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Reparations

jecornel
jecornel Member Posts: 9,737
Coleman was still in college delivering his arguments. I would take the time to watch https://youtu.be/F5AQyWAWHU4
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  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,041 Standard Supporter
    The uglier, the meaner. The handsomer, the more trim.

    Why else do you think one's a blamer and one isn't?
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,126 Standard Supporter
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqiOTPLP8Bo

    Burgess Owens sitting just to the left of Coleman Hughes.

  • LebamDawg
    LebamDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,792 Swaye's Wigwam
    I really don't think we will ever settle this when this kind of shit goes on

  • jecornel
    jecornel Member Posts: 9,737

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqiOTPLP8Bo

    Burgess Owens sitting just to the left of Coleman Hughes.

    Yep.
  • jecornel
    jecornel Member Posts: 9,737

    Who's coleman

    He is a highly intelligent individual.
  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,633 Standard Supporter
    For more fun and games, define black for reparation purposes? 1/16th blood like some Indian tribes do for the casino money? If your a Somali refugee from 10 years ago are you in the pool?
  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,662
    thechatch said:

    I’m a descendent of a Union General. Does that exempt me from all of this?

    What about descendants of early 1900s immigrants from Ireland, Italy, and Germany? Are they exempt from paying out on something that happened 50 years before their great great grandfather crawled off of a boat with a only three clothes on his back?

    Help me flesh this out. Am I now entitled to demand reparations for the indentured servitude my far ancestors toiled under in Scotland? Who do I invoice for that?

    This is all fucking nonsense and detracts from the current issues that need to be addressed. Unfortunately, right now, those issues seem to be pancake syrup, rice, and Historically significant monuments.

    How dare you!
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    jecornel said:

    Who's coleman

    He is a highly intelligent individual.
    I asked who he is, not what he is.
  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,539 Founders Club
    thechatch said:

    I’m a descendent of a Union General. Does that exempt me from all of this?

    What about descendants of early 1900s immigrants from Ireland, Italy, and Germany? Are they exempt from paying out on something that happened 50 years before their great great grandfather crawled off of a boat with a only three clothes on his back?

    Help me flesh this out. Am I now entitled to demand reparations for the indentured servitude my far ancestors toiled under in Scotland? Who do I invoice for that?

    This is all fucking nonsense and detracts from the current issues that need to be addressed. Unfortunately, right now, those issues seem to be pancake syrup, rice, and Historically significant monuments.

    You go back to 1890, my descendants were either in France, Ireland, Norway or were Native American.
  • thechatch
    thechatch Member Posts: 7,287 Standard Supporter
    I’d love it if our political system and media allowed for the kind of Social contracting necessary to address issues in every underserved communities, but that just ain’t how shit works in 2020. Everyone is looking for symbolic wins to post on twitter while the string pullers figure out who’s pocket to dip their hands in.

    But sure. Let’s tear down a bunch Of statues, slap some slogans on the backs of millionaire athletes who are less affected by all of this than almost everyone else out there, and rebrand a few grocery store items and call it a day.

    Imagine how stupid you have to be to take a country so divided by race(thanks, talking heads!) and introduce a system where one race pays another race money, under some arbitrary standards, dreamed up by a career bureaucrat, who’s entire political career is built on those two groups of people blaming each other for shit that mostly isn’t the other party’s fault.
  • LebamDawg
    LebamDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,792 Swaye's Wigwam

    thechatch said:

    I’m a descendent of a Union General. Does that exempt me from all of this?

    What about descendants of early 1900s immigrants from Ireland, Italy, and Germany? Are they exempt from paying out on something that happened 50 years before their great great grandfather crawled off of a boat with a only three clothes on his back?

    Help me flesh this out. Am I now entitled to demand reparations for the indentured servitude my far ancestors toiled under in Scotland? Who do I invoice for that?

    This is all fucking nonsense and detracts from the current issues that need to be addressed. Unfortunately, right now, those issues seem to be pancake syrup, rice, and Historically significant monuments.

    You go back to 1890, my descendants were either in France, Ireland, Norway or were Native American.
    so that is where the term "four" fathers originated
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    thechatch said:

    I’m a descendent of a Union General. Does that exempt me from all of this?

    What about descendants of early 1900s immigrants from Ireland, Italy, and Germany? Are they exempt from paying out on something that happened 50 years before their great great grandfather crawled off of a boat with a only three clothes on his back?

    Help me flesh this out. Am I now entitled to demand reparations for the indentured servitude my far ancestors toiled under in Scotland? Who do I invoice for that?

    This is all fucking nonsense and detracts from the current issues that need to be addressed. Unfortunately, right now, those issues seem to be pancake syrup, rice, and Historically significant monuments.

