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https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/crunch-time-arrives-and-was-everyone-wrong-about-coronavirus
One week ago, when looking at the growing divergence between the number of new coronavirus cases in the US and shrinking number of fatalities, we referred to Nordea's strategist Andreas Steno Larsen, who observed that "we are entering “crunch time” on fatalities since they should start to rise in early July given the lead/lag structure versus new cases."
As Larsen further predicted, "if fatalities don’t spike early in July, then people will conclude that it’s probably spreading amongst a part of the population that is not as sensitive, or that it is a resulted of increased testing or that the virus has become less deadly as we move into the summer months. Governors in Texas, California and Florida seem to have concluded that the below correlation holds, but the jury is still out."
His conclusion was that "the next 6-10 days will be crucial."
Well, one week later, we decided to follow up on the current status and... there is still no spike in fatalities at either the federal level...
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Why do you want one person’s great-grandma to die? If it saves ONE LIFE...
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The Vid is having a very good day. -
Keep hope alive. Next week will be crucial if the leftists want to shut down again.
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Therefore you’re having a good day.HHusky said:This poast will age poorly.
The Vid is having a very good day. -
Imagine hating Trump so much that you’re happy the ‘vid had a good day. Grim.HHusky said:This poast will age poorly.
The Vid is having a very good day. -
As much as I want to agree, you are assuming that the majority of people die within a week of getting COVID, that isn't the case. As it has gone on, hospitals have been able to prolong even the worst of cases. We won't be seeing true outcomes for this recent spike until about the end of the month. I hope this chart holds, but we just don't know. That's why I'm pro mask requirements, but completely against shutdowns.
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Found one of the few people watching the Telethon Death Scoreboard on CNN. Call now to donate!HHusky said:This poast will age poorly.
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18 days. But 36 days after Memorial Day. Maybe 54 days after July 4th.greenblood said:As much as I want to agree, you are assuming that the majority of people die within a week of getting COVID, that isn't the case. As it has gone on, hospitals have been able to prolong even the worst of cases. We won't be seeing true outcomes for this recent spike until about the end of the month. I hope this chart holds, but we just don't know. That's why I'm pro mask requirements, but completely against shutdowns.
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If you squint and kind of blur your eyes, those graphs look like stacks of cordwood.
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Needs more tim
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In other words, "Scoreboard Baby!"NorthwestFresh said:
Found one of the few people watching the Telethon Death Scoreboard on CNN. Call now to donate!HHusky said:This poast will age poorly.
The Vid is having a very good day.
But you don't want anyone looking at the scoreboard.
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What's the death rate? How is the curve looking?HHusky said:
In other words, "Scoreboard Baby!"NorthwestFresh said:
Found one of the few people watching the Telethon Death Scoreboard on CNN. Call now to donate!HHusky said:This poast will age poorly.
The Vid is having a very good day.
But you don't want anyone looking at the scoreboard.
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My point being, I don't think cases vs death rate is accurate do to changing medical practices in fighting the virus. I think you need to have a combination of this with hospital capacity usage to find out how bad it is. From what I've seen, the hospitals are not even close to capacity yet in the majority of areas.MikeDamone said:
18 days. But 36 days after Memorial Day. Maybe 54 days after July 4th.greenblood said:As much as I want to agree, you are assuming that the majority of people die within a week of getting COVID, that isn't the case. As it has gone on, hospitals have been able to prolong even the worst of cases. We won't be seeing true outcomes for this recent spike until about the end of the month. I hope this chart holds, but we just don't know. That's why I'm pro mask requirements, but completely against shutdowns.
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How long until HH bites off of IC and claims that he was “just trolling all of us”?
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He admitted that in a PM to me years ago on The Shed. Still, his trolling sucks because he just isn’t very smart, so it’s fun to point and laugh even though I’m in on the ruse.thechatch said:How long until HH bites off of IC and claims that he was “just trolling all of us”?
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https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/cdc-adds-to-list-of-symptoms-for-covid-19/
“In mid-May, the CDC quietly added congestion, runny nose, nausea or vomiting, and diarrhea as signs of COVID-19.“
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After our beach trip I caught a cold. It was grim but I'm fighting back. Runny nose. Some gas. Pray for me
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Not sure how many times I have to repeat this(not admonishing you Greenblood) but we have now had 40,000,000 tests for covid. Compare that to the amount of tests we had in March and April.greenblood said:
My point being, I don't think cases vs death rate is accurate do to changing medical practices in fighting the virus. I think you need to have a combination of this with hospital capacity usage to find out how bad it is. From what I've seen, the hospitals are not even close to capacity yet in the majority of areas.MikeDamone said:
18 days. But 36 days after Memorial Day. Maybe 54 days after July 4th.greenblood said:As much as I want to agree, you are assuming that the majority of people die within a week of getting COVID, that isn't the case. As it has gone on, hospitals have been able to prolong even the worst of cases. We won't be seeing true outcomes for this recent spike until about the end of the month. I hope this chart holds, but we just don't know. That's why I'm pro mask requirements, but completely against shutdowns.
