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HH Favorite Rock Album Sweet 16 (1991 to present) - #2 Dirt vs #6 Ten

YellowSnow
YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,217 Founders Club



HH Favorite Rock Album Sweet 16 (1991 to present) - #2 Dirt vs #6 Ten 28 votes

2) Alice In Chains – Dirt
64%
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6) Pearl Jam – Ten
35%
DerekJohnsonRaceBannonwhlinderalumni94Tequillabiak1pawzYellowSnowEl_KFishpo31 10 votes
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  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    2) Alice In Chains – Dirt
    This shouldn't be close
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,217 Founders Club
    6) Pearl Jam – Ten
    dnc said:

    This shouldn't be close

    Don't underestimate the "classic rock" vote here.
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
    2) Alice In Chains – Dirt

    dnc said:

    This shouldn't be close

    Don't underestimate the "classic rock" vote here.

  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    2) Alice In Chains – Dirt

    dnc said:

    This shouldn't be close

    Don't underestimate the "classic rock" vote here.
    "Shouldn't" does not equal "won't".
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,729 Founders Club
    6) Pearl Jam – Ten



  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,293 Founders Club
    6) Pearl Jam – Ten
    very difficult choice
  • chuck
    chuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,673 Swaye's Wigwam
    edited October 2020
    2) Alice In Chains – Dirt
    I don't understand the appeal of PJ. They're the Journey...or maybe the Doobie Brothers...of hard rock.

    The grunge era never came close to equaling Dirt. The entire hard rock, or heavy metal, or whatever umbrella label you think AIC falls into, has rarely equaled it in its entire history.

    Edit...You know, Journey and the Doobie Brothers didn't rely on inserted syllables, grunts, and drawn out mumbling to make the lyrics fit the melodies. I shouldn't have insulted them with that comparison.
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
    2) Alice In Chains – Dirt
    chuck said:

    I don't understand the appeal of PJ. They're the Journey...or maybe the Doobie Brothers...of hard rock.

    The grunge era never came close to equaling Dirt. The entire hard rock, or heavy metal, or whatever umbrella label you think AIC falls into, has rarely equaled it in its entire history.

    I first heard AiC on the KISW New Music Hour (rip) in 1989 or 1990, with a booter of Queen of the Rodeo. Hooked. I bought Facelift when it was released. However, there's a lot of AiC songs I just don't like that much. But that's just a taste preference. Their musicianship is undeniable, with the vocals being the biggest differentiator.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    2) Alice In Chains – Dirt

    chuck said:

    I don't understand the appeal of PJ. They're the Journey...or maybe the Doobie Brothers...of hard rock.

    The grunge era never came close to equaling Dirt. The entire hard rock, or heavy metal, or whatever umbrella label you think AIC falls into, has rarely equaled it in its entire history.

    I first heard AiC on the KISW New Music Hour (rip) in 1989 or 1990, with a booter of Queen of the Rodeo. Hooked. I bought Facelift when it was released. However, there's a lot of AiC songs I just don't like that much. But that's just a taste preference. Their musicianship is undeniable, with the vocals being the biggest differentiator.
    Yep Layne and Jerry's harmonies are next level. It's what sets them apart from anything else in the era.
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
    2) Alice In Chains – Dirt

    dnc said:

    This shouldn't be close

    Don't underestimate the "classic rock" vote here.

    Nothing makes one feel old like turning the dial to 102.5 and hearing Metallica and Pearl Jam.
    In 1993, PJ held a band meeting and decided: Look, Credence is cleaning up on shit from 25 years ago. We don't need to wait. We can be Credence now.
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,217 Founders Club
    6) Pearl Jam – Ten

    dnc said:

    This shouldn't be close

    Don't underestimate the "classic rock" vote here.

