team in this fucked up conference.
Slingblade and meathead won Rose Bowels. This doesn't require explication.
Hur dur hur NIKE.
I agree with @1to392831weretaken about the unnatural way Oregon is brought up, but I don’t think it’s because of some weird Nike conspiracy...it’s just because the commentators they have doing PAC 12 games usually suck.
You're the son of an old railroad tycoon with an endowment who thinks he deserves it all and we? mined a bunch of bit coins between sleeping and playing WOW. Shocking that tik tok eyeballs care about one and not the other. I don't like it either. Pretending it's not what makes the world go round is head in the sand.
Tallest midget still tallest. -
Like I said, which p12 turd should they polish instead?dtd said:dtd said:
tldr doog doesn't understand marketing. It would be stupid for networks to not promote the dumb blonde in the conference. WTF else are they doing to try to sell, Chris Peterman? David Shaw? Clay Helton?1to392831weretaken said:
Here's what I want to know about Oregon/Cristobal:creepycoug said:
Mario had more to do than Jimmy. And Cristo is recruiting at a level never before seen at Oregon. Not even close.YellowSnow said:
Odds are @creepycoug he is not elite. Iron laws are iron laws. But if he wins the Pac in a shitty abortion of a season he might might be at least Mario good.creepycoug said:As for the game, I'd call it a UW lean based on what I've seen so far. Arizona looks bad, but then again, good teams ass rape bad teams. Right now, UW looks like the better team, which shouldn't shock too many people. Both teams lost some players, but based on memory alone Oregon lost more, including an entire position group. I
Oregon's D is not the same. I said losing Graham, who had really turned himself into a shut down corner and great tackler after being so bad as an underclassman, hurt. Losing Sewell at ILB will hurt. Still, there is a lot of talent on the roster, and so it depends on what they gain in the next two games and how they come out against UW.
Haven't seen enough of UW to be convinced they are a world beater yet. I've always said no fan gets more cocky in a shorter period of time based on less than a Husky. Christ when 70-21 happened it was like the prior 12 years, or whatever, had never occurred. Rightful place and USC respect and all that good stuff. Miami fans used to be a close second, but they've been fed a steady dose of reality now for the last many years. So there's that.
That all said, the idea that this is an "I told you so with Lake" is just amazing to me given recent history, even for doogs like BigErn. I assume when you? guys said let it play out, you didn't mean 2 games into this abortion of a season.
Jimmy is not elite. Lolz.
@backthepack
Jimmy inherited an intact program benefiting from years of very good recruiting.
Different situations.
Jimmy is LIPO. That’s all.
Is Phil Knight paying off the networks to promote them? They're conference champs until they're not, I get that, so I'm fine with the preseason rankings, etc., but I've never seen a season where I turn on so many games and see commentators randomly bringing up a team not involved in the game and talking about how great they are. Each time, the timing and delivery seemed unnatural and weird.
"So Dan, how about that fourth quarter performance by Colorado in the third quarter?"
"Well Tom, I thought so'n'so is really getting his reads down and bringing a new dimension to that offense. Take this 2nd and 3 play here for instance. Watch how he reads that end--which reminds me: isn't Oregon just better than both these teams? I mean, aren't they just awesome? The uniforms, the energy Cristobal's bringing to that program. Definitely the class of the PAC-12. Now to focus-grouped attractive female sideline reporter for more on the state of Oregon's offensive line..."
It's not that what they're saying is entirely wrong, it's that I've watched parts of four or five conference games now, and every single one had one of these moments that seemed awkward and forced. Like either Oregon is buying the narrative or there's just something naturally in it for either the broadcasters or conference or college football in general. If it's intentional, I think Cristobal's greatest accomplishment to date at Oregon is rebuilding their brand to the point it's like it hasn't skipped a beat since Mariota/Chipster. Clearly SOMEBODY powerful is interested in nationally promoting the narrative that Oregon is clearly better than anybody in the conference. Which, again, may have made sense at some point, but it's awkward to keep seeing it after struggles against WSU and UCLA. It's awkward at this point for such a strong opinion about ANY team in this fucked up conference.
Oregon won 3 Rose Bowls in 10 years with 3 different coaches. UW lost a playoff game. Pete Carrol left USC 11? years ago. Billboards, Nike, Uniforms, winning most of the time in a shit conference. Oregon has won 14 of 15 conference games. Meathead from the ESS EEE SEE. You don't have to like it, but to say it's unnatural makes no sense. Oregon had coaches who went for 2 in the 1st quarter. Stanford has a coach who kicks for the tie on 2nd down with a minute left.Doog_de_Jour said:
Chris Petersen got a lot of FREE PUB back in the day...of course it was always because of the stuff he did at Boise, which annoyed me.dtd said:
tldr doog doesn't understand marketing. It would be stupid for networks to not promote the dumb blonde in the conference. WTF else are they going to try to sell, Chris Peterman? David Shaw? Clay Helton?1to392831weretaken said:
Here's what I want to know about Oregon/Cristobal:creepycoug said:
Mario had more to do than Jimmy. And Cristo is recruiting at a level never before seen at Oregon. Not even close.YellowSnow said:
Odds are @creepycoug he is not elite. Iron laws are iron laws. But if he wins the Pac in a shitty abortion of a season he might might be at least Mario good.creepycoug said:As for the game, I'd call it a UW lean based on what I've seen so far. Arizona looks bad, but then again, good teams ass rape bad teams. Right now, UW looks like the better team, which shouldn't shock too many people. Both teams lost some players, but based on memory alone Oregon lost more, including an entire position group. I
Oregon's D is not the same. I said losing Graham, who had really turned himself into a shut down corner and great tackler after being so bad as an underclassman, hurt. Losing Sewell at ILB will hurt. Still, there is a lot of talent on the roster, and so it depends on what they gain in the next two games and how they come out against UW.
Haven't seen enough of UW to be convinced they are a world beater yet. I've always said no fan gets more cocky in a shorter period of time based on less than a Husky. Christ when 70-21 happened it was like the prior 12 years, or whatever, had never occurred. Rightful place and USC respect and all that good stuff. Miami fans used to be a close second, but they've been fed a steady dose of reality now for the last many years. So there's that.
That all said, the idea that this is an "I told you so with Lake" is just amazing to me given recent history, even for doogs like BigErn. I assume when you? guys said let it play out, you didn't mean 2 games into this abortion of a season.
Jimmy is not elite. Lolz.
@backthepack
Jimmy inherited an intact program benefiting from years of very good recruiting.
Different situations.
Jimmy is LIPO. That’s all.
Is Phil Knight paying off the networks to promote them? They're conference champs until they're not, I get that, so I'm fine with the preseason rankings, etc., but I've never seen a season where I turn on so many games and see commentators randomly bringing up a team not involved in the game and talking about how great they are. Each time, the timing and delivery seemed unnatural and weird.
"So Dan, how about that fourth quarter performance by Colorado in the third quarter?"
"Well Tom, I thought so'n'so is really getting his reads down and bringing a new dimension to that offense. Take this 2nd and 3 play here for instance. Watch how he reads that end--which reminds me: isn't Oregon just better than both these teams? I mean, aren't they just awesome? The uniforms, the energy Cristobal's bringing to that program. Definitely the class of the PAC-12. Now to focus-grouped attractive female sideline reporter for more on the state of Oregon's offensive line..."
It's not that what they're saying is entirely wrong, it's that I've watched parts of four or five conference games now, and every single one had one of these moments that seemed awkward and forced. Like either Oregon is buying the narrative or there's just something naturally in it for either the broadcasters or conference or college football in general. If it's intentional, I think Cristobal's greatest accomplishment to date at Oregon is rebuilding their brand to the point it's like it hasn't skipped a beat since Mariota/Chipster. Clearly SOMEBODY powerful is interested in nationally promoting the narrative that Oregon is clearly better than anybody in the conference. Which, again, may have made sense at some point, but it's awkward to keep seeing it after struggles against WSU and UCLA. It's awkward at this point for such a strong opinion about ANY team in this fucked up conference.
Slingblade and meathead won Rose Bowels. This doesn't require explication.
Hur dur hur NIKE.
I agree with @1to392831weretaken about the unnatural way Oregon is brought up, but I don’t think it’s because of some weird Nike conspiracy...it’s just because the commentators they have doing PAC 12 games usually suck.
