good tweet, imo

HoustonHusky said:

WilburHooksHands said:

HoustonHusky said:

WilburHooksHands said:

HoustonHusky said:

WilburHooksHands said:

GrundleStiltzkin said:

LoneStarDawg said:

It’s like being a war for 19 years and bringing marines back to be cops has negative consequences

I think there's definitely something to that. I don't to what magnitude.

Its also just hard to screen out all the people with violent intentions that want to be cops to play them out with no consequences. What makes me mad and I think a lot of people mad is that when these things occur the police either circle the wagons or pay it bs lip service. The internal pressure on police reform is just not there and it is absolutely essential.

Only chance you have in reforming is when things are generally good and you have blatant instances of abuse like with George Floyd which causes everyone to unite and say things need to change. Follow that up though with burning a few cities and people are like 'that was bad, but we aren't giving cops less power right now with all of this shite going on'. Basically grinds everything back to the status quo, which is what both the police and the leftists groups want.

Best thing BLM could do is distance itself and attack ANTIFA for co-opting and corrupting the response to George Floyd...I think a lot of folks on the ground in the group would actually agree. Don't think the leadership would though...esp since they started taking all that Soros $$$.

There is a lot of this I agree with, although I think you should draw the line between the leadership of the leftist groups and the folks on the ground as you did with BLM. Maybe that was your point though.

Not really. I think the average BLM protestors generally want things to improve. I think the ANTIFA protestors are generally anarchists and communists who want to overthrow everything current America stands for. Go look at the ANTIFA guys that beat up that guy on the streets of Portland yesterday...they were literally wearing Satanic shirts. No joke. That's not their leadership...that's the ground crew. They aren't looking out for George Floyd...they are there to cause mayhem in whatever form they can and this was just the excuse/cover for their real goal.

I dont consider ANTIFA a legitimate leftist group personally, they are just anarchists as you said. It depends how you want to define leftist, if we are using marxism and fascism as the poles then I guess that’s fair. As you said, I believe the average BLM protester has their intentions in the right place, and in that sense we shouldn’t consider basic human rights as either right or left.

This guy was a Dem Representative and the Deputy Director of the DNC. Not sure how you don’t consider ANTIFA an organized Leftist group.

WilburHooksHands said:

SFGbob said:

HoustonHusky said:

WilburHooksHands said:

HoustonHusky said:

WilburHooksHands said:

HoustonHusky said:

WilburHooksHands said:

GrundleStiltzkin said:

LoneStarDawg said:

It’s like being a war for 19 years and bringing marines back to be cops has negative consequences

I think there's definitely something to that. I don't to what magnitude.

Its also just hard to screen out all the people with violent intentions that want to be cops to play them out with no consequences. What makes me mad and I think a lot of people mad is that when these things occur the police either circle the wagons or pay it bs lip service. The internal pressure on police reform is just not there and it is absolutely essential.

Only chance you have in reforming is when things are generally good and you have blatant instances of abuse like with George Floyd which causes everyone to unite and say things need to change. Follow that up though with burning a few cities and people are like 'that was bad, but we aren't giving cops less power right now with all of this shite going on'. Basically grinds everything back to the status quo, which is what both the police and the leftists groups want.

Best thing BLM could do is distance itself and attack ANTIFA for co-opting and corrupting the response to George Floyd...I think a lot of folks on the ground in the group would actually agree. Don't think the leadership would though...esp since they started taking all that Soros $$$.

There is a lot of this I agree with, although I think you should draw the line between the leadership of the leftist groups and the folks on the ground as you did with BLM. Maybe that was your point though.

Not really. I think the average BLM protestors generally want things to improve. I think the ANTIFA protestors are generally anarchists and communists who want to overthrow everything current America stands for. Go look at the ANTIFA guys that beat up that guy on the streets of Portland yesterday...they were literally wearing Satanic shirts. No joke. That's not their leadership...that's the ground crew. They aren't looking out for George Floyd...they are there to cause mayhem in whatever form they can and this was just the excuse/cover for their real goal.

I dont consider ANTIFA a legitimate leftist group personally, they are just anarchists as you said. It depends how you want to define leftist, if we are using marxism and fascism as the poles then I guess that’s fair. As you said, I believe the average BLM protester has their intentions in the right place, and in that sense we shouldn’t consider basic human rights as either right or left.

This guy was a Dem Representative and the Deputy Director of the DNC. Not sure how you don’t consider ANTIFA an organized Leftist group.

Antifa is also defended and protected by leftist mayors and politicians all over the country, as well as the MSM.

Hell I've seen members of he Corona Bros minimize their threat and defend them right here on the board.

By refusing to deal with the escalating violence and destruction coming from Antifa there are plenty of people on the left who are accessories to their violence.

If they continue to tow that line after this then yes they are.

SFGbob said:

WilburHooksHands said:

SFGbob said:

HoustonHusky said:

WilburHooksHands said:

HoustonHusky said:

WilburHooksHands said:

HoustonHusky said:

WilburHooksHands said:

GrundleStiltzkin said:

LoneStarDawg said:

It’s like being a war for 19 years and bringing marines back to be cops has negative consequences

I think there's definitely something to that. I don't to what magnitude.

Its also just hard to screen out all the people with violent intentions that want to be cops to play them out with no consequences. What makes me mad and I think a lot of people mad is that when these things occur the police either circle the wagons or pay it bs lip service. The internal pressure on police reform is just not there and it is absolutely essential.

Only chance you have in reforming is when things are generally good and you have blatant instances of abuse like with George Floyd which causes everyone to unite and say things need to change. Follow that up though with burning a few cities and people are like 'that was bad, but we aren't giving cops less power right now with all of this shite going on'. Basically grinds everything back to the status quo, which is what both the police and the leftists groups want.

Best thing BLM could do is distance itself and attack ANTIFA for co-opting and corrupting the response to George Floyd...I think a lot of folks on the ground in the group would actually agree. Don't think the leadership would though...esp since they started taking all that Soros $$$.

There is a lot of this I agree with, although I think you should draw the line between the leadership of the leftist groups and the folks on the ground as you did with BLM. Maybe that was your point though.

Not really. I think the average BLM protestors generally want things to improve. I think the ANTIFA protestors are generally anarchists and communists who want to overthrow everything current America stands for. Go look at the ANTIFA guys that beat up that guy on the streets of Portland yesterday...they were literally wearing Satanic shirts. No joke. That's not their leadership...that's the ground crew. They aren't looking out for George Floyd...they are there to cause mayhem in whatever form they can and this was just the excuse/cover for their real goal.

I dont consider ANTIFA a legitimate leftist group personally, they are just anarchists as you said. It depends how you want to define leftist, if we are using marxism and fascism as the poles then I guess that’s fair. As you said, I believe the average BLM protester has their intentions in the right place, and in that sense we shouldn’t consider basic human rights as either right or left.

This guy was a Dem Representative and the Deputy Director of the DNC. Not sure how you don’t consider ANTIFA an organized Leftist group.

Antifa is also defended and protected by leftist mayors and politicians all over the country, as well as the MSM.

Hell I've seen members of he Corona Bros minimize their threat and defend them right here on the board.

By refusing to deal with the escalating violence and destruction coming from Antifa there are plenty of people on the left who are accessories to their violence.

If they continue to tow that line after this then yes they are.

Gov of Minnesota just called for Ellison to be the lead on case.