good tweet, imo

HoustonHusky said:

WilburHooksHands said:

HoustonHusky said:

WilburHooksHands said:

HoustonHusky said:

WilburHooksHands said:

GrundleStiltzkin said:

LoneStarDawg said:

It’s like being a war for 19 years and bringing marines back to be cops has negative consequences

I think there's definitely something to that. I don't to what magnitude.

Its also just hard to screen out all the people with violent intentions that want to be cops to play them out with no consequences. What makes me mad and I think a lot of people mad is that when these things occur the police either circle the wagons or pay it bs lip service. The internal pressure on police reform is just not there and it is absolutely essential.

Only chance you have in reforming is when things are generally good and you have blatant instances of abuse like with George Floyd which causes everyone to unite and say things need to change. Follow that up though with burning a few cities and people are like 'that was bad, but we aren't giving cops less power right now with all of this shite going on'. Basically grinds everything back to the status quo, which is what both the police and the leftists groups want.

Best thing BLM could do is distance itself and attack ANTIFA for co-opting and corrupting the response to George Floyd...I think a lot of folks on the ground in the group would actually agree. Don't think the leadership would though...esp since they started taking all that Soros $$$.

There is a lot of this I agree with, although I think you should draw the line between the leadership of the leftist groups and the folks on the ground as you did with BLM. Maybe that was your point though.

Not really. I think the average BLM protestors generally want things to improve. I think the ANTIFA protestors are generally anarchists and communists who want to overthrow everything current America stands for. Go look at the ANTIFA guys that beat up that guy on the streets of Portland yesterday...they were literally wearing Satanic shirts. No joke. That's not their leadership...that's the ground crew. They aren't looking out for George Floyd...they are there to cause mayhem in whatever form they can and this was just the excuse/cover for their real goal.

I dont consider ANTIFA a legitimate leftist group personally, they are just anarchists as you said. It depends how you want to define leftist, if we are using marxism and fascism as the poles then I guess that’s fair. As you said, I believe the average BLM protester has their intentions in the right place, and in that sense we shouldn’t consider basic human rights as either right or left.

This guy was a Dem Representative and the Deputy Director of the DNC. Not sure how you don’t consider ANTIFA an organized Leftist group.

WilburHooksHands said:

SFGbob said:

HoustonHusky said:

WilburHooksHands said:

HoustonHusky said:

WilburHooksHands said:

HoustonHusky said:

WilburHooksHands said:

GrundleStiltzkin said:

LoneStarDawg said:

It’s like being a war for 19 years and bringing marines back to be cops has negative consequences

I think there's definitely something to that. I don't to what magnitude.

Its also just hard to screen out all the people with violent intentions that want to be cops to play them out with no consequences. What makes me mad and I think a lot of people mad is that when these things occur the police either circle the wagons or pay it bs lip service. The internal pressure on police reform is just not there and it is absolutely essential.

Only chance you have in reforming is when things are generally good and you have blatant instances of abuse like with George Floyd which causes everyone to unite and say things need to change. Follow that up though with burning a few cities and people are like 'that was bad, but we aren't giving cops less power right now with all of this shite going on'. Basically grinds everything back to the status quo, which is what both the police and the leftists groups want.

Best thing BLM could do is distance itself and attack ANTIFA for co-opting and corrupting the response to George Floyd...I think a lot of folks on the ground in the group would actually agree. Don't think the leadership would though...esp since they started taking all that Soros $$$.

There is a lot of this I agree with, although I think you should draw the line between the leadership of the leftist groups and the folks on the ground as you did with BLM. Maybe that was your point though.

Not really. I think the average BLM protestors generally want things to improve. I think the ANTIFA protestors are generally anarchists and communists who want to overthrow everything current America stands for. Go look at the ANTIFA guys that beat up that guy on the streets of Portland yesterday...they were literally wearing Satanic shirts. No joke. That's not their leadership...that's the ground crew. They aren't looking out for George Floyd...they are there to cause mayhem in whatever form they can and this was just the excuse/cover for their real goal.

I dont consider ANTIFA a legitimate leftist group personally, they are just anarchists as you said. It depends how you want to define leftist, if we are using marxism and fascism as the poles then I guess that’s fair. As you said, I believe the average BLM protester has their intentions in the right place, and in that sense we shouldn’t consider basic human rights as either right or left.

This guy was a Dem Representative and the Deputy Director of the DNC. Not sure how you don’t consider ANTIFA an organized Leftist group.

Antifa is also defended and protected by leftist mayors and politicians all over the country, as well as the MSM.

Hell I've seen members of he Corona Bros minimize their threat and defend them right here on the board.

By refusing to deal with the escalating violence and destruction coming from Antifa there are plenty of people on the left who are accessories to their violence.

If they continue to tow that line after this then yes they are.

SFGbob said:

WilburHooksHands said:

SFGbob said:

HoustonHusky said:

WilburHooksHands said:

HoustonHusky said:

WilburHooksHands said:

HoustonHusky said:

WilburHooksHands said:

GrundleStiltzkin said:

LoneStarDawg said:

It’s like being a war for 19 years and bringing marines back to be cops has negative consequences

I think there's definitely something to that. I don't to what magnitude.