You're an old railroad tycoon rich guy and we? mined a bunch of bit coins between sleeping and playing WOW. Shocking that tik tok eyeballs care about one and not the other. -
Maybe they send Indiana too? You can claim victory over the Indiana schools in the Rose Bowl.RoadDawg55 said:
Jimmy has the boys playing hard. He’s a sure thing. Only thing to play out is a Rose Bowl before an off-season natty. We’re dooging.creepycoug said:
Mario had more to do than Jimmy. And Cristo is recruiting at a level never before seen at Oregon. Not even close.YellowSnow said:
Odds are @creepycoug he is not elite. Iron laws are iron laws. But if he wins the Pac in a shitty abortion of a season he might might be at least Mario good.creepycoug said:As for the game, I'd call it a UW lean based on what I've seen so far. Arizona looks bad, but then again, good teams ass rape bad teams. Right now, UW looks like the better team, which shouldn't shock too many people. Both teams lost some players, but based on memory alone Oregon lost more, including an entire position group. I
Oregon's D is not the same. I said losing Graham, who had really turned himself into a shut down corner and great tackler after being so bad as an underclassman, hurt. Losing Sewell at ILB will hurt. Still, there is a lot of talent on the roster, and so it depends on what they gain in the next two games and how they come out against UW.
Haven't seen enough of UW to be convinced they are a world beater yet. I've always said no fan gets more cocky in a shorter period of time based on less than a Husky. Christ when 70-21 happened it was like the prior 12 years, or whatever, had never occurred. Rightful place and USC respect and all that good stuff. Miami fans used to be a close second, but they've been fed a steady dose of reality now for the last many years. So there's that.
That all said, the idea that this is an "I told you so with Lake" is just amazing to me given recent history, even for doogs like BigErn. I assume when you? guys said let it play out, you didn't mean 2 games into this abortion of a season.
Jimmy is not elite. Lolz.
@backthepack
Jimmy inherited an intact program benefiting from years of very good recruiting.
Different situations.
Jimmy is LIPO. That’s all.
We can argue about which is better - 2nd place Wisconsin teams or the Indiana schools. -
Don't quote me while I'm still drunkenly editing my poast seven times! These are MY fifteen minutes.creepycoug said:
Like I said, which p12 turd should they polish instead?dtd said:dtd said:
tldr doog doesn't understand marketing. It would be stupid for networks to not promote the dumb blonde in the conference. WTF else are they doing to try to sell, Chris Peterman? David Shaw? Clay Helton?1to392831weretaken said:
Here's what I want to know about Oregon/Cristobal:creepycoug said:
Mario had more to do than Jimmy. And Cristo is recruiting at a level never before seen at Oregon. Not even close.YellowSnow said:
Odds are @creepycoug he is not elite. Iron laws are iron laws. But if he wins the Pac in a shitty abortion of a season he might might be at least Mario good.creepycoug said:As for the game, I'd call it a UW lean based on what I've seen so far. Arizona looks bad, but then again, good teams ass rape bad teams. Right now, UW looks like the better team, which shouldn't shock too many people. Both teams lost some players, but based on memory alone Oregon lost more, including an entire position group. I
Oregon's D is not the same. I said losing Graham, who had really turned himself into a shut down corner and great tackler after being so bad as an underclassman, hurt. Losing Sewell at ILB will hurt. Still, there is a lot of talent on the roster, and so it depends on what they gain in the next two games and how they come out against UW.
Haven't seen enough of UW to be convinced they are a world beater yet. I've always said no fan gets more cocky in a shorter period of time based on less than a Husky. Christ when 70-21 happened it was like the prior 12 years, or whatever, had never occurred. Rightful place and USC respect and all that good stuff. Miami fans used to be a close second, but they've been fed a steady dose of reality now for the last many years. So there's that.
That all said, the idea that this is an "I told you so with Lake" is just amazing to me given recent history, even for doogs like BigErn. I assume when you? guys said let it play out, you didn't mean 2 games into this abortion of a season.
Jimmy is not elite. Lolz.
@backthepack
Jimmy inherited an intact program benefiting from years of very good recruiting.
Different situations.
Jimmy is LIPO. That’s all.
Is Phil Knight paying off the networks to promote them? They're conference champs until they're not, I get that, so I'm fine with the preseason rankings, etc., but I've never seen a season where I turn on so many games and see commentators randomly bringing up a team not involved in the game and talking about how great they are. Each time, the timing and delivery seemed unnatural and weird.
"So Dan, how about that fourth quarter performance by Colorado in the third quarter?"
"Well Tom, I thought so'n'so is really getting his reads down and bringing a new dimension to that offense. Take this 2nd and 3 play here for instance. Watch how he reads that end--which reminds me: isn't Oregon just better than both these teams? I mean, aren't they just awesome? The uniforms, the energy Cristobal's bringing to that program. Definitely the class of the PAC-12. Now to focus-grouped attractive female sideline reporter for more on the state of Oregon's offensive line..."
It's not that what they're saying is entirely wrong, it's that I've watched parts of four or five conference games now, and every single one had one of these moments that seemed awkward and forced. Like either Oregon is buying the narrative or there's just something naturally in it for either the broadcasters or conference or college football in general. If it's intentional, I think Cristobal's greatest accomplishment to date at Oregon is rebuilding their brand to the point it's like it hasn't skipped a beat since Mariota/Chipster. Clearly SOMEBODY powerful is interested in nationally promoting the narrative that Oregon is clearly better than anybody in the conference. Which, again, may have made sense at some point, but it's awkward to keep seeing it after struggles against WSU and UCLA. It's awkward at this point for such a strong opinion about ANY team in this fucked up conference.
Oregon won 3 Rose Bowls in 10 years with 3 different coaches. UW lost a playoff game. Pete Carrol left USC 11? years ago. Billboards, Nike, Uniforms, winning most of the time in a shit conference. Oregon has won 14 of 15 conference games. Meathead from the ESS EEE SEE. You don't have to like it, but to say it's unnatural makes no sense. Oregon had coaches who went for 2 in the 1st quarter. Stanford has a coach who kicks for the tie on 2nd down with a minute left.Doog_de_Jour said:
Chris Petersen got a lot of FREE PUB back in the day...of course it was always because of the stuff he did at Boise, which annoyed me.dtd said:
tldr doog doesn't understand marketing. It would be stupid for networks to not promote the dumb blonde in the conference. WTF else are they going to try to sell, Chris Peterman? David Shaw? Clay Helton?1to392831weretaken said:
Here's what I want to know about Oregon/Cristobal:creepycoug said:
Mario had more to do than Jimmy. And Cristo is recruiting at a level never before seen at Oregon. Not even close.YellowSnow said:
Odds are @creepycoug he is not elite. Iron laws are iron laws. But if he wins the Pac in a shitty abortion of a season he might might be at least Mario good.creepycoug said:As for the game, I'd call it a UW lean based on what I've seen so far. Arizona looks bad, but then again, good teams ass rape bad teams. Right now, UW looks like the better team, which shouldn't shock too many people. Both teams lost some players, but based on memory alone Oregon lost more, including an entire position group. I
Oregon's D is not the same. I said losing Graham, who had really turned himself into a shut down corner and great tackler after being so bad as an underclassman, hurt. Losing Sewell at ILB will hurt. Still, there is a lot of talent on the roster, and so it depends on what they gain in the next two games and how they come out against UW.
Haven't seen enough of UW to be convinced they are a world beater yet. I've always said no fan gets more cocky in a shorter period of time based on less than a Husky. Christ when 70-21 happened it was like the prior 12 years, or whatever, had never occurred. Rightful place and USC respect and all that good stuff. Miami fans used to be a close second, but they've been fed a steady dose of reality now for the last many years. So there's that.
That all said, the idea that this is an "I told you so with Lake" is just amazing to me given recent history, even for doogs like BigErn. I assume when you? guys said let it play out, you didn't mean 2 games into this abortion of a season.
Jimmy is not elite. Lolz.
@backthepack
Jimmy inherited an intact program benefiting from years of very good recruiting.
Different situations.
Jimmy is LIPO. That’s all.
