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    doogiedoogie Member Posts: 15,072
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    SledogSledog Member Posts: 31,327
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    It’s like being a war for 19 years and bringing marines back to be cops has negative consequences

    I think there's definitely something to that. I don't to what magnitude.
    Its also just hard to screen out all the people with violent intentions that want to be cops to play them out with no consequences. What makes me mad and I think a lot of people mad is that when these things occur the police either circle the wagons or pay it bs lip service. The internal pressure on police reform is just not there and it is absolutely essential.
    Plenty of pressure just no evidence. Now that we see body cams etc. exonerating police at a stunning rate the left want's them gone. Now they are a violation of privacy. Kills your narrative.
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 102,155
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    Sledog said:

    It’s like being a war for 19 years and bringing marines back to be cops has negative consequences

    I think there's definitely something to that. I don't to what magnitude.
    Its also just hard to screen out all the people with violent intentions that want to be cops to play them out with no consequences. What makes me mad and I think a lot of people mad is that when these things occur the police either circle the wagons or pay it bs lip service. The internal pressure on police reform is just not there and it is absolutely essential.
    Plenty of pressure just no evidence. Now that we see body cams etc. exonerating police at a stunning rate the left want's them gone. Now they are a violation of privacy. Kills your narrative.
    I hadn't heard that cameras are bad now.
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    WilburHooksHandsWilburHooksHands Member Posts: 6,742
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    Sledog said:

    It’s like being a war for 19 years and bringing marines back to be cops has negative consequences

    I think there's definitely something to that. I don't to what magnitude.
    Its also just hard to screen out all the people with violent intentions that want to be cops to play them out with no consequences. What makes me mad and I think a lot of people mad is that when these things occur the police either circle the wagons or pay it bs lip service. The internal pressure on police reform is just not there and it is absolutely essential.
    Plenty of pressure just no evidence.

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    SledogSledog Member Posts: 31,327
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    Sledog said:

    It’s like being a war for 19 years and bringing marines back to be cops has negative consequences

    I think there's definitely something to that. I don't to what magnitude.
    Its also just hard to screen out all the people with violent intentions that want to be cops to play them out with no consequences. What makes me mad and I think a lot of people mad is that when these things occur the police either circle the wagons or pay it bs lip service. The internal pressure on police reform is just not there and it is absolutely essential.
    Plenty of pressure just no evidence. Now that we see body cams etc. exonerating police at a stunning rate the left want's them gone. Now they are a violation of privacy. Kills your narrative.
    I hadn't heard that cameras are bad now.
    It's the new thing. Not working out how the left thought. Not big yet we'll have to wait and see.
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    doogiedoogie Member Posts: 15,072
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    Doesn’t matter. Cameras will Never go away now.

    Drone policing is Tanned Rested and Ready
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    NorthwestFreshNorthwestFresh Member Posts: 7,972
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    Sledog said:

    It’s like being a war for 19 years and bringing marines back to be cops has negative consequences

    I think there's definitely something to that. I don't to what magnitude.
    Its also just hard to screen out all the people with violent intentions that want to be cops to play them out with no consequences. What makes me mad and I think a lot of people mad is that when these things occur the police either circle the wagons or pay it bs lip service. The internal pressure on police reform is just not there and it is absolutely essential.
    Plenty of pressure just no evidence. Now that we see body cams etc. exonerating police at a stunning rate the left want's them gone. Now they are a violation of privacy. Kills your narrative.
    I hadn't heard that cameras are bad now.
    Much more difficult to make martyrs like Mike Brown when ball don’t lie video exists.
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    WilburHooksHandsWilburHooksHands Member Posts: 6,742
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    It’s like being a war for 19 years and bringing marines back to be cops has negative consequences

    I think there's definitely something to that. I don't to what magnitude.
    Its also just hard to screen out all the people with violent intentions that want to be cops to play them out with no consequences. What makes me mad and I think a lot of people mad is that when these things occur the police either circle the wagons or pay it bs lip service. The internal pressure on police reform is just not there and it is absolutely essential.
    Only chance you have in reforming is when things are generally good and you have blatant instances of abuse like with George Floyd which causes everyone to unite and say things need to change. Follow that up though with burning a few cities and people are like 'that was bad, but we aren't giving cops less power right now with all of this shite going on'. Basically grinds everything back to the status quo, which is what both the police and the leftists groups want.

