When "scientists" play politics..who funds the IHME again?

134,475 deaths now forecasted because google and facebook say so and the states are opening up despite the IHME's advice. Oh and our model sucks so we're going to do a 2.0 and explain it using a bunch of scientific shit like "meta-regression Bayesian regularized trimmed model (MR-BRT)"

I like to say it's a great predictive model that changes every week.

"Scientists credited the surge in part to rising mobility in most U.S. states as well as the easing of social distancing measures expected in 31 states by May 11.

“In each state, the evolution of the epidemic depends on the balance between relaxed social distancing, increasing temperature, and rising rates of testing and contact tracing,” Murray said. “We expect that the epidemic in many states will now extend through the summer.”

"Based on our updated model and latest available data, a projected 134,475 cumulative COVID-19 deaths (estimate range of 95,092 to 242,890) could occur in the US through August. These projections are considerably higher than previous estimates, representing the combined effects of death model updates and formally incorporating the effect of changes in mobility and social distancing policies into transmission dynamics."

http://www.healthdata.org/covid/updates

Who funds the IHME?
IHME receives core grant funding from the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation[52] and the state of Washington. The US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC); Inter-American Development Bank; Gavi, the Vaccine Alliance; the National Heart, Lung and Blood Institute; Kingdom of Saudi Arabia Ministry of Health; Medtronic Philanthropy; and the National Institute on Aging have also contributed funding through project grants and contracts.

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MikeDamone

For my Mom, insurance(s) covered about $1.2 Million over the past 3 years or so

And people are against death panels?

ThomasFremont

For my Mom, insurance(s) covered about $1.2 Million over the past 3 years or so
And people are against death panels?

Follow the money

UW_Doog_Bot

We will hit 72,000 deaths by Wednesday. How many more weeks would you have had them forecasting 72,000 dead by August 4?
Why lie? CDC says >38,000 as of today
no they don't
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm

They do, through 5/2, Table 1. Doesn’t mean it’s the correct number, which is the point.
Those are the NCHS numbers which are based on death certificates (hence they lag by multiple weeks).

Here are the CDC numbers
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/cases-in-us.html

TOTAL DEATHS
67,456
1,719 New Deaths*
Now do how many are presumed covid deaths. In New York, almost every death is classified covid 19. The numbers are cooked, Birx even admitted it.

So let's break down the fear here. Of all of the 70,000 deaths, 60% of them are in a hundred mile radius, 3,000 miles away from the West Coast. As for the rest of the country about half of the deaths originate in nursing homes. Antibody tests performed around the country and world, however flawed, have been pretty consistent that about 4% of the population has it or has had it. So considering that, we are looking at a death rate of .5% of those infected here in Merica.

The virus is dangerous in the heavily populated areas around New York and to those over 80 elsewhere. To the rest of the country and age groups, it's the flu.

The "experts" know that a vaccine isn't going to happen anytime soon and they know there are 10 times the people exposed than what has had a positive test. The "experts" have also said that the Swede Strategy was the way to go. But the unholy trinity of the Western shore continues to lie about using science as their guide to reopening, when it's clear it's about control and politics.
- "In New York, almost every death is classified covid 19." This of course is completely false. In actuality there are fewer covid deaths reported in New York than what are considered deaths above normal for the last 5 years.

As to the rest of your post I actually agree with most of what you posted. The death rate still seems to be somewhere between .65 and .8 heavily concentrated among the olds. Isolate the vulnerable and let the rest of us start opening things up because we can't continue this until a vaccine is widely available (if a vaccine is ever widely available). Multiple countries are getting at least elementary school kids back to school which makes a whole lotta sense considering a total of 8 people under the age of 18 have died from this thing in the US.
Anywhere from 25-30,000 less people are dying each week than average, in our country since the lock down. But if you die in a Hospital in New York, there's an overwhelming chance that the COD will be COV19.
Again - more bullshit. On average about 50-55k people die in the US each week. So you think the death rate has fallen by 50-60% since March...lol? I realize why you think that as again you are relying on NCHS data which lags by as much as 8 weeks but your claim is false.

Looking strictly at NYC from March 8th to April 11th there were approximately 11,900 deaths per week above average. Of those deaths above average only 85% of them were directly linked to Covid. Based upon that it's possible (likely?) that the covid deaths in NYC are actually being undercounted at least slightly.

We will hit 72,000 deaths by Wednesday. How many more weeks would you have had them forecasting 72,000 dead by August 4?
Why lie? CDC says >38,000 as of today
no they don't
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm

They do, through 5/2, Table 1. Doesn’t mean it’s the correct number, which is the point.
Those are the NCHS numbers which are based on death certificates (hence they lag by multiple weeks).

Here are the CDC numbers
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/cases-in-us.html

TOTAL DEATHS
67,456
1,719 New Deaths*
Now do how many are presumed covid deaths. In New York, almost every death is classified covid 19. The numbers are cooked, Birx even admitted it.

So let's break down the fear here. Of all of the 70,000 deaths, 60% of them are in a hundred mile radius, 3,000 miles away from the West Coast. As for the rest of the country about half of the deaths originate in nursing homes. Antibody tests performed around the country and world, however flawed, have been pretty consistent that about 4% of the population has it or has had it. So considering that, we are looking at a death rate of .5% of those infected here in Merica.

The virus is dangerous in the heavily populated areas around New York and to those over 80 elsewhere. To the rest of the country and age groups, it's the flu.

The "experts" know that a vaccine isn't going to happen anytime soon and they know there are 10 times the people exposed than what has had a positive test. The "experts" have also said that the Swede Strategy was the way to go. But the unholy trinity of the Western shore continues to lie about using science as their guide to reopening, when it's clear it's about control and politics.
- "In New York, almost every death is classified covid 19." This of course is completely false. In actuality there are fewer covid deaths reported in New York than what are considered deaths above normal for the last 5 years.

As to the rest of your post I actually agree with most of what you posted. The death rate still seems to be somewhere between .65 and .8 heavily concentrated among the olds. Isolate the vulnerable and let the rest of us start opening things up because we can't continue this until a vaccine is widely available (if a vaccine is ever widely available). Multiple countries are getting at least elementary school kids back to school which makes a whole lotta sense considering a total of 8 people under the age of 18 have died from this thing in the US.
Anywhere from 25-30,000 less people are dying each week than average, in our country since the lock down. But if you die in a Hospital in New York, there's an overwhelming chance that the COD will be COV19.
Again - more bullshit. On average about 50-55k people die in the US each week. So you think the death rate has fallen by 50-60% since March...lol? I realize why you think that as again you are relying on NCHS data which lags by as much as 8 weeks but your claim is false.

