the market speaks on $15 an hour
Are you happy with the $15 wage?” I asked the full-time cleaning lady.
“It sounds good, but it’s not good,” the woman said.
“Why?” I asked.
“I lost my 401k, health insurance, paid holiday, and vacation,” she responded. “No more free food,” she added.
The hotel used to feed her. Now, she has to bring her own food. Also, no overtime, she said. She used to work extra hours and received overtime pay.
What else? I asked.
“I have to pay for parking,” she said.
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I just dont know why they stopped at 15.... Should just go to 50. More money equals a better economy and happier people. Fact.
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The idea behind a higher minimum wage is that the money will come out of corporate profits and executive salaries.
Executives didn't become executives by allowing workers to be fairly compensated and letting profits fall. That is a downside to reality.
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I think we should ban corporate profits. Cap them at the very least.Mad_Son said:The idea behind a higher minimum wage is that the money will come out of corporate profits and executive salaries.
Executives didn't become executives by allowing workers to be fairly compensated and letting profits fall. That is a downside to reality. -
$15 was a good round number they said - good marketing/politikCuntWaffle said:I just dont know why they stopped at 15.... Should just go to 50. More money equals a better economy and happier people. Fact.
Funny thing is, there was a piece in the ST this week (too lazy, look it up yourself) revealing that these Bolsheviks didn't know about inflation. The $15 doesn't get phased in until 2020. They were up in arms that it would be only $13 and some change by that point in time.
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They think they are helping the workers making $9.50 an hour and what will happen will all of those people will simply make more. The reality is some off them might, but at $15 the labor supply will grow and there will be more competition for those jobs. The pool people will be better educated, better communication skills (I.e. They speak English) and will take the jobs from those that this is meant to help. They are essentially making it against the law for people who are worth $9.50 to have a job.
Also, demand for labor in that sector will decrease, further squeezing them out. I LOLd at the guy holding the sign demanding a $15 wage...it was in Spanish. He was basically asking the council to outlaw his ability to work.
To the degree that any of this affects the economy is related to how close the wage is to equilibrium. In the past I suspect minimum wage was close to equilibrium and the increases in the wage we small so the affect wasn't dramatic. This increase seems much larger is the affects could be more pronounced.
Seattle also has a fairly strong economy that can absorb some of this, but I think the bottom line is a lot of people who think they are getting a raise will get a big fat zero. -
I've had that conversation. They use a false argument that more money for people to spend will be multiplied and help the economy. It's false because productivity has not changed and they may be taking money that could be used for capital investment. Those are the true drivers of growth. Not consumption. (This is why it's not a zero sum game) And even if it is spent by these people, it has no better benefit than if the owners, executives and managers spent it.CuntWaffle said:I just dont know why they stopped at 15.... Should just go to 50. More money equals a better economy and happier people. Fact.
So if you extend their argument out that if $15 is good, why not $50 or $100, they say no one is talking about a wage that high and it's hyperbole. But what they deny or are too dumb to grasp is the same economic models that make $50 ridiculous, apply to $15 and hour. The intuitively know that $50 is too much, but have an arbitrary number in their head they think will work. The question isn't if the wage will be out of equilibrium, but by how much, and how much is acceptable to them? How many people are they willing to hurt in order to help others? That is not compassion, that's using the force of government to coerce people to forward their socialist agenda. It's easy to feign compassion with other peoples money. It makes you look like a fucking hero at cocktail parties and the reception area of the youth symphony ( hi collegedoog). -
MikeDamone said:
They think they are helping the workers making $9.50 an hour and what will happen will all of those people will simply make more. The reality is some off them might, but at $15 the labor supply will grow and there will be more competition for those jobs. The pool people will be better educated, better communication skills (I.e. They speak English) and will take the jobs from those that this is meant to help. They are essentially making it against the law for people who are worth $9.50 to have a job.
