ESPN writer's take on John Donovan from covering him at Penn State
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Donovan had Barkley, Chris Godwin, Daeshon Hamilton, and Mike Gesicki. There was no excuse to be 101st in points. He was really bad. There is a reason he was Asst RB coach in Jacksonville.
Hackenberg did suck, but he was worse with Donovan than he was before. -
I will say the OL talent he had was god fucking awfulRoadDawg55 said:Donovan had Barkley, Chris Godwin, Daeshon Hamilton, and Mike Gesicki. There was no excuse to be 101st in points. He was really bad. There is a reason he was Asst RB coach in Jacksonville.
Hackenberg did suck, but he was worse with Donovan than he was before. -
I believe it, but they were good enough to make the Rose Bowl the next year. He was a huge part of the problem. The only doog hope is that Hackenberg was truly that big of cancer.backthepack said:
I will say the OL talent he had was god fucking awfulRoadDawg55 said:Donovan had Barkley, Chris Godwin, Daeshon Hamilton, and Mike Gesicki. There was no excuse to be 101st in points. He was really bad. There is a reason he was Asst RB coach in Jacksonville.
Hackenberg did suck, but he was worse with Donovan than he was before. -
I'm hearing he's a big fan of racial slurs
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The Donovan PSU team simply didn't have experience and depth. Barkley, McSorley, Gesicki and other pivotal guys were Freshmen. The OL had some talent but wasn't a consistent unit. Hackemberg was shot and Franklin was encroaching on JD's play calling duties.
It was a nightmare. Moorhead takes over gets young players with a bit more experience but even better has a mobile QB and a TE in addition to all world RB. Defense is coming together. He's got a lot more options. Moorhead gets hype ...parlays into a HC position at Hail State and then in only two seasons he shits down his leg.
We could say the same thing about Moorhead. If he's an offensive genius why did Hail State's offense suck? Because it doesn't matter if you're a world class sniper if you don't have the bullets -
Except he did have bullets. He had enough to not be 101st in scoring.DawgDaze71 said:The Donovan PSU team simply didn't have experience and depth. Barkley, McSorley, Gesicki and other pivotal guys were Freshmen. The OL had some talent but wasn't a consistent unit. Hackemberg was shot and Franklin was encroaching on JD's play calling duties.
It was a nightmare. Moorhead takes over gets young players with a bit more experience but even better has a mobile QB and a TE in addition to all world RB. Defense is coming together. He's got a lot more options. Moorhead gets hype ...parlays into a HC position at Hail State and then in only two seasons he shits down his leg.
We could say the same thing about Moorhead. If he's an offensive genius why did Hail State's offense suck? Because it doesn't matter if you're a world class sniper if you don't have the bullets -
Not the best choice of words for this board. Were you around in 2005?DawgDaze71 said:Because it doesn't matter if you're a world class sniper if you don't have the bullets
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We are fucked duh as always but I want to prolong the inevitable as much as possible, so I don’t go crazy before the seasonRoadDawg55 said:
I believe it, but they were good enough to make the Rose Bowl the next year. He was a huge part of the problem. The only doog hope is that Hackenberg was truly that big of cancer.backthepack said:
I will say the OL talent he had was god fucking awfulRoadDawg55 said:Donovan had Barkley, Chris Godwin, Daeshon Hamilton, and Mike Gesicki. There was no excuse to be 101st in points. He was really bad. There is a reason he was Asst RB coach in Jacksonville.
Hackenberg did suck, but he was worse with Donovan than he was before. -
I am very happy that UW hired Donovan.
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I don't mind people saying JD sucks until he doesn't because he does have something to prove. I think that's howthechatch said:I am very happy that UW hired Donovan.
Jimmy closed him. Jimmy probably told Donovan "I'm a Defensive guy I don't call plays. The show would be yours"
Donovan, after being scapegoated, wants to be back in the saddle as long as he's in that saddle alone. He was good
at Vandy and let's be real our team today has much more talent than his best Vandy team.
