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  • WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 16,741 Standard Supporter
    edited October 2020


    https://peckford42.wordpress.com/2019/08/09/one-wind-turbine-takes-900-tons-of-steel-2500-tons-of-concrete-45-tons-of-plastic/


    One Wind Turbine Takes 900 Tons of Steel , 2500 Tons Of Concrete , 45 Tons of Plastic!

    AUGUST 9, 2019 / BRIANPECKFORD
    From WSJ

    If You Want ‘Renewable Energy,’ Get Ready to Dig

    By Mark P. Mills
    Aug. 5, 2019 6:48 pm ET

    Democrats dream of powering society entirely with wind and solar farms combined with massive batteries. Realizing this dream would require the biggest expansion in mining the world has seen and would produce huge quantities of waste.

    “Renewable energy” is a misnomer. Wind and solar machines and batteries are built from nonrenewable materials. And they wear out. Old equipment must be decommissioned, generating millions of tons of waste.

    The International Renewable Energy Agency calculates that solar goals for 2050 consistent with the Paris Accords will result in old-panel disposal constituting more than double the tonnage of all today’s global plastic waste.

    Consider some other sobering numbers:

    A single electric-car battery weighs about 1,000 pounds. Fabricating one requires digging up, moving and processing more than 500,000 pounds of raw materials somewhere on the planet. The alternative? Use gasoline and extract one-tenth as much total tonnage to deliver the same number of vehicle-miles over the battery’s seven-year life.

  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 35,911 Standard Supporter
    Wind and solar can't do it. We are covering large areas with solar panels that get really hot. Global warming? Kali has solar panels galore, solar plants etc. and blackouts, rolling blackouts, brownouts and not enough fucking electricity.
  • doogiedoogie Member Posts: 15,072
    edited October 2020
  • EsophagealFecesEsophagealFeces Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,784 Swaye's Wigwam
    RoadTrip said:

    Fuck, when the civil war hits you'll have tons of fun
    I believe the technical term is “target rich environment”.
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,846

    He's not doing anything if elected aside from enjoying a pudding.
    True. He would be, from my reckoning, the most 'figurehead' POTUS in US history. 100% of the real work would be done by unelected cabinet appointees.
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 35,911 Standard Supporter
    Swaye said:

    BIGLY. Uncle Race and I have had long philosophical talks on this. My Dad (RIP), who was a licensed Master Electrician (IBEW the works) for 50 years saw all this developing 20 years ago and the pay scales going up as the pool of certified and qualified applicants went down. He said "Son, one day in the not too distant future electricians are going to get lawyer pay, while lawyers get electrician pay." Smart man my Dad. We've got a billion ambulance chasers at 40 and below. We have a handful of Master Electricians. You do the math.

    Before I retired from the Navy nuclear grade welders in the shipyards were making 200K a year because there aren't any of them and nobody even joins up in apprenticeship programs anymore. Way cooler to be a barista at Starbucks with your Che shirt on making 12 bucks an hour instead of getting dirty, spending years gaining serious skills, and making big money in the skilled labor trades for your troubles. Millennials are such faggots.
    Killing police work. Of course everyone only having Dazzler level common sense is the underlying problem to all this shit.
  • theknowledgetheknowledge Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 5,348 Founders Club

    One of my kids completed a 2 year program in the trades. He's making bank. Not massive bank yet - he's only a year or so into his career - but enough that he bought a new vehicle, can afford to pay for his food and housing and a moderate amount left over for some recreational intoxicants and the occasional hooker.

    He'll be making almost double than his siblings within five years. Maybe more.

    But but sociology and English Lit and history/poli-sci.



    My daughters are 8 and 5. My wife and I have talked about trades for our daughters since they were born. Degrees from college are hardly worth what they are printed on. Electricians, plumbers, welders, mechanics, carpenters? Who cares. They make bank. Money talks and being women they can write their own ticket in the unions with a little want to and hard work. They will not be allowed to go to college, live at home and then tell me what a piece of shit I am for being white. Nope. Learn to do something, work with your hands and be creative while making a great living and not living in my house.
  • TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 20,011

    True. He would be, from my reckoning, the most 'figurehead' POTUS in US history. 100% of the real work would be done by unelected cabinet appointees.
    And in a nutshell this is why I can’t vote for Biden
  • TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 20,011
    College degrees have value ...