    Nothing makes one feel old like turning the dial to 102.5 and hearing Metallica and Pearl Jam.
    In 1993, PJ held a band meeting and decided: Look, Credence is cleaning up on shit from 25 years ago. We don't need to wait. We can be Credence now.
    Hey man, I love the Black Crowes and the first 4 PJ albums. Classic rock is eternal.
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
    2) Alice In Chains – Dirt

    chuck said:

    I don't understand the appeal of PJ. They're the Journey...or maybe the Doobie Brothers...of hard rock.

    The grunge era never came close to equaling Dirt. The entire hard rock, or heavy metal, or whatever umbrella label you think AIC falls into, has rarely equaled it in its entire history.

    I first heard AiC on the KISW New Music Hour (rip) in 1989 or 1990, with a booter of Queen of the Rodeo. Hooked. I bought Facelift when it was released. However, there's a lot of AiC songs I just don't like that much. But that's just a taste preference. Their musicianship is undeniable, with the vocals being the biggest differentiator.
    PS, I felt cheated back in the day that the cancelrific Queen of the Rodeo wasn't on Facelift.
  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,431 Founders Club
    edited October 2020
    6) Pearl Jam – Ten
    dnc said:

    This shouldn't be close

    very difficult choice

    dnc said:

    chuck said:

    I don't understand the appeal of PJ. They're the Journey...or maybe the Doobie Brothers...of hard rock.

    The grunge era never came close to equaling Dirt. The entire hard rock, or heavy metal, or whatever umbrella label you think AIC falls into, has rarely equaled it in its entire history.

    I first heard AiC on the KISW New Music Hour (rip) in 1989 or 1990, with a booter of Queen of the Rodeo. Hooked. I bought Facelift when it was released. However, there's a lot of AiC songs I just don't like that much. But that's just a taste preference. Their musicianship is undeniable, with the vocals being the biggest differentiator.
    Yep Layne and Jerry's harmonies are next level. It's what sets them apart from anything else in the era.
    PJ is my all-tim favorite. Especially when you go deep into their live shows which transcends anything overplayed on the radio. I would argue that McCready's riffs are equal to the vocals of Layne & Jerry.

    With all that said, I've been listening to a TON of AIC (and Mad Season) recently.

    This could have easily been the #1 v #2 v #3 (including Nevermind), imo



    Edit: I just read the OG Tournament thread. Explains a lot that bully @dnc has PJ ranked #38562638. Haters gonna hate.
  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,739 Founders Club
    2) Alice In Chains – Dirt
    I enjoy seeing PJ get bludgeoned by AiC
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    edited October 2020
    2) Alice In Chains – Dirt
    pawz said:

    dnc said:

    This shouldn't be close

    very difficult choice

    dnc said:

    chuck said:

    I don't understand the appeal of PJ. They're the Journey...or maybe the Doobie Brothers...of hard rock.

    The grunge era never came close to equaling Dirt. The entire hard rock, or heavy metal, or whatever umbrella label you think AIC falls into, has rarely equaled it in its entire history.

    I first heard AiC on the KISW New Music Hour (rip) in 1989 or 1990, with a booter of Queen of the Rodeo. Hooked. I bought Facelift when it was released. However, there's a lot of AiC songs I just don't like that much. But that's just a taste preference. Their musicianship is undeniable, with the vocals being the biggest differentiator.
    Yep Layne and Jerry's harmonies are next level. It's what sets them apart from anything else in the era.
    PJ is my all-tim favorite. Especially when you go deep into their live shows which transcends anything overplayed on the radio. I would argue that McCready's riffs are equal to the vocals of Layne & Jerry.

    With all that said, I've been listening to a TON of AIC (and Mad Season) recently.

    This could have easily been the #1 v #2 v #3 (including Nevermind), imo



    Edit: I just read the OG Tournament thread. Explains a lot that bully @dnc has PJ ranked #38562638. Haters gonna hate.
    Uhhh I was really kind to Ten in the seedings. It finished in a four way tie for third in it's own year, yet I brought Ten into the field and left the other three it tied with out. I gave it the third highest seed of all the non winners in the bracket, behind only The Black Album (which got more votes than Ten did in the 91 pole and had to rank ahead of it) and Superunkown.

