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Candace Owens on the Arbery killing

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  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,076
    The outcome was far in excess of the crime committed.

    That said, in the heat of the moment, dude breaks into the Throbber's house, steals his finest sex toys....there's gonna be hell to pay chasing him down the road. Words get exchanged, things escalate, quite easily can see how it gets out of hand fast.

    Father and son will cop to a manslaughter charge or Murder 2. Not gonna see these two in the chair.

  • georgiaduck
    georgiaduck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 2,603 Swaye's Wigwam

    The outcome was far in excess of the crime committed.

    That said, in the heat of the moment, dude breaks into the Throbber's house, steals his finest sex toys....there's gonna be hell to pay chasing him down the road. Words get exchanged, things escalate, quite easily can see how it gets out of hand fast.

    Father and son will cop to a manslaughter charge or Murder 2. Not gonna see these two in the chair.

    Correctamundo- but the narrative of both men being Klan members chasing down a random black man to kill him needs to go (be we know it won't). The real story is why it took so long to bring this case to light.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    The outcome was far in excess of the crime committed.

    That said, in the heat of the moment, dude breaks into the Throbber's house, steals his finest sex toys....there's gonna be hell to pay chasing him down the road. Words get exchanged, things escalate, quite easily can see how it gets out of hand fast.

    Father and son will cop to a manslaughter charge or Murder 2. Not gonna see these two in the chair.

    Correctamundo- but the narrative of both men being Klan members chasing down a random black man to kill him needs to go (be we know it won't). The real story is why it took so long to bring this case to light.
    It’s an election year. Rats need this story to be about racist whites gunning down innocent black joggers because of their skin color and TRUMP!

    You can post 100 counter examples like the elderly couple being murdered by the black guy and none of it will even register. When blacks kill whites it’s just crime in the big city not racism. When whites kill blacks it due to white supremacy, just ask Tommy.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,076

    Not a good look for Candace. People go on job sites all the fucking time. If he were running away with power tools, then maybe you have a point, but just walking through and looking at unfinished, not lived in homes is something almost everyone I know has done.

    In all honesty, the Throbber has used said sex toys in houses under construction.....

    Don't judge.

  • LebamDawg
    LebamDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,787 Swaye's Wigwam
    maybe he was a jogger just looking at construction sites? or maybe, as Lebron James says, he was a black guy out jogging and ran into two hunters.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,898
    "breaking into"

    Desperate defense. Walking into an open construction site is not suspicious. Has anyone here not done it?
  • PandaOrangeChiknDuck
    PandaOrangeChiknDuck Member Posts: 545
    edited May 2020

    Not a good look for Candace. People go on job sites all the fucking time. If he were running away with power tools, then maybe you have a point, but just walking through and looking at unfinished, not lived in homes is something almost everyone I know has done.

    This

    Especially in a growing development, its very common for neighbors to go on walks and walk through houses during the course of construction. Even the contractors know this, that's why they don't leave anything of value in the house. Was the kid looking for something to steal? Who knows...but he didn't do anything that 80-90% of people haven't done.
  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,662

    Not a good look for Candace. People go on job sites all the fucking time. If he were running away with power tools, then maybe you have a point, but just walking through and looking at unfinished, not lived in homes is something almost everyone I know has done.

    This

    Especially in a growing development, its very common for neighbors to go on walks and walk through houses during the course of construction. Even the contractors know this, that's why they don't leave anything of value in the house. Was the kid looking for something to steal? Who knows...but he didn't do anything that 80-90% of people haven't done.
    Well see. My money is on manslaughter and then riots
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,039 Standard Supporter

    Not a good look for Candace. People go on job sites all the fucking time. If he were running away with power tools, then maybe you have a point, but just walking through and looking at unfinished, not lived in homes is something almost everyone I know has done.

    I think everybody would do well to keep their powder dry on this one for awhile longer. We've probably learned 10-20% of what we need to know to form any opinions of any worth. But being First is the Media Gold Standard today, so we'll fire away, regardless.
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,039 Standard Supporter
    HHusky said:

    "breaking into"

    Desperate defense. Walking into an open construction site is not suspicious. Has anyone here not done it?

    No, it's not suspicious. But it is illegally trespassing on private property, which any shitty lawyer anywhere would know well enough to NOT make such an idiotic statement as you just made.

