Fight racial injustice.... in college sports.... L-O-F-L
Who are these idiots? If anywhere in America the 'racial injustice' gauge is slammed to the side favoring racists, it's CFB. Unless they want the racial mix in the league to properly reflect the population of the US.
Also, not sure where else in the world a school will bend over and break its own back to get a kid on the team if they have talent.
PS: Just shut it down. Shut it all down. These kids can go to college for an education instead of playing sports, they don't need sports.
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I. Health & Safety Protections
COVID-19 Protections- Allow option not to play during the pandemic without losing athletics eligibility or spot on our team’s roster.
- Prohibit/void COVID-19 agreements that waive liability.
- Player-approved health and safety standards enforced by a third party selected by players to address COVID-19, as well as serious injury, abuse and death.
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Preserve All Existing Sports by Eliminating Excessive Expenditures- Larry Scott, administrators, and coaches to voluntarily and drastically reduce excessive pay.
- End performance/academic bonuses.
- End lavish facility expenditures and use some endowment funds to preserve all sports.*
III. End Racial Injustice in College Sports and Society- Form a permanent civic-engagement task force made up of our leaders, experts of our choice, and university and conference administrators to address outstanding issues such as racial injustice in college sports and in society.
- In partnership with the Pac-12, 2% of conference revenue would be directed by players to support financial aid for low-income Black students, community initiatives, and development programs for college athletes on each campus.
- Form annual Pac-12 Black College Athlete Summit with guaranteed representation of at least three athletes of our choice from every school.
- Allow option not to play during the pandemic without losing athletics eligibility or spot on our team’s roster.
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IV. Economic Freedom and Equity
Guaranteed Medical Expense Coverage- Medical insurance selected by players for sports-related medical conditions, including COVID- 19 illness, to cover six years after college athletics eligibility ends.
- The freedom to secure representation, receive basic necessities from any third party, and earn money for use of our name, image, and likeness rights.
- Distribute 50% of each sport’s total conference revenue evenly among athletes in their respective sports.
- Six-year athletic scholarships to foster undergraduate and graduate degree completion.
- Elimination of all policies and practices restricting or deterring our freedom of speech, our ability to fully participate in charitable work, and our freedom to participate in campus activities outside of mandatory athletics participation.
- Ability of players of all sports to transfer one time without punishment, and additionally in cases of abuse or serious negligence.
- Ability to complete eligibility after participating in a pro draft if player goes undrafted and foregoes professional participation within seven days of the draft.
- Due process rights
- Medical insurance selected by players for sports-related medical conditions, including COVID- 19 illness, to cover six years after college athletics eligibility ends.
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These pampered fucks in all sports are doing their best to chase away a sports junkie like me. I spend my guy trips going to various sporting events around the country, have Duck season tickets for football, and am what you’d call their ideal customer demographic yet my support and enthusiasm is waning like never before.
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Time for 2-option athletics:
- You get a scholarship and waive this BS above
- You get no scholarship and are on the above plan, paying for everything out of pocket and contract becomes null-void if injured or unable to pay.
- You get a scholarship and waive this BS above
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I like to pick a school based on lavish facilities and use them to train for a career then demand that they be abolished
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I hear you and all my support is about to die on this BLMBS hill. My donations to a club and other funds, my season tickets, and all else that falls in with this. Entitled brats are now winning the war with this BS and it has to stop. I'm exhausted in having a massive fallacy shoved into all things.NorthwestFresh said:These pampered fucks in all sports are doing their best to chase away a sports junkie like me. I spend my guy trips going to various sporting events around the country, have Duck season tickets for football, and am what you’d call their ideal customer demographic yet my support and enthusiasm is waning like never before.
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BLM should be a minor virus that gives you the sniffles for an afternoon if you have a healthy immune system. This country has the immune system of a Type II diabetes patient who self-medicates with meth and fentanyl.Postal91 said:Time for 2-option athletics:
- You get a scholarship and waive this BS above
- You get no scholarship and are on the above plan, paying for everything out of pocket and contract becomes null-void if injured or unable to pay.
- You get a scholarship and waive this BS above
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A person familiar with the Pac-12 campaign said players from Cal, Oregon, Stanford and UCLA and other schools are involved.
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JFC. Just shut it all down. Go with the European model where schools educate and competitive sports is done in private leagues and clubs.
College tuition is free, but not everyone gets to go. Students start getting weeded out in elementary school. Some won't get to get an ethnic studies degree for free, but we will have trained doctors, engineers and business people ready to go.
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I agree, but will add that with logic and science being redefined as products of white privilege, and standards being lowered as we speak, just how properly trained will the doctors and engineers of tomorrow be?MikeDamone said:JFC. Just shut it all down. Go with the European model where schools educate and competitive sports is done in private leagues and clubs.