    And I voted for Ten over The Black Album when they went head to head.

    I was very respectful of Ten's place here.
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,217 Founders Club
    6) Pearl Jam – Ten
    dnc said:

    pawz said:

    dnc said:

    This shouldn't be close

    very difficult choice

    dnc said:

    chuck said:

    I don't understand the appeal of PJ. They're the Journey...or maybe the Doobie Brothers...of hard rock.

    The grunge era never came close to equaling Dirt. The entire hard rock, or heavy metal, or whatever umbrella label you think AIC falls into, has rarely equaled it in its entire history.

    I first heard AiC on the KISW New Music Hour (rip) in 1989 or 1990, with a booter of Queen of the Rodeo. Hooked. I bought Facelift when it was released. However, there's a lot of AiC songs I just don't like that much. But that's just a taste preference. Their musicianship is undeniable, with the vocals being the biggest differentiator.
    Yep Layne and Jerry's harmonies are next level. It's what sets them apart from anything else in the era.
    PJ is my all-tim favorite. Especially when you go deep into their live shows which transcends anything overplayed on the radio. I would argue that McCready's riffs are equal to the vocals of Layne & Jerry.

    With all that said, I've been listening to a TON of AIC (and Mad Season) recently.

    This could have easily been the #1 v #2 v #3 (including Nevermind), imo



    Edit: I just read the OG Tournament thread. Explains a lot that bully @dnc has PJ ranked #38562638. Haters gonna hate.
    Uhhh I was really kind to Ten in the seedings. It finished in a four way tie for third in it's own year, yet I brought Ten into the field and left the other three it tied with out. I gave it the third highest seed of all the non winners in the bracket, behind only The Black Album (which got more votes than Ten did in the 91 pole and had to rank ahead of it) and Superunkown.

    And I voted for Ten over The Black Album when they went head to head.

    I was very respectful of Ten's place here.
    @dnc walking a mile in my shoes.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    edited October 2020
    2) Alice In Chains – Dirt

    dnc said:

    pawz said:

    dnc said:

    This shouldn't be close

    very difficult choice

    dnc said:

    chuck said:

    I don't understand the appeal of PJ. They're the Journey...or maybe the Doobie Brothers...of hard rock.

    The grunge era never came close to equaling Dirt. The entire hard rock, or heavy metal, or whatever umbrella label you think AIC falls into, has rarely equaled it in its entire history.

    I first heard AiC on the KISW New Music Hour (rip) in 1989 or 1990, with a booter of Queen of the Rodeo. Hooked. I bought Facelift when it was released. However, there's a lot of AiC songs I just don't like that much. But that's just a taste preference. Their musicianship is undeniable, with the vocals being the biggest differentiator.
    Yep Layne and Jerry's harmonies are next level. It's what sets them apart from anything else in the era.
    PJ is my all-tim favorite. Especially when you go deep into their live shows which transcends anything overplayed on the radio. I would argue that McCready's riffs are equal to the vocals of Layne & Jerry.

    With all that said, I've been listening to a TON of AIC (and Mad Season) recently.

    This could have easily been the #1 v #2 v #3 (including Nevermind), imo



    Edit: I just read the OG Tournament thread. Explains a lot that bully @dnc has PJ ranked #38562638. Haters gonna hate.
    Uhhh I was really kind to Ten in the seedings. It finished in a four way tie for third in it's own year, yet I brought Ten into the field and left the other three it tied with out. I gave it the third highest seed of all the non winners in the bracket, behind only The Black Album (which got more votes than Ten did in the 91 pole and had to rank ahead of it) and Superunkown.

    And I voted for Ten over The Black Album when they went head to head.

