Atlantic Editor Admits Key Detail of Anti-Trump Hit Piece May Be Untrue

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• DJDuck Member Posts: 5,970

  September 2020

  https://twitter.com/Techno_Fog/status/1301741080577298437?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1301741080577298437%7Ctwgr%5Eshare_3&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fpjmedia.com%2Fnews-and-politics%2Fmatt-margolis%2F2020%2F09%2F04%2Fheres-how-we-know-the-atlantics-hit-piece-on-trump-is-pure-fiction-n890999

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• Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,738

  September 2020

  Any serious journalist would be disgusted by this. Are there any serious journalists left?

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• GreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,165

  September 2020

  I don't reflexively trust Goldberg. And I sure as shit don't reflexively trust whoever the fuck "TechnoFog" is along with whichever dipshit blogger from PJMedia you linked.
  
  What's telling though is that John Bolton is denying any of this was ever said. That's about as scathing of a rebuttal as you can find.

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• Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,646

  September 2020

  Swaye said:

  Any serious journalist would be disgusted by this. Are there any serious journalists left?

  no lol
  
  All journalists are leftists cunts

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• Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,738

  September 2020 edited September 2020

  GreenRiverGatorz said:

  I don't reflexively trust Goldberg. And I sure as shit don't reflexively trust whoever the fuck "TechnoFog" is along with whichever dipshit blogger from PJMedia you linked.
  
  What's telling though is that John Bolton is denying any of this was ever said. That's about as scathing of a rebuttal as you can find.

  This. When the story first broke I doubted it, but stayed very open to the possibility that something resembling this maybe was said, because Trump is known for saying dumbshit things. But when Bolton, who loathes Trump, said it never happened, that put the nail in the coffin for me. Fake news.

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• doogie Member Posts: 15,072

  September 2020

  GreenRiverGatorz said:

  I don't reflexively trust Goldberg. And I sure as shit don't reflexively trust whoever the fuck "TechnoFog" is along with whichever dipshit blogger from PJMedia you linked.
  
  What's telling though is that John Bolton is denying any of this was ever said. That's about as scathing of a rebuttal as you can find.

  Why consider Facts when you have such strongly held feelings.
  
  Amiright?

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• thechatch Member Posts: 7,110

  September 2020 edited September 2020

  In a 24hr news cycle, this was a calculated move by dem operatives, working with Atlantic Staffers. It’s low risk/high reward. Clearly, the story is, at best, highly embellished, and at worst, completely fabricated. So what’s the fallout?
  
  Is the Atlantic going to lose subscribers or advertisers? Highly unlikely.
  
  Will this cause any former Biden supporters to switch to Trump? Of course not.
  
  Will any former Trump supporters switch to Biden? Probably not, in any meaningful numbers.
  
  Will any undecided/center voters ultimately choose Trump because they feel as though this was mis-reported? Maybe, but not in meaningful numbers.
  
  Will any undecided voters see the original story as it was covered by CNN, MSNBC, Bloomberg etc etc etc and decide that Trump hates our servicemen and that’s enough to get them to hold their nose and make the decision to vote for Biden? Probably.
  
  The battleground is with the undecided voters in swing states. The partisans have drawn their lines in the sand and Neither candidate is going to lose their base. This is about seeing what lies you can get away with or which will have minimal blowback. Pure and simple.
  
  If you polled 1000 undecided voters and asked them what they know about Trump and the funeral in Paris, 90% of them are gonna say They heard he skipped it and called our troops a bunch of suckers and losers, because it SEEMS like something they’ve heard or seen him say in other contexts prior.
  
  10% are gonna say that they heard the story turned out to be untrue and that they are totally turned off by what seems to be coordinated effort between the DNC and major news outlets to lie to the American people.
  
  That 80% delta was worth it for them to lie, and it likely paid off.

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• HHusky Member Posts: 23,607

  September 2020

  GreenRiverGatorz said:

  
  
  What's telling though is that John Bolton is denying any of this was ever said. That's about as scathing of a rebuttal as you can find.

  Bolton denies he (Bolton) heard Daddy say any of this. Nothing more.