Another thing I've noticed along with Coker. A lot of players are hitting the weight room a bit harder than they have in
years past. Hmmmm could it be that players be signaling that they understand Jimmy's loyalty are different than Petersen's
loyalty and CP liking you = playing time is an bygone era now?
If Jimmy has to keep Boner and BogGreg on staff we're damn sure he's playing the best kid.
If John Donovan can't win this crew ...he should hang it up.
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The kids are working harder than ever?DawgDaze71 said:
Another thing I've noticed along with Coker. A lot of players are hitting the weight room a bit harder than they have in
years past. Hmmmm could it be that players be signaling that they understand Jimmy's loyalty are different than Petersen's
loyalty and CP liking you = playing time is an bygone era now? -
Was hoping for a charge of racism for my Donovan haters
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Ok Ok I'll buy Grammarly.PurpleBaze said:
The kids are working harder than ever?DawgDaze71 said:
Another thing I've noticed along with Coker. A lot of players are hitting the weight room a bit harder than they have in
years past. Hmmmm could it be that players be signaling that they understand Jimmy's loyalty are different than Petersen's
loyalty and CP liking you = playing time is an bygone era now?
Race I'm pretty sure it was Donovan that left that noose for Bubba Wallace. -
DawgDaze71 said:
I don't mind people saying JD sucks until he doesn't because he does have something to prove. I think that's howthechatch said:I am very happy that UW hired Donovan.
Jimmy closed him. Jimmy probably told Donovan "I'm a Defensive guy I don't call plays. The show would be yours"
Donovan, after being scapegoated, wants to be back in the saddle as long as he's in that saddle alone. He was good
at Vandy and let's be real our team today has much more talent than his best Vandy team.
Another thing I've noticed along with Coker. A lot of players are hitting the weight room a bit harder than they have in
years past. Hmmmm could it be that players be signaling that they understand Jimmy's loyalty are different than Petersen's
loyalty and CP liking you = playing time is an bygone era now?
If Jimmy has to keep Boner and BogGreg on staff we're damn sure he's playing the best kid.
If John Donovan can't win this crew ...he should hang it up.
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Best summer ever. 100% participation. Guys have a chip on their shoulder this year. We're hungry. Everyone has bought in. Tightest knit team I've ever been apart of.
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Meh. This is just classic confirmation bias. It's telling because we want it to be telling. But these exact comments are made by players every single time there's a regime change. Sometimes they're telling, sometimes they're not. Time will tell.DugtheDoog said:Best summer ever. 100% participation. Guys have a chip on their shoulder this year. We're hungry. Everyone has bought in. Tightest knit team I've ever been apart of.
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Is everyone talking about the differences between Donovan at Jacksonville and Donovan on Montlake? The differences between Gregory on Montlake and Gregory in Montlake?
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dnc said:
Meh. This is just classic confirmation bias. It's telling because we want it to be telling. But these exact comments are made by players every single time there's a regime change. Sometimes they're telling, sometimes they're not. Time will tell.DugtheDoog said:Best summer ever. 100% participation. Guys have a chip on their shoulder this year. We're hungry. Everyone has bought in. Tightest knit team I've ever been apart of.
Either way it will be interesting.
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Any news on chocolate milk, 18 MPH treadmills, or boxing lessons?dnc said:DawgDaze71 said:
I don't mind people saying JD sucks until he doesn't because he does have something to prove. I think that's howthechatch said:I am very happy that UW hired Donovan.
Jimmy closed him. Jimmy probably told Donovan "I'm a Defensive guy I don't call plays. The show would be yours"
Donovan, after being scapegoated, wants to be back in the saddle as long as he's in that saddle alone. He was good
at Vandy and let's be real our team today has much more talent than his best Vandy team.