Is Phil Knight paying off the networks to promote them? They're conference champs until they're not, I get that, so I'm fine with the preseason rankings, etc., but I've never seen a season where I turn on so many games and see commentators randomly bringing up a team not involved in the game and talking about how great they are. Each time, the timing and delivery seemed unnatural and weird.
"So Dan, how about that fourth quarter performance by Colorado in the third quarter?"
"Well Tom, I thought so'n'so is really getting his reads down and bringing a new dimension to that offense. Take this 2nd and 3 play here for instance. Watch how he reads that end--which reminds me: isn't Oregon just better than both these teams? I mean, aren't they just awesome? The uniforms, the energy Cristobal's bringing to that program. Definitely the class of the PAC-12. Now to focus-grouped attractive female sideline reporter for more on the state of Oregon's offensive line..."
It's not that what they're saying is entirely wrong, it's that I've watched parts of four or five conference games now, and every single one had one of these moments that seemed awkward and forced. Like either Oregon is buying the narrative or there's just something naturally in it for either the broadcasters or conference or college football in general. If it's intentional, I think Cristobal's greatest accomplishment to date at Oregon is rebuilding their brand to the point it's like it hasn't skipped a beat since Mariota/Chipster. Clearly SOMEBODY powerful is interested in nationally promoting the narrative that Oregon is clearly better than anybody in the conference. Which, again, may have made sense at some point, but it's awkward to keep seeing it after struggles against WSU and UCLA. It's awkward at this point for such a strong opinion about ANY team in this fucked up conference.
Slingblade and meathead won Rose Bowels. This doesn't require explication.
Hur dur hur NIKE.
I agree with @1to392831weretaken about the unnatural way Oregon is brought up, but I don’t think it’s because of some weird Nike conspiracy...it’s just because the commentators they have doing PAC 12 games usually suck.
You're an old railroad tycoon rich guy and we? mined a bunch of bit coins between sleeping and playing WOW. Shocking that tik tok eyeballs care about one and not the other. -
Shough has the most turnover worthy plays of any QB in the conference but doesn’t have a lot of turnovers, it’ll regress back to the mean and he’ll lose you a game.lawsandl said:
The offense is more efficient this year without Herbert. I shutter to think what Moorehead would do with Herbert, last year's oline and Breeland.Edwin_Bambino said:
Mario got Herbert - who has shown in the NFL to be quite good, so while I mostly agree I’m not completely buying that narrativecreepycoug said:
Mario had more to do than Jimmy. And Cristo is recruiting at a level never before seen at Oregon. Not even close.YellowSnow said:
Odds are @creepycoug he is not elite. Iron laws are iron laws. But if he wins the Pac in a shitty abortion of a season he might might be at least Mario good.creepycoug said:As for the game, I'd call it a UW lean based on what I've seen so far. Arizona looks bad, but then again, good teams ass rape bad teams. Right now, UW looks like the better team, which shouldn't shock too many people. Both teams lost some players, but based on memory alone Oregon lost more, including an entire position group. I
Oregon's D is not the same. I said losing Graham, who had really turned himself into a shut down corner and great tackler after being so bad as an underclassman, hurt. Losing Sewell at ILB will hurt. Still, there is a lot of talent on the roster, and so it depends on what they gain in the next two games and how they come out against UW.
Haven't seen enough of UW to be convinced they are a world beater yet. I've always said no fan gets more cocky in a shorter period of time based on less than a Husky. Christ when 70-21 happened it was like the prior 12 years, or whatever, had never occurred. Rightful place and USC respect and all that good stuff. Miami fans used to be a close second, but they've been fed a steady dose of reality now for the last many years. So there's that.
That all said, the idea that this is an "I told you so with Lake" is just amazing to me given recent history, even for doogs like BigErn. I assume when you? guys said let it play out, you didn't mean 2 games into this abortion of a season.
Jimmy is not elite. Lolz.
@backthepack
Jimmy inherited an intact program benefiting from years of very good recruiting.
Different situations.
Jimmy is LIPO. That’s all.
These past two games are glossing over the fact that Lake hired John Donavon. He was a terrible hire. The past two games are fool's gold and not sure that Utah will expose that. -
Stats? PFF I assume? Couldn't just be BTP bullshit.backthepack said:
Shough has the most turnover worthy plays of any QB in the conference but doesn’t have a lot of turnovers, it’ll regress back to the mean and he’ll lose you a game.lawsandl said:
The offense is more efficient this year without Herbert. I shutter to think what Moorehead would do with Herbert, last year's oline and Breeland.Edwin_Bambino said:
Mario got Herbert - who has shown in the NFL to be quite good, so while I mostly agree I’m not completely buying that narrativecreepycoug said:
Mario had more to do than Jimmy. And Cristo is recruiting at a level never before seen at Oregon. Not even close.YellowSnow said:
Odds are @creepycoug he is not elite. Iron laws are iron laws. But if he wins the Pac in a shitty abortion of a season he might might be at least Mario good.creepycoug said:As for the game, I'd call it a UW lean based on what I've seen so far. Arizona looks bad, but then again, good teams ass rape bad teams. Right now, UW looks like the better team, which shouldn't shock too many people. Both teams lost some players, but based on memory alone Oregon lost more, including an entire position group. I
Oregon's D is not the same. I said losing Graham, who had really turned himself into a shut down corner and great tackler after being so bad as an underclassman, hurt. Losing Sewell at ILB will hurt. Still, there is a lot of talent on the roster, and so it depends on what they gain in the next two games and how they come out against UW.
Haven't seen enough of UW to be convinced they are a world beater yet. I've always said no fan gets more cocky in a shorter period of time based on less than a Husky. Christ when 70-21 happened it was like the prior 12 years, or whatever, had never occurred. Rightful place and USC respect and all that good stuff. Miami fans used to be a close second, but they've been fed a steady dose of reality now for the last many years. So there's that.
That all said, the idea that this is an "I told you so with Lake" is just amazing to me given recent history, even for doogs like BigErn. I assume when you? guys said let it play out, you didn't mean 2 games into this abortion of a season.
Jimmy is not elite. Lolz.
@backthepack
Jimmy inherited an intact program benefiting from years of very good recruiting.
Different situations.
Jimmy is LIPO. That’s all.
These past two games are glossing over the fact that Lake hired John Donavon. He was a terrible hire. The past two games are fool's gold and not sure that Utah will expose that.
If Shough throws a couple INTs and they lose, it will still be because of the defense. -
There's a lot more data on John Donavon than Shough. More often than not, if you're a below average coordinator, you stay a below average coordinator. Baseline talent will change the results.backthepack said:
Shough has the most turnover worthy plays of any QB in the conference but doesn’t have a lot of turnovers, it’ll regress back to the mean and he’ll lose you a game.lawsandl said:
The offense is more efficient this year without Herbert. I shutter to think what Moorehead would do with Herbert, last year's oline and Breeland.Edwin_Bambino said:
Mario got Herbert - who has shown in the NFL to be quite good, so while I mostly agree I’m not completely buying that narrativecreepycoug said:
Mario had more to do than Jimmy. And Cristo is recruiting at a level never before seen at Oregon. Not even close.YellowSnow said:
Odds are @creepycoug he is not elite. Iron laws are iron laws. But if he wins the Pac in a shitty abortion of a season he might might be at least Mario good.creepycoug said:As for the game, I'd call it a UW lean based on what I've seen so far. Arizona looks bad, but then again, good teams ass rape bad teams. Right now, UW looks like the better team, which shouldn't shock too many people. Both teams lost some players, but based on memory alone Oregon lost more, including an entire position group. I
Oregon's D is not the same. I said losing Graham, who had really turned himself into a shut down corner and great tackler after being so bad as an underclassman, hurt. Losing Sewell at ILB will hurt. Still, there is a lot of talent on the roster, and so it depends on what they gain in the next two games and how they come out against UW.
Haven't seen enough of UW to be convinced they are a world beater yet. I've always said no fan gets more cocky in a shorter period of time based on less than a Husky. Christ when 70-21 happened it was like the prior 12 years, or whatever, had never occurred. Rightful place and USC respect and all that good stuff. Miami fans used to be a close second, but they've been fed a steady dose of reality now for the last many years. So there's that.
That all said, the idea that this is an "I told you so with Lake" is just amazing to me given recent history, even for doogs like BigErn. I assume when you? guys said let it play out, you didn't mean 2 games into this abortion of a season.