Secondly, compare the death rates now to back when democrat governors like Cuomo were brilliantly sticking the sick in with the most vulnerable in assisted living homes and you can see the picture perfectly clear.
Thirdly, Trump and crew have prepared the Gov's with so many services and drugs to combat covirus that when you combine taking away democrat governors stupidity, the increased testing and the latest treatments this administration has logistically supplied the nation with, the death count is nowhere near what it was. In one more week they will have to take away the designation of "Pandemic".
Facts be damned, HH will still be in his basement in his bubble boy environment suit hoping for more deaths.
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Close. I'll be on a plane and then driving halfway across the country this month.Bendintheriver said:
Not sure how many times I have to repeat this(not admonishing you Greenblood) but we have now had 40,000,000 tests for covid. Compare that to the amount of tests we had in March and April.greenblood said:
My point being, I don't think cases vs death rate is accurate do to changing medical practices in fighting the virus. I think you need to have a combination of this with hospital capacity usage to find out how bad it is. From what I've seen, the hospitals are not even close to capacity yet in the majority of areas.MikeDamone said:
18 days. But 36 days after Memorial Day. Maybe 54 days after July 4th.greenblood said:As much as I want to agree, you are assuming that the majority of people die within a week of getting COVID, that isn't the case. As it has gone on, hospitals have been able to prolong even the worst of cases. We won't be seeing true outcomes for this recent spike until about the end of the month. I hope this chart holds, but we just don't know. That's why I'm pro mask requirements, but completely against shutdowns.
Secondly, compare the death rates now to back when democrat governors like Cuomo were brilliantly sticking the sick in with the most vulnerable in assisted living homes and you can see the picture perfectly clear.
Thirdly, Trump and crew have prepared the Gov's with so many services and drugs to combat covirus that when you combine taking away democrat governors stupidity, the increased testing and the latest treatments this administration has logistically supplied the nation with, the death count is nowhere near what it was. In one more week they will have to take away the designation of "Pandemic".
Facts be damned, HH will still be in his basement in his bubble boy environment suit hoping for more deaths.
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Strange.HHusky said:
Close. I'll be on a plane and then driving halfway across the country this month.Bendintheriver said:
Not sure how many times I have to repeat this(not admonishing you Greenblood) but we have now had 40,000,000 tests for covid. Compare that to the amount of tests we had in March and April.greenblood said:
My point being, I don't think cases vs death rate is accurate do to changing medical practices in fighting the virus. I think you need to have a combination of this with hospital capacity usage to find out how bad it is. From what I've seen, the hospitals are not even close to capacity yet in the majority of areas.MikeDamone said:
18 days. But 36 days after Memorial Day. Maybe 54 days after July 4th.greenblood said:As much as I want to agree, you are assuming that the majority of people die within a week of getting COVID, that isn't the case. As it has gone on, hospitals have been able to prolong even the worst of cases. We won't be seeing true outcomes for this recent spike until about the end of the month. I hope this chart holds, but we just don't know. That's why I'm pro mask requirements, but completely against shutdowns.
Secondly, compare the death rates now to back when democrat governors like Cuomo were brilliantly sticking the sick in with the most vulnerable in assisted living homes and you can see the picture perfectly clear.
Thirdly, Trump and crew have prepared the Gov's with so many services and drugs to combat covirus that when you combine taking away democrat governors stupidity, the increased testing and the latest treatments this administration has logistically supplied the nation with, the death count is nowhere near what it was. In one more week they will have to take away the designation of "Pandemic".
Facts be damned, HH will still be in his basement in his bubble boy environment suit hoping for more deaths.
Don't hate me because I'm always right.
You haven't been "right" yet.
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Next time will be the first timeHHusky said:
Close. I'll be on a plane and then driving halfway across the country this month.Bendintheriver said:
Not sure how many times I have to repeat this(not admonishing you Greenblood) but we have now had 40,000,000 tests for covid. Compare that to the amount of tests we had in March and April.greenblood said:
My point being, I don't think cases vs death rate is accurate do to changing medical practices in fighting the virus. I think you need to have a combination of this with hospital capacity usage to find out how bad it is. From what I've seen, the hospitals are not even close to capacity yet in the majority of areas.MikeDamone said:
18 days. But 36 days after Memorial Day. Maybe 54 days after July 4th.greenblood said:As much as I want to agree, you are assuming that the majority of people die within a week of getting COVID, that isn't the case. As it has gone on, hospitals have been able to prolong even the worst of cases. We won't be seeing true outcomes for this recent spike until about the end of the month. I hope this chart holds, but we just don't know. That's why I'm pro mask requirements, but completely against shutdowns.