    But you're not just some lawyer, no. You're @HHusky, the Cucked Betaman Lawyer. Nice work, Dazzler.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,764 Standard Supporter
    edited May 2020
    HHusky said:

    "breaking into"

    Desperate defense. Walking into an open construction site is not suspicious. Has anyone here not done it?

    So you like to trespass where people often leave valuable equipment and supplies. Intelligent.

    In cases like this its what those involved knew at the time. Were they told he was sealing things? Something else?

    As someone said we don't know much about details. I'll reserve judgement until I know more.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    LebamDawg said:

    maybe he was a jogger just looking at construction sites? or maybe, as Lebron James says, he was a black guy out jogging and ran into two hunters.

    Why no outrage when you are "hunted" far more often and with much greater frequency by people that you share the same skin color with? Was the postal worker or the old couple killed in the cemetery "hunted?"
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,039 Standard Supporter
    As any parent would teach their children, you DO NOT go poking around on construction sites, because a) you might get hurt, b) it's private property, and c) people steal shit from them all the time, and if you are seen there, you will be blamed for the thefts.

    My guess is neither of @HHusky's dads taught him this, and his disabling TBI occurred on a construction site.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,764 Standard Supporter
    SFGbob said:

    LebamDawg said:

    maybe he was a jogger just looking at construction sites? or maybe, as Lebron James says, he was a black guy out jogging and ran into two hunters.

    Why no outrage when you are "hunted" far more often and with much greater frequency by people that you share the same skin color with? Was the postal worker or the old couple killed in the cemetery "hunted?"
    Whites can be murdered anywhere for any reason with no attachment of racism no matter the circumstances.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    Black Lives Matter, but only when they are killed by white people.
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,039 Standard Supporter
    edited May 2020

    Not a good look for Candace. People go on job sites all the fucking time. If he were running away with power tools, then maybe you have a point, but just walking through and looking at unfinished, not lived in homes is something almost everyone I know has done.

    I agree with you re: Candace. But as my parents taught me - and what the law says (not that it matters), - "everybody does it" is no excuse and puts you at risk of getting buckshot in your ass, or torso, as the case may be. So I can't give an up or down on this.

    And that makes me feel empty and unsatisfied.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,898

    HHusky said:

    "breaking into"

    Desperate defense. Walking into an open construction site is not suspicious. Has anyone here not done it?

    No, it's not suspicious. But it is illegally trespassing on private property, which any shitty lawyer anywhere would know well enough to NOT make such an idiotic statement as you just made.

    But you're not just some lawyer, no. You're @HHusky, the Cucked Betaman Lawyer. Nice work, Dazzler.
    The homeowner would be the “injured party”. Have you read what he has to say?

    Neighbor walks through home under construction. Film at 11!

    I’ll be out shooting at jaywalkers if anyone needs me.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    "breaking into"

    Desperate defense. Walking into an open construction site is not suspicious. Has anyone here not done it?

    No, it's not suspicious. But it is illegally trespassing on private property, which any shitty lawyer anywhere would know well enough to NOT make such an idiotic statement as you just made.

    But you're not just some lawyer, no. You're @HHusky, the Cucked Betaman Lawyer. Nice work, Dazzler.
    The homeowner would be the “injured party”. Have you read what he has to say?

    Neighbor walks through home under construction. Film at 11!

    I’ll be out shooting at jaywalkers if anyone needs me.
    Given your extensive history of making complete ass out yourself in these matters O'Keefed do you ever consider waiting for more details to emerge before jumping in front, yet again, of another racial lynch mob?
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,039 Standard Supporter
    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    "breaking into"

    Desperate defense. Walking into an open construction site is not suspicious. Has anyone here not done it?

    No, it's not suspicious. But it is illegally trespassing on private property, which any shitty lawyer anywhere would know well enough to NOT make such an idiotic statement as you just made.

    But you're not just some lawyer, no. You're @HHusky, the Cucked Betaman Lawyer. Nice work, Dazzler.
    The homeowner would be the “injured party”. Have you read what he has to say?

    Neighbor walks through home under construction. Film at 11!

    I’ll be out shooting at jaywalkers if anyone needs me.
    Well, I now know you're not a family lawyer, not a criminal lawyer, but are a civil lawyer, aka Ambulance Chaser.

    You're really good at hiding your identity, H. At this rate, I'll have your Bar Number in about a week.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,898
    Narrowed down to civil lawyers in Washington. Strong work! Of course I’ve said that here repeatedly, but I always want to affirm special needs poasters.
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,039 Standard Supporter

    Not a good look for Candace. People go on job sites all the fucking time. If he were running away with power tools, then maybe you have a point, but just walking through and looking at unfinished, not lived in homes is something almost everyone I know has done.

