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The sad thing is we? had over 81% agreement on this one due to the egregious nature of the video. You had a GOP president getting the DOJ involved immediately
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It’s like being a war for 19 years and bringing marines back to be cops has negative consequences
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I think there's definitely something to that. I don't to what magnitude.LoneStarDawg said:It’s like being a war for 19 years and bringing marines back to be cops has negative consequences
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Its also just hard to screen out all the people with violent intentions that want to be cops to play them out with no consequences. What makes me mad and I think a lot of people mad is that when these things occur the police either circle the wagons or pay it bs lip service. The internal pressure on police reform is just not there and it is absolutely essential.GrundleStiltzkin said:
I think there's definitely something to that. I don't to what magnitude.LoneStarDawg said:It’s like being a war for 19 years and bringing marines back to be cops has negative consequences
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Plenty of pressure just no evidence. Now that we see body cams etc. exonerating police at a stunning rate the left want's them gone. Now they are a violation of privacy. Kills your narrative.WilburHooksHands said:
Its also just hard to screen out all the people with violent intentions that want to be cops to play them out with no consequences. What makes me mad and I think a lot of people mad is that when these things occur the police either circle the wagons or pay it bs lip service. The internal pressure on police reform is just not there and it is absolutely essential.GrundleStiltzkin said:
I think there's definitely something to that. I don't to what magnitude.LoneStarDawg said:It’s like being a war for 19 years and bringing marines back to be cops has negative consequences
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I hadn't heard that cameras are bad now.Sledog said:
Plenty of pressure just no evidence. Now that we see body cams etc. exonerating police at a stunning rate the left want's them gone. Now they are a violation of privacy. Kills your narrative.WilburHooksHands said:
Its also just hard to screen out all the people with violent intentions that want to be cops to play them out with no consequences. What makes me mad and I think a lot of people mad is that when these things occur the police either circle the wagons or pay it bs lip service. The internal pressure on police reform is just not there and it is absolutely essential.GrundleStiltzkin said:
I think there's definitely something to that. I don't to what magnitude.LoneStarDawg said:It’s like being a war for 19 years and bringing marines back to be cops has negative consequences
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First, too many things are illegal. Second is the reinvention of catch and release. The more times someone is arrested and released with little to no consequences means that person will have multiple interactions with the cops. Each interaction introduces another chance for a bad result. Third, being a cop in a major blue city has to be one of the worst jobs in the US, but it does pay well. This isn't going to attract the best and the brightest. It will attract individuals with a god complex who get off on the power of the badge and the gun. Next, way too many cops are union members first and cops second. The culture is to protect the job no matter what. Finally, the political and social leadership is rotten. Tolerance of Antifa is an example. If the KKK was fomenting the violence, they would be in jail. For Antifa is pretty much a catch and release. There is no serious penalty for mobbing up and breaking sh*t that doesn't belong to you. On the other hand, if a store owner shot one in the head for throwing a brick through his store window, that's will get you a long prison sentence. The left has no tolerance for using violence to stop the riot, in fact they have a huge tolerance for the violence. We can just watch as capital will flee blue cities as the mayors will not protect private property. These mayors will then be bewildered as these areas deteriorate.
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Sledog said:
Plenty of pressure just no evidence.WilburHooksHands said:
Its also just hard to screen out all the people with violent intentions that want to be cops to play them out with no consequences. What makes me mad and I think a lot of people mad is that when these things occur the police either circle the wagons or pay it bs lip service. The internal pressure on police reform is just not there and it is absolutely essential.GrundleStiltzkin said:
I think there's definitely something to that. I don't to what magnitude.LoneStarDawg said:It’s like being a war for 19 years and bringing marines back to be cops has negative consequences
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Only chance you have in reforming is when things are generally good and you have blatant instances of abuse like with George Floyd which causes everyone to unite and say things need to change. Follow that up though with burning a few cities and people are like 'that was bad, but we aren't giving cops less power right now with all of this shite going on'. Basically grinds everything back to the status quo, which is what both the police and the leftists groups want.WilburHooksHands said:
Its also just hard to screen out all the people with violent intentions that want to be cops to play them out with no consequences. What makes me mad and I think a lot of people mad is that when these things occur the police either circle the wagons or pay it bs lip service. The internal pressure on police reform is just not there and it is absolutely essential.GrundleStiltzkin said:
I think there's definitely something to that. I don't to what magnitude.LoneStarDawg said:It’s like being a war for 19 years and bringing marines back to be cops has negative consequences
Best thing BLM could do is distance itself and attack ANTIFA for co-opting and corrupting the response to George Floyd...I think a lot of folks on the ground in the group would actually agree. Don't think the leadership would though...esp since they started taking all that Soros $$$.