Looking strictly at NYC from March 8th to April 11th there were approximately 11,900 deaths per week above average. Of those deaths above average only 85% of them were directly linked to Covid. Based upon that it's possible (likely?) that the covid deaths in NYC are actually being undercounted at least slightly.

It's been reported from doctors, hospital admins, funeral directors, Dr Birx, etc, etc. that New York deaths and deaths all over the country are being rubber stamped as covid without ever being tested. Hospitals are going broke and they get 4 times the Federal dollars for a covid death than not and the Government is encouraging it

And I call bullshit on 12,000 more people than average died per week in New York that month. That would mean that 40% of Americans that died, did so in New York. By your numbers, not mine.

Of course Cuomo just pulled out another 1400 nursing home deaths today out of nowhere. If you consider that fraud as evidence, as why it's under reported, I can't help you.

And Man if we are looking for boogeymen. How can we not have Dibliasio and Cuomo at the head of the charts. The mayor on March 11 balked at closing down Broadway and said he fully intended on having the St Patricks parade. Cuomo on Feb 27th compared it to the flu and said it wasn't a threat via tweet.

In early April when it became clear that the nursing homes in New York were being ravaged. They made no effort to move Seniors out of there. They just let them stew in the virus and infect anyone who dared walk into those petri dishes from hell. Why didn't they use the ship and other temporary facilities to get them out of the nursing homes, so that they could fumigated? Nope. He just would spend 2 hours every morning crying but Trump, Trump, Trump.

Another major factor of infection and death was public transpo. Until this week, they were being "sanitized" every 3 days. And finally this week, they are sanitizing every day for 4 hours. Why did this not happen 6 weeks ago???? How many hundreds if not thousands of people died just because of that?

The leadership of New York has not only failed their state but they have failed the whole country with their ineptness. They are up to their necks in blood.
No they don’t. Do you get your news from bullshit Facebook memes? As part of the stimulus Medicare increased reimbursement for covid patients by 20% and agreed to cover uninsured patients. Do you really think that 20% is leading hospitals to commit widespread fraud?
$39,000 if they die. $11,000 if they get on a vent and live. Pretty common knowledge by now.
I LOVE that you’re making an unintentional case against the for profit medical system.

The government interfering in the market and creating perverse outcomes is a failing of the free market for profit system? OK!

ThomasFremont

We will hit 72,000 deaths by Wednesday. How many more weeks would you have had them forecasting 72,000 dead by August 4?
Why lie? CDC says >38,000 as of today
no they don't
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm

They do, through 5/2, Table 1. Doesn’t mean it’s the correct number, which is the point.
Those are the NCHS numbers which are based on death certificates (hence they lag by multiple weeks).

Here are the CDC numbers
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/cases-in-us.html

TOTAL DEATHS
67,456
1,719 New Deaths*
Now do how many are presumed covid deaths. In New York, almost every death is classified covid 19. The numbers are cooked, Birx even admitted it.

So let's break down the fear here. Of all of the 70,000 deaths, 60% of them are in a hundred mile radius, 3,000 miles away from the West Coast. As for the rest of the country about half of the deaths originate in nursing homes. Antibody tests performed around the country and world, however flawed, have been pretty consistent that about 4% of the population has it or has had it. So considering that, we are looking at a death rate of .5% of those infected here in Merica.

The virus is dangerous in the heavily populated areas around New York and to those over 80 elsewhere. To the rest of the country and age groups, it's the flu.

The "experts" know that a vaccine isn't going to happen anytime soon and they know there are 10 times the people exposed than what has had a positive test. The "experts" have also said that the Swede Strategy was the way to go. But the unholy trinity of the Western shore continues to lie about using science as their guide to reopening, when it's clear it's about control and politics.
- "In New York, almost every death is classified covid 19." This of course is completely false. In actuality there are fewer covid deaths reported in New York than what are considered deaths above normal for the last 5 years.

As to the rest of your post I actually agree with most of what you posted. The death rate still seems to be somewhere between .65 and .8 heavily concentrated among the olds. Isolate the vulnerable and let the rest of us start opening things up because we can't continue this until a vaccine is widely available (if a vaccine is ever widely available). Multiple countries are getting at least elementary school kids back to school which makes a whole lotta sense considering a total of 8 people under the age of 18 have died from this thing in the US.
Anywhere from 25-30,000 less people are dying each week than average, in our country since the lock down. But if you die in a Hospital in New York, there's an overwhelming chance that the COD will be COV19.
Again - more bullshit. On average about 50-55k people die in the US each week. So you think the death rate has fallen by 50-60% since March...lol? I realize why you think that as again you are relying on NCHS data which lags by as much as 8 weeks but your claim is false.

Looking strictly at NYC from March 8th to April 11th there were approximately 11,900 deaths per week above average. Of those deaths above average only 85% of them were directly linked to Covid. Based upon that it's possible (likely?) that the covid deaths in NYC are actually being undercounted at least slightly.

We will hit 72,000 deaths by Wednesday. How many more weeks would you have had them forecasting 72,000 dead by August 4?
Why lie? CDC says >38,000 as of today
no they don't
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm

They do, through 5/2, Table 1. Doesn’t mean it’s the correct number, which is the point.
Those are the NCHS numbers which are based on death certificates (hence they lag by multiple weeks).

Here are the CDC numbers
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/cases-in-us.html

TOTAL DEATHS
67,456
1,719 New Deaths*
Now do how many are presumed covid deaths. In New York, almost every death is classified covid 19. The numbers are cooked, Birx even admitted it.

So let's break down the fear here. Of all of the 70,000 deaths, 60% of them are in a hundred mile radius, 3,000 miles away from the West Coast. As for the rest of the country about half of the deaths originate in nursing homes. Antibody tests performed around the country and world, however flawed, have been pretty consistent that about 4% of the population has it or has had it. So considering that, we are looking at a death rate of .5% of those infected here in Merica.

The virus is dangerous in the heavily populated areas around New York and to those over 80 elsewhere. To the rest of the country and age groups, it's the flu.

The "experts" know that a vaccine isn't going to happen anytime soon and they know there are 10 times the people exposed than what has had a positive test. The "experts" have also said that the Swede Strategy was the way to go. But the unholy trinity of the Western shore continues to lie about using science as their guide to reopening, when it's clear it's about control and politics.
- "In New York, almost every death is classified covid 19." This of course is completely false. In actuality there are fewer covid deaths reported in New York than what are considered deaths above normal for the last 5 years.

