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Coronavirus: Trump says he’s been taking hydroxychloroquine for a ‘few weeks’
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I disagree with Pelosi here. I'm all for our morbidly obese dumbshit in chief taking a drug that poses health risks to morbidly obese people.georgiaduck said:Pelosi was on Anderson Cooper last night saying Trump shouldn't take it because he's "Morbidly Obese". Hope Stacey Abrams doesn't start taking it as well.
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You suck at this. The risk to elderly obese Americans is the chi com crud. Far outweighs a malaria drug taken by millions of Americans. The stupidity of the left is on stunning display once again.MontlakeBridgeTroll said:
I disagree with Pelosi here. I'm all for our morbidly obese dumbshit in chief taking a drug that poses health risks to morbidly obese people.georgiaduck said:Pelosi was on Anderson Cooper last night saying Trump shouldn't take it because he's "Morbidly Obese". Hope Stacey Abrams doesn't start taking it as well.
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No, a tent.thechatch said:Is she wearing living room drapes?
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How is he “morbidly obese,” other than you defending Peloso’s slander?ThomasFremont said:He is morbidly obese and we crossed the Rubicon on decorum years ago.
Race to the bottom.
How long until Eric or Don Jr tweets to Hunter Biden that their dad could beat up his dad?
Are we gonna bring pistol dueling back, because that would actually be fun. -
One to two inches shorter than he claims and 30-40 pounds heavier.NorthwestFresh said:
How is he “morbidly obese,” other than you defending Peloso’s slander?ThomasFremont said:He is morbidly obese and we crossed the Rubicon on decorum years ago.
Race to the bottom.
How long until Eric or Don Jr tweets to Hunter Biden that their dad could beat up his dad?
Are we gonna bring pistol dueling back, because that would actually be fun. -
Bashing Trump is fine but if we're gonna bash being one to two inches shorter than you claim and 30-40 pounds heavier I'm fucking out!HHusky said:
One to two inches shorter than he claims and 30-40 pounds heavier.NorthwestFresh said:
How is he “morbidly obese,” other than you defending Peloso’s slander?ThomasFremont said:He is morbidly obese and we crossed the Rubicon on decorum years ago.
Race to the bottom.
How long until Eric or Don Jr tweets to Hunter Biden that their dad could beat up his dad?
Are we gonna bring pistol dueling back, because that would actually be fun.
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Well. Hunter Biden would actually have to show himself, be it electronically or physically for that to happen, No?ThomasFremont said:He is morbidly obese and we crossed the Rubicon on decorum years ago.
Race to the bottom.
How long until Eric or Don Jr tweets to Hunter Biden that their dad could beat up his dad?
Are we gonna bring pistol dueling back, because that would actually be fun. -
For a pistol duel? Physical would be optimal.salemcoog said:
Well. Hunter Biden would actually have to show himself, be it electronically or physically for that to happen, No?ThomasFremont said:He is morbidly obese and we crossed the Rubicon on decorum years ago.
Race to the bottom.
How long until Eric or Don Jr tweets to Hunter Biden that their dad could beat up his dad?
Are we gonna bring pistol dueling back, because that would actually be fun. -
Don’t mess with a Biden on Angel Dust...ThomasFremont said:
For a pistol duel? Physical would be optimal.salemcoog said:
Well. Hunter Biden would actually have to show himself, be it electronically or physically for that to happen, No?ThomasFremont said:He is morbidly obese and we crossed the Rubicon on decorum years ago.
Race to the bottom.
How long until Eric or Don Jr tweets to Hunter Biden that their dad could beat up his dad?
Are we gonna bring pistol dueling back, because that would actually be fun. -
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Like all rats, they lie. Cuomo is a POS liar. Rain is wet.GrundleStiltzkin said: -
I'd explain to you the irony of someone from the Wal-Mart Trump fan class trying to judge the intelligence of others but I'm certain that if you were capable of understanding it you'd already know.WestlinnDuck said:
The stupidity of the leftMontlakeBridgeTroll said:
I disagree with Pelosi here. I'm all for our morbidly obese dumbshit in chief taking a drug that poses health risks to morbidly obese people.georgiaduck said:Pelosi was on Anderson Cooper last night saying Trump shouldn't take it because he's "Morbidly Obese". Hope Stacey Abrams doesn't start taking it as well.
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He's actually got it backwards. Chloroquine is a derivative of quinine, not the other way around.GrundleStiltzkin said:
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Keep mocking the "wal mart" crowd. That's what cost Hillary the election in 2016. Solid strategy making fun of half the country.MontlakeBridgeTroll said:
I'd explain to you the irony of someone from the Wal-Mart Trump fan class trying to judge the intelligence of others but I'm certain that if you were capable of understanding it you'd already know.WestlinnDuck said:
The stupidity of the leftMontlakeBridgeTroll said:
I disagree with Pelosi here. I'm all for our morbidly obese dumbshit in chief taking a drug that poses health risks to morbidly obese people.georgiaduck said:Pelosi was on Anderson Cooper last night saying Trump shouldn't take it because he's "Morbidly Obese". Hope Stacey Abrams doesn't start taking it as well.