    I was very respectful of Ten's place here.
    @dnc walking a mile in my shoes.
    A mile on these legs is a lot further than a mile on yours
  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,431 Founders Club
    6) Pearl Jam – Ten
    dnc said:

    pawz said:

    dnc said:

    This shouldn't be close

    very difficult choice

    dnc said:

    chuck said:

    I don't understand the appeal of PJ. They're the Journey...or maybe the Doobie Brothers...of hard rock.

    The grunge era never came close to equaling Dirt. The entire hard rock, or heavy metal, or whatever umbrella label you think AIC falls into, has rarely equaled it in its entire history.

    I first heard AiC on the KISW New Music Hour (rip) in 1989 or 1990, with a booter of Queen of the Rodeo. Hooked. I bought Facelift when it was released. However, there's a lot of AiC songs I just don't like that much. But that's just a taste preference. Their musicianship is undeniable, with the vocals being the biggest differentiator.
    Yep Layne and Jerry's harmonies are next level. It's what sets them apart from anything else in the era.
    PJ is my all-tim favorite. Especially when you go deep into their live shows which transcends anything overplayed on the radio. I would argue that McCready's riffs are equal to the vocals of Layne & Jerry.

    With all that said, I've been listening to a TON of AIC (and Mad Season) recently.

    This could have easily been the #1 v #2 v #3 (including Nevermind), imo



    Edit: I just read the OG Tournament thread. Explains a lot that bully @dnc has PJ ranked #38562638. Haters gonna hate.
    Uhhh I was really kind to Ten in the seedings. It finished in a four way tie for third in it's own year, yet I brought Ten into the field and left the other three it tied with out. I gave it the third highest seed of all the non winners in the bracket, behind only The Black Album (which got more votes than Ten did in the 91 pole and had to rank ahead of it) and Superunkown.

    And I voted for Ten over The Black Album when they went head to head.

    I was very respectful of Ten's place here
    .
    Now you're just gaslighting me, Bully.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    2) Alice In Chains – Dirt
    pawz said:

    dnc said:

    pawz said:

    dnc said:

    This shouldn't be close

    very difficult choice

    dnc said:

    chuck said:

    I don't understand the appeal of PJ. They're the Journey...or maybe the Doobie Brothers...of hard rock.

    The grunge era never came close to equaling Dirt. The entire hard rock, or heavy metal, or whatever umbrella label you think AIC falls into, has rarely equaled it in its entire history.

    I first heard AiC on the KISW New Music Hour (rip) in 1989 or 1990, with a booter of Queen of the Rodeo. Hooked. I bought Facelift when it was released. However, there's a lot of AiC songs I just don't like that much. But that's just a taste preference. Their musicianship is undeniable, with the vocals being the biggest differentiator.
    Yep Layne and Jerry's harmonies are next level. It's what sets them apart from anything else in the era.
    PJ is my all-tim favorite. Especially when you go deep into their live shows which transcends anything overplayed on the radio. I would argue that McCready's riffs are equal to the vocals of Layne & Jerry.

    With all that said, I've been listening to a TON of AIC (and Mad Season) recently.

    This could have easily been the #1 v #2 v #3 (including Nevermind), imo



    Edit: I just read the OG Tournament thread. Explains a lot that bully @dnc has PJ ranked #38562638. Haters gonna hate.
    Uhhh I was really kind to Ten in the seedings. It finished in a four way tie for third in it's own year, yet I brought Ten into the field and left the other three it tied with out. I gave it the third highest seed of all the non winners in the bracket, behind only The Black Album (which got more votes than Ten did in the 91 pole and had to rank ahead of it) and Superunkown.

    And I voted for Ten over The Black Album when they went head to head.

    I was very respectful of Ten's place here
    .
    Now you're just gaslighting me, Bully.
    And now my bitter hands cradle broken glass
    Of what was everything
    All the pictures have all been washed in black
    Tattooed everything
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
    edited October 2020
    2) Alice In Chains – Dirt
    dnc said:

    pawz said:

    dnc said:

    pawz said:

    dnc said:

    This shouldn't be close

    very difficult choice

    dnc said:

    chuck said:

    I don't understand the appeal of PJ. They're the Journey...or maybe the Doobie Brothers...of hard rock.