    Best thing BLM could do is distance itself and attack ANTIFA for co-opting and corrupting the response to George Floyd...I think a lot of folks on the ground in the group would actually agree. Don't think the leadership would though...esp since they started taking all that Soros $$$.
    There is a lot of this I agree with, although I think you should draw the line between the leadership of the leftist groups and the folks on the ground as you did with BLM. Maybe that was your point though.
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    SledogSledog Member Posts: 31,327
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    Sledog said:

    It’s like being a war for 19 years and bringing marines back to be cops has negative consequences

    I think there's definitely something to that. I don't to what magnitude.
    Its also just hard to screen out all the people with violent intentions that want to be cops to play them out with no consequences. What makes me mad and I think a lot of people mad is that when these things occur the police either circle the wagons or pay it bs lip service. The internal pressure on police reform is just not there and it is absolutely essential.
    Plenty of pressure just no evidence. Now that we see body cams etc. exonerating police at a stunning rate the left want's them gone. Now they are a violation of privacy. Kills your narrative.
    I hadn't heard that cameras are bad now.
    Much more difficult to make martyrs like Mike Brown when ball don’t lie video exists.
    Not true. The video of Brown committing a strong arm robbery of the liquor store which was the catalyst for the contact was completely ignored and dismissed by the left. The left only likes proof if it's on their side. Otherwise it's all fake and photoshopped.
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    SledogSledog Member Posts: 31,327
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    doogie said:

    Doesn’t matter. Cameras will Never go away now.

    Drone policing is Tanned Rested and Ready

    I agree I don't want them to go away. They have proven complaints as false damn near 100% of the time in my experience.
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    WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 14,174
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    You are mistaken in thinking that BLM and Antifa have different goals. Both are Marxist organizations that want to abolish existing police forces and capitalism. Neither really give a sh*t about black lives. Or white lives.
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    Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 26,648
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    The only answer to stopping generational crime and poverty is mandatory abortion and birth control by income level.

    You cant afford kids too bad.
    I doubt parents would be letting kids roam around in gangs fucking shit up if they actually cared about them because they actually wanted them.

    In the 18 years between....mandate either college, trade school, or military service.
    You failing high school or not showing up? Military style boarding schools.


    Case closed.
    Problem solved.


    You're all welcome.
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    HoustonHuskyHoustonHusky Member Posts: 5,956
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    It’s like being a war for 19 years and bringing marines back to be cops has negative consequences

    I think there's definitely something to that. I don't to what magnitude.
    Its also just hard to screen out all the people with violent intentions that want to be cops to play them out with no consequences. What makes me mad and I think a lot of people mad is that when these things occur the police either circle the wagons or pay it bs lip service. The internal pressure on police reform is just not there and it is absolutely essential.
    Only chance you have in reforming is when things are generally good and you have blatant instances of abuse like with George Floyd which causes everyone to unite and say things need to change. Follow that up though with burning a few cities and people are like 'that was bad, but we aren't giving cops less power right now with all of this shite going on'. Basically grinds everything back to the status quo, which is what both the police and the leftists groups want.

    Best thing BLM could do is distance itself and attack ANTIFA for co-opting and corrupting the response to George Floyd...I think a lot of folks on the ground in the group would actually agree. Don't think the leadership would though...esp since they started taking all that Soros $$$.
    There is a lot of this I agree with, although I think you should draw the line between the leadership of the leftist groups and the folks on the ground as you did with BLM. Maybe that was your point though.
    Not really. I think the average BLM protestors generally want things to improve. I think the ANTIFA protestors are generally anarchists and communists who want to overthrow everything current America stands for. Go look at the ANTIFA guys that beat up that guy on the streets of Portland yesterday...they were literally wearing Satanic shirts. No joke. That's not their leadership...that's the ground crew. They aren't looking out for George Floyd...they are there to cause mayhem in whatever form they can and this was just the excuse/cover for their real goal.
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