    But if you’re going through the motions and aren’t really good at the whole education thing ... you aren’t going to get magically better after graduation
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,846
    edited October 2020

    My daughters are 8 and 5. My wife and I have talked about trades for our daughters since they were born. Degrees from college are hardly worth what they are printed on. Electricians, plumbers, welders, mechanics, carpenters? Who cares. They make bank. Money talks and being women they can write their own ticket in the unions with a little want to and hard work. They will not be allowed to go to college, live at home and then tell me what a piece of shit I am for being white. Nope. Learn to do something, work with your hands and be creative while making a great living and not living in my house.
    I know we're on a roll here with this, and none of you are entirely wrong. But there are some pretty gross generalizations being bantied [sp?] about here with which I don't entirely agree.

    I'm 7 mos. away from all three of mine being college educated, and with a clear mind have zero regrets about it. Oldest is employed and making good money and learning important job skills. The middle one turned down several good offers and is in grad school and I'm confident will be making more than I make in just a few years. The youngest is interviewing with firms now. Their majors are/were English, Pscyh/Econ, Astronomy/Physics, and the middle one is in grad school for applied mathematics and statistics.

    I'm not shitting on the trades or what's been said here about them, but there are many good and well paying jobs you can't have w/o college. And for every college-educated underpaid barista, there is a 58 year old guy whose body is wearing out and struggling to keep doing his trade job. I'm guessin that most of them are not going to run their own business and have others do the work. It's a little more complicated than it seems and not everybody is cut out to do it.

    And for daughters in particular, I'd think three times before sending them into the trades. Call me sexist. It's true; I am.
  • Bob_CBob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,945 Swaye's Wigwam
    edited October 2020
    Houhusky said:

    You aren't wrong, but it wont be Biden handling anything.

    Thats why there is a precarious alliance between all the factions of the left to prop him up, they think they will be the one to control him.

    How do you end up with a candidate that both Wall street and economic radicals like Bernie Bros support?

    Why do you think that the FBI, CIA, political generals love Biden over Trumps objectively successful foreign policy?

    Kamala, AOC, BLM are salivating at the idea of an impotent "leader" they will be able to do anything in the name of racial justice.

    Mega Corporations and liberals that are supposed to hate mega corporations both support Biden?

    Big Tech loves that they are going to be asked to write their own legislation to control the industry with Biden.

    Every country outside of Poland and Israel will be significantly happier with an impotent Biden and return to standard of ripping off American tax payers.
    I honestly dont think Kamala gives a fuck about racial justice. Her record shows that. It’s a means to power for her. The shit show is going to be the reconciliation between all these competing interests on the left, they all think they are going to be in charge when the dust settles. But inevitably some are going to be left out of having real authority, which is all they crave in the end.
  • doogiedoogie Member Posts: 15,072

    True. He would be, from my reckoning, the most 'figurehead' POTUS in US history. 100% of the real work would be done by unelected cabinet appointees.
    #teamJoe
  • rustysavagerustysavage Member Posts: 942

    I know we're on a roll here with this, and none of you are entirely wrong. But there are some pretty gross generalizations being bantied [sp?] about here with which I don't entirely agree.

    I'm 7 mos. away from all three of mine being college educated, and with a clear mind have zero regrets about it. Oldest is employed and making good money and learning important job skills. The middle one turned down several good offers and is in grad school and I'm confident will be making more than I make in just a few years. The youngest is interviewing with firms now. Their majors are/were English, Pscyh/Econ, Astronomy/Physics, and the middle one is in grad school for applied mathematics and statistics.

    I'm not shitting on the trades or what's been said here about them, but there are many good and well paying jobs you can't have w/o college. And for every college-educated underpaid barista, there is a 58 year old guy whose body is wearing out and struggling to keep doing his trade job. I'm guessin that most of them are not going to run their own business and have others do the work. It's a little more complicated than it seems and not everybody is cut out to do it.

    And for daughters in particular, I'd think three times before sending them into the trades. Call me sexist. It's true; I am.
    True on all accounts, but the trades have an early retirement program for the guys who crap out too soon physically. it's called becoming an inspector, preferably for a crappy "city" like Longview or somethin.
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