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Brock Bowers, 2021 4* TE, Napa (HS), CA (Offered 9/11)

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  • HoustonHusky
    HoustonHusky Member Posts: 6,011

    Beno4Life said:

    I have a good feeling about this one

    Look, I'm all for the purple-colored Kool Aid glasses or whatever stupid Doogman euphemism you want to use in lieu of optimism, but why are some of you so bullish on Cato being able to land Bowers? He's a massive Georgia lean. Just read the two trip reports and judge for yourself. Reads similar to Chance Tucker's reports between the Irish and UW.

    Still bummed I'm not hearing as much about academics and Built For Life on these trip reports than about development. Why not all? Jesus, we just set a NCAA APR record. That's how you're gonna convince a kid and, more importantly, his parents to come to UW. Clearly, Jimmy's not Pete and he's evolved from BFL to NFL development, but still. SO. MUCH. TO. SELL at UW.

    Another reason why this offseason has been so depressing. Cristoballz has a ho-hum first year and lands the number 1 class last year. We have a ho-hum 2019 campaign and we forgot how to sell a school who has a record of NFL development, academics, the best fanbase in the league, and a rich history that includes a Playoff appearance and two league championships just in the last four years.

    Anyway, c'mon, Cato! C'mon Sam! C'mon, Jimmy!
    4 and 5 stars generally don't care about academics. If they do, they usually go to Stanford or Notre Dame. UW would be best served selling development above all else, because that's their strength. Oregon sells flash, because that's what they are good at. Sticking to your strengths typically works better in the long run. High level 3 star kids, the academia might work better with.
    Their parents do...its the sales pitch to them that needs to happen and doesn't look like it is.
  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,566
    edited July 2020

    Beno4Life said:

    I have a good feeling about this one

    Look, I'm all for the purple-colored Kool Aid glasses or whatever stupid Doogman euphemism you want to use in lieu of optimism, but why are some of you so bullish on Cato being able to land Bowers? He's a massive Georgia lean. Just read the two trip reports and judge for yourself. Reads similar to Chance Tucker's reports between the Irish and UW.

    Still bummed I'm not hearing as much about academics and Built For Life on these trip reports than about development. Why not all? Jesus, we just set a NCAA APR record. That's how you're gonna convince a kid and, more importantly, his parents to come to UW. Clearly, Jimmy's not Pete and he's evolved from BFL to NFL development, but still. SO. MUCH. TO. SELL at UW.

    Another reason why this offseason has been so depressing. Cristoballz has a ho-hum first year and lands the number 1 class last year. We have a ho-hum 2019 campaign and we forgot how to sell a school who has a record of NFL development, academics, the best fanbase in the league, and a rich history that includes a Playoff appearance and two league championships just in the last four years.

    Anyway, c'mon, Cato! C'mon Sam! C'mon, Jimmy!
    4 and 5 stars generally don't care about academics. If they do, they usually go to Stanford or Notre Dame. UW would be best served selling development above all else, because that's their strength. Oregon sells flash, because that's what they are good at. Sticking to your strengths typically works better in the long run. High level 3 star kids, the academia might work better with.
    Their parents do...its the sales pitch to them that needs to happen and doesn't look like it is.
    Most 4 and 5 star parents see their kids as NFL talent. High profile prospect families care more about the relationship the coach will have with their player. Will the coach be a father figure, while the son is away? They really just want a coach that will keep their kid out of trouble and develop him to become a NFL draftee, more so than the academic part of it. To these parents, their goal for their son isn't a career in pharmacy and medicine.
  • animate
    animate Member Posts: 4,245
    All this shit.

    Parents who have experience in the NFL or are already successful will tend to value the education and built fo life shit more.


    See: Julius Irvin

    But yeah, parents of 4/5 stars typically recognize that this is their shot at the big leagues and it's all about selling and development and selling some more.
  • 1to392831weretaken
    1to392831weretaken Member Posts: 7,696
    Baseman said:

    Beno4Life said:

    I have a good feeling about this one

    Look, I'm all for the purple-colored Kool Aid glasses or whatever stupid Doogman euphemism you want to use in lieu of optimism, but why are some of you so bullish on Cato being able to land Bowers? He's a massive Georgia lean. Just read the two trip reports and judge for yourself. Reads similar to Chance Tucker's reports between the Irish and UW.

    Still bummed I'm not hearing as much about academics and Built For Life on these trip reports than about development. Why not all? Jesus, we just set a NCAA APR record. That's how you're gonna convince a kid and, more importantly, his parents to come to UW. Clearly, Jimmy's not Pete and he's evolved from BFL to NFL development, but still. SO. MUCH. TO. SELL at UW.

