I think people are dreaming if they believe this Duck team is going to win the Conference
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I’m a dreamer Bob. Who is better?
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Any team with more continuity. Teams that are able to execute due to the experience they have with the system they've been running. Ducks will be a better team by the end of the season but they are going to stumble coming out of the gate.
I want to be wrong but I just don't see them winning the conference. If they wouldn't of had any defections off the Defense I think the D could have carried them for the first few games but there will be some growing pains on that side of the ball as well.
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With all due respect Bob let me push back a little bit Bob. 1st the OL.......of course it is a concern and yes they have a lot of talent. The last time I remember the Ducks replacing the entire OL was 2009. That was the year we lost to Boise State in our 1st game. That team came together, won the Conference, went 10-3, and went to the rose Bowl ranked #11.
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Please do push back. Here's what I see. A new o-line isn't able to open holes for the running game forcing the new QB to throw more than they want to and they also aren't able to protect the qb in passing situations.DJDuck said:With all due respect Bob let me push back a little bit Bob. 1st the OL.......of course it is a concern and yes they have a lot of talent. The last time I remember the Ducks replacing the entire OL was 2009. That was the year we lost to Boise State in our 1st game. That team came together, won the Conference, went 10-3, and went to the rose Bowl ranked #11.
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As far as the secondary, losing Holland, Graham and Breeze I hurts. However we still have Lenoir and Pickett who started a lot of games. At the other corner we have Wright or Dontae Manning who really have more talent than Graham IMO but lack the experience. Hill, Stephens and Williams are going to be great safeties. Bennett Williams started as a freshman at Illinois and was named to the national Freshman All American team.
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At QB Shough is going to be good but he may not start
He is battling Anthony Brown a 3 year starter at Boston College
Here are Brown’s stats:
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Our defensive line is great and has probably the best DE end in college football
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And our linebackers are most likely the best group in cleve football. Tbere are linebackers on our team that would be starters a d stars on other power 5 teams.
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Other than Penei this OL is more talented than the one that graduated. It would have been nice to have a non conference schedule for them to come together as a group. It is what it is. We shall see.SFGbob said:
Please do push back. Here's what I see. A new o-line isn't able to open holes for the running game forcing the new QB to throw more than they want to and they also aren't able to protect the qb in passing situations.DJDuck said:With all due respect Bob let me push back a little bit Bob. 1st the OL.......of course it is a concern and yes they have a lot of talent. The last time I remember the Ducks replacing the entire OL was 2009. That was the year we lost to Boise State in our 1st game. That team came together, won the Conference, went 10-3, and went to the rose Bowl ranked #11.
BTW there are several of these linemen that have actually started for the Ducks at one time or another. 😊
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They may have more talent but they have far less experience. Hope I'm wrong.DJDuck said:
Other than Penei this OL is more talented than the one that graduated. It would have been nice to have a non conference schedule for them to come together as a group. It is what it is. We shall see.SFGbob said:
Please do push back. Here's what I see. A new o-line isn't able to open holes for the running game forcing the new QB to throw more than they want to and they also aren't able to protect the qb in passing situations.DJDuck said:With all due respect Bob let me push back a little bit Bob. 1st the OL.......of course it is a concern and yes they have a lot of talent. The last time I remember the Ducks replacing the entire OL was 2009. That was the year we lost to Boise State in our 1st game. That team came together, won the Conference, went 10-3, and went to the rose Bowl ranked #11.
BTW there are several of these linemen that have actually started for the Ducks at one time or another. 😊 -
You’re right BobSFGbob said:
PDJDuck said:
Other than Penei this OL is more talented than the one that graduated. It would have been nice to have a non conference schedule for them to come together as a group. It is what it is. We shall see.SFGbob said:
Please do push back. Here's what I see. A new o-line isn't able to open holes for the running game forcing the new QB to throw more than they want to and they also aren't able to protect the qb in passing situations.DJDuck said:With all due respect Bob let me push back a little bit Bob. 1st the OL.......of course it is a concern and yes they have a lot of talent. The last time I remember the Ducks replacing the entire OL was 2009. That was the year we lost to Boise State in our 1st game. That team came together, won the Conference, went 10-3, and went to the rose Bowl ranked #11.