Also, demand for labor in that sector will decrease, further squeezing them out. I LOLd at the guy holding the sign demanding a $15 wage...it was in Spanish. He was basically asking the council to outlaw his ability to work.
To the degree that any of this affects the economy is related to how close the wage is to equilibrium. In the past I suspect minimum wage was close to equilibrium and the increases in the wage we small so the affect wasn't dramatic. This increase seems much larger is the affects could be more pronounced.
Seattle also has a fairly strong economy that can absorb some of this, but I think the bottom line is a bot of people who think they are getting a raise will get a big fat zero.Line
Leave Mrs Blitzkrieg out of this.
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Teachers make $80K in New York, productivity appears up:
nydailynews.com/new-york/queens/queens-gym-teacher-raped-16-year-old-wrestler-school-prosecutors-article-1.1815445 -
Where the fuck were these teachers when I was in school?priapism said:Teachers make $80K in New York, productivity appears up:
nydailynews.com/new-york/queens/queens-gym-teacher-raped-16-year-old-wrestler-school-prosecutors-article-1.1815445
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If they were paid 100k they could probably keep the rapists out.priapism said:Teachers make $80K in New York, productivity appears up:
nydailynews.com/new-york/queens/queens-gym-teacher-raped-16-year-old-wrestler-school-prosecutors-article-1.1815445 -
priapism said:
Teachers make $80K in New York, productivity appears up:
nydailynews.com/new-york/queens/queens-gym-teacher-raped-16-year-old-wrestler-school-prosecutors-article-1.1815445
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So wait....You're saying that even though we gave people more money, we aren't really getting more money because we aren't producing more? That makes no sense!
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People should only have to work 4 hours and be paid for 8. I read some article about how Europe is a way better place because of free time and stuff.
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Europe rules, because you can get addicted to smack and get it for free from the government for the rest of your life. What a great place!
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EVERY ounce counts when you're trying to make weight. She really seemed to care and put more effort into her work.
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Needed to balance D2D's, Mike Damone's and CuntWaffle's FS economic propaganda spooge.Mad_Son said:The idea behind a higher minimum wage is that the money will come out of corporate profits and executive salaries.
Executives didn't become executives by allowing workers to be fairly compensated and letting profits fall. That is a downside to reality. -
MikeDamone said:
I've had that conversation. They use a false argument that more money for people to spend will be multiplied and help the economy. It's false because productivity has not changed and theyCuntWaffle said:I just dont know why they stopped at 15.... Should just go to 50. More money equals a better economy and happier people. Fact.
may be taking money that could be used for capital investmentmay be taking money meant to put that new swimming pool in your CEO's private jet. -
.CuntWaffle said:People should only have to work 4 hours and be paid for 8. I read some article about how Europe is a way better place because of free time and stuff.
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Pictures of Mrs. Blitzkrieg's big fat zero or get the fuck out.dnc said:MikeDamone said:They think they are helping the workers making $9.50 an hour and what will happen will all of those people will simply make more. The reality is some off them might, but at $15 the labor supply will grow and there will be more competition for those jobs. The pool people will be better educated, better communication skills (I.e. They speak English) and will take the jobs from those that this is meant to help. They are essentially making it against the law for people who are worth $9.50 to have a job.
Also, demand for labor in that sector will decrease, further squeezing them out. I LOLd at the guy holding the sign demanding a $15 wage...it was in Spanish. He was basically asking the council to outlaw his ability to work.
To the degree that any of this affects the economy is related to how close the wage is to equilibrium. In the past I suspect minimum wage was close to equilibrium and the increases in the wage we small so the affect wasn't dramatic. This increase seems much larger is the affects could be more pronounced.
Seattle also has a fairly strong economy that can absorb some of this, but I think the bottom line is a bot of people who think they are getting a raise will get a big fat zero.Line
Leave Mrs Blitzkrieg out of this.