Jimmy is not elite. Lolz.
@backthepack
Jimmy inherited an intact program benefiting from years of very good recruiting.
Different situations.
Jimmy is LIPO. That’s all.
These past two games are glossing over the fact that Lake hired John Donavon. He was a terrible hire. The past two games are fool's gold and not sure that Utah will expose that. -
PFF, it’s why his raw numbers look good by PFF has him as QB6 in the PAC-12.dtd said:
Stats? PFF I assume? Couldn't just be BTP bullshit.backthepack said:
Shough has the most turnover worthy plays of any QB in the conference but doesn’t have a lot of turnovers, it’ll regress back to the mean and he’ll lose you a game.lawsandl said:
The offense is more efficient this year without Herbert. I shutter to think what Moorehead would do with Herbert, last year's oline and Breeland.Edwin_Bambino said:
Mario got Herbert - who has shown in the NFL to be quite good, so while I mostly agree I’m not completely buying that narrativecreepycoug said:
Mario had more to do than Jimmy. And Cristo is recruiting at a level never before seen at Oregon. Not even close.YellowSnow said:
Odds are @creepycoug he is not elite. Iron laws are iron laws. But if he wins the Pac in a shitty abortion of a season he might might be at least Mario good.creepycoug said:As for the game, I'd call it a UW lean based on what I've seen so far. Arizona looks bad, but then again, good teams ass rape bad teams. Right now, UW looks like the better team, which shouldn't shock too many people. Both teams lost some players, but based on memory alone Oregon lost more, including an entire position group. I
Oregon's D is not the same. I said losing Graham, who had really turned himself into a shut down corner and great tackler after being so bad as an underclassman, hurt. Losing Sewell at ILB will hurt. Still, there is a lot of talent on the roster, and so it depends on what they gain in the next two games and how they come out against UW.
Haven't seen enough of UW to be convinced they are a world beater yet. I've always said no fan gets more cocky in a shorter period of time based on less than a Husky. Christ when 70-21 happened it was like the prior 12 years, or whatever, had never occurred. Rightful place and USC respect and all that good stuff. Miami fans used to be a close second, but they've been fed a steady dose of reality now for the last many years. So there's that.
That all said, the idea that this is an "I told you so with Lake" is just amazing to me given recent history, even for doogs like BigErn. I assume when you? guys said let it play out, you didn't mean 2 games into this abortion of a season.
Jimmy is not elite. Lolz.
@backthepack
Jimmy inherited an intact program benefiting from years of very good recruiting.
Different situations.
Jimmy is LIPO. That’s all.
These past two games are glossing over the fact that Lake hired John Donavon. He was a terrible hire. The past two games are fool's gold and not sure that Utah will expose that.
If Shough throws a couple INTs and they lose, it will still be because of the defense. -
Lolz. A fine analysis. Turnover worthy? New copy pasta.backthepack said:
Shough has the most turnover worthy plays of any QB in the conference but doesn’t have a lot of turnovers, it’ll regress back to the mean and he’ll lose you a game.lawsandl said:
The offense is more efficient this year without Herbert. I shutter to think what Moorehead would do with Herbert, last year's oline and Breeland.Edwin_Bambino said:
Mario got Herbert - who has shown in the NFL to be quite good, so while I mostly agree I’m not completely buying that narrativecreepycoug said:
Mario had more to do than Jimmy. And Cristo is recruiting at a level never before seen at Oregon. Not even close.YellowSnow said:
Odds are @creepycoug he is not elite. Iron laws are iron laws. But if he wins the Pac in a shitty abortion of a season he might might be at least Mario good.creepycoug said:As for the game, I'd call it a UW lean based on what I've seen so far. Arizona looks bad, but then again, good teams ass rape bad teams. Right now, UW looks like the better team, which shouldn't shock too many people. Both teams lost some players, but based on memory alone Oregon lost more, including an entire position group. I
Oregon's D is not the same. I said losing Graham, who had really turned himself into a shut down corner and great tackler after being so bad as an underclassman, hurt. Losing Sewell at ILB will hurt. Still, there is a lot of talent on the roster, and so it depends on what they gain in the next two games and how they come out against UW.
Haven't seen enough of UW to be convinced they are a world beater yet. I've always said no fan gets more cocky in a shorter period of time based on less than a Husky. Christ when 70-21 happened it was like the prior 12 years, or whatever, had never occurred. Rightful place and USC respect and all that good stuff. Miami fans used to be a close second, but they've been fed a steady dose of reality now for the last many years. So there's that.
That all said, the idea that this is an "I told you so with Lake" is just amazing to me given recent history, even for doogs like BigErn. I assume when you? guys said let it play out, you didn't mean 2 games into this abortion of a season.
Jimmy is not elite. Lolz.
@backthepack
Jimmy inherited an intact program benefiting from years of very good recruiting.
Different situations.
Jimmy is LIPO. That’s all.
These past two games are glossing over the fact that Lake hired John Donavon. He was a terrible hire. The past two games are fool's gold and not sure that Utah will expose that.
What’s the term for a turnover that isn’t a turnover? -
Ok. He’s using modern passing concepts, using heavy PA, and creating mismatches via formation. He’s doing everything right to stretch and stress a defense. He’s good so far. People can learn and adapt. Besides Franklin never gave Donovan full autonomy over his offense.lawsandl said:
There's a lot more data on John Donavon than Shough. More often than not, if you're a below average coordinator, you stay a below average coordinator. Baseline talent will change the results.backthepack said:
Shough has the most turnover worthy plays of any QB in the conference but doesn’t have a lot of turnovers, it’ll regress back to the mean and he’ll lose you a game.lawsandl said:
The offense is more efficient this year without Herbert. I shutter to think what Moorehead would do with Herbert, last year's oline and Breeland.Edwin_Bambino said:
Mario got Herbert - who has shown in the NFL to be quite good, so while I mostly agree I’m not completely buying that narrativecreepycoug said:
Mario had more to do than Jimmy. And Cristo is recruiting at a level never before seen at Oregon. Not even close.YellowSnow said:
Odds are @creepycoug he is not elite. Iron laws are iron laws. But if he wins the Pac in a shitty abortion of a season he might might be at least Mario good.creepycoug said:As for the game, I'd call it a UW lean based on what I've seen so far. Arizona looks bad, but then again, good teams ass rape bad teams. Right now, UW looks like the better team, which shouldn't shock too many people. Both teams lost some players, but based on memory alone Oregon lost more, including an entire position group. I
Oregon's D is not the same. I said losing Graham, who had really turned himself into a shut down corner and great tackler after being so bad as an underclassman, hurt. Losing Sewell at ILB will hurt. Still, there is a lot of talent on the roster, and so it depends on what they gain in the next two games and how they come out against UW.
Haven't seen enough of UW to be convinced they are a world beater yet. I've always said no fan gets more cocky in a shorter period of time based on less than a Husky. Christ when 70-21 happened it was like the prior 12 years, or whatever, had never occurred. Rightful place and USC respect and all that good stuff. Miami fans used to be a close second, but they've been fed a steady dose of reality now for the last many years. So there's that.
That all said, the idea that this is an "I told you so with Lake" is just amazing to me given recent history, even for doogs like BigErn. I assume when you? guys said let it play out, you didn't mean 2 games into this abortion of a season.
Jimmy is not elite. Lolz.
@backthepack
Jimmy inherited an intact program benefiting from years of very good recruiting.
Different situations.
Jimmy is LIPO. That’s all.
