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priapism
priapism Member Posts: 2,373
Good CBC doc about the strategy that Putin keeps using on his former satellite countries, which he will take back.

Doc appears to be made in 2008, but the Putin strategy hasn't and isn't going to change.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5Rkom1RpKA
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  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,658
    Problem is, many of his former satellite countries are now in NATO.

    And after the Ukraine clusterfuck, those that aren't really, really want to become members.

    Putin's charades are going to hurt Russia far more than it will help it. Now all of Europe wants to get off Russian gas even faster than they previously did, and when that happens, Russia is fucked.
  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 69,700 Founders Club
    I had hoped this thread was going to be about one of my favorite players, former Expo Vladimir Guerrero.
  • bananasnblondes
    bananasnblondes Member Posts: 15,574

    I had hoped this thread was going to be about one of my favorite players, former Expo Vladimir Guerrero.

    I was hoping it was going to be about Vlad the Impaler
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,855
  • priapism
    priapism Member Posts: 2,373

    Problem is, many of his former satellite countries are now in NATO.

    And after the Ukraine clusterfuck, those that aren't really, really want to become members.

    Putin's charades are going to hurt Russia far more than it will help it. Now all of Europe wants to get off Russian gas even faster than they previously did, and when that happens, Russia is fucked.

    So then, Putin should move faster on Ukraine?

    30-40% of Europe's electricity comes from Gazprom...would take decades to get off this much Russian power. Putin still has plenty of time to take back his satellites. Ukraine and the satellites should have developed WMDs. Maybe the U.S. can sneak some over and sell them some soon.
  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,658
    priapism said:

    Problem is, many of his former satellite countries are now in NATO.

    And after the Ukraine clusterfuck, those that aren't really, really want to become members.

    Putin's charades are going to hurt Russia far more than it will help it. Now all of Europe wants to get off Russian gas even faster than they previously did, and when that happens, Russia is fucked.

    So then, Putin should move faster on Ukraine?
    I'm not

    Problem is, many of his former satellite countries are now in NATO.

    And after the Ukraine clusterfuck, those that aren't really, really want to become members.

    Putin's charades are going to hurt Russia far more than it will help it. Now all of Europe wants to get off Russian gas even faster than they previously did, and when that happens, Russia is fucked.

    Disagree. The EU is a cluster economically. They won't do shit. Militarily or economically. Their actions will be "strongly condemned" and Obama will tell him to get out of the satellites in "the strongest language possibly" but no one is going to do a fucking thing.
    Uhhh, what?

    Russia isn't going any further. Most of the satellites worth a shit are in NATO.

    If Russia does move against NATO, Europe is more than capable of kicking Russia's ass.

    Europe does rely heavily on Russian gas, but Norway and Scandinavia are making plans to build new pipelines. None of Europe likes using Russian gas, they are trying to come up with any alternatives they can to Gazprom fuel.
  • topdawgnc
    topdawgnc Member Posts: 7,839

    priapism said:

    Problem is, many of his former satellite countries are now in NATO.

    And after the Ukraine clusterfuck, those that aren't really, really want to become members.

    Putin's charades are going to hurt Russia far more than it will help it. Now all of Europe wants to get off Russian gas even faster than they previously did, and when that happens, Russia is fucked.

    So then, Putin should move faster on Ukraine?
    I'm not

    Problem is, many of his former satellite countries are now in NATO.

    And after the Ukraine clusterfuck, those that aren't really, really want to become members.

    Putin's charades are going to hurt Russia far more than it will help it. Now all of Europe wants to get off Russian gas even faster than they previously did, and when that happens, Russia is fucked.

    Disagree. The EU is a cluster economically. They won't do shit. Militarily or economically. Their actions will be "strongly condemned" and Obama will tell him to get out of the satellites in "the strongest language possibly" but no one is going to do a fucking thing.
    Uhhh, what?

    Russia isn't going any further. Most of the satellites worth a shit are in NATO.

    If Russia does move against NATO, Europe is more than capable of kicking Russia's ass.

    Europe does rely heavily on Russian gas, but Norway and Scandinavia are making plans to build new pipelines. None of Europe likes using Russian gas, they are trying to come up with any alternatives they can to Gazprom fuel.
    Napoleon and Hitler both believed that too.

    Putin knows nobody will move to check him.

    Ukraine was CarterFS for giving up their nukes ...

    The world was too giddy from the love fest after the fall of the Soviet Union to realize history would repeat itself.

    America encircled Russia by pulling countries into NATO Bush Sr. promised would not be recruited.

    Bush Jr did nothing when tanks rolled into Georgia.

    Obama does nothing now with Ukraine.

    ... Hitler rose to power on the backs of a broken nation looking for a hero. Putin is doing the same.

    Europe will do nothing ... America will do nothing.

    Leaders of the free world are like a bunch of Cuckolds watching Russia fuck their wives.
  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,658
    edited April 2014
    topdawgnc said:

    priapism said:

    Problem is, many of his former satellite countries are now in NATO.

    And after the Ukraine clusterfuck, those that aren't really, really want to become members.

    Putin's charades are going to hurt Russia far more than it will help it. Now all of Europe wants to get off Russian gas even faster than they previously did, and when that happens, Russia is fucked.

    So then, Putin should move faster on Ukraine?
    I'm not

    Problem is, many of his former satellite countries are now in NATO.

    And after the Ukraine clusterfuck, those that aren't really, really want to become members.

    Putin's charades are going to hurt Russia far more than it will help it. Now all of Europe wants to get off Russian gas even faster than they previously did, and when that happens, Russia is fucked.

    Disagree. The EU is a cluster economically. They won't do shit. Militarily or economically. Their actions will be "strongly condemned" and Obama will tell him to get out of the satellites in "the strongest language possibly" but no one is going to do a fucking thing.
    Uhhh, what?

    Russia isn't going any further. Most of the satellites worth a shit are in NATO.

    If Russia does move against NATO, Europe is more than capable of kicking Russia's ass.

    Europe does rely heavily on Russian gas, but Norway and Scandinavia are making plans to build new pipelines. None of Europe likes using Russian gas, they are trying to come up with any alternatives they can to Gazprom fuel.
    Napoleon and Hitler both believed that too.

    Putin knows nobody will move to check him.

    Ukraine was CarterFS for giving up their nukes ...

    The world was too giddy from the love fest after the fall of the Soviet Union to realize history would repeat itself.

    America encircled Russia by pulling countries into NATO Bush Sr. promised would not be recruited.

    Bush Jr did nothing when tanks rolled into Georgia.

    Obama does nothing now with Ukraine.

    ... Hitler rose to power on the backs of a broken nation looking for a hero. Putin is doing the same.

    Europe will do nothing ... America will do nothing.

    Leaders of the free world are like a bunch of Cuckolds watching Russia fuck their wives.

    You are fucking stupid.

    No one gives a fuck about Georgia, and no one really gives a fuck about the Crimea annexation, or Ukraine.

    Russia attacking a NATO country is a completely different story. Every NATO member is obligated to declare war on Russia, and they will. No one likes Russia, and Russia doesn't have that strong of a military. France, England, and the US would fuck Russia up.

    Christ people on this forum are fucking ignorant