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  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    A certain statue seems problematic
  • NorthwestFresh
    NorthwestFresh Member Posts: 7,972
    I didn’t know about the racial tension on those Owens’ teams. Black players boycotting the UCLA game? Grim
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,965

    I didn’t know about the racial tension on those Owens’ teams. Black players boycotting the UCLA game? Grim

    Owens’ black players aren’t a monolithic block with just one opinion of him. There was just a wee bit of racial tension in the whole country at the time. I’m sure he made mistakes and he definitely had staff in the program who needed to be shown the door.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,096 Founders Club
    HHusky said:

    I didn’t know about the racial tension on those Owens’ teams. Black players boycotting the UCLA game? Grim

    Owens’ black players aren’t a monolithic block with just one opinion of him. There was just a wee bit of racial tension in the whole country at the time. I’m sure he made mistakes and he definitely had staff in the program who needed to be shown the door.
    They were fairly monolithic in not going to the UCLA game

    I'm not surprised at all that you would run cover for racists
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,965

    HHusky said:

    I didn’t know about the racial tension on those Owens’ teams. Black players boycotting the UCLA game? Grim

    Owens’ black players aren’t a monolithic block with just one opinion of him. There was just a wee bit of racial tension in the whole country at the time. I’m sure he made mistakes and he definitely had staff in the program who needed to be shown the door.
    They were fairly monolithic in not going to the UCLA game

    I'm not surprised at all that you would run cover for racists
    There were black players trying to board the team bus who were blocked by the militants. But don’t let the facts distract you.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,096 Founders Club
    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    I didn’t know about the racial tension on those Owens’ teams. Black players boycotting the UCLA game? Grim

    Owens’ black players aren’t a monolithic block with just one opinion of him. There was just a wee bit of racial tension in the whole country at the time. I’m sure he made mistakes and he definitely had staff in the program who needed to be shown the door.
    They were fairly monolithic in not going to the UCLA game

    I'm not surprised at all that you would run cover for racists
    There were black players trying to board the team bus who were blocked by the militants. But don’t let the facts distract you.
    Props?
  • NorthwestFresh
    NorthwestFresh Member Posts: 7,972

    HHusky said:

    I didn’t know about the racial tension on those Owens’ teams. Black players boycotting the UCLA game? Grim

    Owens’ black players aren’t a monolithic block with just one opinion of him. There was just a wee bit of racial tension in the whole country at the time. I’m sure he made mistakes and he definitely had staff in the program who needed to be shown the door.
    They were fairly monolithic in not going to the UCLA game

    I'm not surprised at all that you would run cover for racists
    Yes but Owens was YOUR? racist. We all know that when he actually states his own opinion, Lionel is as hypocritical as needed to defend his team. The lack of awareness is what entertains me most.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,965

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    I didn’t know about the racial tension on those Owens’ teams. Black players boycotting the UCLA game? Grim

    Owens’ black players aren’t a monolithic block with just one opinion of him. There was just a wee bit of racial tension in the whole country at the time. I’m sure he made mistakes and he definitely had staff in the program who needed to be shown the door.
    They were fairly monolithic in not going to the UCLA game

    I'm not surprised at all that you would run cover for racists
    There were black players trying to board the team bus who were blocked by the militants. But don’t let the facts distract you.
    Props?
    Ask them.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,096 Founders Club
    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    I didn’t know about the racial tension on those Owens’ teams. Black players boycotting the UCLA game? Grim

    Owens’ black players aren’t a monolithic block with just one opinion of him. There was just a wee bit of racial tension in the whole country at the time. I’m sure he made mistakes and he definitely had staff in the program who needed to be shown the door.
    They were fairly monolithic in not going to the UCLA game

    I'm not surprised at all that you would run cover for racists
    There were black players trying to board the team bus who were blocked by the militants. But don’t let the facts distract you.
    Props?
    Ask them.
    You're the self proclaimed arbiter of race along with Biden
  • NorthwestFresh
    NorthwestFresh Member Posts: 7,972

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    I didn’t know about the racial tension on those Owens’ teams. Black players boycotting the UCLA game? Grim