Its also just hard to screen out all the people with violent intentions that want to be cops to play them out with no consequences. What makes me mad and I think a lot of people mad is that when these things occur the police either circle the wagons or pay it bs lip service. The internal pressure on police reform is just not there and it is absolutely essential.

Only chance you have in reforming is when things are generally good and you have blatant instances of abuse like with George Floyd which causes everyone to unite and say things need to change. Follow that up though with burning a few cities and people are like 'that was bad, but we aren't giving cops less power right now with all of this shite going on'. Basically grinds everything back to the status quo, which is what both the police and the leftists groups want.

Best thing BLM could do is distance itself and attack ANTIFA for co-opting and corrupting the response to George Floyd...I think a lot of folks on the ground in the group would actually agree. Don't think the leadership would though...esp since they started taking all that Soros $$$.

There is a lot of this I agree with, although I think you should draw the line between the leadership of the leftist groups and the folks on the ground as you did with BLM. Maybe that was your point though.

Not really. I think the average BLM protestors generally want things to improve. I think the ANTIFA protestors are generally anarchists and communists who want to overthrow everything current America stands for. Go look at the ANTIFA guys that beat up that guy on the streets of Portland yesterday...they were literally wearing Satanic shirts. No joke. That's not their leadership...that's the ground crew. They aren't looking out for George Floyd...they are there to cause mayhem in whatever form they can and this was just the excuse/cover for their real goal.

I dont consider ANTIFA a legitimate leftist group personally, they are just anarchists as you said. It depends how you want to define leftist, if we are using marxism and fascism as the poles then I guess that’s fair. As you said, I believe the average BLM protester has their intentions in the right place, and in that sense we shouldn’t consider basic human rights as either right or left.

This guy was a Dem Representative and the Deputy Director of the DNC. Not sure how you don’t consider ANTIFA an organized Leftist group.

Antifa is also defended and protected by leftist mayors and politicians all over the country, as well as the MSM.

Hell I've seen members of he Corona Bros minimize their threat and defend them right here on the board.

By refusing to deal with the escalating violence and destruction coming from Antifa there are plenty of people on the left who are accessories to their violence.

If they continue to tow that line after this then yes they are.

Gov of Minnesota just called for Ellison to be the lead on case.

Swaye said:

WestlinnDuck said:

First, too many things are illegal. Second is the reinvention of catch and release. The more times someone is arrested and released with little to no consequences means that person will have multiple interactions with the cops. Each interaction introduces another chance for a bad result. Third, being a cop in a major blue city has to be one of the worst jobs in the US, but it does pay well. This isn't going to attract the best and the brightest. It will attract individuals with a god complex who get off on the power of the badge and the gun. Next, way too many cops are union members first and cops second. The culture is to protect the job no matter what. Finally, the political and social leadership is rotten. Tolerance of Antifa is an example. If the KKK was fomenting the violence, they would be in jail. For Antifa is pretty much a catch and release. There is no serious penalty for mobbing up and breaking sh*t that doesn't belong to you. On the other hand, if a store owner shot one in the head for throwing a brick through his store window, that's will get you a long prison sentence. The left has no tolerance for using violence to stop the riot, in fact they have a huge tolerance for the violence. We can just watch as capital will flee blue cities as the mayors will not protect private property. These mayors will then be bewildered as these areas deteriorate.

POTD

Every bit of this is fact, yet it eludes our liberal friends on a daily basis.

HustlinOwl said:

Sledog said:

HoustonHusky said:

WilburHooksHands said:

HoustonHusky said:

WilburHooksHands said:

GrundleStiltzkin said:

LoneStarDawg said:

It’s like being a war for 19 years and bringing marines back to be cops has negative consequences

I think there's definitely something to that. I don't to what magnitude.

Its also just hard to screen out all the people with violent intentions that want to be cops to play them out with no consequences. What makes me mad and I think a lot of people mad is that when these things occur the police either circle the wagons or pay it bs lip service. The internal pressure on police reform is just not there and it is absolutely essential.

Only chance you have in reforming is when things are generally good and you have blatant instances of abuse like with George Floyd which causes everyone to unite and say things need to change. Follow that up though with burning a few cities and people are like 'that was bad, but we aren't giving cops less power right now with all of this shite going on'. Basically grinds everything back to the status quo, which is what both the police and the leftists groups want.

Best thing BLM could do is distance itself and attack ANTIFA for co-opting and corrupting the response to George Floyd...I think a lot of folks on the ground in the group would actually agree. Don't think the leadership would though...esp since they started taking all that Soros $$$.

There is a lot of this I agree with, although I think you should draw the line between the leadership of the leftist groups and the folks on the ground as you did with BLM. Maybe that was your point though.

Not really. I think the average BLM protestors generally want things to improve. I think the ANTIFA protestors are generally anarchists and communists who want to overthrow everything current America stands for. Go look at the ANTIFA guys that beat up that guy on the streets of Portland yesterday...they were literally wearing Satanic shirts. No joke. That's not their leadership...that's the ground crew. They aren't looking out for George Floyd...they are there to cause mayhem in whatever form they can and this was just the excuse/cover for their real goal.

Soros funds both and his only goal is socialism he can control.

Soros is 90 years old and can barely control his bowel movements let alone control the world.