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Oh thumb yourself blitz
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TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Pictures of Mrs. Blitzkrieg's big fat zero or get the fuck out.dnc said:MikeDamone said:They think they are helping the workers making $9.50 an hour and what will happen will all of those people will simply make more. The reality is some off them might, but at $15 the labor supply will grow and there will be more competition for those jobs. The pool people will be better educated, better communication skills (I.e. They speak English) and will take the jobs from those that this is meant to help. They are essentially making it against the law for people who are worth $9.50 to have a job.
Also, demand for labor in that sector will decrease, further squeezing them out. I LOLd at the guy holding the sign demanding a $15 wage...it was in Spanish. He was basically asking the council to outlaw his ability to work.
To the degree that any of this affects the economy is related to how close the wage is to equilibrium. In the past I suspect minimum wage was close to equilibrium and the increases in the wage we small so the affect wasn't dramatic. This increase seems much larger is the affects could be more pronounced.
Seattle also has a fairly strong economy that can absorb some of this, but I think the bottom line is a bot of people who think they are getting a raise will get a big fat zero.Line
Leave Mrs Blitzkrieg out of this.
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That whole story is great. For one, the teacher is pretty hot which helps the story. The kid is a dumbass for running his mouth, but the best part of the story is the teacher flipped out on the kid for taking a high school girl to the prom.priapism said:Teachers make $80K in New York, productivity appears up:
nydailynews.com/new-york/queens/queens-gym-teacher-raped-16-year-old-wrestler-school-prosecutors-article-1.1815445
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made up. come on man. that sounded like one of those manufactured facebook stories.topdawgnc said:unitedliberty.org/articles/17751-warning-to-seattle-seatac-businesses-slashing-benefits-overtime-in-wake-of-wage-hike
Are you happy with the $15 wage?” I asked the full-time cleaning lady.
“It sounds good, but it’s not good,” the woman said.
“Why?” I asked.
“I lost my 401k, health insurance, paid holiday, and vacation,” she responded. “No more free food,” she added.
The hotel used to feed her. Now, she has to bring her own food. Also, no overtime, she said. She used to work extra hours and received overtime pay.
What else? I asked.
“I have to pay for parking,” she said.
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HRYK. I'm supposed to believe a female gym teacher is straight? GTFO of here with this bullshit.creepycoug said:
made up. come on man. that sounded like one of those manufactured facebook stories.topdawgnc said:unitedliberty.org/articles/17751-warning-to-seattle-seatac-businesses-slashing-benefits-overtime-in-wake-of-wage-hike
Are you happy with the $15 wage?” I asked the full-time cleaning lady.
“It sounds good, but it’s not good,” the woman said.
“Why?” I asked.
“I lost my 401k, health insurance, paid holiday, and vacation,” she responded. “No more free food,” she added.
The hotel used to feed her. Now, she has to bring her own food. Also, no overtime, she said. She used to work extra hours and received overtime pay.
What else? I asked.
“I have to pay for parking,” she said.
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disagree. that's just more bourgeois mythology fabricated and regurgitated to entrench the status quo for those who control the means of production. fuck, can you just not move on from your econ 202 class? what's it been? 30 years? read another fucking book or drink more of those cocktails you used to ramble on about. you were a lot more fun back then.MikeDamone said:
I've had that conversation. They use a false argument that more money for people to spend will be multiplied and help the economy. It's false because productivity has not changed and they may be taking money that could be used for capital investment. Those are the true drivers of growth. Not consumption. (This is why it's not a zero sum game) And even if it is spent by these people, it has no better benefit than if the owners, executives and managers spent it.CuntWaffle said:I just dont know why they stopped at 15.... Should just go to 50. More money equals a better economy and happier people. Fact.