    Owens’ black players aren’t a monolithic block with just one opinion of him. There was just a wee bit of racial tension in the whole country at the time. I’m sure he made mistakes and he definitely had staff in the program who needed to be shown the door.
    They were fairly monolithic in not going to the UCLA game

    I'm not surprised at all that you would run cover for racists
    There were black players trying to board the team bus who were blocked by the militants. But don’t let the facts distract you.
    Props?
    Ask them.
    You're the self proclaimed arbiter of race along with Biden
    Donnie Moore ain’t black.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,965

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    I didn’t know about the racial tension on those Owens’ teams. Black players boycotting the UCLA game? Grim

    Owens’ black players aren’t a monolithic block with just one opinion of him. There was just a wee bit of racial tension in the whole country at the time. I’m sure he made mistakes and he definitely had staff in the program who needed to be shown the door.
    They were fairly monolithic in not going to the UCLA game

    I'm not surprised at all that you would run cover for racists
    There were black players trying to board the team bus who were blocked by the militants. But don’t let the facts distract you.
    Props?
    Ask them.
    You're the self proclaimed arbiter of race
    Link?
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,965

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    I didn’t know about the racial tension on those Owens’ teams. Black players boycotting the UCLA game? Grim

    Owens’ black players aren’t a monolithic block with just one opinion of him. There was just a wee bit of racial tension in the whole country at the time. I’m sure he made mistakes and he definitely had staff in the program who needed to be shown the door.
    They were fairly monolithic in not going to the UCLA game

    I'm not surprised at all that you would run cover for racists
    There were black players trying to board the team bus who were blocked by the militants. But don’t let the facts distract you.
    Props?
    Ask them.
    You're the self proclaimed arbiter of race along with Biden
    Donnie Moore ain’t black.
    He’ll be surprised to learn that.
  • NorthwestFresh
    NorthwestFresh Member Posts: 7,972
    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    I didn’t know about the racial tension on those Owens’ teams. Black players boycotting the UCLA game? Grim

    Owens’ black players aren’t a monolithic block with just one opinion of him. There was just a wee bit of racial tension in the whole country at the time. I’m sure he made mistakes and he definitely had staff in the program who needed to be shown the door.
    They were fairly monolithic in not going to the UCLA game

    I'm not surprised at all that you would run cover for racists
    There were black players trying to board the team bus who were blocked by the militants. But don’t let the facts distract you.
    Props?
    Ask them.
    You're the self proclaimed arbiter of race along with Biden
    Donnie Moore ain’t black.
    He’ll be surprised to learn that.
    Unless he votes for Biden. It’s so fun getting you all worked up. Not quite as bad as you do when it’s pointed out that Margaret Sanger wanted to diminish the black population via various methods of birth control. What a racist bitch she was, eh?
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,965

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    I didn’t know about the racial tension on those Owens’ teams. Black players boycotting the UCLA game? Grim

    Owens’ black players aren’t a monolithic block with just one opinion of him. There was just a wee bit of racial tension in the whole country at the time. I’m sure he made mistakes and he definitely had staff in the program who needed to be shown the door.
    They were fairly monolithic in not going to the UCLA game

    I'm not surprised at all that you would run cover for racists
    There were black players trying to board the team bus who were blocked by the militants. But don’t let the facts distract you.
    Props?
    Ask them.
    You're the self proclaimed arbiter of race along with Biden
    Donnie Moore ain’t black.
    He’ll be surprised to learn that.
    Unless he votes for Biden. It’s so fun getting you all worked up. Not quite as bad as you do when it’s pointed out that Margaret Sanger wanted to diminish the black population via various methods of birth control. What a racist bitch she was, eh?
    Awfully wordy.


    But I'm worked up, obviously.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,965
    ""Those (protesters) are well off base. Jim Owens was extremely good to me." --Dave Dinesh

    "(We) should have a Jim Owens Day. I love the guy. I thought he was just as fair as could be."--Ron Preston


    Lee Brock, defensive tackle and co-captain of the 1969 team, criticized those who leveled charges at Owens, saying they were more interested in self-promotion than in helping the black community.

    Owens might have been rigid, he said, but he was not a racist.

