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  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,461 Founders Club
    Trump in a tight one because all the poles are bullshit.
    Houhusky said:

    If there are no undecided voters left why are the polls tightening? Either they have been bullshit or people are still deciding

    Science

    Before Aristotle there was Plato and before Plato there was @RaceBannon
    This made me grin IRL - bigly.
  • HoustonHusky
    HoustonHusky Member Posts: 5,999
    Biden in a contested election because Barrett isn't seated and Roberts is a giant faggot.
    I was almost coming around to thinking Trump might pull this out and then I read shite like this and realize the nutjob left are going to lie, cheat, and steal this election.

  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,883 Founders Club
    Trump in a tight one because all the poles are bullshit.

    I was almost coming around to thinking Trump might pull this out and then I read shite like this and realize the nutjob left are going to lie, cheat, and steal this election.

    My guess is they know the youth and Black vote is staying home so they need to go ahead and vote for them. Since they would have voted for Biden it really isn't even cheating
  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,662
    Biden, but much closer than the poles predicted because polesters are charlatans.

    I was almost coming around to thinking Trump might pull this out and then I read shite like this and realize the nutjob left are going to lie, cheat, and steal this election.

    My guess is they know the youth and Black vote is staying home so they need to go ahead and vote for them. Since they would have voted for Biden it really isn't even cheating
    Yep
  • thechatch
    thechatch Member Posts: 7,226 Standard Supporter
    Biden in a contested election because Barrett isn't seated and Roberts is a giant faggot.
    The fix is in
  • Houhusky
    Houhusky Member Posts: 5,537
    Biden in a landslide. Big orange dummy finally bested by geriatric creeper.
  • Houhusky
    Houhusky Member Posts: 5,537
    Biden in a landslide. Big orange dummy finally bested by geriatric creeper.
  • LebamDawg
    LebamDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,787 Swaye's Wigwam
    Biden, but much closer than the poles predicted because polesters are charlatans.
    Have deadlines? most state supremes are throwing all the rules out. no such thing as a deadline anymore
  • Houhusky
    Houhusky Member Posts: 5,537
    Biden in a landslide. Big orange dummy finally bested by geriatric creeper.
  • Houhusky
    Houhusky Member Posts: 5,537
    Biden in a landslide. Big orange dummy finally bested by geriatric creeper.
    The corruption in Philly sure looks like its going to be too much.

    Best case is ACB on the court on Monday, goes to the supreme court, struck down the same week... Even then, if they are openly accepting non matched ballots they will just do it anyways.

    Trump will have to win MI, WI, AZ if he drops PA.

    AZ easy pickup as long as nothing big happens, Maybe WI is actually in play looking at the party breakdown of mail in and early voting...
  • LebamDawg
    LebamDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,787 Swaye's Wigwam
    Biden, but much closer than the poles predicted because polesters are charlatans.
    One of the most telling items I have read on polling, which I can not find right now, is that 50% of likely voters that have stated Biden are folks that are anti-Trump not pro Biden.

    So if the Red at 41% even has 10% that are voting Biden that puts advantage Biden in Wiscy.

    Unfortunately we will never know that answer - do they ever give out the number of registered voters that voted against their own party?

    but then I could be blowing it out my ass which Mrs Lebam says happens way too often
  • Houhusky
    Houhusky Member Posts: 5,537
    Biden in a landslide. Big orange dummy finally bested by geriatric creeper.
    LebamDawg said:

    One of the most telling items I have read on polling, which I can not find right now, is that 50% of likely voters that have stated Biden are folks that are anti-Trump not pro Biden.

    So if the Red at 41% even has 10% that are voting Biden that puts advantage Biden in Wiscy.

    Unfortunately we will never know that answer - do they ever give out the number of registered voters that voted against their own party?

    but then I could be blowing it out my ass which Mrs Lebam says happens way too often

    most small timer models are pushing a crude 5% republican for Biden, 10% dem for Trump.

    It varies a few percentages with state, age, demographic, voting frequency and a bunch of other stuff... pretty subjective variable in the model...

    Most are taking the general idea that if you voted for Trump in 2016, you are probably voting for him again.
  • LebamDawg
    LebamDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,787 Swaye's Wigwam
    Biden, but much closer than the poles predicted because polesters are charlatans.
    Houhusky said:

    LebamDawg said:

    One of the most telling items I have read on polling, which I can not find right now, is that 50% of likely voters that have stated Biden are folks that are anti-Trump not pro Biden.

    So if the Red at 41% even has 10% that are voting Biden that puts advantage Biden in Wiscy.

    Unfortunately we will never know that answer - do they ever give out the number of registered voters that voted against their own party?

    but then I could be blowing it out my ass which Mrs Lebam says happens way too often

    most small timer models are pushing a crude 5% republican for Biden, 10% dem for Trump.

    It varies a few percentages with state, age, demographic, voting frequency and a bunch of other stuff... pretty subjective variable in the model...

    Most are taking the general idea that if you voted for Trump in 2016, you are probably voting for him again.
    so kind of a SWAG
  • Houhusky
    Houhusky Member Posts: 5,537
    Biden in a landslide. Big orange dummy finally bested by geriatric creeper.
    LebamDawg said:

    Houhusky said:

    LebamDawg said:

    One of the most telling items I have read on polling, which I can not find right now, is that 50% of likely voters that have stated Biden are folks that are anti-Trump not pro Biden.

    So if the Red at 41% even has 10% that are voting Biden that puts advantage Biden in Wiscy.

    Unfortunately we will never know that answer - do they ever give out the number of registered voters that voted against their own party?

    but then I could be blowing it out my ass which Mrs Lebam says happens way too often

    most small timer models are pushing a crude 5% republican for Biden, 10% dem for Trump.