As to the rest of your post I actually agree with most of what you posted. The death rate still seems to be somewhere between .65 and .8 heavily concentrated among the olds. Isolate the vulnerable and let the rest of us start opening things up because we can't continue this until a vaccine is widely available (if a vaccine is ever widely available). Multiple countries are getting at least elementary school kids back to school which makes a whole lotta sense considering a total of 8 people under the age of 18 have died from this thing in the US.
Anywhere from 25-30,000 less people are dying each week than average, in our country since the lock down. But if you die in a Hospital in New York, there's an overwhelming chance that the COD will be COV19.
Again - more bullshit. On average about 50-55k people die in the US each week. So you think the death rate has fallen by 50-60% since March...lol? I realize why you think that as again you are relying on NCHS data which lags by as much as 8 weeks but your claim is false.

Looking strictly at NYC from March 8th to April 11th there were approximately 11,900 deaths per week above average. Of those deaths above average only 85% of them were directly linked to Covid. Based upon that it's possible (likely?) that the covid deaths in NYC are actually being undercounted at least slightly.

It's been reported from doctors, hospital admins, funeral directors, Dr Birx, etc, etc. that New York deaths and deaths all over the country are being rubber stamped as covid without ever being tested. Hospitals are going broke and they get 4 times the Federal dollars for a covid death than not and the Government is encouraging it

And I call bullshit on 12,000 more people than average died per week in New York that month. That would mean that 40% of Americans that died, did so in New York. By your numbers, not mine.

Of course Cuomo just pulled out another 1400 nursing home deaths today out of nowhere. If you consider that fraud as evidence, as why it's under reported, I can't help you.

And Man if we are looking for boogeymen. How can we not have Dibliasio and Cuomo at the head of the charts. The mayor on March 11 balked at closing down Broadway and said he fully intended on having the St Patricks parade. Cuomo on Feb 27th compared it to the flu and said it wasn't a threat via tweet.

In early April when it became clear that the nursing homes in New York were being ravaged. They made no effort to move Seniors out of there. They just let them stew in the virus and infect anyone who dared walk into those petri dishes from hell. Why didn't they use the ship and other temporary facilities to get them out of the nursing homes, so that they could fumigated? Nope. He just would spend 2 hours every morning crying but Trump, Trump, Trump.

Another major factor of infection and death was public transpo. Until this week, they were being "sanitized" every 3 days. And finally this week, they are sanitizing every day for 4 hours. Why did this not happen 6 weeks ago???? How many hundreds if not thousands of people died just because of that?

The leadership of New York has not only failed their state but they have failed the whole country with their ineptness. They are up to their necks in blood.
No they don’t. Do you get your news from bullshit Facebook memes? As part of the stimulus Medicare increased reimbursement for covid patients by 20% and agreed to cover uninsured patients. Do you really think that 20% is leading hospitals to commit widespread fraud?
$39,000 if they die. $11,000 if they get on a vent and live. Pretty common knowledge by now.
I LOVE that you’re making an unintentional case against the for profit medical system.
The government interfering in the market and creating perverse outcomes is a failing of the free market for profit system? OK!

Please name one industry where the government has absolutely zero interference...

Kaepsknee

We will hit 72,000 deaths by Wednesday. How many more weeks would you have had them forecasting 72,000 dead by August 4?
Why lie? CDC says >38,000 as of today
no they don't
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm

They do, through 5/2, Table 1. Doesn’t mean it’s the correct number, which is the point.
Those are the NCHS numbers which are based on death certificates (hence they lag by multiple weeks).

Here are the CDC numbers
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/cases-in-us.html

TOTAL DEATHS
67,456
1,719 New Deaths*
Now do how many are presumed covid deaths. In New York, almost every death is classified covid 19. The numbers are cooked, Birx even admitted it.

So let's break down the fear here. Of all of the 70,000 deaths, 60% of them are in a hundred mile radius, 3,000 miles away from the West Coast. As for the rest of the country about half of the deaths originate in nursing homes. Antibody tests performed around the country and world, however flawed, have been pretty consistent that about 4% of the population has it or has had it. So considering that, we are looking at a death rate of .5% of those infected here in Merica.

The virus is dangerous in the heavily populated areas around New York and to those over 80 elsewhere. To the rest of the country and age groups, it's the flu.

The "experts" know that a vaccine isn't going to happen anytime soon and they know there are 10 times the people exposed than what has had a positive test. The "experts" have also said that the Swede Strategy was the way to go. But the unholy trinity of the Western shore continues to lie about using science as their guide to reopening, when it's clear it's about control and politics.
- "In New York, almost every death is classified covid 19." This of course is completely false. In actuality there are fewer covid deaths reported in New York than what are considered deaths above normal for the last 5 years.

As to the rest of your post I actually agree with most of what you posted. The death rate still seems to be somewhere between .65 and .8 heavily concentrated among the olds. Isolate the vulnerable and let the rest of us start opening things up because we can't continue this until a vaccine is widely available (if a vaccine is ever widely available). Multiple countries are getting at least elementary school kids back to school which makes a whole lotta sense considering a total of 8 people under the age of 18 have died from this thing in the US.
Anywhere from 25-30,000 less people are dying each week than average, in our country since the lock down. But if you die in a Hospital in New York, there's an overwhelming chance that the COD will be COV19.
Again - more bullshit. On average about 50-55k people die in the US each week. So you think the death rate has fallen by 50-60% since March...lol? I realize why you think that as again you are relying on NCHS data which lags by as much as 8 weeks but your claim is false.

Looking strictly at NYC from March 8th to April 11th there were approximately 11,900 deaths per week above average. Of those deaths above average only 85% of them were directly linked to Covid. Based upon that it's possible (likely?) that the covid deaths in NYC are actually being undercounted at least slightly.

We will hit 72,000 deaths by Wednesday. How many more weeks would you have had them forecasting 72,000 dead by August 4?
Why lie? CDC says >38,000 as of today
no they don't
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm

They do, through 5/2, Table 1. Doesn’t mean it’s the correct number, which is the point.
Those are the NCHS numbers which are based on death certificates (hence they lag by multiple weeks).

Here are the CDC numbers
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/cases-in-us.html

TOTAL DEATHS
67,456
1,719 New Deaths*
Now do how many are presumed covid deaths. In New York, almost every death is classified covid 19. The numbers are cooked, Birx even admitted it.