BTW there are several of these linemen that have actually started for the Ducks at one time or another. 😊
They may have more talent but they have far less experience. Hope I'm wrong.
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We do have the most experienced and successful QB in th PAC 12 by far though. 😁
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I appreciate Bob’s concern. I have a lot of faith in the coaches and the culture of the program. That is why some programs perform at a top level with regular turnover.
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The Pac-12 sucks. That is
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I would say “dreaming” is an overstatement.
They’ve got as good a shot as anybody because the conference is garbage.
Every team in the conference has a problem.
O line is the key issue as you say, particularly in pass blocking, which really takes time.
On D, the Dooks are mostly right. But they’ll miss Graham, because he was a seasoned and smart corner. Wright is crazy talented and got playing time, so he’ll help a lot. Lenoir opted back in. You gotta hope neither of those two get hurt. They’ll clearly miss Dye, as well as Carlberg, the latter being somewhat underrated in my book. But they have a lot of talent coming back on the D line and linebacker.
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Calcreepycoug said:I would say “dreaming” is an overstatement.
They’ve got as good a shot as anybody because the conference is garbage.
Every team in the conference has a problem.
O line is the key issue as you say, particularly in pass blocking, which really takes time.
On D, the Dooks are mostly right. But they’ll miss Graham, because he was a seasoned and smart corner. Wright is crazy talented and got playing time, so he’ll help a lot. Lenoir opted back in. You gotta hope neither of those two get hurt. They’ll clearly miss Dye, as well as Carlberg, the latter being somewhat underrated in my book. But they have a lot of talent coming back on the D line and linebacker.
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Cal WAY too high. And sans Rosey Cheeks on D?RaceBannon said:
Calcreepycoug said:I would say “dreaming” is an overstatement.
They’ve got as good a shot as anybody because the conference is garbage.
Every team in the conference has a problem.
O line is the key issue as you say, particularly in pass blocking, which really takes time.
On D, the Dooks are mostly right. But they’ll miss Graham, because he was a seasoned and smart corner. Wright is crazy talented and got playing time, so he’ll help a lot. Lenoir opted back in. You gotta hope neither of those two get hurt. They’ll clearly miss Dye, as well as Carlberg, the latter being somewhat underrated in my book. But they have a lot of talent coming back on the D line and linebacker.
Clear favorite? No. But who is?
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Agree with you about Carlberg. He was one of those journeymen recruits that ended up having a solid college career especially his senior year. Shows the value in experience over raw talent.creepycoug said:I would say “dreaming” is an overstatement.
They’ve got as good a shot as anybody because the conference is garbage.
Every team in the conference has a problem.
O line is the key issue as you say, particularly in pass blocking, which really takes time.
On D, the Dooks are mostly right. But they’ll miss Graham, because he was a seasoned and smart corner. Wright is crazy talented and got playing time, so he’ll help a lot. Lenoir opted back in. You gotta hope neither of those two get hurt. They’ll clearly miss Dye, as well as Carlberg, the latter being somewhat underrated in my book. But they have a lot of talent coming back on the D line and linebacker.
Clear favorite? No. But who is? -
But that's your dumb fuck fan base man. Those Biden bots need another 70 or two to clear the cobwebs.SFGbob said:Brand new O line. New QB, New O coordinator and a mostly new secondary. I don't care about how talented these newcomers may be, believing this team is just going to roll is pretty foolish.
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Cal beats UW, UW beats Oregon
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Sweet Geezus dude, you're a part of fan base that still thinks UW is a superior football program than Oregon. Heal yourself fool.haie said:
But that's your dumb fuck fan base man. Those Biden bots need another 70 or two to clear the cobwebs.SFGbob said:Brand new O line. New QB, New O coordinator and a mostly new secondary. I don't care about how talented these newcomers may be, believing this team is just going to roll is pretty foolish.
