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DoogieMcDoogerson
DoogieMcDoogerson Member Posts: 2,509
Seattle Tech is behind the building boom in the city and the tech workers occupy a high percentage of office space. Businesses all throughout this city support the workforce. Restaurants, Bars, Barbers, etc.

Tech has just figured out that they're actually more productive working remotely and they will only cement that feeling stronger the longer the city stays shut down. Tech ain't coming back. The homeless can now have the downtown core...

The economic impact of tech pulling out of Seattle will be the end of the story...

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  • DoogieMcDoogerson
    DoogieMcDoogerson Member Posts: 2,509
    You must not work in tech...
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,800 Founders Club

    Tech is going no where any time soon. Companies still need headquarters. Teams and Zoom calls are going to get really fucking old really fast

    That was the sentiment before this shit happened. Not having a commute means more working hours, people are still producing because, you know, there's evidence that you've done nothing.

    Maybe the business/support sides comes back.

    Dev isn't.
  • thechatch
    thechatch Member Posts: 7,277 Standard Supporter
    Home prices in Bellevue-Kirkland-Redmond-Issaquah about to get a big bump.
  • thechatch
    thechatch Member Posts: 7,277 Standard Supporter
    Lol at the idea of young people wanting to live in Tacoma.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,067
    thechatch said:

    Lol at the idea of young people wanting to live in Tacoma.

    @Ballz
  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,216
    thechatch said:

    Lol at the idea of young people wanting to live in Tacoma.

    The 253 is getting WAY nicer. UW Tacoma has completely transformed downtown - there is actually shit to do and cool bars....if any of them survive this fucking virus hoax
  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,216
    haie said:

    Tech is going no where any time soon. Companies still need headquarters. Teams and Zoom calls are going to get really fucking old really fast

    That was the sentiment before this shit happened. Not having a commute means more working hours, people are still producing because, you know, there's evidence that you've done nothing.

    Maybe the business/support sides comes back.

    Dev isn't.
    The commute for most tech workers in Seattle is like 10 minutes

    Amazon didnt just build 10000000000 square feet of office space to let it collect dust. Management there is notoriously micro as well. That place only employs half the fucking work force my age
  • BleachedAnusDawg
    BleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 13,310 Standard Supporter
    edited May 2020

    haie said:

    Tech is going no where any time soon. Companies still need headquarters. Teams and Zoom calls are going to get really fucking old really fast

    That was the sentiment before this shit happened. Not having a commute means more working hours, people are still producing because, you know, there's evidence that you've done nothing.

    Maybe the business/support sides comes back.

    Dev isn't.
    The commute for most tech workers in Seattle is like 10 minutes

    Amazon didnt just build 10000000000 square feet of office space to let it collect dust. Management there is notoriously micro as well. That place only employs half the fucking work force my age
    They're gonna sublet or convert the space to condos after the Council passes an Amazon tax.

    I don't work in tech, but I am going to shift my workforce to 50% remote as a result of COVID and the West Seattle Bridge shutdown revealing that having a full-service office is a waste of fucking money. Teams and Asana (or Trello, etc) make it easier than ever to manage staff and projects. We will shift to having a "storefront" office with 3 people on-site, and the rest working from home. I might actually miss the ferry commute, though.
  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,216
    edited May 2020

    haie said:

    Tech is going no where any time soon. Companies still need headquarters. Teams and Zoom calls are going to get really fucking old really fast

    That was the sentiment before this shit happened. Not having a commute means more working hours, people are still producing because, you know, there's evidence that you've done nothing.

    Maybe the business/support sides comes back.

    Dev isn't.
    The commute for most tech workers in Seattle is like 10 minutes

    Amazon didnt just build 10000000000 square feet of office space to let it collect dust. Management there is notoriously micro as well. That place only employs half the fucking work force my age
    They're gonna sublet or convert the space to condos after the Council passes an Amazon tax.

    I don't work in tech, but I am going to shift my workforce to 50% remote as a result of COVID and the West Seattle Bridge shutdown revealing that having a full-service office is a waste of fucking money. Teams and Asana (or Trello, etc) make it easier than ever to manage staff and projects. We will shift to having a "storefront" office with 3 people on-site, and the rest working from home. I might actually miss the ferry commute, though.
    It works for some people and companies. Im doing a hybrid thing now, some days remote and some in the office.