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TrumptardMikeDamone said:
Keep mocking the "wal mart" crowd. That's what cost Hillary the election in 2016. Solid strategy making fun of half the country.MontlakeBridgeTroll said:
I'd explain to you the irony of someone from the Wal-Mart Trump fan class trying to judge the intelligence of others but I'm certain that if you were capable of understanding it you'd already know.WestlinnDuck said:
The stupidity of the leftMontlakeBridgeTroll said:
I disagree with Pelosi here. I'm all for our morbidly obese dumbshit in chief taking a drug that poses health risks to morbidly obese people.georgiaduck said:Pelosi was on Anderson Cooper last night saying Trump shouldn't take it because he's "Morbidly Obese". Hope Stacey Abrams doesn't start taking it as well.
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Beyond these studies of individual patients, we have seen what happens in large populations when these drugs are used. These have been "natural experiments." In the northern Brazil state of Pará, COVID-19 deaths were increasing exponentially. On April 6, the public hospital network purchased 75,000 doses of azithromycin and 90,000 doses of hydroxychloroquine. Over the next few weeks, authorities began distributing these medications to infected individuals. Even though new cases continued to occur, on May 22 the death rate started to plummet and is now about one-eighth what it was at the peak.
A reverse natural experiment happened in Switzerland. On May 27, the Swiss national government banned outpatient use of hydroxychloroquine for COVID-19. Around June 10, COVID-19 deaths increased four-fold and remained elevated. On June 11, the Swiss government revoked the ban, and on June 23 the death rate reverted to what it had been beforehand. People who die from COVID-19 live about three to five weeks from the start of symptoms, which makes the evidence of a causal relation in these experiments strong. Both episodes suggest that a combination of hydroxychloroquine and its companion medications reduces mortality and should be immediately adopted as the new standard of care in high-risk patients. -
Liberals caused deaths needlessly of thousands due to their tds
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Trump said a lot of stupid shit in March & April. I don’t his talk of hydroxychorolinebebebh was one of them. Hell, even @BearsWiin was positive about the stuff.
I don’t know if the shit works. Politicizing even research & trials on it was pure TDS fuckery. -
The fact that it's super cheap and readily available does not help. It's almost like someone or something does not want a resounding stoppage to this deadly pandemic.GrundleStiltzkin said:Trump said a lot of stupid shit in March & April. I don’t his talk of hydroxychorolinebebebh was one of them. Hell, even @BearsWiin was positive about the stuff.
I don’t know if the shit works. Politicizing even research & trials on it was pure TDS fuckery. -
One poont I saw elsewhere (maybe Scott Adams, maybe someone else), that is harleyquinn/zpac/zinc stack was truly a magic bullet, there’d be no hiding it.89ute said:
The fact that it's super cheap and readily available does not help. It's almost like someone or something does not want a resounding stoppage to this deadly pandemic.GrundleStiltzkin said:Trump said a lot of stupid shit in March & April. I don’t his talk of hydroxychorolinebebebh was one of them. Hell, even @BearsWiin was positive about the stuff.
I don’t know if the shit works. Politicizing even research & trials on it was pure TDS fuckery. -
My understanding is that it works a lot better when taken immediately. And yes in our media they will hide things. After all, they are hiding the spying that happened.
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Right now, there is more observational evidence that suggests no effect than effect, whether it's used for prevention or for treatment.GrundleStiltzkin said:Beyond these studies of individual patients, we have seen what happens in large populations when these drugs are used. These have been "natural experiments." In the northern Brazil state of Pará, COVID-19 deaths were increasing exponentially. On April 6, the public hospital network purchased 75,000 doses of azithromycin and 90,000 doses of hydroxychloroquine. Over the next few weeks, authorities began distributing these medications to infected individuals. Even though new cases continued to occur, on May 22 the death rate started to plummet and is now about one-eighth what it was at the peak.
A reverse natural experiment happened in Switzerland. On May 27, the Swiss national government banned outpatient use of hydroxychloroquine for COVID-19. Around June 10, COVID-19 deaths increased four-fold and remained elevated. On June 11, the Swiss government revoked the ban, and on June 23 the death rate reverted to what it had been beforehand. People who die from COVID-19 live about three to five weeks from the start of symptoms, which makes the evidence of a causal relation in these experiments strong. Both episodes suggest that a combination of hydroxychloroquine and its companion medications reduces mortality and should be immediately adopted as the new standard of care in high-risk patients.
To counter those claims from the Newsweek article, US saw decreases in deaths from April to May. It does not mention control for confounding between the two points in Brazil (e.g., if more old people had cases in April then most young people had cases in May).