So let's break down the fear here. Of all of the 70,000 deaths, 60% of them are in a hundred mile radius, 3,000 miles away from the West Coast. As for the rest of the country about half of the deaths originate in nursing homes. Antibody tests performed around the country and world, however flawed, have been pretty consistent that about 4% of the population has it or has had it. So considering that, we are looking at a death rate of .5% of those infected here in Merica.

The virus is dangerous in the heavily populated areas around New York and to those over 80 elsewhere. To the rest of the country and age groups, it's the flu.

The "experts" know that a vaccine isn't going to happen anytime soon and they know there are 10 times the people exposed than what has had a positive test. The "experts" have also said that the Swede Strategy was the way to go. But the unholy trinity of the Western shore continues to lie about using science as their guide to reopening, when it's clear it's about control and politics.
- "In New York, almost every death is classified covid 19." This of course is completely false. In actuality there are fewer covid deaths reported in New York than what are considered deaths above normal for the last 5 years.

As to the rest of your post I actually agree with most of what you posted. The death rate still seems to be somewhere between .65 and .8 heavily concentrated among the olds. Isolate the vulnerable and let the rest of us start opening things up because we can't continue this until a vaccine is widely available (if a vaccine is ever widely available). Multiple countries are getting at least elementary school kids back to school which makes a whole lotta sense considering a total of 8 people under the age of 18 have died from this thing in the US.
Anywhere from 25-30,000 less people are dying each week than average, in our country since the lock down. But if you die in a Hospital in New York, there's an overwhelming chance that the COD will be COV19.
Again - more bullshit. On average about 50-55k people die in the US each week. So you think the death rate has fallen by 50-60% since March...lol? I realize why you think that as again you are relying on NCHS data which lags by as much as 8 weeks but your claim is false.

Looking strictly at NYC from March 8th to April 11th there were approximately 11,900 deaths per week above average. Of those deaths above average only 85% of them were directly linked to Covid. Based upon that it's possible (likely?) that the covid deaths in NYC are actually being undercounted at least slightly.

It's been reported from doctors, hospital admins, funeral directors, Dr Birx, etc, etc. that New York deaths and deaths all over the country are being rubber stamped as covid without ever being tested. Hospitals are going broke and they get 4 times the Federal dollars for a covid death than not and the Government is encouraging it

And I call bullshit on 12,000 more people than average died per week in New York that month. That would mean that 40% of Americans that died, did so in New York. By your numbers, not mine.

Of course Cuomo just pulled out another 1400 nursing home deaths today out of nowhere. If you consider that fraud as evidence, as why it's under reported, I can't help you.

And Man if we are looking for boogeymen. How can we not have Dibliasio and Cuomo at the head of the charts. The mayor on March 11 balked at closing down Broadway and said he fully intended on having the St Patricks parade. Cuomo on Feb 27th compared it to the flu and said it wasn't a threat via tweet.

In early April when it became clear that the nursing homes in New York were being ravaged. They made no effort to move Seniors out of there. They just let them stew in the virus and infect anyone who dared walk into those petri dishes from hell. Why didn't they use the ship and other temporary facilities to get them out of the nursing homes, so that they could fumigated? Nope. He just would spend 2 hours every morning crying but Trump, Trump, Trump.

Another major factor of infection and death was public transpo. Until this week, they were being "sanitized" every 3 days. And finally this week, they are sanitizing every day for 4 hours. Why did this not happen 6 weeks ago???? How many hundreds if not thousands of people died just because of that?

The leadership of New York has not only failed their state but they have failed the whole country with their ineptness. They are up to their necks in blood.
No they don’t. Do you get your news from bullshit Facebook memes? As part of the stimulus Medicare increased reimbursement for covid patients by 20% and agreed to cover uninsured patients. Do you really think that 20% is leading hospitals to commit widespread fraud?
$39,000 if they die. $11,000 if they get on a vent and live. Pretty common knowledge by now.
I LOVE that you’re making an unintentional case against the for profit medical system.
The government interfering in the market and creating perverse outcomes is a failing of the free market for profit system? OK!
Please name one industry where the government has absolutely zero interference...

Pimps, Hoes and Brothels??? I know they require frequent testing and protocol at a Brothel, but that’s just good business if ya axe me.

UW_Doog_Bot

We will hit 72,000 deaths by Wednesday. How many more weeks would you have had them forecasting 72,000 dead by August 4?
Why lie? CDC says >38,000 as of today
no they don't
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm

They do, through 5/2, Table 1. Doesn’t mean it’s the correct number, which is the point.
Those are the NCHS numbers which are based on death certificates (hence they lag by multiple weeks).

Here are the CDC numbers
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/cases-in-us.html

TOTAL DEATHS
67,456
1,719 New Deaths*
Now do how many are presumed covid deaths. In New York, almost every death is classified covid 19. The numbers are cooked, Birx even admitted it.

So let's break down the fear here. Of all of the 70,000 deaths, 60% of them are in a hundred mile radius, 3,000 miles away from the West Coast. As for the rest of the country about half of the deaths originate in nursing homes. Antibody tests performed around the country and world, however flawed, have been pretty consistent that about 4% of the population has it or has had it. So considering that, we are looking at a death rate of .5% of those infected here in Merica.

The virus is dangerous in the heavily populated areas around New York and to those over 80 elsewhere. To the rest of the country and age groups, it's the flu.

The "experts" know that a vaccine isn't going to happen anytime soon and they know there are 10 times the people exposed than what has had a positive test. The "experts" have also said that the Swede Strategy was the way to go. But the unholy trinity of the Western shore continues to lie about using science as their guide to reopening, when it's clear it's about control and politics.
- "In New York, almost every death is classified covid 19." This of course is completely false. In actuality there are fewer covid deaths reported in New York than what are considered deaths above normal for the last 5 years.

As to the rest of your post I actually agree with most of what you posted. The death rate still seems to be somewhere between .65 and .8 heavily concentrated among the olds. Isolate the vulnerable and let the rest of us start opening things up because we can't continue this until a vaccine is widely available (if a vaccine is ever widely available). Multiple countries are getting at least elementary school kids back to school which makes a whole lotta sense considering a total of 8 people under the age of 18 have died from this thing in the US.
Anywhere from 25-30,000 less people are dying each week than average, in our country since the lock down. But if you die in a Hospital in New York, there's an overwhelming chance that the COD will be COV19.
Again - more bullshit. On average about 50-55k people die in the US each week. So you think the death rate has fallen by 50-60% since March...lol? I realize why you think that as again you are relying on NCHS data which lags by as much as 8 weeks but your claim is false.