College tuition is free, but not everyone gets to go. Students start getting weeded out in elementary school. Some won't get to get an ethnic studies degree for free, but we will have trained doctors, engineers and business people ready to go.
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Apparently the golden goose tale is not taught anymore. The teacher's union, government employees, Big 5 colleges all seem to think that we will just take it and pay.
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I said use the European model....DerekJohnson said:
I agree, but will add that with logic and science being redefined as products of white privilege, and standards being lowered as we speak, just how properly trained will the doctors and engineers of tomorrow be?MikeDamone said:JFC. Just shut it all down. Go with the European model where schools educate and competitive sports is done in private leagues and clubs.
College tuition is free, but not everyone gets to go. Students start getting weeded out in elementary school. Some won't get to get an ethnic studies degree for free, but we will have trained doctors, engineers and business people ready to go.
Time to get some fucking PERSPECTIVE!
Don't lower standards.
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Also, what HS did these kids attend together where they were close enough in proximity to band together with this effort? Any autists want to rip this apart?Postal91 said:A person familiar with the Pac-12 campaign said players from Cal, Oregon, Stanford and UCLA and other schools are involved.
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The NFL and NBA need to set up their own developmental leagues for High School Seniors. Let the kids that see the value in a free education, food, clothing, books and the adoration of hundreds of thousands of fans use the scholarships.
27 athletic departments made money last year. Some articles claim it is in reality as few as 12 schools. This bullshit deal would literally put 100 out of business and we would have a league with maybe 27 schools in it.
I believe everyone knows who makes up the difference at the schools who don't show a profit and are running in the red. It is the regular students. The ones there to get a degree. Their fees and cost for the education go up.
If they don't like my ideas, they can let the whole thing die off because this is never going to end until they destroy college sports.
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Yup, if UDub runs this route and cliff dives into the shallow end of the SJW pool... I'm out. One of the best ways to kill Socialism Justice is by killing the cash flow feeding entitlement.WestlinnDuck said:Apparently the golden goose tale is not taught anymore. The teacher's union, government employees, Big 5 colleges all seem to think that we will just take it and pay.
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HOLY FREAKING SHEET.... I'm rolling;
As a Pac-12 athlete on the track/xc team at Cal Berkeley, I’m proud to be a member of the college athlete community — though these injustices must be addressed with systemic reform that benefit all athletes. Until then, I’m opting out of the fall season ✊🏼 #WeAreUnited
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It runs a lot deeper than the athletic department. The universities leverage off the athletic departments for a ton more than athletics. They get hundreds of millions donated for "education" from alumni who are connected primarily by football. No football, no donations.Bendintheriver said:The NFL and NBA need to set up their own developmental leagues for High School Seniors. Let the kids that see the value in a free education, food, clothing, books and the adoration of hundreds of thousands of fans use the scholarships.
27 athletic departments made money last year. Some articles claim it is in reality as few as 12 schools. This bullshit deal would literally put 100 out of business and we would have a league with maybe 27 schools in it.
I believe everyone knows who makes up the difference at the schools who don't show a profit and are running in the red. It is the regular students. The ones there to get a degree. Their fees and cost for the education go up.
If they don't like my ideas, they can let the whole thing die off because this is never going to end until they destroy college sports. -
Run, Forrest, Run.Postal91 said:HOLY FREAKING SHEET.... I'm rolling;
As a Pac-12 athlete on the track/xc team at Cal Berkeley, I’m proud to be a member of the college athlete community — though these injustices must be addressed with systemic reform that benefit all athletes. Until then, I’m opting out of the fall season ✊🏼 #WeAreUnited
https://twitter.com/RunAndrewCooper/status/1289935253469974534
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No better time to make big demands when you're probably not going to be playing and interest in what you do is falling rapidly. Sweet negotiating strategy.
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I have been on those calls asking people for donations. I have done it over 2 decades. Bad football then good football. It was a hell of a lot easier to get donations and pledges with good football. The worst was 79, 80 and 81. We were basically calling a bunch of drop acid and drop out hippies who hated the school. In the mid 90's it was much easier when football started to turn around. The Foundation had next to nothing in its coffers in the early 80's. It is flush now and they will be the first to tell you that it was due to athletic improvements. The problem will still be the fact that about 130 schools can't afford to start paying athletes. I keep hearing people from the big 5 stating that they don't care about the schools that would have to drop sports all together. Problem is, the networks aren't going to pay billions for a 40 team league and there are teams in all FBS leagues that are going to drop sports. This latest joke of a Pac 12 wish list wants players to take 50%. LOL! I do wonder how much would be enough? 50K per player? 100K?WestlinnDuck said:
It runs a lot deeper than the athletic department. The universities leverage off the athletic departments for a ton more than athletics. They get hundreds of millions donated for "education" from alumni who are connected primarily by football. No football, no donations.Bendintheriver said:The NFL and NBA need to set up their own developmental leagues for High School Seniors. Let the kids that see the value in a free education, food, clothing, books and the adoration of hundreds of thousands of fans use the scholarships.