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It's the new thing. Not working out how the left thought. Not big yet we'll have to wait and see.RaceBannon said:
I hadn't heard that cameras are bad now.Sledog said:
Plenty of pressure just no evidence. Now that we see body cams etc. exonerating police at a stunning rate the left want's them gone. Now they are a violation of privacy. Kills your narrative.WilburHooksHands said:
Its also just hard to screen out all the people with violent intentions that want to be cops to play them out with no consequences. What makes me mad and I think a lot of people mad is that when these things occur the police either circle the wagons or pay it bs lip service. The internal pressure on police reform is just not there and it is absolutely essential.GrundleStiltzkin said:
I think there's definitely something to that. I don't to what magnitude.LoneStarDawg said:It’s like being a war for 19 years and bringing marines back to be cops has negative consequences
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Doesn’t matter. Cameras will Never go away now.
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Much more difficult to make martyrs like Mike Brown when ball don’t lie video exists.RaceBannon said:
I hadn't heard that cameras are bad now.Sledog said:
Plenty of pressure just no evidence. Now that we see body cams etc. exonerating police at a stunning rate the left want's them gone. Now they are a violation of privacy. Kills your narrative.WilburHooksHands said:
Its also just hard to screen out all the people with violent intentions that want to be cops to play them out with no consequences. What makes me mad and I think a lot of people mad is that when these things occur the police either circle the wagons or pay it bs lip service. The internal pressure on police reform is just not there and it is absolutely essential.GrundleStiltzkin said:
I think there's definitely something to that. I don't to what magnitude.LoneStarDawg said:It’s like being a war for 19 years and bringing marines back to be cops has negative consequences
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There is a lot of this I agree with, although I think you should draw the line between the leadership of the leftist groups and the folks on the ground as you did with BLM. Maybe that was your point though.HoustonHusky said:
Only chance you have in reforming is when things are generally good and you have blatant instances of abuse like with George Floyd which causes everyone to unite and say things need to change. Follow that up though with burning a few cities and people are like 'that was bad, but we aren't giving cops less power right now with all of this shite going on'. Basically grinds everything back to the status quo, which is what both the police and the leftists groups want.WilburHooksHands said:
Its also just hard to screen out all the people with violent intentions that want to be cops to play them out with no consequences. What makes me mad and I think a lot of people mad is that when these things occur the police either circle the wagons or pay it bs lip service. The internal pressure on police reform is just not there and it is absolutely essential.GrundleStiltzkin said:
I think there's definitely something to that. I don't to what magnitude.LoneStarDawg said:It’s like being a war for 19 years and bringing marines back to be cops has negative consequences
Best thing BLM could do is distance itself and attack ANTIFA for co-opting and corrupting the response to George Floyd...I think a lot of folks on the ground in the group would actually agree. Don't think the leadership would though...esp since they started taking all that Soros $$$. -
Not true. The video of Brown committing a strong arm robbery of the liquor store which was the catalyst for the contact was completely ignored and dismissed by the left. The left only likes proof if it's on their side. Otherwise it's all fake and photoshopped.NorthwestFresh said:
Much more difficult to make martyrs like Mike Brown when ball don’t lie video exists.RaceBannon said:
I hadn't heard that cameras are bad now.Sledog said:
Plenty of pressure just no evidence. Now that we see body cams etc. exonerating police at a stunning rate the left want's them gone. Now they are a violation of privacy. Kills your narrative.WilburHooksHands said:
Its also just hard to screen out all the people with violent intentions that want to be cops to play them out with no consequences. What makes me mad and I think a lot of people mad is that when these things occur the police either circle the wagons or pay it bs lip service. The internal pressure on police reform is just not there and it is absolutely essential.GrundleStiltzkin said:
I think there's definitely something to that. I don't to what magnitude.LoneStarDawg said:It’s like being a war for 19 years and bringing marines back to be cops has negative consequences
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I agree I don't want them to go away. They have proven complaints as false damn near 100% of the time in my experience.doogie said:Doesn’t matter. Cameras will Never go away now.