Swiss one doesn't account for what outpatient or inpatient use of the drug was like before or after the ban. Additionally, the ban was only on outpatient use, so the critically ill could still receive it inpatient. Also, the deaths did quadruple, but it was from about 2 to 8. Switzerland has been relatively flat from about May 12 onward. -
Rational discussion here is verbotenwhatshouldicareabout said:
Right now, there is more observational evidence that suggests no effect than effect, whether it's used for prevention or for treatment.GrundleStiltzkin said:Beyond these studies of individual patients, we have seen what happens in large populations when these drugs are used. These have been "natural experiments." In the northern Brazil state of Pará, COVID-19 deaths were increasing exponentially. On April 6, the public hospital network purchased 75,000 doses of azithromycin and 90,000 doses of hydroxychloroquine. Over the next few weeks, authorities began distributing these medications to infected individuals. Even though new cases continued to occur, on May 22 the death rate started to plummet and is now about one-eighth what it was at the peak.
A reverse natural experiment happened in Switzerland. On May 27, the Swiss national government banned outpatient use of hydroxychloroquine for COVID-19. Around June 10, COVID-19 deaths increased four-fold and remained elevated. On June 11, the Swiss government revoked the ban, and on June 23 the death rate reverted to what it had been beforehand. People who die from COVID-19 live about three to five weeks from the start of symptoms, which makes the evidence of a causal relation in these experiments strong. Both episodes suggest that a combination of hydroxychloroquine and its companion medications reduces mortality and should be immediately adopted as the new standard of care in high-risk patients.
To counter those claims from the Newsweek article, US saw decreases in deaths from April to May. It does not mention control for confounding between the two points in Brazil (e.g., if more old people had cases in April then most young people had cases in May).
Swiss one doesn't account for what outpatient or inpatient use of the drug was like before or after the ban. Additionally, the ban was only on outpatient use, so the critically ill could still receive it inpatient. Also, the deaths did quadruple, but it was from about 2 to 8. Switzerland has been relatively flat from about May 12 onward. -
The problem is that for some reason the medical profession nor the MSM does not want an accurate assessment of HXQ, Z pack and zinc when administered early. There is plenty of strong anecdotal evidence. But, for example, in Oregon I don't know if it is routinely administered early in a chicom crud positive case, particularly with underlying medical issues.
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Democrats and RINOs killed tens of thousands needlessly in order to defeat Trump and make their Big Pharma donors happy with vaccines and on-patent meds. Yes, that did happen.
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This website has 64 studies, 39 peer reviewed all cited and linked https://c19study.com/whatshouldicareabout said:
Right now, there is more observational evidence that suggests no effect than effect, whether it's used for prevention or for treatment.GrundleStiltzkin said:Beyond these studies of individual patients, we have seen what happens in large populations when these drugs are used. These have been "natural experiments." In the northern Brazil state of Pará, COVID-19 deaths were increasing exponentially. On April 6, the public hospital network purchased 75,000 doses of azithromycin and 90,000 doses of hydroxychloroquine. Over the next few weeks, authorities began distributing these medications to infected individuals. Even though new cases continued to occur, on May 22 the death rate started to plummet and is now about one-eighth what it was at the peak.
A reverse natural experiment happened in Switzerland. On May 27, the Swiss national government banned outpatient use of hydroxychloroquine for COVID-19. Around June 10, COVID-19 deaths increased four-fold and remained elevated. On June 11, the Swiss government revoked the ban, and on June 23 the death rate reverted to what it had been beforehand. People who die from COVID-19 live about three to five weeks from the start of symptoms, which makes the evidence of a causal relation in these experiments strong. Both episodes suggest that a combination of hydroxychloroquine and its companion medications reduces mortality and should be immediately adopted as the new standard of care in high-risk patients.
To counter those claims from the Newsweek article, US saw decreases in deaths from April to May. It does not mention control for confounding between the two points in Brazil (e.g., if more old people had cases in April then most young people had cases in May).
Swiss one doesn't account for what outpatient or inpatient use of the drug was like before or after the ban. Additionally, the ban was only on outpatient use, so the critically ill could still receive it inpatient. Also, the deaths did quadruple, but it was from about 2 to 8. Switzerland has been relatively flat from about May 12 onward.
Pre, Post, and Early exposure HCQ treatment has returned high positive results, certainly well enough to merit regular prescription given its cost, accessibility, and known side-effects.
The majority of the HCQ studies that returned mixed, no effect, or negative effect are in late treatment studies.
Additionally... the IFR of covid is so low that studies are going to struggle with sample/control issues no matter the treatment.
There are a lot of "tricks" to help but its hard to quantify what percentage you are helping of an already very small percentage, in people who are statistical outliers, that very likely are only at risk due to extreme age, unique healthcare conditions, and/or preexisting co-morbidity.
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If this HDCQ debate proves anything, it proves that the Democratic Party is no longer just corrupt and hypocritical, but has become truly evil.89ute said:
The fact that it's super cheap and readily available does not help. It's almost like someone or something does not want a resounding stoppage to this deadly pandemic.GrundleStiltzkin said:Trump said a lot of stupid shit in March & April. I don’t his talk of hydroxychorolinebebebh was one of them. Hell, even @BearsWiin was positive about the stuff.
I don’t know if the shit works. Politicizing even research & trials on it was pure TDS fuckery. -
She’s got the best voice.