Looking strictly at NYC from March 8th to April 11th there were approximately 11,900 deaths per week above average. Of those deaths above average only 85% of them were directly linked to Covid. Based upon that it's possible (likely?) that the covid deaths in NYC are actually being undercounted at least slightly.

We will hit 72,000 deaths by Wednesday. How many more weeks would you have had them forecasting 72,000 dead by August 4?
Why lie? CDC says >38,000 as of today
no they don't
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm

They do, through 5/2, Table 1. Doesn’t mean it’s the correct number, which is the point.
Those are the NCHS numbers which are based on death certificates (hence they lag by multiple weeks).

Here are the CDC numbers
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/cases-in-us.html

TOTAL DEATHS
67,456
1,719 New Deaths*
Now do how many are presumed covid deaths. In New York, almost every death is classified covid 19. The numbers are cooked, Birx even admitted it.

So let's break down the fear here. Of all of the 70,000 deaths, 60% of them are in a hundred mile radius, 3,000 miles away from the West Coast. As for the rest of the country about half of the deaths originate in nursing homes. Antibody tests performed around the country and world, however flawed, have been pretty consistent that about 4% of the population has it or has had it. So considering that, we are looking at a death rate of .5% of those infected here in Merica.

The virus is dangerous in the heavily populated areas around New York and to those over 80 elsewhere. To the rest of the country and age groups, it's the flu.

The "experts" know that a vaccine isn't going to happen anytime soon and they know there are 10 times the people exposed than what has had a positive test. The "experts" have also said that the Swede Strategy was the way to go. But the unholy trinity of the Western shore continues to lie about using science as their guide to reopening, when it's clear it's about control and politics.
- "In New York, almost every death is classified covid 19." This of course is completely false. In actuality there are fewer covid deaths reported in New York than what are considered deaths above normal for the last 5 years.

As to the rest of your post I actually agree with most of what you posted. The death rate still seems to be somewhere between .65 and .8 heavily concentrated among the olds. Isolate the vulnerable and let the rest of us start opening things up because we can't continue this until a vaccine is widely available (if a vaccine is ever widely available). Multiple countries are getting at least elementary school kids back to school which makes a whole lotta sense considering a total of 8 people under the age of 18 have died from this thing in the US.
Anywhere from 25-30,000 less people are dying each week than average, in our country since the lock down. But if you die in a Hospital in New York, there's an overwhelming chance that the COD will be COV19.
Again - more bullshit. On average about 50-55k people die in the US each week. So you think the death rate has fallen by 50-60% since March...lol? I realize why you think that as again you are relying on NCHS data which lags by as much as 8 weeks but your claim is false.

Looking strictly at NYC from March 8th to April 11th there were approximately 11,900 deaths per week above average. Of those deaths above average only 85% of them were directly linked to Covid. Based upon that it's possible (likely?) that the covid deaths in NYC are actually being undercounted at least slightly.

It's been reported from doctors, hospital admins, funeral directors, Dr Birx, etc, etc. that New York deaths and deaths all over the country are being rubber stamped as covid without ever being tested. Hospitals are going broke and they get 4 times the Federal dollars for a covid death than not and the Government is encouraging it

And I call bullshit on 12,000 more people than average died per week in New York that month. That would mean that 40% of Americans that died, did so in New York. By your numbers, not mine.

Of course Cuomo just pulled out another 1400 nursing home deaths today out of nowhere. If you consider that fraud as evidence, as why it's under reported, I can't help you.

And Man if we are looking for boogeymen. How can we not have Dibliasio and Cuomo at the head of the charts. The mayor on March 11 balked at closing down Broadway and said he fully intended on having the St Patricks parade. Cuomo on Feb 27th compared it to the flu and said it wasn't a threat via tweet.

In early April when it became clear that the nursing homes in New York were being ravaged. They made no effort to move Seniors out of there. They just let them stew in the virus and infect anyone who dared walk into those petri dishes from hell. Why didn't they use the ship and other temporary facilities to get them out of the nursing homes, so that they could fumigated? Nope. He just would spend 2 hours every morning crying but Trump, Trump, Trump.

Another major factor of infection and death was public transpo. Until this week, they were being "sanitized" every 3 days. And finally this week, they are sanitizing every day for 4 hours. Why did this not happen 6 weeks ago???? How many hundreds if not thousands of people died just because of that?

The leadership of New York has not only failed their state but they have failed the whole country with their ineptness. They are up to their necks in blood.
No they don’t. Do you get your news from bullshit Facebook memes? As part of the stimulus Medicare increased reimbursement for covid patients by 20% and agreed to cover uninsured patients. Do you really think that 20% is leading hospitals to commit widespread fraud?
$39,000 if they die. $11,000 if they get on a vent and live. Pretty common knowledge by now.
I LOVE that you’re making an unintentional case against the for profit medical system.
The government interfering in the market and creating perverse outcomes is a failing of the free market for profit system? OK!
Please name one industry where the government has absolutely zero interference...

So the government's interference justifies further interference? Sounds like you've got it all figured out tommy.

ThomasFremont

We will hit 72,000 deaths by Wednesday. How many more weeks would you have had them forecasting 72,000 dead by August 4?
Why lie? CDC says >38,000 as of today
no they don't
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm

They do, through 5/2, Table 1. Doesn’t mean it’s the correct number, which is the point.
Those are the NCHS numbers which are based on death certificates (hence they lag by multiple weeks).

Here are the CDC numbers
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/cases-in-us.html

TOTAL DEATHS
67,456
1,719 New Deaths*
Now do how many are presumed covid deaths. In New York, almost every death is classified covid 19. The numbers are cooked, Birx even admitted it.

So let's break down the fear here. Of all of the 70,000 deaths, 60% of them are in a hundred mile radius, 3,000 miles away from the West Coast. As for the rest of the country about half of the deaths originate in nursing homes. Antibody tests performed around the country and world, however flawed, have been pretty consistent that about 4% of the population has it or has had it. So considering that, we are looking at a death rate of .5% of those infected here in Merica.

The virus is dangerous in the heavily populated areas around New York and to those over 80 elsewhere. To the rest of the country and age groups, it's the flu.

The "experts" know that a vaccine isn't going to happen anytime soon and they know there are 10 times the people exposed than what has had a positive test. The "experts" have also said that the Swede Strategy was the way to go. But the unholy trinity of the Western shore continues to lie about using science as their guide to reopening, when it's clear it's about control and politics.
- "In New York, almost every death is classified covid 19." This of course is completely false. In actuality there are fewer covid deaths reported in New York than what are considered deaths above normal for the last 5 years.