These past two games are glossing over the fact that Lake hired John Donavon. He was a terrible hire. The past two games are fool's gold and not sure that Utah will expose that. -
Shough made a lot better decisions in the UCLA game but he allowed himself to take sacks as a result. You could see him pull back the ball. The next step in his maturation is learning to live to fight another down and not take the loss.backthepack said:
PFF, it’s why his raw numbers look good by PFF has him as QB6 in the PAC-12.dtd said:
Stats? PFF I assume? Couldn't just be BTP bullshit.backthepack said:
Shough has the most turnover worthy plays of any QB in the conference but doesn’t have a lot of turnovers, it’ll regress back to the mean and he’ll lose you a game.lawsandl said:
The offense is more efficient this year without Herbert. I shutter to think what Moorehead would do with Herbert, last year's oline and Breeland.Edwin_Bambino said:
Mario got Herbert - who has shown in the NFL to be quite good, so while I mostly agree I’m not completely buying that narrativecreepycoug said:
Mario had more to do than Jimmy. And Cristo is recruiting at a level never before seen at Oregon. Not even close.YellowSnow said:
Odds are @creepycoug he is not elite. Iron laws are iron laws. But if he wins the Pac in a shitty abortion of a season he might might be at least Mario good.creepycoug said:As for the game, I'd call it a UW lean based on what I've seen so far. Arizona looks bad, but then again, good teams ass rape bad teams. Right now, UW looks like the better team, which shouldn't shock too many people. Both teams lost some players, but based on memory alone Oregon lost more, including an entire position group. I
Oregon's D is not the same. I said losing Graham, who had really turned himself into a shut down corner and great tackler after being so bad as an underclassman, hurt. Losing Sewell at ILB will hurt. Still, there is a lot of talent on the roster, and so it depends on what they gain in the next two games and how they come out against UW.
Haven't seen enough of UW to be convinced they are a world beater yet. I've always said no fan gets more cocky in a shorter period of time based on less than a Husky. Christ when 70-21 happened it was like the prior 12 years, or whatever, had never occurred. Rightful place and USC respect and all that good stuff. Miami fans used to be a close second, but they've been fed a steady dose of reality now for the last many years. So there's that.
That all said, the idea that this is an "I told you so with Lake" is just amazing to me given recent history, even for doogs like BigErn. I assume when you? guys said let it play out, you didn't mean 2 games into this abortion of a season.
Jimmy is not elite. Lolz.
@backthepack
Jimmy inherited an intact program benefiting from years of very good recruiting.
Different situations.
Jimmy is LIPO. That’s all.
These past two games are glossing over the fact that Lake hired John Donavon. He was a terrible hire. The past two games are fool's gold and not sure that Utah will expose that.
If Shough throws a couple INTs and they lose, it will still be because of the defense.
You can already see his progression.
-
They had Gebbia #2 last week.backthepack said:
PFF, it’s why his raw numbers look good by PFF has him as QB6 in the PAC-12.dtd said:
Stats? PFF I assume? Couldn't just be BTP bullshit.backthepack said:
Shough has the most turnover worthy plays of any QB in the conference but doesn’t have a lot of turnovers, it’ll regress back to the mean and he’ll lose you a game.lawsandl said:
The offense is more efficient this year without Herbert. I shutter to think what Moorehead would do with Herbert, last year's oline and Breeland.Edwin_Bambino said:
Mario got Herbert - who has shown in the NFL to be quite good, so while I mostly agree I’m not completely buying that narrativecreepycoug said:
Mario had more to do than Jimmy. And Cristo is recruiting at a level never before seen at Oregon. Not even close.YellowSnow said:
Odds are @creepycoug he is not elite. Iron laws are iron laws. But if he wins the Pac in a shitty abortion of a season he might might be at least Mario good.creepycoug said:As for the game, I'd call it a UW lean based on what I've seen so far. Arizona looks bad, but then again, good teams ass rape bad teams. Right now, UW looks like the better team, which shouldn't shock too many people. Both teams lost some players, but based on memory alone Oregon lost more, including an entire position group. I
Oregon's D is not the same. I said losing Graham, who had really turned himself into a shut down corner and great tackler after being so bad as an underclassman, hurt. Losing Sewell at ILB will hurt. Still, there is a lot of talent on the roster, and so it depends on what they gain in the next two games and how they come out against UW.
Haven't seen enough of UW to be convinced they are a world beater yet. I've always said no fan gets more cocky in a shorter period of time based on less than a Husky. Christ when 70-21 happened it was like the prior 12 years, or whatever, had never occurred. Rightful place and USC respect and all that good stuff. Miami fans used to be a close second, but they've been fed a steady dose of reality now for the last many years. So there's that.
That all said, the idea that this is an "I told you so with Lake" is just amazing to me given recent history, even for doogs like BigErn. I assume when you? guys said let it play out, you didn't mean 2 games into this abortion of a season.
Jimmy is not elite. Lolz.
@backthepack
Jimmy inherited an intact program benefiting from years of very good recruiting.
Different situations.
Jimmy is LIPO. That’s all.
These past two games are glossing over the fact that Lake hired John Donavon. He was a terrible hire. The past two games are fool's gold and not sure that Utah will expose that.
If Shough throws a couple INTs and they lose, it will still be because of the defense. -
Translation. I’d like to see this play out.backthepack said:
PFF, it’s why his raw numbers look good by PFF has him as QB6 in the PAC-12.dtd said:
Stats? PFF I assume? Couldn't just be BTP bullshit.backthepack said:
Shough has the most turnover worthy plays of any QB in the conference but doesn’t have a lot of turnovers, it’ll regress back to the mean and he’ll lose you a game.lawsandl said:
The offense is more efficient this year without Herbert. I shutter to think what Moorehead would do with Herbert, last year's oline and Breeland.Edwin_Bambino said:
Mario got Herbert - who has shown in the NFL to be quite good, so while I mostly agree I’m not completely buying that narrativecreepycoug said:
Mario had more to do than Jimmy. And Cristo is recruiting at a level never before seen at Oregon. Not even close.YellowSnow said:
Odds are @creepycoug he is not elite. Iron laws are iron laws. But if he wins the Pac in a shitty abortion of a season he might might be at least Mario good.creepycoug said:As for the game, I'd call it a UW lean based on what I've seen so far. Arizona looks bad, but then again, good teams ass rape bad teams. Right now, UW looks like the better team, which shouldn't shock too many people. Both teams lost some players, but based on memory alone Oregon lost more, including an entire position group. I
Oregon's D is not the same. I said losing Graham, who had really turned himself into a shut down corner and great tackler after being so bad as an underclassman, hurt. Losing Sewell at ILB will hurt. Still, there is a lot of talent on the roster, and so it depends on what they gain in the next two games and how they come out against UW.
Haven't seen enough of UW to be convinced they are a world beater yet. I've always said no fan gets more cocky in a shorter period of time based on less than a Husky. Christ when 70-21 happened it was like the prior 12 years, or whatever, had never occurred. Rightful place and USC respect and all that good stuff. Miami fans used to be a close second, but they've been fed a steady dose of reality now for the last many years. So there's that.
That all said, the idea that this is an "I told you so with Lake" is just amazing to me given recent history, even for doogs like BigErn. I assume when you? guys said let it play out, you didn't mean 2 games into this abortion of a season.
Jimmy is not elite. Lolz.
@backthepack
Jimmy inherited an intact program benefiting from years of very good recruiting.
Different situations.
Jimmy is LIPO. That’s all.
These past two games are glossing over the fact that Lake hired John Donavon. He was a terrible hire. The past two games are fool's gold and not sure that Utah will expose that.
If Shough throws a couple INTs and they lose, it will still be because of the defense. -
It’s cause he fried the cougs. He was shit against UW/Caldtd said:
They had Gebbia #2 last week.backthepack said:
PFF, it’s why his raw numbers look good by PFF has him as QB6 in the PAC-12.dtd said:
Stats? PFF I assume? Couldn't just be BTP bullshit.backthepack said:
Shough has the most turnover worthy plays of any QB in the conference but doesn’t have a lot of turnovers, it’ll regress back to the mean and he’ll lose you a game.lawsandl said:
The offense is more efficient this year without Herbert. I shutter to think what Moorehead would do with Herbert, last year's oline and Breeland.Edwin_Bambino said:
Mario got Herbert - who has shown in the NFL to be quite good, so while I mostly agree I’m not completely buying that narrativecreepycoug said:
Mario had more to do than Jimmy. And Cristo is recruiting at a level never before seen at Oregon. Not even close.YellowSnow said:
Odds are @creepycoug he is not elite. Iron laws are iron laws. But if he wins the Pac in a shitty abortion of a season he might might be at least Mario good.creepycoug said:As for the game, I'd call it a UW lean based on what I've seen so far. Arizona looks bad, but then again, good teams ass rape bad teams. Right now, UW looks like the better team, which shouldn't shock too many people. Both teams lost some players, but based on memory alone Oregon lost more, including an entire position group. I
Oregon's D is not the same. I said losing Graham, who had really turned himself into a shut down corner and great tackler after being so bad as an underclassman, hurt. Losing Sewell at ILB will hurt. Still, there is a lot of talent on the roster, and so it depends on what they gain in the next two games and how they come out against UW.