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• Bendintheriver Member Posts: 6,922

  September 2020

  Pathetic HH. Just pathetic.

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• HHusky Member Posts: 23,607

  September 2020 edited September 2020

  Bendintheriver said:

  Pathetic HH. Just pathetic.

  "I didn't hear that," Bolton told The New York Times. "I'm not saying he didn't say them later in the day or another time, but I was there for that discussion."
  
  
  
  https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/bolton-wont-rule-out-trumps-disparaging-remarks-on-soldiers-but-says-he-didnt-hear-them-firsthand?_amp=true

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• RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,119

  September 2020

  So Bolton was there and didn't hear it
  
  Nor did he hear it at any other time
  
  Got it

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• HHusky Member Posts: 23,607

  September 2020

  RaceBannon said:

  So Bolton was there and didn't hear it
  
  Nor did he hear it at any other time
  
  Got it

  That’s his story. It might be true, although it’s certainly possible he did hear it and doesn’t want to explain why he didn’t instantly resign.

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• Goduckies Member Posts: 7,932

  September 2020

  Oh fuck off, this story is dead

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• animate Member Posts: 4,245

  September 2020

  Goduckies said:

  Oh fuck off, this story is dead

  Oh no, it's far from dead.
  
  Trump is starring in the new remake of
  
  "I spit on your (military) grave"
  
  Comes out in less than 60 days.

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• Bendintheriver Member Posts: 6,922

  September 2020

  HHusky said:

  Bendintheriver said:

  Pathetic HH. Just pathetic.

  "I didn't hear that," Bolton told The New York Times. "I'm not saying he didn't say them later in the day or another time, but I was there for that discussion."
  
  
  
  https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/bolton-wont-rule-out-trumps-disparaging-remarks-on-soldiers-but-says-he-didnt-hear-them-firsthand?_amp=true

  Just give it up HH. You have had your ass handed to you once again. You have been on the wrong/losing side so much lately it has become a joke.

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• PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 47,866

  September 2020

  Bendintheriver said:

  HHusky said:

  Bendintheriver said:

  Pathetic HH. Just pathetic.

  "I didn't hear that," Bolton told The New York Times. "I'm not saying he didn't say them later in the day or another time, but I was there for that discussion."
  
  
  
  https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/bolton-wont-rule-out-trumps-disparaging-remarks-on-soldiers-but-says-he-didnt-hear-them-firsthand?_amp=true

  Just give it up HH. You have had your ass handed to you once again. You have been on the wrong/losing side so much lately it has become a joke.

  The Dazzler thinks it's a game of hide-the-sausage. And as long as nobody admits they were in the room and heard it, the alleged statement is truth because it was published in The Atlantic.
  
  

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• Sledog Member Posts: 37,199

  September 2020

  HHusky said:

  RaceBannon said:

  So Bolton was there and didn't hear it
  
  Nor did he hear it at any other time
  
  Got it

  That’s his story. It might be true, although it’s certainly possible he did hear it and doesn’t want to explain why he didn’t instantly resign.

  What's the preponderance of the evidence say consuelo?

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• HHusky Member Posts: 23,607

  September 2020

  Sledog said:

  HHusky said:

  RaceBannon said:

  So Bolton was there and didn't hear it
  
  Nor did he hear it at any other time
  
  Got it

  That’s his story. It might be true, although it’s certainly possible he did hear it and doesn’t want to explain why he didn’t instantly resign.

  What's the preponderance of the evidence say consuelo?

  I have no idea whether the sources confirming the story say Bolton was present.

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• Alexis Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 3,359

  September 2020

  The fucking democrats who have been shitting on the military for at least the last 60 years, now want to run out the fact that they in fact are the party who loves the military, not the other guys. These guys are priceless/

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• HHusky Member Posts: 23,607

  September 2020

  Alexis said:

  The fucking democrats who have been shitting on the military for at least the last 60 years, now want to run out the fact that they in fact are the party who loves the military, not the other guys. These guys are priceless/

  Exactly. Who can possibly forget JFK shitting on the military?

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