How Seattle Dies...

Tech has just figured out that they're actually more productive working remotely and they will only cement that feeling stronger the longer the city stays shut down. Tech ain't coming back. The homeless can now have the downtown core...
The economic impact of tech pulling out of Seattle will be the end of the story...
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Tech is going no where any time soon. Companies still need headquarters. Teams and Zoom calls are going to get really fucking old really fast
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They already are.PostGameOrangeSlices said:Tech is going no where any time soon. Companies still need headquarters. Teams and Zoom calls are going to get really fucking old really fast
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You must not work in tech...
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That was the sentiment before this shit happened. Not having a commute means more working hours, people are still producing because, you know, there's evidence that you've done nothing.PostGameOrangeSlices said:Tech is going no where any time soon. Companies still need headquarters. Teams and Zoom calls are going to get really fucking old really fast
Maybe the business/support sides comes back.
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Home prices in Bellevue-Kirkland-Redmond-Issaquah about to get a big bump.
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Lol at the idea of young people wanting to live in Tacoma.
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The 253 is getting WAY nicer. UW Tacoma has completely transformed downtown - there is actually shit to do and cool bars....if any of them survive this fucking virus hoaxthechatch said:Lol at the idea of young people wanting to live in Tacoma.
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The commute for most tech workers in Seattle is like 10 minuteshaie said:
That was the sentiment before this shit happened. Not having a commute means more working hours, people are still producing because, you know, there's evidence that you've done nothing.PostGameOrangeSlices said:Tech is going no where any time soon. Companies still need headquarters. Teams and Zoom calls are going to get really fucking old really fast
Maybe the business/support sides comes back.
Dev isn't.
Amazon didnt just build 10000000000 square feet of office space to let it collect dust. Management there is notoriously micro as well. That place only employs half the fucking work force my age -
They're gonna sublet or convert the space to condos after the Council passes an Amazon tax.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
The commute for most tech workers in Seattle is like 10 minuteshaie said:
That was the sentiment before this shit happened. Not having a commute means more working hours, people are still producing because, you know, there's evidence that you've done nothing.PostGameOrangeSlices said:Tech is going no where any time soon. Companies still need headquarters. Teams and Zoom calls are going to get really fucking old really fast
Maybe the business/support sides comes back.
Dev isn't.
Amazon didnt just build 10000000000 square feet of office space to let it collect dust. Management there is notoriously micro as well. That place only employs half the fucking work force my age
I don't work in tech, but I am going to shift my workforce to 50% remote as a result of COVID and the West Seattle Bridge shutdown revealing that having a full-service office is a waste of fucking money. Teams and Asana (or Trello, etc) make it easier than ever to manage staff and projects. We will shift to having a "storefront" office with 3 people on-site, and the rest working from home. I might actually miss the ferry commute, though. -
It works for some people and companies. Im doing a hybrid thing now, some days remote and some in the office.BleachedAnusDawg said:
They're gonna sublet or convert the space to condos after the Council passes an Amazon tax.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
The commute for most tech workers in Seattle is like 10 minuteshaie said:
That was the sentiment before this shit happened. Not having a commute means more working hours, people are still producing because, you know, there's evidence that you've done nothing.PostGameOrangeSlices said:Tech is going no where any time soon. Companies still need headquarters. Teams and Zoom calls are going to get really fucking old really fast
Maybe the business/support sides comes back.
Dev isn't.
Amazon didnt just build 10000000000 square feet of office space to let it collect dust. Management there is notoriously micro as well. That place only employs half the fucking work force my age
I don't work in tech, but I am going to shift my workforce to 50% remote as a result of COVID and the West Seattle Bridge shutdown revealing that having a full-service office is a waste of fucking money. Teams and Asana (or Trello, etc) make it easier than ever to manage staff and projects. We will shift to having a "storefront" office with 3 people on-site, and the rest working from home. I might actually miss the ferry commute, though.
Im a LOT more productive in the office.
I actually prefer the hybrid setup, because the days Im in the office I get everything done and the remote days I coast.
It's easy for managers to tell who is actually producing in an office as well. It's tougher remotely and they have to rely on stalking people with software like Activtrak
I think everyone would be happier with a 4 day workweek and be just as productive in many industries. -
Imagine going into an office each day....
Fuck that.
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Or getting “ permission” to work remote
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Sounds like downtown Tac may be becoming the next Maltby.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
The 253 is getting WAY nicer. UW Tacoma has completely transformed downtown - there is actually shit to do and cool bars....if any of them survive this fucking virus hoaxthechatch said:Lol at the idea of young people wanting to live in Tacoma.