    Another reason why this offseason has been so depressing. Cristoballz has a ho-hum first year and lands the number 1 class last year. We have a ho-hum 2019 campaign and we forgot how to sell a school who has a record of NFL development, academics, the best fanbase in the league, and a rich history that includes a Playoff appearance and two league championships just in the last four years.

    Anyway, c'mon, Cato! C'mon Sam! C'mon, Jimmy!
    4 and 5 stars generally don't care about academics. If they do, they usually go to Stanford or Notre Dame. UW would be best served selling development above all else, because that's their strength. Oregon sells flash, because that's what they are good at. Sticking to your strengths typically works better in the long run. High level 3 star kids, the academia might work better with.
    This. We need to hire more Oregon grads. It's like they know how to market, or something.
    #ScoWarEagle?
  • Emoterman
    Emoterman Member Posts: 3,333

    Beno4Life said:

    I have a good feeling about this one

    Look, I'm all for the purple-colored Kool Aid glasses or whatever stupid Doogman euphemism you want to use in lieu of optimism, but why are some of you so bullish on Cato being able to land Bowers? He's a massive Georgia lean. Just read the two trip reports and judge for yourself. Reads similar to Chance Tucker's reports between the Irish and UW.

    Still bummed I'm not hearing as much about academics and Built For Life on these trip reports than about development. Why not all? Jesus, we just set a NCAA APR record. That's how you're gonna convince a kid and, more importantly, his parents to come to UW. Clearly, Jimmy's not Pete and he's evolved from BFL to NFL development, but still. SO. MUCH. TO. SELL at UW.

    Another reason why this offseason has been so depressing. Cristoballz has a ho-hum first year and lands the number 1 class last year. We have a ho-hum 2019 campaign and we forgot how to sell a school who has a record of NFL development, academics, the best fanbase in the league, and a rich history that includes a Playoff appearance and two league championships just in the last four years.

    Anyway, c'mon, Cato! C'mon Sam! C'mon, Jimmy!
    4 and 5 stars generally don't care about academics. If they do, they usually go to Stanford or Notre Dame. UW would be best served selling development above all else, because that's their strength. Oregon sells flash, because that's what they are good at. Sticking to your strengths typically works better in the long run. High level 3 star kids, the academia might work better with.


    Ummmmmmmm.........

    https://hardcorehusky.com/discussion/comment/1225381/#Comment_1225381
  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,566
    Emoterman said:

    Beno4Life said:

    I have a good feeling about this one

    Look, I'm all for the purple-colored Kool Aid glasses or whatever stupid Doogman euphemism you want to use in lieu of optimism, but why are some of you so bullish on Cato being able to land Bowers? He's a massive Georgia lean. Just read the two trip reports and judge for yourself. Reads similar to Chance Tucker's reports between the Irish and UW.

    Still bummed I'm not hearing as much about academics and Built For Life on these trip reports than about development. Why not all? Jesus, we just set a NCAA APR record. That's how you're gonna convince a kid and, more importantly, his parents to come to UW. Clearly, Jimmy's not Pete and he's evolved from BFL to NFL development, but still. SO. MUCH. TO. SELL at UW.

    Another reason why this offseason has been so depressing. Cristoballz has a ho-hum first year and lands the number 1 class last year. We have a ho-hum 2019 campaign and we forgot how to sell a school who has a record of NFL development, academics, the best fanbase in the league, and a rich history that includes a Playoff appearance and two league championships just in the last four years.

    Anyway, c'mon, Cato! C'mon Sam! C'mon, Jimmy!
    4 and 5 stars generally don't care about academics. If they do, they usually go to Stanford or Notre Dame. UW would be best served selling development above all else, because that's their strength. Oregon sells flash, because that's what they are good at. Sticking to your strengths typically works better in the long run. High level 3 star kids, the academia might work better with.


    Ummmmmmmm.........

    https://hardcorehusky.com/discussion/comment/1225381/#Comment_1225381
    Yeah....sorry, Jimmy is fucked for 2021
  • MakaDawg
    MakaDawg Member Posts: 492

    The whole academic BFL thing was a big part of why UW attracted some of its best classes ever under CP. Jimmy is just not the same salesman as CP, doesn't have the clout. the "aura" or a track record.

    He needs to figure it out.

    But I thought he had the recipe??
  • dannarc
    dannarc Member Posts: 2,744
    MakaDawg said:

    The whole academic BFL thing was a big part of why UW attracted some of its best classes ever under CP. Jimmy is just not the same salesman as CP, doesn't have the clout. the "aura" or a track record.

    He needs to figure it out.

    But I thought he had the recipe??
    Needs more salt