Haven't seen enough of UW to be convinced they are a world beater yet. I've always said no fan gets more cocky in a shorter period of time based on less than a Husky. Christ when 70-21 happened it was like the prior 12 years, or whatever, had never occurred. Rightful place and USC respect and all that good stuff. Miami fans used to be a close second, but they've been fed a steady dose of reality now for the last many years. So there's that.
That all said, the idea that this is an "I told you so with Lake" is just amazing to me given recent history, even for doogs like BigErn. I assume when you? guys said let it play out, you didn't mean 2 games into this abortion of a season.
Jimmy is not elite. Lolz.
@backthepack
Jimmy inherited an intact program benefiting from years of very good recruiting.
Different situations.
Jimmy is LIPO. That’s all.
These past two games are glossing over the fact that Lake hired John Donavon. He was a terrible hire. The past two games are fool's gold and not sure that Utah will expose that.
If Shough throws a couple INTs and they lose, it will still be because of the defense. -
I’m sure, it’s not a lot of data points but still concerning.creepycoug said:
Translation. I’d like to see this play out.backthepack said:
PFF, it’s why his raw numbers look good by PFF has him as QB6 in the PAC-12.dtd said:
Stats? PFF I assume? Couldn't just be BTP bullshit.backthepack said:
Shough has the most turnover worthy plays of any QB in the conference but doesn’t have a lot of turnovers, it’ll regress back to the mean and he’ll lose you a game.lawsandl said:
The offense is more efficient this year without Herbert. I shutter to think what Moorehead would do with Herbert, last year's oline and Breeland.Edwin_Bambino said:
Mario got Herbert - who has shown in the NFL to be quite good, so while I mostly agree I’m not completely buying that narrativecreepycoug said:
Mario had more to do than Jimmy. And Cristo is recruiting at a level never before seen at Oregon. Not even close.YellowSnow said:
Odds are @creepycoug he is not elite. Iron laws are iron laws. But if he wins the Pac in a shitty abortion of a season he might might be at least Mario good.creepycoug said:As for the game, I'd call it a UW lean based on what I've seen so far. Arizona looks bad, but then again, good teams ass rape bad teams. Right now, UW looks like the better team, which shouldn't shock too many people. Both teams lost some players, but based on memory alone Oregon lost more, including an entire position group. I
Oregon's D is not the same. I said losing Graham, who had really turned himself into a shut down corner and great tackler after being so bad as an underclassman, hurt. Losing Sewell at ILB will hurt. Still, there is a lot of talent on the roster, and so it depends on what they gain in the next two games and how they come out against UW.
Haven't seen enough of UW to be convinced they are a world beater yet. I've always said no fan gets more cocky in a shorter period of time based on less than a Husky. Christ when 70-21 happened it was like the prior 12 years, or whatever, had never occurred. Rightful place and USC respect and all that good stuff. Miami fans used to be a close second, but they've been fed a steady dose of reality now for the last many years. So there's that.
That all said, the idea that this is an "I told you so with Lake" is just amazing to me given recent history, even for doogs like BigErn. I assume when you? guys said let it play out, you didn't mean 2 games into this abortion of a season.
Jimmy is not elite. Lolz.
@backthepack
Jimmy inherited an intact program benefiting from years of very good recruiting.
Different situations.
Jimmy is LIPO. That’s all.
These past two games are glossing over the fact that Lake hired John Donavon. He was a terrible hire. The past two games are fool's gold and not sure that Utah will expose that.
If Shough throws a couple INTs and they lose, it will still be because of the defense.
It’s not my take btw. PFF is usually good. They have the best football analysis services on the market place by a long shot. -
backthepack said:
Ok. He’s using modern passing concepts, using heavy PA, and creating mismatches via formation. He’s doing everything right to stretch and stress a defense. He’s good so far. People can learn and adapt. Besides Franklin never gave Donovan full autonomy over his offense.lawsandl said:
There's a lot more data on John Donavon than Shough. More often than not, if you're a below average coordinator, you stay a below average coordinator. Baseline talent will change the results.backthepack said:
Shough has the most turnover worthy plays of any QB in the conference but doesn’t have a lot of turnovers, it’ll regress back to the mean and he’ll lose you a game.lawsandl said:
The offense is more efficient this year without Herbert. I shutter to think what Moorehead would do with Herbert, last year's oline and Breeland.Edwin_Bambino said:
Mario got Herbert - who has shown in the NFL to be quite good, so while I mostly agree I’m not completely buying that narrativecreepycoug said:
Mario had more to do than Jimmy. And Cristo is recruiting at a level never before seen at Oregon. Not even close.YellowSnow said:
Odds are @creepycoug he is not elite. Iron laws are iron laws. But if he wins the Pac in a shitty abortion of a season he might might be at least Mario good.creepycoug said:As for the game, I'd call it a UW lean based on what I've seen so far. Arizona looks bad, but then again, good teams ass rape bad teams. Right now, UW looks like the better team, which shouldn't shock too many people. Both teams lost some players, but based on memory alone Oregon lost more, including an entire position group. I
Oregon's D is not the same. I said losing Graham, who had really turned himself into a shut down corner and great tackler after being so bad as an underclassman, hurt. Losing Sewell at ILB will hurt. Still, there is a lot of talent on the roster, and so it depends on what they gain in the next two games and how they come out against UW.
Haven't seen enough of UW to be convinced they are a world beater yet. I've always said no fan gets more cocky in a shorter period of time based on less than a Husky. Christ when 70-21 happened it was like the prior 12 years, or whatever, had never occurred. Rightful place and USC respect and all that good stuff. Miami fans used to be a close second, but they've been fed a steady dose of reality now for the last many years. So there's that.
That all said, the idea that this is an "I told you so with Lake" is just amazing to me given recent history, even for doogs like BigErn. I assume when you? guys said let it play out, you didn't mean 2 games into this abortion of a season.
Jimmy is not elite. Lolz.
@backthepack
Jimmy inherited an intact program benefiting from years of very good recruiting.
Different situations.
Jimmy is LIPO. That’s all.
These past two games are glossing over the fact that Lake hired John Donavon. He was a terrible hire. The past two games are fool's gold and not sure that Utah will expose that.
There was not one DB that could cover in man besides Wallace. Arizona couldn't keep the lid on their defense. Oregon State doesn't have a DT that is over 280 pounds and they're not good. There are two players to scheme around with Oregon State. Those are two of the worse recruiters in the league that lost integral players.backthepack said:
It’s cause he fried the cougs. He was shit against UW/Caldtd said:
They had Gebbia #2 last week.backthepack said:
PFF, it’s why his raw numbers look good by PFF has him as QB6 in the PAC-12.dtd said:
Stats? PFF I assume? Couldn't just be BTP bullshit.backthepack said:
Shough has the most turnover worthy plays of any QB in the conference but doesn’t have a lot of turnovers, it’ll regress back to the mean and he’ll lose you a game.lawsandl said:
The offense is more efficient this year without Herbert. I shutter to think what Moorehead would do with Herbert, last year's oline and Breeland.Edwin_Bambino said:
Mario got Herbert - who has shown in the NFL to be quite good, so while I mostly agree I’m not completely buying that narrativecreepycoug said:
Mario had more to do than Jimmy. And Cristo is recruiting at a level never before seen at Oregon. Not even close.YellowSnow said:
Odds are @creepycoug he is not elite. Iron laws are iron laws. But if he wins the Pac in a shitty abortion of a season he might might be at least Mario good.creepycoug said:As for the game, I'd call it a UW lean based on what I've seen so far. Arizona looks bad, but then again, good teams ass rape bad teams. Right now, UW looks like the better team, which shouldn't shock too many people. Both teams lost some players, but based on memory alone Oregon lost more, including an entire position group. I
Oregon's D is not the same. I said losing Graham, who had really turned himself into a shut down corner and great tackler after being so bad as an underclassman, hurt. Losing Sewell at ILB will hurt. Still, there is a lot of talent on the roster, and so it depends on what they gain in the next two games and how they come out against UW.