    The grunge era never came close to equaling Dirt. The entire hard rock, or heavy metal, or whatever umbrella label you think AIC falls into, has rarely equaled it in its entire history.

    I first heard AiC on the KISW New Music Hour (rip) in 1989 or 1990, with a booter of Queen of the Rodeo. Hooked. I bought Facelift when it was released. However, there's a lot of AiC songs I just don't like that much. But that's just a taste preference. Their musicianship is undeniable, with the vocals being the biggest differentiator.
    Yep Layne and Jerry's harmonies are next level. It's what sets them apart from anything else in the era.
    PJ is my all-tim favorite. Especially when you go deep into their live shows which transcends anything overplayed on the radio. I would argue that McCready's riffs are equal to the vocals of Layne & Jerry.

    With all that said, I've been listening to a TON of AIC (and Mad Season) recently.

    This could have easily been the #1 v #2 v #3 (including Nevermind), imo



    Edit: I just read the OG Tournament thread. Explains a lot that bully @dnc has PJ ranked #38562638. Haters gonna hate.
    Uhhh I was really kind to Ten in the seedings. It finished in a four way tie for third in it's own year, yet I brought Ten into the field and left the other three it tied with out. I gave it the third highest seed of all the non winners in the bracket, behind only The Black Album (which got more votes than Ten did in the 91 pole and had to rank ahead of it) and Superunkown.

    And I voted for Ten over The Black Album when they went head to head.

    I was very respectful of Ten's place here
    .
    Now you're just gaslighting me, Bully.
    And now my bitter hands cradle broken glass
    Of what was everything
    All the pictures have all been washed in black
    Tattooed everything
    I do love that song, overwrought pathos & all.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    2) Alice In Chains – Dirt

    dnc said:

    pawz said:

    dnc said:

    pawz said:

    dnc said:

    This shouldn't be close

    very difficult choice

    dnc said:

    chuck said:

    I don't understand the appeal of PJ. They're the Journey...or maybe the Doobie Brothers...of hard rock.

    The grunge era never came close to equaling Dirt. The entire hard rock, or heavy metal, or whatever umbrella label you think AIC falls into, has rarely equaled it in its entire history.

    I first heard AiC on the KISW New Music Hour (rip) in 1989 or 1990, with a booter of Queen of the Rodeo. Hooked. I bought Facelift when it was released. However, there's a lot of AiC songs I just don't like that much. But that's just a taste preference. Their musicianship is undeniable, with the vocals being the biggest differentiator.
    Yep Layne and Jerry's harmonies are next level. It's what sets them apart from anything else in the era.
    PJ is my all-tim favorite. Especially when you go deep into their live shows which transcends anything overplayed on the radio. I would argue that McCready's riffs are equal to the vocals of Layne & Jerry.

    With all that said, I've been listening to a TON of AIC (and Mad Season) recently.

    This could have easily been the #1 v #2 v #3 (including Nevermind), imo



    Edit: I just read the OG Tournament thread. Explains a lot that bully @dnc has PJ ranked #38562638. Haters gonna hate.
    Uhhh I was really kind to Ten in the seedings. It finished in a four way tie for third in it's own year, yet I brought Ten into the field and left the other three it tied with out. I gave it the third highest seed of all the non winners in the bracket, behind only The Black Album (which got more votes than Ten did in the 91 pole and had to rank ahead of it) and Superunkown.

    And I voted for Ten over The Black Album when they went head to head.