27 athletic departments made money last year. Some articles claim it is in reality as few as 12 schools. This bullshit deal would literally put 100 out of business and we would have a league with maybe 27 schools in it.
I believe everyone knows who makes up the difference at the schools who don't show a profit and are running in the red. It is the regular students. The ones there to get a degree. Their fees and cost for the education go up.
If they don't like my ideas, they can let the whole thing die off because this is never going to end until they destroy college sports. -
Cal’s athletic department barely hangs on financially as it is. Is this guy who runs on trails as his skill on any sort of athletic scholarship? What a waste of money, if so.Postal91 said:HOLY FREAKING SHEET.... I'm rolling;
As a Pac-12 athlete on the track/xc team at Cal Berkeley, I’m proud to be a member of the college athlete community — though these injustices must be addressed with systemic reform that benefit all athletes. Until then, I’m opting out of the fall season ✊🏼 #WeAreUnited
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I really think he should be the change and give his scholarship to someone that is less fortunate and a person of color. Why take their spot?NorthwestFresh said:
Cal’s athletic department barely hangs on financially as it is. Is this guy who runs on trails as his skill on any sort of athletic scholarship? What a waste of money, if so.Postal91 said:HOLY FREAKING SHEET.... I'm rolling;
As a Pac-12 athlete on the track/xc team at Cal Berkeley, I’m proud to be a member of the college athlete community — though these injustices must be addressed with systemic reform that benefit all athletes. Until then, I’m opting out of the fall season ✊🏼 #WeAreUnited
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I can’t tell if this Cooper guy is on scholarship but I did find out he’s a WSU graduate from Issaquah who is in Grad school at Cal and took 65th in the Pac12 XC championship last year. Basically a rich white kid walk-on looking for attention.Postal91 said:
I really think he should be the change and give his scholarship to someone that is less fortunate and a person of color. Why take their spot?NorthwestFresh said:
Cal’s athletic department barely hangs on financially as it is. Is this guy who runs on trails as his skill on any sort of athletic scholarship? What a waste of money, if so.Postal91 said:HOLY FREAKING SHEET.... I'm rolling;
As a Pac-12 athlete on the track/xc team at Cal Berkeley, I’m proud to be a member of the college athlete community — though these injustices must be addressed with systemic reform that benefit all athletes. Until then, I’m opting out of the fall season ✊🏼 #WeAreUnited
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I laughed when I read that demand ... if I was a negotiator in this I'd have no problem calling out hypocritical bullshit on that one.RaceBannon said:I like to pick a school based on lavish facilities and use them to train for a career then demand that they be abolished
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6. Due process rights
Agree with this one. Students being booted from schools and scholarships by a student board based on the claims of some SJW co-ed is just wrong. It’s part of the deal, though. So, reconsidered, fuck off. -
Thought this was relevant even if a few months ago. Those poor sportsball slaves choosing to take full-ride scholarships to play Sports Ball. Blazers are on now and we’re? all at the driving range as a family.
Normally watching Lillard would be my afternoon. This Wazzu clown is pushing me further away.
Coug It!
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At this point, I’m strongly considering a refund on my two Ducks tickets, as is being offered. DAF money is lost, but I’ll give up my seats for any suckers who want to take them over. What’s the point if these spoiled kids don’t realize the opportunity they are being given to play a sport and get an education? They even get tutors for free.
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NorthwestFresh said:
Thought this was relevant even if a few months ago. Those poor sportsball slaves choosing to take full-ride scholarships to play Sports Ball. Blazers are on now and we’re? all at the driving range as a family.
Normally watching Lillard would be my afternoon. This Wazzu clown is pushing me further away.
Coug It!
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Distribute 50% of each sport’s total conference revenue evenly among athletes in their respective sports.
So only pay athletes in money making sports? The others will take the negative revenues and add it to their yearly costs?
Or do they want the total revenues divided equally to each sport?
Or am I stupid and don't know how to interpret what I read? (if this was a pole I select this one)
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Very convenient for the four Duck players that are the face of the movement . Two are seniors and the other two (juniors) will go out after this year. Foregoing this season won’t hurt them at all. Penei Sewell will be a very high first round draft pick.NorthwestFresh said:At this point, I’m strongly considering a refund on my two Ducks tickets, as is being offered. DAF money is lost, but I’ll give up my seats for any suckers who want to take them over. What’s the point if these spoiled kids don’t realize the opportunity they are being given to play a sport and get an education? They even get tutors for free.
If they persist and the season is cancelled, they better hope the other conferences (SEC, Big 10, ACC et al) follow suit.