As to the rest of your post I actually agree with most of what you posted. The death rate still seems to be somewhere between .65 and .8 heavily concentrated among the olds. Isolate the vulnerable and let the rest of us start opening things up because we can't continue this until a vaccine is widely available (if a vaccine is ever widely available). Multiple countries are getting at least elementary school kids back to school which makes a whole lotta sense considering a total of 8 people under the age of 18 have died from this thing in the US.
Anywhere from 25-30,000 less people are dying each week than average, in our country since the lock down. But if you die in a Hospital in New York, there's an overwhelming chance that the COD will be COV19.
Again - more bullshit. On average about 50-55k people die in the US each week. So you think the death rate has fallen by 50-60% since March...lol? I realize why you think that as again you are relying on NCHS data which lags by as much as 8 weeks but your claim is false.

Looking strictly at NYC from March 8th to April 11th there were approximately 11,900 deaths per week above average. Of those deaths above average only 85% of them were directly linked to Covid. Based upon that it's possible (likely?) that the covid deaths in NYC are actually being undercounted at least slightly.

We will hit 72,000 deaths by Wednesday. How many more weeks would you have had them forecasting 72,000 dead by August 4?
Why lie? CDC says >38,000 as of today
no they don't
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm

They do, through 5/2, Table 1. Doesn’t mean it’s the correct number, which is the point.
Those are the NCHS numbers which are based on death certificates (hence they lag by multiple weeks).

Here are the CDC numbers
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/cases-in-us.html

TOTAL DEATHS
67,456
1,719 New Deaths*
Now do how many are presumed covid deaths. In New York, almost every death is classified covid 19. The numbers are cooked, Birx even admitted it.

So let's break down the fear here. Of all of the 70,000 deaths, 60% of them are in a hundred mile radius, 3,000 miles away from the West Coast. As for the rest of the country about half of the deaths originate in nursing homes. Antibody tests performed around the country and world, however flawed, have been pretty consistent that about 4% of the population has it or has had it. So considering that, we are looking at a death rate of .5% of those infected here in Merica.

The virus is dangerous in the heavily populated areas around New York and to those over 80 elsewhere. To the rest of the country and age groups, it's the flu.

The "experts" know that a vaccine isn't going to happen anytime soon and they know there are 10 times the people exposed than what has had a positive test. The "experts" have also said that the Swede Strategy was the way to go. But the unholy trinity of the Western shore continues to lie about using science as their guide to reopening, when it's clear it's about control and politics.
- "In New York, almost every death is classified covid 19." This of course is completely false. In actuality there are fewer covid deaths reported in New York than what are considered deaths above normal for the last 5 years.

As to the rest of your post I actually agree with most of what you posted. The death rate still seems to be somewhere between .65 and .8 heavily concentrated among the olds. Isolate the vulnerable and let the rest of us start opening things up because we can't continue this until a vaccine is widely available (if a vaccine is ever widely available). Multiple countries are getting at least elementary school kids back to school which makes a whole lotta sense considering a total of 8 people under the age of 18 have died from this thing in the US.
Anywhere from 25-30,000 less people are dying each week than average, in our country since the lock down. But if you die in a Hospital in New York, there's an overwhelming chance that the COD will be COV19.
Again - more bullshit. On average about 50-55k people die in the US each week. So you think the death rate has fallen by 50-60% since March...lol? I realize why you think that as again you are relying on NCHS data which lags by as much as 8 weeks but your claim is false.

Looking strictly at NYC from March 8th to April 11th there were approximately 11,900 deaths per week above average. Of those deaths above average only 85% of them were directly linked to Covid. Based upon that it's possible (likely?) that the covid deaths in NYC are actually being undercounted at least slightly.

It's been reported from doctors, hospital admins, funeral directors, Dr Birx, etc, etc. that New York deaths and deaths all over the country are being rubber stamped as covid without ever being tested. Hospitals are going broke and they get 4 times the Federal dollars for a covid death than not and the Government is encouraging it

And I call bullshit on 12,000 more people than average died per week in New York that month. That would mean that 40% of Americans that died, did so in New York. By your numbers, not mine.

Of course Cuomo just pulled out another 1400 nursing home deaths today out of nowhere. If you consider that fraud as evidence, as why it's under reported, I can't help you.

And Man if we are looking for boogeymen. How can we not have Dibliasio and Cuomo at the head of the charts. The mayor on March 11 balked at closing down Broadway and said he fully intended on having the St Patricks parade. Cuomo on Feb 27th compared it to the flu and said it wasn't a threat via tweet.

In early April when it became clear that the nursing homes in New York were being ravaged. They made no effort to move Seniors out of there. They just let them stew in the virus and infect anyone who dared walk into those petri dishes from hell. Why didn't they use the ship and other temporary facilities to get them out of the nursing homes, so that they could fumigated? Nope. He just would spend 2 hours every morning crying but Trump, Trump, Trump.

Another major factor of infection and death was public transpo. Until this week, they were being "sanitized" every 3 days. And finally this week, they are sanitizing every day for 4 hours. Why did this not happen 6 weeks ago???? How many hundreds if not thousands of people died just because of that?

The leadership of New York has not only failed their state but they have failed the whole country with their ineptness. They are up to their necks in blood.
No they don’t. Do you get your news from bullshit Facebook memes? As part of the stimulus Medicare increased reimbursement for covid patients by 20% and agreed to cover uninsured patients. Do you really think that 20% is leading hospitals to commit widespread fraud?
$39,000 if they die. $11,000 if they get on a vent and live. Pretty common knowledge by now.
I LOVE that you’re making an unintentional case against the for profit medical system.
The government interfering in the market and creating perverse outcomes is a failing of the free market for profit system? OK!
Please name one industry where the government has absolutely zero interference...

So the government's interference justifies further interference? Sounds like you've got it all figured out tommy.

That’s a backpedal. You play DB?

UW_Doog_Bot

We will hit 72,000 deaths by Wednesday. How many more weeks would you have had them forecasting 72,000 dead by August 4?
Why lie? CDC says >38,000 as of today
no they don't
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm

They do, through 5/2, Table 1. Doesn’t mean it’s the correct number, which is the point.
Those are the NCHS numbers which are based on death certificates (hence they lag by multiple weeks).

Here are the CDC numbers
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/cases-in-us.html

TOTAL DEATHS
67,456
1,719 New Deaths*
Now do how many are presumed covid deaths. In New York, almost every death is classified covid 19. The numbers are cooked, Birx even admitted it.