Secondly, compare the death rates now to back when democrat governors like Cuomo were brilliantly sticking the sick in with the most vulnerable in assisted living homes and you can see the picture perfectly clear.
Thirdly, Trump and crew have prepared the Gov's with so many services and drugs to combat covirus that when you combine taking away democrat governors stupidity, the increased testing and the latest treatments this administration has logistically supplied the nation with, the death count is nowhere near what it was. In one more week they will have to take away the designation of "Pandemic".
Facts be damned, HH will still be in his basement in his bubble boy environment suit hoping for more deaths.
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What’s less right HH’s hot takes or HH’s politics?
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Liberalism is a mental disorder.
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Bob_C said:
https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/cdc-adds-to-list-of-symptoms-for-covid-19/
“In mid-May, the CDC quietly added congestion, runny nose, nausea or vomiting, and diarrhea as signs of COVID-19.“
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HH pen that?NorthwestFresh said:Liberalism is a mental disorder.
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yes. ICU occupancy flattening/trending up is in fact grim. Infections have been skyrocketing since Memorial Day and only now is hospitalizations going up. That is the first lagging indicator, deaths is the second and we now know that about 5% carry on with post-viral fatigue symptoms so that's fun!Houhusky said:Grim
It's really fucking stupid to look at an out of control virus with literally no end in sight that is holding back our economy from re-opening, preventing Americans from traveling, not to mention has already killed 120k Americans and is projected to kill much more and pretend like shit is fine cause fewer people are dying right now than in April. -
Yes. More testing along with your Democrat team cramming millions of people into protests raised cases. Why are you liberals so fucking stupid? It’s so easy shredding you dolts.incremetal_progress said:
yes. ICU occupancy flattening/trending up is in fact grim. Infections have been skyrocketing since Memorial Day and only now is hospitalizations going up. That is the first lagging indicator, deaths is the second and we now know that about 5% carry on with post-viral fatigue symptoms so that's fun!Houhusky said:Grim
It's really fucking stupid to look at an out of control virus with literally no end in sight that is holding back our economy from re-opening, preventing Americans from traveling, not to mention has already killed 120k Americans and is projected to kill much more and pretend like shit is fine cause fewer people are dying right now than in April. -
What day can we expect the deaths to come in?incremetal_progress said:
yes. ICU occupancy flattening/trending up is in fact grim. Infections have been skyrocketing since Memorial Day and only now is hospitalizations going up. That is the first lagging indicator, deaths is the second and we now know that about 5% carry on with post-viral fatigue symptoms so that's fun!Houhusky said:Grim
It's really fucking stupid to look at an out of control virus with literally no end in sight that is holding back our economy from re-opening, preventing Americans from traveling, not to mention has already killed 120k Americans and is projected to kill much more and pretend like shit is fine cause fewer people are dying right now than in April. -
LOL yes team Democrat "crammed" people in to protest. Maybe the outrage was a spontaneous reaction to black people being murdered by cops, but IDK. If these cases were all about fucking protests why aren't New York and Seattle spiking?NorthwestFresh said:
Yes. More testing along with your Democrat team cramming millions of people into protests raised cases. Why are you liberals so fucking stupid? It’s so easy shredding you dolts.incremetal_progress said:
yes. ICU occupancy flattening/trending up is in fact grim. Infections have been skyrocketing since Memorial Day and only now is hospitalizations going up. That is the first lagging indicator, deaths is the second and we now know that about 5% carry on with post-viral fatigue symptoms so that's fun!Houhusky said:Grim
It's really fucking stupid to look at an out of control virus with literally no end in sight that is holding back our economy from re-opening, preventing Americans from traveling, not to mention has already killed 120k Americans and is projected to kill much more and pretend like shit is fine cause fewer people are dying right now than in April.
soon.Bob_C said:
What day can we expect the deaths to come in?incremetal_progress said:
yes. ICU occupancy flattening/trending up is in fact grim. Infections have been skyrocketing since Memorial Day and only now is hospitalizations going up. That is the first lagging indicator, deaths is the second and we now know that about 5% carry on with post-viral fatigue symptoms so that's fun!Houhusky said:Grim
It's really fucking stupid to look at an out of control virus with literally no end in sight that is holding back our economy from re-opening, preventing Americans from traveling, not to mention has already killed 120k Americans and is projected to kill much more and pretend like shit is fine cause fewer people are dying right now than in April.