    Im a LOT more productive in the office.

    I actually prefer the hybrid setup, because the days Im in the office I get everything done and the remote days I coast.

    It's easy for managers to tell who is actually producing in an office as well. It's tougher remotely and they have to rely on stalking people with software like Activtrak

    I think everyone would be happier with a 4 day workweek and be just as productive in many industries.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,118 Standard Supporter
    Imagine going into an office each day....

    Fuck that.


  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    Or getting “ permission” to work remote
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913

    thechatch said:

    Lol at the idea of young people wanting to live in Tacoma.

    The 253 is getting WAY nicer. UW Tacoma has completely transformed downtown - there is actually shit to do and cool bars....if any of them survive this fucking virus hoax
    Sounds like downtown Tac may be becoming the next Maltby.
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913

    Imagine going into an office each day....

    Fuck that.


    It's been my saving grace.


    My revolutionary thoughts could have easily led to action if I had to stay at home all fucking day.
  • NorthwestFresh
    NorthwestFresh Member Posts: 7,972

    Tech is going no where any time soon. Companies still need headquarters. Teams and Zoom calls are going to get really fucking old really fast

    They already are.
    Well stop whining and get used to it. Saves a shitload on overhead. The horse-and-buggy days of thousands of people working at a central location aren’t coming back to previous levels. Zoom stock has been a nice gain the last two months. Sorry you missed out on easy money.
  • BleachedAnusDawg
    BleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 13,310 Standard Supporter

    Imagine going into an office each day....

    Fuck that.


    Gigolo lifestyle is not for all.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,118 Standard Supporter
    doogie said:

    Or getting “ permission” to work remote

    Getting permission period.

    Fuck that.

    Ask for forgiveness instead.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,965

    doogie said:


    Doogie - I live in Tacoma. That bar is incredible. People bashing Tacoma don't get it. It's what Seattle used to be before ultra liberal politics, tech, and traffic ruined it. Beautiful older affordable homes, access to the water, local restaurants and pubs, and people who actually fucking talk to each other. From the North End you can literally walk to many of these establishments below and local light rail being installed will further improve access.

    Highlights in no particular order:
    E9
    1111
    Peaks and Pints
    Wooden City
    The Forum
    Devil's Reef
    DOA
    MSM
    Asado
    Red Hot
    Rock the Dock
    Dusty's Hideaway
    Hanks
    Parkway
    Top of Tacoma

    and of course, my personal "value" favorite, Loose Wheel. The Loose Wheel would be a hardcore husky favorite with the Steak, Salad, and Side specials under $20.00. A true Ribs and Rickshaw special.

    People don't get it.

    Downsides:
    Lots of petty crime and the occasional murder by machete.

    You fuckers bashing tacoma are paying 2X-3X to live in a shitty suburb that has no fucking character and is filled with a bunch of assholes like you.
    Chinned for bashing the fucking suburbs.
  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    If you work from home you can live @ point Ruston on the water next to the second largest city park with beaches, trails, boat launch, boat rental, bait shop, Yacht Club, zoo, aquarium, for under $1M new

    Remote work is going to change a lot of things.
  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,216

    doogie said:


    Doogie - I live in Tacoma. That bar is incredible. People bashing Tacoma don't get it. It's what Seattle used to be before ultra liberal politics, tech, and traffic ruined it. Beautiful older affordable homes, access to the water, local restaurants and pubs, and people who actually fucking talk to each other. From the North End you can literally walk to many of these establishments below and local light rail being installed will further improve access.

    Highlights in no particular order:
    E9
    1111
    Peaks and Pints
    Wooden City
    The Forum
    Devil's Reef
    DOA
    MSM
    Asado
    Red Hot
    Rock the Dock
    Dusty's Hideaway
    Hanks
    Parkway
    Top of Tacoma

    and of course, my personal "value" favorite, Loose Wheel. The Loose Wheel would be a hardcore husky favorite with the Steak, Salad, and Side specials under $20.00. A true Ribs and Rickshaw special.

    People don't get it.

    Downsides:
    Lots of petty crime and the occasional murder by machete.

    You fuckers bashing tacoma are paying 2X-3X to live in a shitty suburb that has no fucking character and is filled with a bunch of assholes like you.
    Agreed. Grew up in the 253 and got sick of it, now appreciate it more

    The fucking paper mill needs to be moved to Aberdeen already though