So let's break down the fear here. Of all of the 70,000 deaths, 60% of them are in a hundred mile radius, 3,000 miles away from the West Coast. As for the rest of the country about half of the deaths originate in nursing homes. Antibody tests performed around the country and world, however flawed, have been pretty consistent that about 4% of the population has it or has had it. So considering that, we are looking at a death rate of .5% of those infected here in Merica.

The virus is dangerous in the heavily populated areas around New York and to those over 80 elsewhere. To the rest of the country and age groups, it's the flu.

The "experts" know that a vaccine isn't going to happen anytime soon and they know there are 10 times the people exposed than what has had a positive test. The "experts" have also said that the Swede Strategy was the way to go. But the unholy trinity of the Western shore continues to lie about using science as their guide to reopening, when it's clear it's about control and politics.
- "In New York, almost every death is classified covid 19." This of course is completely false. In actuality there are fewer covid deaths reported in New York than what are considered deaths above normal for the last 5 years.

As to the rest of your post I actually agree with most of what you posted. The death rate still seems to be somewhere between .65 and .8 heavily concentrated among the olds. Isolate the vulnerable and let the rest of us start opening things up because we can't continue this until a vaccine is widely available (if a vaccine is ever widely available). Multiple countries are getting at least elementary school kids back to school which makes a whole lotta sense considering a total of 8 people under the age of 18 have died from this thing in the US.
Anywhere from 25-30,000 less people are dying each week than average, in our country since the lock down. But if you die in a Hospital in New York, there's an overwhelming chance that the COD will be COV19.
Again - more bullshit. On average about 50-55k people die in the US each week. So you think the death rate has fallen by 50-60% since March...lol? I realize why you think that as again you are relying on NCHS data which lags by as much as 8 weeks but your claim is false.

Looking strictly at NYC from March 8th to April 11th there were approximately 11,900 deaths per week above average. Of those deaths above average only 85% of them were directly linked to Covid. Based upon that it's possible (likely?) that the covid deaths in NYC are actually being undercounted at least slightly.

We will hit 72,000 deaths by Wednesday. How many more weeks would you have had them forecasting 72,000 dead by August 4?
Why lie? CDC says >38,000 as of today
no they don't
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm

They do, through 5/2, Table 1. Doesn’t mean it’s the correct number, which is the point.
Those are the NCHS numbers which are based on death certificates (hence they lag by multiple weeks).

Here are the CDC numbers
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/cases-in-us.html

TOTAL DEATHS
67,456
1,719 New Deaths*
Now do how many are presumed covid deaths. In New York, almost every death is classified covid 19. The numbers are cooked, Birx even admitted it.

So let's break down the fear here. Of all of the 70,000 deaths, 60% of them are in a hundred mile radius, 3,000 miles away from the West Coast. As for the rest of the country about half of the deaths originate in nursing homes. Antibody tests performed around the country and world, however flawed, have been pretty consistent that about 4% of the population has it or has had it. So considering that, we are looking at a death rate of .5% of those infected here in Merica.

The virus is dangerous in the heavily populated areas around New York and to those over 80 elsewhere. To the rest of the country and age groups, it's the flu.

The "experts" know that a vaccine isn't going to happen anytime soon and they know there are 10 times the people exposed than what has had a positive test. The "experts" have also said that the Swede Strategy was the way to go. But the unholy trinity of the Western shore continues to lie about using science as their guide to reopening, when it's clear it's about control and politics.
- "In New York, almost every death is classified covid 19." This of course is completely false. In actuality there are fewer covid deaths reported in New York than what are considered deaths above normal for the last 5 years.

As to the rest of your post I actually agree with most of what you posted. The death rate still seems to be somewhere between .65 and .8 heavily concentrated among the olds. Isolate the vulnerable and let the rest of us start opening things up because we can't continue this until a vaccine is widely available (if a vaccine is ever widely available). Multiple countries are getting at least elementary school kids back to school which makes a whole lotta sense considering a total of 8 people under the age of 18 have died from this thing in the US.
Anywhere from 25-30,000 less people are dying each week than average, in our country since the lock down. But if you die in a Hospital in New York, there's an overwhelming chance that the COD will be COV19.
Again - more bullshit. On average about 50-55k people die in the US each week. So you think the death rate has fallen by 50-60% since March...lol? I realize why you think that as again you are relying on NCHS data which lags by as much as 8 weeks but your claim is false.

Looking strictly at NYC from March 8th to April 11th there were approximately 11,900 deaths per week above average. Of those deaths above average only 85% of them were directly linked to Covid. Based upon that it's possible (likely?) that the covid deaths in NYC are actually being undercounted at least slightly.

It's been reported from doctors, hospital admins, funeral directors, Dr Birx, etc, etc. that New York deaths and deaths all over the country are being rubber stamped as covid without ever being tested. Hospitals are going broke and they get 4 times the Federal dollars for a covid death than not and the Government is encouraging it

And I call bullshit on 12,000 more people than average died per week in New York that month. That would mean that 40% of Americans that died, did so in New York. By your numbers, not mine.

Of course Cuomo just pulled out another 1400 nursing home deaths today out of nowhere. If you consider that fraud as evidence, as why it's under reported, I can't help you.

And Man if we are looking for boogeymen. How can we not have Dibliasio and Cuomo at the head of the charts. The mayor on March 11 balked at closing down Broadway and said he fully intended on having the St Patricks parade. Cuomo on Feb 27th compared it to the flu and said it wasn't a threat via tweet.

In early April when it became clear that the nursing homes in New York were being ravaged. They made no effort to move Seniors out of there. They just let them stew in the virus and infect anyone who dared walk into those petri dishes from hell. Why didn't they use the ship and other temporary facilities to get them out of the nursing homes, so that they could fumigated? Nope. He just would spend 2 hours every morning crying but Trump, Trump, Trump.

Another major factor of infection and death was public transpo. Until this week, they were being "sanitized" every 3 days. And finally this week, they are sanitizing every day for 4 hours. Why did this not happen 6 weeks ago???? How many hundreds if not thousands of people died just because of that?

The leadership of New York has not only failed their state but they have failed the whole country with their ineptness. They are up to their necks in blood.
No they don’t. Do you get your news from bullshit Facebook memes? As part of the stimulus Medicare increased reimbursement for covid patients by 20% and agreed to cover uninsured patients. Do you really think that 20% is leading hospitals to commit widespread fraud?
$39,000 if they die. $11,000 if they get on a vent and live. Pretty common knowledge by now.
I LOVE that you’re making an unintentional case against the for profit medical system.
The government interfering in the market and creating perverse outcomes is a failing of the free market for profit system? OK!
Please name one industry where the government has absolutely zero interference...