So if you extend their argument out that if $15 is good, why not $50 or $100, they say no one is talking about a wage that high and it's hyperbole. But what they deny or are too dumb to grasp is the same economic models that make $50 ridiculous, apply to $15 and hour. The intuitively know that $50 is too much, but have an arbitrary number in their head they think will work. The question isn't if the wage will be out of equilibrium, but by how much, and how much is acceptable to them? How many people are they willing to hurt in order to help others? That is not compassion, that's using the force of government to coerce people to forward their socialist agenda. It's easy to feign compassion with other peoples money. It makes you look like a fucking hero at cocktail parties and the reception area of the youth symphony ( hi collegedoog).
and while you're at it, why don't you lay off the blind people and the retards. they've never done a fucking thing to you. i mean, what kind of mother fucker lies in waiting for a seeing eye dog to take a shit on a plane so he can make a federal case out of it? prick. -
Ever notice every single time the teacher is attractive too. I don't get it. It's not like she is homely and can't get laid from someone her age or at least some boy toy who is legal age. Why the fuck they feel the need to fuck some 16 year old I never did get it.CuntWaffle said:
Where the fuck were these teachers when I was in school?priapism said:Teachers make $80K in New York, productivity appears up:
nydailynews.com/new-york/queens/queens-gym-teacher-raped-16-year-old-wrestler-school-prosecutors-article-1.1815445
Also yes if I was 16 and any of these teachers who constantly get busted for this wanted to have sex with me I would willing do so.
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Any Seattle people here ever hear the rumors from about 5 years ago of a Garfield teacher fucking students, and then being let go in a big hush hush. Just what I'm hearing.
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Agree - if I had a willing teacher like this, I would take her down to Saltwater State Park and give her the fucking HBI on a nightly basisHe_Needs_More_Time said:
Ever notice every single time the teacher is attractive too. I don't get it. It's not like she is homely and can't get laid from someone her age or at least some boy toy who is legal age. Why the fuck they feel the need to fuck some 16 year old I never did get it.CuntWaffle said:
Where the fuck were these teachers when I was in school?priapism said:Teachers make $80K in New York, productivity appears up:
nydailynews.com/new-york/queens/queens-gym-teacher-raped-16-year-old-wrestler-school-prosecutors-article-1.1815445
Also yes if I was 16 and any of these teachers who constantly get busted for this wanted to have sex with me I would willing do so.
FYFMFE
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Without fail every one of these teachers are always hot. I don't get why they feel the need to fuck teenage boys when they can easily pick up some dude at a bar, at the gym or wherever.unfrozencaveman said:
Agree - if I had a willing teacher like this, I would take her down to Saltwater State Park and give her the fucking HBI on a nightly basisHe_Needs_More_Time said:
Ever notice every single time the teacher is attractive too. I don't get it. It's not like she is homely and can't get laid from someone her age or at least some boy toy who is legal age. Why the fuck they feel the need to fuck some 16 year old I never did get it.CuntWaffle said:
Where the fuck were these teachers when I was in school?priapism said:Teachers make $80K in New York, productivity appears up:
nydailynews.com/new-york/queens/queens-gym-teacher-raped-16-year-old-wrestler-school-prosecutors-article-1.1815445
Also yes if I was 16 and any of these teachers who constantly get busted for this wanted to have sex with me I would willing do so.
FYFMFE
EDIT: Just looked up how that Mary Kay bitch ended up marrying that dude. What a fuck show that is.
Oh and obvious daddy issues too.
In 1982, her father's political career was severely damaged when it was revealed that he had fathered two children out of wedlock during an affair with a former student at Santa Ana College, where he had taught political science.[10] Her father's affair caused her parents to separate, but they later reconciled. According to friends, Mary Kay felt betrayed and thought her mother was a cold person who "drove him to it" by denying her father affection.[11][12]
Letourneau was arrested in Tukwila, Washington, a Seattle suburb in King County, on January 4, 2014 on a failure to appear warrant after being arrested for driving without a license -
Maybe, just maybe, they're attracted to their victims and not to some sweatpants wearing, dickless, mommy boys at the strip club. Ever think about that Moar_cuckold? Why don't you take out your nub of a cock and wiggle it around, try to forget your weasily little life.
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