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It's been my saving grace.PurpleThrobber said:Imagine going into an office each day....
Fuck that.
My revolutionary thoughts could have easily led to action if I had to stay at home all fucking day. -
Well stop whining and get used to it. Saves a shitload on overhead. The horse-and-buggy days of thousands of people working at a central location aren’t coming back to previous levels. Zoom stock has been a nice gain the last two months. Sorry you missed out on easy money.ThomasFremont said:
They already are.PostGameOrangeSlices said:Tech is going no where any time soon. Companies still need headquarters. Teams and Zoom calls are going to get really fucking old really fast
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Gigolo lifestyle is not for all.PurpleThrobber said:Imagine going into an office each day....
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Getting permission period.doogie said:Or getting “ permission” to work remote
Fuck that.
Ask for forgiveness instead.
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Doogie - I live in Tacoma. That bar is incredible. People bashing Tacoma don't get it. It's what Seattle used to be before ultra liberal politics, tech, and traffic ruined it. Beautiful older affordable homes, access to the water, local restaurants and pubs, and people who actually fucking talk to each other. From the North End you can literally walk to many of these establishments below and local light rail being installed will further improve access.doogie said:
Highlights in no particular order:
E9
1111
Peaks and Pints
Wooden City
The Forum
Devil's Reef
DOA
MSM
Asado
Red Hot
Rock the Dock
Dusty's Hideaway
Hanks
Parkway
Top of Tacoma
and of course, my personal "value" favorite, Loose Wheel. The Loose Wheel would be a hardcore husky favorite with the Steak, Salad, and Side specials under $20.00. A true Ribs and Rickshaw special.
People don't get it.
Downsides:
Lots of petty crime and the occasional murder by machete.
You fuckers bashing tacoma are paying 2X-3X to live in a shitty suburb that has no fucking character and is filled with a bunch of assholes like you. -
Chinned for bashing the fucking suburbs.DoogieMcDoogerson said:
Doogie - I live in Tacoma. That bar is incredible. People bashing Tacoma don't get it. It's what Seattle used to be before ultra liberal politics, tech, and traffic ruined it. Beautiful older affordable homes, access to the water, local restaurants and pubs, and people who actually fucking talk to each other. From the North End you can literally walk to many of these establishments below and local light rail being installed will further improve access.doogie said:
Highlights in no particular order:
E9
1111
Peaks and Pints
Wooden City
The Forum
Devil's Reef
DOA
MSM
Asado
Red Hot
Rock the Dock
Dusty's Hideaway
Hanks
Parkway
Top of Tacoma
and of course, my personal "value" favorite, Loose Wheel. The Loose Wheel would be a hardcore husky favorite with the Steak, Salad, and Side specials under $20.00. A true Ribs and Rickshaw special.
People don't get it.
Downsides:
Lots of petty crime and the occasional murder by machete.
You fuckers bashing tacoma are paying 2X-3X to live in a shitty suburb that has no fucking character and is filled with a bunch of assholes like you. -
If you work from home you can live @ point Ruston on the water next to the second largest city park with beaches, trails, boat launch, boat rental, bait shop, Yacht Club, zoo, aquarium, for under $1M new
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Agreed. Grew up in the 253 and got sick of it, now appreciate it moreDoogieMcDoogerson said:
Doogie - I live in Tacoma. That bar is incredible. People bashing Tacoma don't get it. It's what Seattle used to be before ultra liberal politics, tech, and traffic ruined it. Beautiful older affordable homes, access to the water, local restaurants and pubs, and people who actually fucking talk to each other. From the North End you can literally walk to many of these establishments below and local light rail being installed will further improve access.doogie said:
Highlights in no particular order:
E9
1111
Peaks and Pints
Wooden City
The Forum
Devil's Reef
DOA
MSM
Asado
Red Hot
Rock the Dock
Dusty's Hideaway
Hanks
Parkway
Top of Tacoma
and of course, my personal "value" favorite, Loose Wheel. The Loose Wheel would be a hardcore husky favorite with the Steak, Salad, and Side specials under $20.00. A true Ribs and Rickshaw special.
People don't get it.
Downsides:
Lots of petty crime and the occasional murder by machete.
You fuckers bashing tacoma are paying 2X-3X to live in a shitty suburb that has no fucking character and is filled with a bunch of assholes like you.
The fucking paper mill needs to be moved to Aberdeen already though