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A reasonable UO fan take.SFGbob said:Brand new O line. New QB, New O coordinator and a mostly new secondary. I don't care about how talented these newcomers may be, believing this team is just going to roll is pretty foolish.
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This is where the scheduling really helps Oregon.SFGbob said:
They may have more talent but they have far less experience. Hope I'm wrong.DJDuck said:
Other than Penei this OL is more talented than the one that graduated. It would have been nice to have a non conference schedule for them to come together as a group. It is what it is. We shall see.SFGbob said:
Please do push back. Here's what I see. A new o-line isn't able to open holes for the running game forcing the new QB to throw more than they want to and they also aren't able to protect the qb in passing situations.DJDuck said:With all due respect Bob let me push back a little bit Bob. 1st the OL.......of course it is a concern and yes they have a lot of talent. The last time I remember the Ducks replacing the entire OL was 2009. That was the year we lost to Boise State in our 1st game. That team came together, won the Conference, went 10-3, and went to the rose Bowl ranked #11.
BTW there are several of these linemen that have actually started for the Ducks at one time or another. 😊
Stanford (Home)
WSU (Away)
UCLA (Home)
OSU (Away)
They get four cupcakes before Cal and Washington. With decent coaching, you'd think 4 games is enough time to get a lot of things ironed out on the offensive line before the 2 game season starts. -
UW beats Cal, Cal beats Oregon, Oregon beats UW.RaceBannon said:Cal beats UW, UW beats Oregon
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If Leech were still in town, the road game at Coug would loom large. I wonder what's left of that pile of shit over in Pulltab now that they've been jilted by the Pirate for Mississippi Fucking State.greenblood said:
This is where the scheduling really helps Oregon.SFGbob said:
They may have more talent but they have far less experience. Hope I'm wrong.DJDuck said:
Other than Penei this OL is more talented than the one that graduated. It would have been nice to have a non conference schedule for them to come together as a group. It is what it is. We shall see.SFGbob said:
Please do push back. Here's what I see. A new o-line isn't able to open holes for the running game forcing the new QB to throw more than they want to and they also aren't able to protect the qb in passing situations.DJDuck said:With all due respect Bob let me push back a little bit Bob. 1st the OL.......of course it is a concern and yes they have a lot of talent. The last time I remember the Ducks replacing the entire OL was 2009. That was the year we lost to Boise State in our 1st game. That team came together, won the Conference, went 10-3, and went to the rose Bowl ranked #11.
BTW there are several of these linemen that have actually started for the Ducks at one time or another. 😊
Stanford (Home)
WSU (Away)
UCLA (Home)
OSU (Away)
They get four cupcakes before Cal and Washington. With decent coaching, you'd think 4 games is enough time to get a lot of things ironed out on the offensive line before the 2 game season starts. -
Exactly, which is why I moved this to the cupcake categorycreepycoug said:
If Leech were still in town, the road game at Coug would loom large. I wonder what's left of that pile of shit over in Pulltab now that they've been jilted by the Pirate for Mississippi Fucking State.greenblood said:
This is where the scheduling really helps Oregon.SFGbob said:
They may have more talent but they have far less experience. Hope I'm wrong.DJDuck said:
Other than Penei this OL is more talented than the one that graduated. It would have been nice to have a non conference schedule for them to come together as a group. It is what it is. We shall see.SFGbob said:
Please do push back. Here's what I see. A new o-line isn't able to open holes for the running game forcing the new QB to throw more than they want to and they also aren't able to protect the qb in passing situations.DJDuck said:With all due respect Bob let me push back a little bit Bob. 1st the OL.......of course it is a concern and yes they have a lot of talent. The last time I remember the Ducks replacing the entire OL was 2009. That was the year we lost to Boise State in our 1st game. That team came together, won the Conference, went 10-3, and went to the rose Bowl ranked #11.