    If they want reparations for what happened to black people after slavery let them go after the Democrat Party. Jim Crow wasn't a policy of the Federal Government it was a policy of the Democrat Party. There's no reason why a northern Republican should be paying black people for crimes and atrocities committed by Southern Rats and Southern Rat run state and local governments.
  • LebamDawg
    LebamDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,792 Swaye's Wigwam
    Unfortunately, right now, those issues seem to be pancake syrup, rice, and Historically significant monuments

    Those historically significant monuments were put up 35-60 years after the civil war in an attempt to appease the southern democrats (who were in charge) and to unite the nation. damn - go another 100 years and now those monuments are dividing the nation.
  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,662
    LebamDawg said:

    Unfortunately, right now, those issues seem to be pancake syrup, rice, and Historically significant monuments

    Those historically significant monuments were put up 35-60 years after the civil war in an attempt to appease the southern democrats (who were in charge) and to unite the nation. damn - go another 100 years and now those monuments are dividing the nation.

    Wahhh
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    LebamDawg said:

    Unfortunately, right now, those issues seem to be pancake syrup, rice, and Historically significant monuments

    Those historically significant monuments were put up 35-60 years after the civil war in an attempt to appease the southern democrats (who were in charge) and to unite the nation. damn - go another 100 years and now those monuments are dividing the nation.

    All true and very rarely ever mentioned in that context.
  • thechatch
    thechatch Member Posts: 7,287 Standard Supporter
    You took down some statues and posted selfies on the Gram.

    Look at how much you’ve helped, my idiotic “woke” countrymen.

    Fucking embarrassing.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,864 Standard Supporter
    Please list who owned you before you were freed and we'll see about payment!
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,864 Standard Supporter

    Sledog said:

    Please list who owned you before you were freed and we'll see about payment!

    My first wife.
    You made enough payments on her. Getting it back would take Houdini!
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,041 Standard Supporter
    edited August 2020
    jecornel said:

    Who's coleman

    He is a highly intelligent individual.
    That is so RACIST!!!
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,041 Standard Supporter

    jecornel said:

    Who's coleman

    He is a highly intelligent individual.
    I asked who he is, not what he is.
    ISAFNRC
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,041 Standard Supporter
    edited August 2020
    If somebody can make a reasonable case for Reparations, and make a reasonable connection with the impacts slavery had on their lives today, then I'm fine with some sort of Reparations that would be a symbolic expression of regret and a modest remittance to help someone out.

    But as a condition of that potential step, I want the full story about the African and European slave trades to be told, going back to its beginnings in the Arab world and before that, China and the Far East. I'm sick of this shit about how America "invented" slavery. It's such a steaming pile of dishonest horseshit that I would never give a dime to anyone who propagates that myth. African Kings loved slavery and made a killing from selling them to whites and browns headed to the new world.

    And shall we dare discuss the Barbary Pirates who decimated white and brown villages from all over the Mediterranean and up and down The Atlantic Coast from Iceland to the Congo? Those Muslim mother-fuckers cleaned house, capturing an estimated 1.25 million people they used as galley slaves, leaving abandoned villages all over the Mediterranean and attacked American cargo ships until Jefferson attacked finally attacked them back and the French conquered them in the 1830s.

    Every time I hear some asshole on TV talking about how slavery in the U.S. was "uniquely" terrible or exploitative, I have to remind myself that bondage is arguably better than being eaten by a cannibal back home.

    If you were on the losing side of a war on the African continent back in the 1500s, life was not going to be a picnic for you, IF you were allowed to live. The truth hurts.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,864 Standard Supporter
    I'm not responsible for the actions of others. Let alone others 150 + years ago.

    Who's going to pay reparations to all the dead soldiers who died freeing the slaves?

    Democrats should be responsible for all reparations. They did it. They fought ending it and they're still keeping minorities down. They are "the man"!
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,041 Standard Supporter
    Sledog said:

    I'm not responsible for the actions of others. Let alone others 150 + years ago.

    Who's going to pay reparations to all the dead soldiers who died freeing the slaves?

    Democrats should be responsible for all reparations. They did it. They fought ending it and they're still keeping minorities down. They are "the man"!

    Fill out your form and submit it. I'm sure there'll be an Adobe Fill-In version available.

    Then the government can lose it and you'll never see a dime, cause your submission will be deemed too late.
  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,662

    Sledog said:

    Please list who owned you before you were freed and we'll see about payment!

    My first wife.
    Is she still jerkable
  • Bob_C
    Bob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,731 Founders Club
    I’ll gladly write a check if I never have to hear about systemic racism again. Problem is those who receive handouts just end up resenting those who wrote the check though, they feel shamed.