    This

    Especially in a growing development, its very common for neighbors to go on walks and walk through houses during the course of construction. Even the contractors know this, that's why they don't leave anything of value in the house. Was the kid looking for something to steal? Who knows...but he didn't do anything that 80-90% of people haven't done.
    Responses like this worry me and give me a foreboding sense that more shootings like this are inevitable. Again, the "everybody does it" is a terrible standard to approve of or teach is "okay" to children. A better standard is, you never know what you're getting into when you invade somebody else's property, rights, home (including under construction), yard, pasture, woods, or vehicle, so DON'T FUCKING DO IT. It's equally possible the proverbial other guy has already been robbed or burglarized and has stepped up his "security" or vigilance as a result.

    In short, FUCK WITH OTHER PEOPLE'S SHIT AT YOUR OWN RISK. Goddamn! I can't believe I'm hearing these "what's reasonable" or what "should've happened" when another kid is lying dead in the fucking street.

    Just because a lot of people have gotten away with illegal conduct doesn't mean you won't be the first one that catches a bullet for doing the same goddamn'd thing. "That's not fair" doesn't mean jack shit when you're bleeding out in the street. Jesus.
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,039 Standard Supporter
    HHusky said:

    Narrowed down to civil lawyers in Washington. Strong work! Of course I’ve said that here repeatedly, but I always want to affirm special needs poasters.

    Worker's Comp Lawyer: The Legal System's equivalent to Romper Room.
  • huskyhooligan
    huskyhooligan Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 5,930 Swaye's Wigwam

    HHusky said:

    Narrowed down to civil lawyers in Washington. Strong work! Of course I’ve said that here repeatedly, but I always want to affirm special needs poasters.

    Worker's Comp Lawyer: The Legal System's equivalent to Romper Room.
    Those guys are the fucking worst. Basically stealing from injured workers.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,898

    HHusky said:

    Narrowed down to civil lawyers in Washington. Strong work! Of course I’ve said that here repeatedly, but I always want to affirm special needs poasters.

    Worker's Comp Lawyer: The Legal System's equivalent to Romper Room.
    Wrong again, Clouseau.
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,039 Standard Supporter
    edited May 2020

    As any parent would teach their children, you DO NOT go poking around on construction sites, because a) you might get hurt, b) it's private property, and c) people steal shit from them all the time, and if you are seen there, you will be blamed for the thefts.

    My guess is neither of @HHusky's dads taught him this, and his disabling TBI occurred on a construction site.

    Yeah, so lets go block the street with guns out. If you watch the video, kid try's to avoid guys with the guns. There's a clear disadvantage for the guy. Think of it like you snuck into a frat party, were caught, and no you have 30 bro's ready to beat the shit out of you. They can A - Just let you go, or B - Beat the shit out of you. One option is really fucking easy, and the other is much more complicated. I can come up with many more examples. Or how about this one, getting a ticket for going 3 mph over the speed limit. Is it really necessary?
    Point is, you'll be making that same Fairness or Excessive Force argument 5 years from now when 500 more kids are lying dead in the street. Sometimes it's gonna go real bad when you do shit you aren't supposed to do. Understand those risks and that one bad guy or one lucky shot is all it takes to ruin a life.

    P.S. Grabbing guns and pointing them at someone who isn't a visible threat is way, way beyond reasonable, and those two guys are in a heap of shit for that, no matter what. But I don't see Murder yet, based on the video or what I've read. Manslaughter? Maybe. Wrongful Death Suit that bankrupts both guys? Yup.
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,039 Standard Supporter
    edited May 2020
    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Narrowed down to civil lawyers in Washington. Strong work! Of course I’ve said that here repeatedly, but I always want to affirm special needs poasters.

    Worker's Comp Lawyer: The Legal System's equivalent to Romper Room.
    Wrong again, Clouseau.
    So a Comp Lawyer isn't the Legal System's equivalent to Romper Room?

    Oh Right. A bunch of Clarence Darrows, they are. Kreist.

    Great Post, Moron.
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    LebamDawg said:

    maybe he was a jogger just looking at construction sites? or maybe, as Lebron James says, he was a black guy out jogging and ran into two hunters.

    Regardless of this case, Lebron or anyone isn’t “literally being hunted “ when they leave their house. JFC.