    It varies a few percentages with state, age, demographic, voting frequency and a bunch of other stuff... pretty subjective variable in the model...

    Most are taking the general idea that if you voted for Trump in 2016, you are probably voting for him again.
    so kind of a SWAG
    yeah, a small one and one that will likely favor republicans this time around.
  • HoustonHusky
    HoustonHusky Member Posts: 5,999
    edited October 2020
    Biden in a contested election because Barrett isn't seated and Roberts is a giant faggot.
    Repubs voted Trump 95% in the primary...one of the highest % for a candidate running for reelection. There are some Repubs that won’t vote for him, but it’s not a significant amount.

    They are going to really have to cheat in Philly...the rest of the state is much more favorable to Trump this time around. It is going to be egregious, and they still will likely get away with it.

    If Trump wins Wisconsin and Minnesota it won’t matter, but that is asking a lot.
  • DJDuck
    DJDuck Member Posts: 5,970
    Trump will win this relatively easy.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,072
    edited October 2020
    Trump wins this thing and it isn't close! Dementia never even got its' boots on...

    I still feel good about my prediction. I’m also happy to be moving to Idaho next weekend before Washington burns.

    The 509 is safe. Just higher gas prices.

    The fire line will be at Vantage. No winter burning East of that.
  • EsophagealFeces
    EsophagealFeces Member Posts: 13,158
    Trump wins this thing and it isn't close! Dementia never even got its' boots on...

    I still feel good about my prediction. I’m also happy to be moving to Idaho next weekend before Washington burns.

    The 509 is safe. Just higher gas prices.

    The fire line will be at Vantage. No winter burning East of that.
    Lewis county will probably be fine too. The rest of the I-5 corridor could be a shitshow tho.
  • LebamDawg
    LebamDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,787 Swaye's Wigwam
    Biden, but much closer than the poles predicted because polesters are charlatans.

    I still feel good about my prediction. I’m also happy to be moving to Idaho next weekend before Washington burns.

    The 509 is safe. Just higher gas prices.

    The fire line will be at Vantage. No winter burning East of that.
    Lewis county will probably be fine too. The rest of the I-5 corridor could be a shitshow tho.
    I hope so - I am 15 miles past Pe Ell in Pacific county. If Lewis falls, the Willapa Valley is close behind
  • thechatch
    thechatch Member Posts: 7,226 Standard Supporter
    Biden in a contested election because Barrett isn't seated and Roberts is a giant faggot.
    I live in Bellevue and Saturday night’s little tantrum was barely felt. The carnage will be concentrated in DT Seattle.

    Boats with trump flags out all over Juanita Bay in Saturday around lunch time.
  • Houhusky
    Houhusky Member Posts: 5,537
    Biden in a landslide. Big orange dummy finally bested by geriatric creeper.
    Tiny sample size, Philly ballot laundering is off the charts, no chance in PA.

    Trump is going to have to win WI, MI, AZ
  • NorthwestFresh
    NorthwestFresh Member Posts: 7,972
    Houhusky said:

    Tiny sample size, Philly ballot laundering is off the charts, no chance in PA.

    Trump is going to have to win WI, MI, AZ
    Trump has PA rather easily, but thar’s just my gut.

    A sample size of 400 is large for a single state like PA. Most national polls sample ~1000 out of 340 million people. 400 in PA, which has less than 13 million citizens.

    Statistically, the PA poll should be more accurate than any national poll.
  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,090 Founders Club
    Trump in a tight one because all the poles are bullshit.

    Houhusky said:

    Tiny sample size, Philly ballot laundering is off the charts, no chance in PA.

    Trump is going to have to win WI, MI, AZ
    Trump has PA rather easily, but thar’s just my gut.

    A sample size of 400 is large for a single state like PA. Most national polls sample ~1000 out of 340 million people. 400 in PA, which has less than 13 million citizens.

    Statistically, the PA poll should be more accurate than any national poll.
    Any sample size above 30 should be statistically relevant IF it is random enough in its sample selection.
  • HoustonHusky
    HoustonHusky Member Posts: 5,999
    Biden in a contested election because Barrett isn't seated and Roberts is a giant faggot.
    The rest of Penn is going harder for Trump this time than 4 years ago...even the African American vote is trending more his way. It really is going to be how many ballots they can print in Philly and print with no signatures to see if they can magically get them counted.
  • LoneStarDawg
    LoneStarDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 13,681 Founders Club
    Trump in a contested election that the SCOTUS (by SCOTUS I mean Barrett) decides.
    In a weird way a strong black vote for trump could heal quite a bit nationally. Unless CNN wants to call 30M people uncle toms
  • BleachedAnusDawg
    BleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 13,224 Standard Supporter
    Biden in a landslide. Big orange dummy finally bested by geriatric creeper.
    Played around with an electoral map today. Nothing groundbreaking in my analysis, but I think PA and NC are keys. And if Trump loses one of Michigan and Wisconsin he has to win both PA and NC to win re-election. Just my two cents.
  • Houhusky
    Houhusky Member Posts: 5,537
    Biden in a landslide. Big orange dummy finally bested by geriatric creeper.

    The rest of Penn is going harder for Trump this time than 4 years ago...even the African American vote is trending more his way. It really is going to be how many ballots they can print in Philly and print with no signatures to see if they can magically get them counted.

    Some PosiMAGAs do not see the table that is being set...



    NateSilver ejecting the last +Trump favorite pollster (Trafalger) from his very popular "538 modeling" and hinting at all the plus biden polls only being wrong IF trump cheats...

    They are setting the table to create the reality they wish for...