Drone policing is Tanned Rested and Ready -
You are mistaken in thinking that BLM and Antifa have different goals. Both are Marxist organizations that want to abolish existing police forces and capitalism. Neither really give a sh*t about black lives. Or white lives.
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The only answer to stopping generational crime and poverty is mandatory abortion and birth control by income level.
You cant afford kids too bad.
I doubt parents would be letting kids roam around in gangs fucking shit up if they actually cared about them because they actually wanted them.
In the 18 years between....mandate either college, trade school, or military service.
You failing high school or not showing up? Military style boarding schools.
Case closed.
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Not really. I think the average BLM protestors generally want things to improve. I think the ANTIFA protestors are generally anarchists and communists who want to overthrow everything current America stands for. Go look at the ANTIFA guys that beat up that guy on the streets of Portland yesterday...they were literally wearing Satanic shirts. No joke. That's not their leadership...that's the ground crew. They aren't looking out for George Floyd...they are there to cause mayhem in whatever form they can and this was just the excuse/cover for their real goal.WilburHooksHands said:
There is a lot of this I agree with, although I think you should draw the line between the leadership of the leftist groups and the folks on the ground as you did with BLM. Maybe that was your point though.HoustonHusky said:
Only chance you have in reforming is when things are generally good and you have blatant instances of abuse like with George Floyd which causes everyone to unite and say things need to change. Follow that up though with burning a few cities and people are like 'that was bad, but we aren't giving cops less power right now with all of this shite going on'. Basically grinds everything back to the status quo, which is what both the police and the leftists groups want.WilburHooksHands said:
Its also just hard to screen out all the people with violent intentions that want to be cops to play them out with no consequences. What makes me mad and I think a lot of people mad is that when these things occur the police either circle the wagons or pay it bs lip service. The internal pressure on police reform is just not there and it is absolutely essential.GrundleStiltzkin said:
I think there's definitely something to that. I don't to what magnitude.LoneStarDawg said:It’s like being a war for 19 years and bringing marines back to be cops has negative consequences
Best thing BLM could do is distance itself and attack ANTIFA for co-opting and corrupting the response to George Floyd...I think a lot of folks on the ground in the group would actually agree. Don't think the leadership would though...esp since they started taking all that Soros $$$. -
I dont consider ANTIFA a legitimate leftist group personally, they are just anarchists as you said. It depends how you want to define leftist, if we are using marxism and fascism as the poles then I guess that’s fair. As you said, I believe the average BLM protester has their intentions in the right place, and in that sense we shouldn’t consider basic human rights as either right or left.HoustonHusky said:
Not really. I think the average BLM protestors generally want things to improve. I think the ANTIFA protestors are generally anarchists and communists who want to overthrow everything current America stands for. Go look at the ANTIFA guys that beat up that guy on the streets of Portland yesterday...they were literally wearing Satanic shirts. No joke. That's not their leadership...that's the ground crew. They aren't looking out for George Floyd...they are there to cause mayhem in whatever form they can and this was just the excuse/cover for their real goal.WilburHooksHands said:
There is a lot of this I agree with, although I think you should draw the line between the leadership of the leftist groups and the folks on the ground as you did with BLM. Maybe that was your point though.HoustonHusky said:
Only chance you have in reforming is when things are generally good and you have blatant instances of abuse like with George Floyd which causes everyone to unite and say things need to change. Follow that up though with burning a few cities and people are like 'that was bad, but we aren't giving cops less power right now with all of this shite going on'. Basically grinds everything back to the status quo, which is what both the police and the leftists groups want.WilburHooksHands said:
Its also just hard to screen out all the people with violent intentions that want to be cops to play them out with no consequences. What makes me mad and I think a lot of people mad is that when these things occur the police either circle the wagons or pay it bs lip service. The internal pressure on police reform is just not there and it is absolutely essential.GrundleStiltzkin said:
I think there's definitely something to that. I don't to what magnitude.LoneStarDawg said:It’s like being a war for 19 years and bringing marines back to be cops has negative consequences
Best thing BLM could do is distance itself and attack ANTIFA for co-opting and corrupting the response to George Floyd...I think a lot of folks on the ground in the group would actually agree. Don't think the leadership would though...esp since they started taking all that Soros $$$. -
Plenty of left wing media stories about Antifa and BLM collaboration.