BTW there are several of these linemen that have actually started for the Ducks at one time or another. 😊
Stanford (Home)
WSU (Away)
UCLA (Home)
OSU (Away)
They get four cupcakes before Cal and Washington. With decent coaching, you'd think 4 games is enough time to get a lot of things ironed out on the offensive line before the 2 game season starts. -
greenblood said:
Exactly, which is why I moved this to the cupcake categorycreepycoug said:
If Leech were still in town, the road game at Coug would loom large. I wonder what's left of that pile of shit over in Pulltab now that they've been jilted by the Pirate for Mississippi Fucking State.greenblood said:
This is where the scheduling really helps Oregon.SFGbob said:
They may have more talent but they have far less experience. Hope I'm wrong.DJDuck said:
Other than Penei this OL is more talented than the one that graduated. It would have been nice to have a non conference schedule for them to come together as a group. It is what it is. We shall see.SFGbob said:
Please do push back. Here's what I see. A new o-line isn't able to open holes for the running game forcing the new QB to throw more than they want to and they also aren't able to protect the qb in passing situations.DJDuck said:With all due respect Bob let me push back a little bit Bob. 1st the OL.......of course it is a concern and yes they have a lot of talent. The last time I remember the Ducks replacing the entire OL was 2009. That was the year we lost to Boise State in our 1st game. That team came together, won the Conference, went 10-3, and went to the rose Bowl ranked #11.
BTW there are several of these linemen that have actually started for the Ducks at one time or another. 😊
Stanford (Home)
WSU (Away)
UCLA (Home)
OSU (Away)
They get four cupcakes before Cal and Washington. With decent coaching, you'd think 4 games is enough time to get a lot of things ironed out on the offensive line before the 2 game season starts.
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This didn't age well.RaceBannon said:
Calcreepycoug said:I would say “dreaming” is an overstatement.
They’ve got as good a shot as anybody because the conference is garbage.
Every team in the conference has a problem.
O line is the key issue as you say, particularly in pass blocking, which really takes time.
On D, the Dooks are mostly right. But they’ll miss Graham, because he was a seasoned and smart corner. Wright is crazy talented and got playing time, so he’ll help a lot. Lenoir opted back in. You gotta hope neither of those two get hurt. They’ll clearly miss Dye, as well as Carlberg, the latter being somewhat underrated in my book. But they have a lot of talent coming back on the D line and linebacker.
Clear favorite? No. But who is?
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I guess I got my answer. Handing the other team 3 fucking turnovers in the first half, and with seconds left in the half Oregon gets in the endzone on a couple plays. Went from, what, 26 to 7 going into the half to 19 to 14. Same old Coug.creepycoug said:
If Leech were still in town, the road game at Coug would loom large. I wonder what's left of that pile of shit over in Pulltab now that they've been jilted by the Pirate for Mississippi Fucking State.greenblood said:
This is where the scheduling really helps Oregon.SFGbob said:
They may have more talent but they have far less experience. Hope I'm wrong.DJDuck said:
Other than Penei this OL is more talented than the one that graduated. It would have been nice to have a non conference schedule for them to come together as a group. It is what it is. We shall see.SFGbob said:
Please do push back. Here's what I see. A new o-line isn't able to open holes for the running game forcing the new QB to throw more than they want to and they also aren't able to protect the qb in passing situations.DJDuck said:With all due respect Bob let me push back a little bit Bob. 1st the OL.......of course it is a concern and yes they have a lot of talent. The last time I remember the Ducks replacing the entire OL was 2009. That was the year we lost to Boise State in our 1st game. That team came together, won the Conference, went 10-3, and went to the rose Bowl ranked #11.
BTW there are several of these linemen that have actually started for the Ducks at one time or another. 😊
Stanford (Home)
WSU (Away)
UCLA (Home)
OSU (Away)
They get four cupcakes before Cal and Washington. With decent coaching, you'd think 4 games is enough time to get a lot of things ironed out on the offensive line before the 2 game season starts.