    "If he really was, ... he would not have started (Native American quarterback) Sonny Sixkiller," Brock said. "He stayed with Sonny through all of that."

    He criticized those who blocked the team bus 34 years ago, saying protesters showed disrespect by failing to consult him, a team leader.


    https://www.seattlepi.com/sports/article/A-controversial-statue-creates-dissent-healing-1127965.php

  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,096 Founders Club
    HHusky said:

    ""Those (protesters) are well off base. Jim Owens was extremely good to me." --Dave Dinesh

    "(We) should have a Jim Owens Day. I love the guy. I thought he was just as fair as could be."--Ron Preston


    Lee Brock, defensive tackle and co-captain of the 1969 team, criticized those who leveled charges at Owens, saying they were more interested in self-promotion than in helping the black community.

    Owens might have been rigid, he said, but he was not a racist.

    "If he really was, ... he would not have started (Native American quarterback) Sonny Sixkiller," Brock said. "He stayed with Sonny through all of that."

    He criticized those who blocked the team bus 34 years ago, saying protesters showed disrespect by failing to consult him, a team leader.


    https://www.seattlepi.com/sports/article/A-controversial-statue-creates-dissent-healing-1127965.php

    Props

    Saying the same thing today about BLM
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,096 Founders Club
    And he wouldn't have started Sonny if two guys didn't get hurt. Six was the people's choice
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,066
    edited June 2020
    Black eye for my CUOGS! Huskies get shellacked by UCLA (what's new?), go 1-9 and, guess who saved the Huskies from Owen?

    Come on!
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,965

    HHusky said:

    ""Those (protesters) are well off base. Jim Owens was extremely good to me." --Dave Dinesh

    "(We) should have a Jim Owens Day. I love the guy. I thought he was just as fair as could be."--Ron Preston


    Lee Brock, defensive tackle and co-captain of the 1969 team, criticized those who leveled charges at Owens, saying they were more interested in self-promotion than in helping the black community.

    Owens might have been rigid, he said, but he was not a racist.

    "If he really was, ... he would not have started (Native American quarterback) Sonny Sixkiller," Brock said. "He stayed with Sonny through all of that."

    He criticized those who blocked the team bus 34 years ago, saying protesters showed disrespect by failing to consult him, a team leader.


    https://www.seattlepi.com/sports/article/A-controversial-statue-creates-dissent-healing-1127965.php

    Props

    Saying the same thing today about BLM
    Props? So Mark Meadows really gave those quotes to the PI?
  • NorthwestFresh
    NorthwestFresh Member Posts: 7,972

    HHusky said:

    ""Those (protesters) are well off base. Jim Owens was extremely good to me." --Dave Dinesh

    "(We) should have a Jim Owens Day. I love the guy. I thought he was just as fair as could be."--Ron Preston


    Lee Brock, defensive tackle and co-captain of the 1969 team, criticized those who leveled charges at Owens, saying they were more interested in self-promotion than in helping the black community.

    Owens might have been rigid, he said, but he was not a racist.

    "If he really was, ... he would not have started (Native American quarterback) Sonny Sixkiller," Brock said. "He stayed with Sonny through all of that."

    He criticized those who blocked the team bus 34 years ago, saying protesters showed disrespect by failing to consult him, a team leader.


    https://www.seattlepi.com/sports/article/A-controversial-statue-creates-dissent-healing-1127965.php

    Props

    Saying the same thing today about BLM
    Jim Owens couldn’t carry Jerry Frei’s leather helmet when it comes to 1960s social justice. @HHusky posting the words of Owen’s own Uncle Tom notwithstanding...
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,965
    edited June 2020

    Black eye for my CUOGS! Huskies get shellacked by UCLA (what's new?), go 1-9 and, guess who saved the Huskies from Owen?

    Come on!

    Kind of fun when Owens onside kicked up 54-20 against UCLA the following year. Final: 61-20.

    Prothro and Owens hated each other.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,965

    HHusky said:

    ""Those (protesters) are well off base. Jim Owens was extremely good to me." --Dave Dinesh

    "(We) should have a Jim Owens Day. I love the guy. I thought he was just as fair as could be."--Ron Preston


    Lee Brock, defensive tackle and co-captain of the 1969 team, criticized those who leveled charges at Owens, saying they were more interested in self-promotion than in helping the black community.