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Aspiring doctor Mike Brown attacking and robbing the Asian shop owner and then attacking Darren Wilson is irrelevant. Noted legal legend @HHusky says that one witness saw “Hands Up Don’t Shoot” so that’s what happened and damn it he’s sticking to that story.Sledog said:
Not true. The video of Brown committing a strong arm robbery of the liquor store which was the catalyst for the contact was completely ignored and dismissed by the left. The left only likes proof if it's on their side. Otherwise it's all fake and photoshopped.NorthwestFresh said:
Much more difficult to make martyrs like Mike Brown when ball don’t lie video exists.RaceBannon said:
I hadn't heard that cameras are bad now.Sledog said:
Plenty of pressure just no evidence. Now that we see body cams etc. exonerating police at a stunning rate the left want's them gone. Now they are a violation of privacy. Kills your narrative.WilburHooksHands said:
Its also just hard to screen out all the people with violent intentions that want to be cops to play them out with no consequences. What makes me mad and I think a lot of people mad is that when these things occur the police either circle the wagons or pay it bs lip service. The internal pressure on police reform is just not there and it is absolutely essential.GrundleStiltzkin said:
I think there's definitely something to that. I don't to what magnitude.LoneStarDawg said:It’s like being a war for 19 years and bringing marines back to be cops has negative consequences
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Soros funds both and his only goal is socialism he can control.HoustonHusky said:
Not really. I think the average BLM protestors generally want things to improve. I think the ANTIFA protestors are generally anarchists and communists who want to overthrow everything current America stands for. Go look at the ANTIFA guys that beat up that guy on the streets of Portland yesterday...they were literally wearing Satanic shirts. No joke. That's not their leadership...that's the ground crew. They aren't looking out for George Floyd...they are there to cause mayhem in whatever form they can and this was just the excuse/cover for their real goal.WilburHooksHands said:
There is a lot of this I agree with, although I think you should draw the line between the leadership of the leftist groups and the folks on the ground as you did with BLM. Maybe that was your point though.HoustonHusky said:
Only chance you have in reforming is when things are generally good and you have blatant instances of abuse like with George Floyd which causes everyone to unite and say things need to change. Follow that up though with burning a few cities and people are like 'that was bad, but we aren't giving cops less power right now with all of this shite going on'. Basically grinds everything back to the status quo, which is what both the police and the leftists groups want.WilburHooksHands said:
Its also just hard to screen out all the people with violent intentions that want to be cops to play them out with no consequences. What makes me mad and I think a lot of people mad is that when these things occur the police either circle the wagons or pay it bs lip service. The internal pressure on police reform is just not there and it is absolutely essential.GrundleStiltzkin said:
I think there's definitely something to that. I don't to what magnitude.LoneStarDawg said:It’s like being a war for 19 years and bringing marines back to be cops has negative consequences
Best thing BLM could do is distance itself and attack ANTIFA for co-opting and corrupting the response to George Floyd...I think a lot of folks on the ground in the group would actually agree. Don't think the leadership would though...esp since they started taking all that Soros $$$. -
Those people 100% joined the marines to go fuck up arabs for a decade, then when that ended they settled into police work.WilburHooksHands said:
Its also just hard to screen out all the people with violent intentions that want to be cops to play them out with no consequences. What makes me mad and I think a lot of people mad is that when these things occur the police either circle the wagons or pay it bs lip service. The internal pressure on police reform is just not there and it is absolutely essential.GrundleStiltzkin said:
I think there's definitely something to that. I don't to what magnitude.LoneStarDawg said:It’s like being a war for 19 years and bringing marines back to be cops has negative consequences
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TIL in the tug that big government favoring socialists and anarchists are the sameSledog said:
Soros funds both and his only goal is socialism he can control.HoustonHusky said:
Not really. I think the average BLM protestors generally want things to improve. I think the ANTIFA protestors are generally anarchists and communists who want to overthrow everything current America stands for. Go look at the ANTIFA guys that beat up that guy on the streets of Portland yesterday...they were literally wearing Satanic shirts. No joke. That's not their leadership...that's the ground crew. They aren't looking out for George Floyd...they are there to cause mayhem in whatever form they can and this was just the excuse/cover for their real goal.WilburHooksHands said:
There is a lot of this I agree with, although I think you should draw the line between the leadership of the leftist groups and the folks on the ground as you did with BLM. Maybe that was your point though.HoustonHusky said:
Only chance you have in reforming is when things are generally good and you have blatant instances of abuse like with George Floyd which causes everyone to unite and say things need to change. Follow that up though with burning a few cities and people are like 'that was bad, but we aren't giving cops less power right now with all of this shite going on'. Basically grinds everything back to the status quo, which is what both the police and the leftists groups want.WilburHooksHands said:
Its also just hard to screen out all the people with violent intentions that want to be cops to play them out with no consequences. What makes me mad and I think a lot of people mad is that when these things occur the police either circle the wagons or pay it bs lip service. The internal pressure on police reform is just not there and it is absolutely essential.GrundleStiltzkin said:
I think there's definitely something to that. I don't to what magnitude.LoneStarDawg said:It’s like being a war for 19 years and bringing marines back to be cops has negative consequences
Best thing BLM could do is distance itself and attack ANTIFA for co-opting and corrupting the response to George Floyd...I think a lot of folks on the ground in the group would actually agree. Don't think the leadership would though...esp since they started taking all that Soros $$$. -
Both want the destruction of Capitalism and the overthrow of the existing order. They are more than happy to work together in pursuit of that goal.NEsnake12 said:
TIL in the tug that big government favoring socialists and anarchists are the sameSledog said:
Soros funds both and his only goal is socialism he can control.HoustonHusky said:
Not really. I think the average BLM protestors generally want things to improve. I think the ANTIFA protestors are generally anarchists and communists who want to overthrow everything current America stands for. Go look at the ANTIFA guys that beat up that guy on the streets of Portland yesterday...they were literally wearing Satanic shirts. No joke. That's not their leadership...that's the ground crew. They aren't looking out for George Floyd...they are there to cause mayhem in whatever form they can and this was just the excuse/cover for their real goal.WilburHooksHands said:
There is a lot of this I agree with, although I think you should draw the line between the leadership of the leftist groups and the folks on the ground as you did with BLM. Maybe that was your point though.HoustonHusky said:
Only chance you have in reforming is when things are generally good and you have blatant instances of abuse like with George Floyd which causes everyone to unite and say things need to change. Follow that up though with burning a few cities and people are like 'that was bad, but we aren't giving cops less power right now with all of this shite going on'. Basically grinds everything back to the status quo, which is what both the police and the leftists groups want.WilburHooksHands said:
Its also just hard to screen out all the people with violent intentions that want to be cops to play them out with no consequences. What makes me mad and I think a lot of people mad is that when these things occur the police either circle the wagons or pay it bs lip service. The internal pressure on police reform is just not there and it is absolutely essential.GrundleStiltzkin said:
I think there's definitely something to that. I don't to what magnitude.LoneStarDawg said:It’s like being a war for 19 years and bringing marines back to be cops has negative consequences
Best thing BLM could do is distance itself and attack ANTIFA for co-opting and corrupting the response to George Floyd...I think a lot of folks on the ground in the group would actually agree. Don't think the leadership would though...esp since they started taking all that Soros $$$.
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Some cops just want to think they’re still in the marines
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They should have said please.NEsnake12 said:Some cops just want to think they’re still in the marines
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Inside means inside evidently. Ingrish!