Another thing I've noticed along with Coker. A lot of players are hitting the weight room a bit harder than they have in
years past. Hmmmm could it be that players be signaling that they understand Jimmy's loyalty are different than Petersen's
loyalty and CP liking you = playing time is an bygone era now?
If Jimmy has to keep Boner and BogGreg on staff we're damn sure he's playing the best kid.
If John Donovan can't win this crew ...he should hang it up. -
They are bringing in a live Wolverine before the big game against Michigan. Michigan won’t scare us!!!CFetters_Nacho_Lover said:
Any news on chocolate milk, 18 MPH treadmills, or boxing lessons?dnc said:DawgDaze71 said:
I don't mind people saying JD sucks until he doesn't because he does have something to prove. I think that's howthechatch said:I am very happy that UW hired Donovan.
Jimmy closed him. Jimmy probably told Donovan "I'm a Defensive guy I don't call plays. The show would be yours"
Donovan, after being scapegoated, wants to be back in the saddle as long as he's in that saddle alone. He was good
at Vandy and let's be real our team today has much more talent than his best Vandy team.
Another thing I've noticed along with Coker. A lot of players are hitting the weight room a bit harder than they have in
years past. Hmmmm could it be that players be signaling that they understand Jimmy's loyalty are different than Petersen's
loyalty and CP liking you = playing time is an bygone era now?
If Jimmy has to keep Boner and BogGreg on staff we're damn sure he's playing the best kid.
If John Donovan can't win this crew ...he should hang it up. -
Listened to the podcast a few days ago... nothing we didn't know.
1. Sanctions may or may not have hurt his chance to develop a quality offense.
2. May or may not be a good recruiter because Franklin is well known in this arena.
3. Not sure if he can develop a quarterback cause Hackenberg sucked.
4. He may or may not have been the scape goat for internal issues with the program.
5. Was a rising star at Vandi and his named potentially derailed by a bad situation.
30 minute podcast essentially used to say that they really have no idea if Dovovan sucks or not. -
Guy just can’t catch a break....
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Tick tick tick tick tick.DawgDaze71 said:
Another thing I've noticed along with Coker. A lot of players are hitting the weight room a bit harder than they have inthechatch said:I am very happy that UW hired Donovan.
years past. Hmmmm could it be that players be signaling that they understand Jimmy's loyalty are different than Petersen's
loyalty and CP liking you = playing time is an bygone era now?
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Disagree.BroadcastingDawg said:Listened to the podcast a few days ago... nothing we didn't know.
1. Sanctions may or may not have hurt his chance to develop a quality offense.
2. May or may not be a good recruiter because Franklin is well known in this arena.
3. Not sure if he can develop a quarterback cause Hackenberg sucked.
4. He may or may not have been the scape goat for internal issues with the program.
5. Was a rising star at Vandi and his named potentially derailed by a bad situation.
30 minute podcast essentially used to say that they really have no idea if Dovovan sucks or not.
He sucks until he doesn't. Plenty of circumstantial evidence says he sucks. A handful of excuses for why it wasn't his fault for sucking.
Stay tuned... -
Hackenberg was the next big thing until Donovan ruined him.
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He was horrible at PSU, case closed. No other way to dissect it/spin it.
That being said, if BTP is bearish on Donovan I like his chances to outperform -
How much worse could we really get compared to last year? Ross, Pettis and Gaskin kind of masked what was really creaky offensive scheme.
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It can always get worse.DawgDaze71 said:How much worse could we really get compared to last year? Ross, Pettis and Gaskin kind of masked what was really creaky offensive scheme.
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Gladstone said:
It can always get worse.DawgDaze71 said:How much worse could we really get compared to last year? Ross, Pettis and Gaskin kind of masked what was really creaky offensive scheme.
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See Ronnie Fouch led Huskies.Gladstone said:
It can always get worse.DawgDaze71 said:How much worse could we really get compared to last year? Ross, Pettis and Gaskin kind of masked what was really creaky offensive scheme.