    Owens might have been rigid, he said, but he was not a racist.

    "If he really was, ... he would not have started (Native American quarterback) Sonny Sixkiller," Brock said. "He stayed with Sonny through all of that."

    He criticized those who blocked the team bus 34 years ago, saying protesters showed disrespect by failing to consult him, a team leader.


    https://www.seattlepi.com/sports/article/A-controversial-statue-creates-dissent-healing-1127965.php

    Props

    Saying the same thing today about BLM
    Jim Owens couldn’t carry Jerry Frei’s leather helmet when it comes to 1960s social justice. @HHusky posting the words of Owen’s own Uncle Tom notwithstanding...
    When you gals putting up Jerry's statue?
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,096 Founders Club
    Owens should have been fired on the spot for Donnie Moore.

    That's what my dad the REAL tuff liberal lawyer said at the time

    He didn't have much use for racists like H
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,066

    Owens should have been fired on the spot for Donnie Moore.

    That's what my dad the REAL tuff liberal lawyer said at the time

    He didn't have much use for racists like H

    Also, he clicked off 220 on Ohio State at the Shoe? Fuck outta here. Forget the race piece for a minute. You don't boot a guy who gives you 2 hundy on the road at Buck unless you catch him with the dog, and even then ....
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,965

    Owens should have been fired on the spot for Donnie Moore.

    That's what my dad the REAL tuff liberal lawyer said at the time

    He didn't have much use for racists like H

    There were very fine people on both sides of the controversy.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,096 Founders Club
    HHusky said:

    Owens should have been fired on the spot for Donnie Moore.

    That's what my dad the REAL tuff liberal lawyer said at the time

    He didn't have much use for racists like H

    There were very fine people on both sides of the controversy.
    I missed you in the Biden thread
  • NorthwestFresh
    NorthwestFresh Member Posts: 7,972
    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    I didn’t know about the racial tension on those Owens’ teams. Black players boycotting the UCLA game? Grim

    Owens’ black players aren’t a monolithic block with just one opinion of him. There was just a wee bit of racial tension in the whole country at the time. I’m sure he made mistakes and he definitely had staff in the program who needed to be shown the door.
    They were fairly monolithic in not going to the UCLA game

    I'm not surprised at all that you would run cover for racists
    There were black players trying to board the team bus who were blocked by the militants. But don’t let the facts distract you.
    Props?
    Ask them.
    You're the self proclaimed arbiter of race along with Biden
    Donnie Moore ain’t black.
    He’ll be surprised to learn that.
    Unless he votes for Biden. It’s so fun getting you all worked up. Not quite as bad as you do when it’s pointed out that Margaret Sanger wanted to diminish the black population via various methods of birth control. What a racist bitch she was, eh?
    Awfully wordy.


    But I'm worked up, obviously.
    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    ""Those (protesters) are well off base. Jim Owens was extremely good to me." --Dave Dinesh

    "(We) should have a Jim Owens Day. I love the guy. I thought he was just as fair as could be."--Ron Preston


    Lee Brock, defensive tackle and co-captain of the 1969 team, criticized those who leveled charges at Owens, saying they were more interested in self-promotion than in helping the black community.

    Owens might have been rigid, he said, but he was not a racist.

    "If he really was, ... he would not have started (Native American quarterback) Sonny Sixkiller," Brock said. "He stayed with Sonny through all of that."

    He criticized those who blocked the team bus 34 years ago, saying protesters showed disrespect by failing to consult him, a team leader.


    https://www.seattlepi.com/sports/article/A-controversial-statue-creates-dissent-healing-1127965.php

    Props

    Saying the same thing today about BLM
    Jim Owens couldn’t carry Jerry Frei’s leather helmet when it comes to 1960s social justice. @HHusky posting the words of Owen’s own Uncle Tom notwithstanding...
    When you gals putting up Jerry's statue?
    He’s white so it won’t happen. Not a racist like Owens though so at least it would make sense.