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  • Member Posts: 37,711 Standard Supporter
    Have rentals and have been selling them off when I can. A few left fortunately they've been paying their rent.
  • Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,223 Founders Club
    @RaceBannon you planning on getting back in the eviction bidness?
  • Member Posts: 15,072
    Hey, Brandon Leyritz, shut the fuck up. You gambled, you lost. The risks were always there whether you saw them or not.

    Nobody should bail you out. Be thankful you live in the US where there is no debtors prison. Stalling your financial wipeout only hurts you at this point.

    Call Softy and ask him to ask his Rent-A-State experts for a couple of BK attorney referrals, make the call, give it all back and start over.
  • Member Posts: 20,035 Standard Supporter
    doogie said:

    Hey, Brandon Leyritz, shut the fuck up. You gambled, you lost. The risks were always there whether you saw them or not.

    Nobody should bail you out. Be thankful you live in the US where there is no debtors prison. Stalling your financial wipeout only hurts you at this point.

    Call Softy and ask him to ask his Rent-A-State experts for a couple of BK attorney referrals, make the call, give it all back and start over.

    You sound like an asshole. And a loser. And a leech.

    Trifecta. Congrats.
  • Member Posts: 7,965 Standard Supporter
  • Member Posts: 17,556 Standard Supporter
    Trouble with a REIT is that commercial real estate has just started to tank. No tenants, no rents, no REIT dividend. But I agree that you aren't dealing with maintenance issues if you just hold stock.
  • Member Posts: 15,072

    You sound like an asshole. And a loser. And a leech.

    Trifecta. Congrats.
    Live by leverage, die by leverage.
  • Member Posts: 20,035 Standard Supporter

    I never want to be in the landlord bidness ever. I know I'm dumb and pour but I don't have the patience for it. A man's gotta know his limitations.
    Start in Residential, acquire, then flip to Commercial.

    Stay in Residential and eventually one POS, insolvent squatter will ruin your portfolio.

    Inslee has destroyed a bunch of small LLs in the past 6 months. I hope he pays for it.
  • Member Posts: 20,035 Standard Supporter
    Goduckies said:

    Buy a reit

    Risky with what's going on in our cities. With WFH, and all the malls dying and getting re-developed, it could be gangbusters in the burbs in a few years.
  • Member Posts: 24,032

    Risky with what's going on in our cities. With WFH, and all the malls dying and getting re-developed, it could be gangbusters in the burbs in a few years.
    Agreed. Office REITs are going to take it in the ass.
  • Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,056 Founders Club

    I never want to be in the landlord bidness ever. I know I'm dumb and pour but I don't have the patience for it. A man's gotta know his limitations.
    Minus rents(which are high risk) the market pays more per year in returns than property.
  • Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,223 Founders Club

    Minus rents(which are high risk) the market pays more per year in returns than property.
    All real estate is local. If you can buy and hold properties in markets that will appreciate you’ll get rich. But in so many markets, there’s no appreciation after inflation is accounted for.
  • Member Posts: 20,035 Standard Supporter

    All real estate is local. If you can buy and hold properties in markets that will appreciate you’ll get rich. But in so many markets, there’s no appreciation after inflation is accounted for.
    I don't worry about appreciation as long as the tenants are buying and maintaining the building for me.
  • Member Posts: 12,369

    Start in Residential, acquire, then flip to Commercial.

    Stay in Residential and eventually one POS, insolvent squatter will ruin your portfolio.

    Inslee has destroyed a bunch of small LLs in the past 6 months. I hope he pays for it.
    I made $2M + in residential in less than 5 years, sold, 1099'd, rolled the profits into safe commercial deals with iron clad tenants. 2008/09 came along. I ended up stroking the banks $50,000 in cash and walked away "unscathed". All my eckities, gone. Just gone. Not a CSB.
  • Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,223 Founders Club

    I don't worry about appreciation as long as the tenants are buying and maintaining the building for me.
    I hear ya. It’s just not for me. I’d rather just buy my primary residence in and invest other capital elsewhere. At least I’m not paying someone else’s mortgage so that’s a good thing.
  • Member Posts: 20,035 Standard Supporter
    Baseman said:

    I made $2M + in residential in less than 5 years, sold, 1099'd, rolled the profits into safe commercial deals with iron clad tenants. 2008/09 came along. I ended up stroking the banks $50,000 in cash and walked away "unscathed". All my eckities, gone. Just gone. Not a CSB.
    That was doable back then. I had buddies who retired in their early 40's during that time.

    I also had buddies who had negative net worth for a couple years, and other than their spoiled-rotten cunt wives divorcing them and taking their primary residences, bounced back better than ever within a couple years, realizing that they'd have been way better off if they'd dumped the non-working witch many years before.

    Which all goes to say that most women don't and never will understand where money comes from. They just want it.
  • Member Posts: 20,035 Standard Supporter

    There’s more high earning chicks out there than you might think.
    I'm talking about the prototypical stay at home mom in Issaquah or Sammamish.
  • Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,056 Founders Club
    Baseman said:

    I made $2M + in residential in less than 5 years, sold, 1099'd, rolled the profits into safe commercial deals with iron clad tenants. 2008/09 came along. I ended up stroking the banks $50,000 in cash and walked away "unscathed". All my eckities, gone. Just gone. Not a CSB.
    Should have invested in bitcoin.
  • Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,739 Founders Club

    There’s more high earning chicks out there than you might think.
    @BearsWiin true?!?!?!?!?!?!!?!?
  • Member Posts: 14,559
    edited August 2020

    I never want to be in the landlord bidness ever. I know I'm dumb and pour but I don't have the patience for it. A man's gotta know his limitations.
    You aren’t dumb. You’re actually thinking ahead. The landlord business is still very profitable over time once you consider the free equity you build through rent payments. However...that will soon change. Once more and more states implement rent increase caps and more and more tenant friendly eviction policies, the residential landlord business will dry up. Commercial will still be the way to go, but it’s difficult to have the funds to go right into it. You might have to be part of a partnership first.

    It will actually be a great time in the near future to buy a vacation home. As the residential landlord business falters, the housing prices will as well. Opening up a great opportunity to purchase a secondary beach house, lake cabin, farm cottage, or a mountain getaway, at a better price.
  • Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 5,627 Founders Club

    You aren’t dumb. You’re actually thinking ahead. The landlord business is still very profitable over time once you consider the free equity you build through rent payments. However...that will soon change. Once more and more states implement rent increase caps and more and more tenant friendly eviction policies, the residential landlord business will dry up. Commercial will still be the way to go, but it’s difficult to have the funds to go right into it. You might have to be part of a partnership first.

    It will actually be a great time in the near future to buy a vacation home. As the residential landlord business falters, the housing prices will as well. Opening up a great opportunity to purchase a secondary beach house, lake cabin, farm cottage, or a mountain getaway, at a better price.
    Thats my hope and my goal. Buy that beach house in a couple years and rent out my country home in Arlington. Working at a grocery store I have access to a bunch of twenty and thirty somethings that would be very interested in renting a house with property where they can garden, have a big dog, build a bon fire, blow off fireworks, shoot guns, or nestle in next to the wood stove on a cold winter night while paying a little less than they do for their shitty apartment in Everett or Lynnwood. When the housing market rises again after that, I sell the Arlington house and pocket the cash. I'm with Yellow, I don't want to be a landlord for long. Just long enough for the market to crash and rebuild.

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