Haven't seen enough of UW to be convinced they are a world beater yet. I've always said no fan gets more cocky in a shorter period of time based on less than a Husky. Christ when 70-21 happened it was like the prior 12 years, or whatever, had never occurred. Rightful place and USC respect and all that good stuff. Miami fans used to be a close second, but they've been fed a steady dose of reality now for the last many years. So there's that.
That all said, the idea that this is an "I told you so with Lake" is just amazing to me given recent history, even for doogs like BigErn. I assume when you? guys said let it play out, you didn't mean 2 games into this abortion of a season.
Jimmy is not elite. Lolz.
@backthepack
Jimmy inherited an intact program benefiting from years of very good recruiting.
Different situations.
Jimmy is LIPO. That’s all.
These past two games are glossing over the fact that Lake hired John Donavon. He was a terrible hire. The past two games are fool's gold and not sure that Utah will expose that.
If Shough throws a couple INTs and they lose, it will still be because of the defense.
Everyone has a great philosophy until they get punched in the mouth. Let's wait and see Donovan after he plays someone that can field both an average DL and secondary. -
Looking at process>>> arguing semanticslawsandl said:backthepack said:
Ok. He’s using modern passing concepts, using heavy PA, and creating mismatches via formation. He’s doing everything right to stretch and stress a defense. He’s good so far. People can learn and adapt. Besides Franklin never gave Donovan full autonomy over his offense.lawsandl said:
There's a lot more data on John Donavon than Shough. More often than not, if you're a below average coordinator, you stay a below average coordinator. Baseline talent will change the results.backthepack said:
Shough has the most turnover worthy plays of any QB in the conference but doesn’t have a lot of turnovers, it’ll regress back to the mean and he’ll lose you a game.lawsandl said:
The offense is more efficient this year without Herbert. I shutter to think what Moorehead would do with Herbert, last year's oline and Breeland.Edwin_Bambino said:
Mario got Herbert - who has shown in the NFL to be quite good, so while I mostly agree I’m not completely buying that narrativecreepycoug said:
Mario had more to do than Jimmy. And Cristo is recruiting at a level never before seen at Oregon. Not even close.YellowSnow said:
Odds are @creepycoug he is not elite. Iron laws are iron laws. But if he wins the Pac in a shitty abortion of a season he might might be at least Mario good.creepycoug said:As for the game, I'd call it a UW lean based on what I've seen so far. Arizona looks bad, but then again, good teams ass rape bad teams. Right now, UW looks like the better team, which shouldn't shock too many people. Both teams lost some players, but based on memory alone Oregon lost more, including an entire position group. I
Oregon's D is not the same. I said losing Graham, who had really turned himself into a shut down corner and great tackler after being so bad as an underclassman, hurt. Losing Sewell at ILB will hurt. Still, there is a lot of talent on the roster, and so it depends on what they gain in the next two games and how they come out against UW.
Haven't seen enough of UW to be convinced they are a world beater yet. I've always said no fan gets more cocky in a shorter period of time based on less than a Husky. Christ when 70-21 happened it was like the prior 12 years, or whatever, had never occurred. Rightful place and USC respect and all that good stuff. Miami fans used to be a close second, but they've been fed a steady dose of reality now for the last many years. So there's that.
That all said, the idea that this is an "I told you so with Lake" is just amazing to me given recent history, even for doogs like BigErn. I assume when you? guys said let it play out, you didn't mean 2 games into this abortion of a season.
Jimmy is not elite. Lolz.
@backthepack
Jimmy inherited an intact program benefiting from years of very good recruiting.
Different situations.
Jimmy is LIPO. That’s all.
These past two games are glossing over the fact that Lake hired John Donavon. He was a terrible hire. The past two games are fool's gold and not sure that Utah will expose that.
There was not one DB that could cover in man besides Wallace. Arizona couldn't keep the lid on their defense. Oregon State doesn't have a DT that is over 280 pounds and they're not good. There are two players to scheme around with Oregon State. Those are two of the worse recruiters in the league that lost integral players.backthepack said:
It’s cause he fried the cougs. He was shit against UW/Caldtd said:
They had Gebbia #2 last week.backthepack said:
PFF, it’s why his raw numbers look good by PFF has him as QB6 in the PAC-12.dtd said:
Stats? PFF I assume? Couldn't just be BTP bullshit.backthepack said:
Shough has the most turnover worthy plays of any QB in the conference but doesn’t have a lot of turnovers, it’ll regress back to the mean and he’ll lose you a game.lawsandl said:
The offense is more efficient this year without Herbert. I shutter to think what Moorehead would do with Herbert, last year's oline and Breeland.Edwin_Bambino said:
Mario got Herbert - who has shown in the NFL to be quite good, so while I mostly agree I’m not completely buying that narrativecreepycoug said:
Mario had more to do than Jimmy. And Cristo is recruiting at a level never before seen at Oregon. Not even close.YellowSnow said:
Odds are @creepycoug he is not elite. Iron laws are iron laws. But if he wins the Pac in a shitty abortion of a season he might might be at least Mario good.creepycoug said:As for the game, I'd call it a UW lean based on what I've seen so far. Arizona looks bad, but then again, good teams ass rape bad teams. Right now, UW looks like the better team, which shouldn't shock too many people. Both teams lost some players, but based on memory alone Oregon lost more, including an entire position group. I
Oregon's D is not the same. I said losing Graham, who had really turned himself into a shut down corner and great tackler after being so bad as an underclassman, hurt. Losing Sewell at ILB will hurt. Still, there is a lot of talent on the roster, and so it depends on what they gain in the next two games and how they come out against UW.
Haven't seen enough of UW to be convinced they are a world beater yet. I've always said no fan gets more cocky in a shorter period of time based on less than a Husky. Christ when 70-21 happened it was like the prior 12 years, or whatever, had never occurred. Rightful place and USC respect and all that good stuff. Miami fans used to be a close second, but they've been fed a steady dose of reality now for the last many years. So there's that.
That all said, the idea that this is an "I told you so with Lake" is just amazing to me given recent history, even for doogs like BigErn. I assume when you? guys said let it play out, you didn't mean 2 games into this abortion of a season.
Jimmy is not elite. Lolz.
@backthepack
Jimmy inherited an intact program benefiting from years of very good recruiting.
Different situations.
Jimmy is LIPO. That’s all.
These past two games are glossing over the fact that Lake hired John Donavon. He was a terrible hire. The past two games are fool's gold and not sure that Utah will expose that.
If Shough throws a couple INTs and they lose, it will still be because of the defense.
Everyone has a great philosophy until they get punched in the mouth. Let's wait and see Donovan after he plays someone that can field both an average DL and secondary. -
You'd jizz to death for a first year starter QB with a 170 something QBR at 10 ypa after 3 conference games.backthepack said:
I’m sure, it’s not a lot of data points but still concerning.creepycoug said:
Translation. I’d like to see this play out.backthepack said:
PFF, it’s why his raw numbers look good by PFF has him as QB6 in the PAC-12.dtd said:
Stats? PFF I assume? Couldn't just be BTP bullshit.backthepack said:
Shough has the most turnover worthy plays of any QB in the conference but doesn’t have a lot of turnovers, it’ll regress back to the mean and he’ll lose you a game.lawsandl said:
The offense is more efficient this year without Herbert. I shutter to think what Moorehead would do with Herbert, last year's oline and Breeland.Edwin_Bambino said:
Mario got Herbert - who has shown in the NFL to be quite good, so while I mostly agree I’m not completely buying that narrativecreepycoug said:
Mario had more to do than Jimmy. And Cristo is recruiting at a level never before seen at Oregon. Not even close.YellowSnow said:
Odds are @creepycoug he is not elite. Iron laws are iron laws. But if he wins the Pac in a shitty abortion of a season he might might be at least Mario good.creepycoug said:As for the game, I'd call it a UW lean based on what I've seen so far. Arizona looks bad, but then again, good teams ass rape bad teams. Right now, UW looks like the better team, which shouldn't shock too many people. Both teams lost some players, but based on memory alone Oregon lost more, including an entire position group. I
Oregon's D is not the same. I said losing Graham, who had really turned himself into a shut down corner and great tackler after being so bad as an underclassman, hurt. Losing Sewell at ILB will hurt. Still, there is a lot of talent on the roster, and so it depends on what they gain in the next two games and how they come out against UW.