    I was very respectful of Ten's place here
    .
    Now you're just gaslighting me, Bully.
    And now my bitter hands cradle broken glass
    Of what was everything
    All the pictures have all been washed in black
    Tattooed everything
    I do love that song, overwrought pathos & all.
    It's grunge's greatest breakup song (not exactly the genre's strongpoint).
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    2) Alice In Chains – Dirt
    I've probably posted this before but this is great, especially when the crowd takes over the bridge.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtnqRY8S_mU
  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,431 Founders Club
    6) Pearl Jam – Ten
    dnc said:

    pawz said:

    dnc said:

    pawz said:

    dnc said:

    This shouldn't be close

    very difficult choice

    dnc said:

    chuck said:

    I don't understand the appeal of PJ. They're the Journey...or maybe the Doobie Brothers...of hard rock.

    The grunge era never came close to equaling Dirt. The entire hard rock, or heavy metal, or whatever umbrella label you think AIC falls into, has rarely equaled it in its entire history.

    I first heard AiC on the KISW New Music Hour (rip) in 1989 or 1990, with a booter of Queen of the Rodeo. Hooked. I bought Facelift when it was released. However, there's a lot of AiC songs I just don't like that much. But that's just a taste preference. Their musicianship is undeniable, with the vocals being the biggest differentiator.
    Yep Layne and Jerry's harmonies are next level. It's what sets them apart from anything else in the era.
    PJ is my all-tim favorite. Especially when you go deep into their live shows which transcends anything overplayed on the radio. I would argue that McCready's riffs are equal to the vocals of Layne & Jerry.

    With all that said, I've been listening to a TON of AIC (and Mad Season) recently.

    This could have easily been the #1 v #2 v #3 (including Nevermind), imo



    Edit: I just read the OG Tournament thread. Explains a lot that bully @dnc has PJ ranked #38562638. Haters gonna hate.
    Uhhh I was really kind to Ten in the seedings. It finished in a four way tie for third in it's own year, yet I brought Ten into the field and left the other three it tied with out. I gave it the third highest seed of all the non winners in the bracket, behind only The Black Album (which got more votes than Ten did in the 91 pole and had to rank ahead of it) and Superunkown.

    And I voted for Ten over The Black Album when they went head to head.

    I was very respectful of Ten's place here
    .
    Now you're just gaslighting me, Bully.
    And now my bitter hands cradle broken glass
    Of what was everything
    All the pictures have all been washed in black
    Tattooed everything
    I know that someday you'll have a beautiful life
    I know you'll be a star
    In somebody else's sky
    But why, why, why can't it be
    Why can't it be mine?
    Ah, yeah
    Uh, woo-hoo
    We, we belong together, we belong, we belong together
  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,431 Founders Club
    6) Pearl Jam – Ten
    dnc said:

    I've probably posted this before but this is great, especially when the crowd takes over the bridge.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtnqRY8S_mU

    This is case in poont re their live shows being better than anything they recorded for radio airplay.

    The evolution and maturation of McCready's riffs keep me coming back for more. You just don't hear that on the original recordings. At all.
  • Fishpo31
    Fishpo31 Member Posts: 2,625
    6) Pearl Jam – Ten
    And now my bitter hands cradle broken glass
    Of what was everything
    All the pictures have all been washed in black
    Tattooed everything

    I know that someday you'll have a beautiful life
    I know you'll be a star
    In somebody else's sky
    But why, why, why can't it be
    Why can't it be mine?
    Ah, yeah
    Uh, woo-hoo
    We, we belong together, we belong, we belong together

    Currently playing on a loop in the football recruiting office...
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    2) Alice In Chains – Dirt
    Fishpo31 said:

    And now my bitter hands cradle broken glass
    Of what was everything
    All the pictures have all been washed in black
    Tattooed everything

    I know that someday you'll have a beautiful life
    I know you'll be a star
    In somebody else's sky
    But why, why, why can't it be
    Why can't it be mine?
    Ah, yeah
    Uh, woo-hoo
    We, we belong together, we belong, we belong together

    Currently playing on a loop in the football recruiting office...


    JTT....