Haven't seen enough of UW to be convinced they are a world beater yet. I've always said no fan gets more cocky in a shorter period of time based on less than a Husky. Christ when 70-21 happened it was like the prior 12 years, or whatever, had never occurred. Rightful place and USC respect and all that good stuff. Miami fans used to be a close second, but they've been fed a steady dose of reality now for the last many years. So there's that.
That all said, the idea that this is an "I told you so with Lake" is just amazing to me given recent history, even for doogs like BigErn. I assume when you? guys said let it play out, you didn't mean 2 games into this abortion of a season.
Jimmy is not elite. Lolz.
@backthepack
Jimmy inherited an intact program benefiting from years of very good recruiting.
Different situations.
Jimmy is LIPO. That’s all.
These past two games are glossing over the fact that Lake hired John Donavon. He was a terrible hire. The past two games are fool's gold and not sure that Utah will expose that.
If Shough throws a couple INTs and they lose, it will still be because of the defense.
It’s not my take btw. PFF is usually good. They have the best football analysis services on the market place by a long shot.
If only those 2 passes had been intercepted Oregon would still be 3-0. -
I feel like we are seeing the emergence of Devon Williams too. His body control at 6'5" is elite. Oregon finally has a legit two deep at receiver.dtd said:
You'd jizz to death for a first year starter QB with a 170 something QBR at 10 ypa after 3 conference games.backthepack said:
I’m sure, it’s not a lot of data points but still concerning.creepycoug said:
Translation. I’d like to see this play out.backthepack said:
PFF, it’s why his raw numbers look good by PFF has him as QB6 in the PAC-12.dtd said:
Stats? PFF I assume? Couldn't just be BTP bullshit.backthepack said:
Shough has the most turnover worthy plays of any QB in the conference but doesn’t have a lot of turnovers, it’ll regress back to the mean and he’ll lose you a game.lawsandl said:
The offense is more efficient this year without Herbert. I shutter to think what Moorehead would do with Herbert, last year's oline and Breeland.Edwin_Bambino said:
Mario got Herbert - who has shown in the NFL to be quite good, so while I mostly agree I’m not completely buying that narrativecreepycoug said:
Mario had more to do than Jimmy. And Cristo is recruiting at a level never before seen at Oregon. Not even close.YellowSnow said:
Odds are @creepycoug he is not elite. Iron laws are iron laws. But if he wins the Pac in a shitty abortion of a season he might might be at least Mario good.creepycoug said:As for the game, I'd call it a UW lean based on what I've seen so far. Arizona looks bad, but then again, good teams ass rape bad teams. Right now, UW looks like the better team, which shouldn't shock too many people. Both teams lost some players, but based on memory alone Oregon lost more, including an entire position group. I
Oregon's D is not the same. I said losing Graham, who had really turned himself into a shut down corner and great tackler after being so bad as an underclassman, hurt. Losing Sewell at ILB will hurt. Still, there is a lot of talent on the roster, and so it depends on what they gain in the next two games and how they come out against UW.
Haven't seen enough of UW to be convinced they are a world beater yet. I've always said no fan gets more cocky in a shorter period of time based on less than a Husky. Christ when 70-21 happened it was like the prior 12 years, or whatever, had never occurred. Rightful place and USC respect and all that good stuff. Miami fans used to be a close second, but they've been fed a steady dose of reality now for the last many years. So there's that.
That all said, the idea that this is an "I told you so with Lake" is just amazing to me given recent history, even for doogs like BigErn. I assume when you? guys said let it play out, you didn't mean 2 games into this abortion of a season.
Jimmy is not elite. Lolz.
@backthepack
Jimmy inherited an intact program benefiting from years of very good recruiting.
Different situations.
Jimmy is LIPO. That’s all.
These past two games are glossing over the fact that Lake hired John Donavon. He was a terrible hire. The past two games are fool's gold and not sure that Utah will expose that.
If Shough throws a couple INTs and they lose, it will still be because of the defense.
It’s not my take btw. PFF is usually good. They have the best football analysis services on the market place by a long shot.
If only those 2 passes had been intercepted Oregon would still be 3-0.
Now they just need to integrate Cam McCormick and Spencer Webb. The offense is a nightmare with how these backs can catch the ball.
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lawsandl said:dtd said:
You'd jizz to death for a first year starter QB with a 170 something QBR at 10 ypa after 3 conference games.backthepack said:
I’m sure, it’s not a lot of data points but still concerning.creepycoug said:
Translation. I’d like to see this play out.backthepack said:
PFF, it’s why his raw numbers look good by PFF has him as QB6 in the PAC-12.dtd said:
Stats? PFF I assume? Couldn't just be BTP bullshit.backthepack said:
Shough has the most turnover worthy plays of any QB in the conference but doesn’t have a lot of turnovers, it’ll regress back to the mean and he’ll lose you a game.lawsandl said:
The offense is more efficient this year without Herbert. I shutter to think what Moorehead would do with Herbert, last year's oline and Breeland.Edwin_Bambino said:
Mario got Herbert - who has shown in the NFL to be quite good, so while I mostly agree I’m not completely buying that narrativecreepycoug said:
Mario had more to do than Jimmy. And Cristo is recruiting at a level never before seen at Oregon. Not even close.YellowSnow said:
Odds are @creepycoug he is not elite. Iron laws are iron laws. But if he wins the Pac in a shitty abortion of a season he might might be at least Mario good.creepycoug said:As for the game, I'd call it a UW lean based on what I've seen so far. Arizona looks bad, but then again, good teams ass rape bad teams. Right now, UW looks like the better team, which shouldn't shock too many people. Both teams lost some players, but based on memory alone Oregon lost more, including an entire position group. I
Oregon's D is not the same. I said losing Graham, who had really turned himself into a shut down corner and great tackler after being so bad as an underclassman, hurt. Losing Sewell at ILB will hurt. Still, there is a lot of talent on the roster, and so it depends on what they gain in the next two games and how they come out against UW.
Haven't seen enough of UW to be convinced they are a world beater yet. I've always said no fan gets more cocky in a shorter period of time based on less than a Husky. Christ when 70-21 happened it was like the prior 12 years, or whatever, had never occurred. Rightful place and USC respect and all that good stuff. Miami fans used to be a close second, but they've been fed a steady dose of reality now for the last many years. So there's that.
That all said, the idea that this is an "I told you so with Lake" is just amazing to me given recent history, even for doogs like BigErn. I assume when you? guys said let it play out, you didn't mean 2 games into this abortion of a season.
Jimmy is not elite. Lolz.
@backthepack
Jimmy inherited an intact program benefiting from years of very good recruiting.
Different situations.
Jimmy is LIPO. That’s all.
These past two games are glossing over the fact that Lake hired John Donavon. He was a terrible hire. The past two games are fool's gold and not sure that Utah will expose that.
If Shough throws a couple INTs and they lose, it will still be because of the defense.
It’s not my take btw. PFF is usually good. They have the best football analysis services on the market place by a long shot.
If only those 2 passes had been intercepted Oregon would still be 3-0.
Now they just need to integrate Cam McCormick
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It still amazes me that the Ducks on this bored don't understand that this isn't dawgman
HH: "we suck until we don't. Did you know you could practice oral on a cantoloupe?"
Duck: "I've done some advanced metrics and the Ducks are really gonna take off once Cam McCormick gets his reads down. You guys have no chance. Argue with me about it." -
Did anyone catch that I said Webb and McCormick? I just am excited about full available for TEs.bananasnblondes said:It still amazes me that the Ducks on this bored don't understand that this isn't dawgman
HH: "we suck until we don't. Did you know you could practice oral on a cantoloupe?"
Duck: "I've done some advanced metrics and the Ducks are really gonna take off once Cam McCormick gets his reads down. You guys have no chance. Argue with me about it."
I walked into that one since McCormick is the greatest TE to never play.
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I can't even get creep to stop sucking Oregon's dick, so it's probably a lost cause to think the tv bobbleheads will stop any time soon.
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Dont engage with creep. He's a cane fan from Grays Harbor with cuog in his handle who hangs out on a husky board sucking off Oregon. You can't win with someone that confused. Just let him do his thing and try to enjoy and remember him for his few moments of clarity.
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Cristobal is Rick Neuheisel until he isn't
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Scoreboard babyRaceBannon said:Cristobal is Rick Neuheisel until he isn't