So the government's interference justifies further interference? Sounds like you've got it all figured out tommy.
That’s a backpedal. You play DB?

Spastic false dilemma. Do you even know where you are?

Sledog

We will hit 72,000 deaths by Wednesday. How many more weeks would you have had them forecasting 72,000 dead by August 4?
Why lie? CDC says >38,000 as of today
no they don't
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm

They do, through 5/2, Table 1. Doesn’t mean it’s the correct number, which is the point.
Those are the NCHS numbers which are based on death certificates (hence they lag by multiple weeks).

Here are the CDC numbers
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/cases-in-us.html

TOTAL DEATHS
67,456
1,719 New Deaths*
Now do how many are presumed covid deaths. In New York, almost every death is classified covid 19. The numbers are cooked, Birx even admitted it.

So let's break down the fear here. Of all of the 70,000 deaths, 60% of them are in a hundred mile radius, 3,000 miles away from the West Coast. As for the rest of the country about half of the deaths originate in nursing homes. Antibody tests performed around the country and world, however flawed, have been pretty consistent that about 4% of the population has it or has had it. So considering that, we are looking at a death rate of .5% of those infected here in Merica.

The virus is dangerous in the heavily populated areas around New York and to those over 80 elsewhere. To the rest of the country and age groups, it's the flu.

The "experts" know that a vaccine isn't going to happen anytime soon and they know there are 10 times the people exposed than what has had a positive test. The "experts" have also said that the Swede Strategy was the way to go. But the unholy trinity of the Western shore continues to lie about using science as their guide to reopening, when it's clear it's about control and politics.
- "In New York, almost every death is classified covid 19." This of course is completely false. In actuality there are fewer covid deaths reported in New York than what are considered deaths above normal for the last 5 years.

As to the rest of your post I actually agree with most of what you posted. The death rate still seems to be somewhere between .65 and .8 heavily concentrated among the olds. Isolate the vulnerable and let the rest of us start opening things up because we can't continue this until a vaccine is widely available (if a vaccine is ever widely available). Multiple countries are getting at least elementary school kids back to school which makes a whole lotta sense considering a total of 8 people under the age of 18 have died from this thing in the US.
Anywhere from 25-30,000 less people are dying each week than average, in our country since the lock down. But if you die in a Hospital in New York, there's an overwhelming chance that the COD will be COV19.
Again - more bullshit. On average about 50-55k people die in the US each week. So you think the death rate has fallen by 50-60% since March...lol? I realize why you think that as again you are relying on NCHS data which lags by as much as 8 weeks but your claim is false.

Looking strictly at NYC from March 8th to April 11th there were approximately 11,900 deaths per week above average. Of those deaths above average only 85% of them were directly linked to Covid. Based upon that it's possible (likely?) that the covid deaths in NYC are actually being undercounted at least slightly.

We will hit 72,000 deaths by Wednesday. How many more weeks would you have had them forecasting 72,000 dead by August 4?
Why lie? CDC says >38,000 as of today
no they don't
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm

They do, through 5/2, Table 1. Doesn’t mean it’s the correct number, which is the point.
Those are the NCHS numbers which are based on death certificates (hence they lag by multiple weeks).

Here are the CDC numbers
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/cases-in-us.html

TOTAL DEATHS
67,456
1,719 New Deaths*
Now do how many are presumed covid deaths. In New York, almost every death is classified covid 19. The numbers are cooked, Birx even admitted it.

So let's break down the fear here. Of all of the 70,000 deaths, 60% of them are in a hundred mile radius, 3,000 miles away from the West Coast. As for the rest of the country about half of the deaths originate in nursing homes. Antibody tests performed around the country and world, however flawed, have been pretty consistent that about 4% of the population has it or has had it. So considering that, we are looking at a death rate of .5% of those infected here in Merica.

The virus is dangerous in the heavily populated areas around New York and to those over 80 elsewhere. To the rest of the country and age groups, it's the flu.

The "experts" know that a vaccine isn't going to happen anytime soon and they know there are 10 times the people exposed than what has had a positive test. The "experts" have also said that the Swede Strategy was the way to go. But the unholy trinity of the Western shore continues to lie about using science as their guide to reopening, when it's clear it's about control and politics.
- "In New York, almost every death is classified covid 19." This of course is completely false. In actuality there are fewer covid deaths reported in New York than what are considered deaths above normal for the last 5 years.

As to the rest of your post I actually agree with most of what you posted. The death rate still seems to be somewhere between .65 and .8 heavily concentrated among the olds. Isolate the vulnerable and let the rest of us start opening things up because we can't continue this until a vaccine is widely available (if a vaccine is ever widely available). Multiple countries are getting at least elementary school kids back to school which makes a whole lotta sense considering a total of 8 people under the age of 18 have died from this thing in the US.
Anywhere from 25-30,000 less people are dying each week than average, in our country since the lock down. But if you die in a Hospital in New York, there's an overwhelming chance that the COD will be COV19.
Again - more bullshit. On average about 50-55k people die in the US each week. So you think the death rate has fallen by 50-60% since March...lol? I realize why you think that as again you are relying on NCHS data which lags by as much as 8 weeks but your claim is false.

Looking strictly at NYC from March 8th to April 11th there were approximately 11,900 deaths per week above average. Of those deaths above average only 85% of them were directly linked to Covid. Based upon that it's possible (likely?) that the covid deaths in NYC are actually being undercounted at least slightly.

It's been reported from doctors, hospital admins, funeral directors, Dr Birx, etc, etc. that New York deaths and deaths all over the country are being rubber stamped as covid without ever being tested. Hospitals are going broke and they get 4 times the Federal dollars for a covid death than not and the Government is encouraging it

And I call bullshit on 12,000 more people than average died per week in New York that month. That would mean that 40% of Americans that died, did so in New York. By your numbers, not mine.

Of course Cuomo just pulled out another 1400 nursing home deaths today out of nowhere. If you consider that fraud as evidence, as why it's under reported, I can't help you.

And Man if we are looking for boogeymen. How can we not have Dibliasio and Cuomo at the head of the charts. The mayor on March 11 balked at closing down Broadway and said he fully intended on having the St Patricks parade. Cuomo on Feb 27th compared it to the flu and said it wasn't a threat via tweet.

In early April when it became clear that the nursing homes in New York were being ravaged. They made no effort to move Seniors out of there. They just let them stew in the virus and infect anyone who dared walk into those petri dishes from hell. Why didn't they use the ship and other temporary facilities to get them out of the nursing homes, so that they could fumigated? Nope. He just would spend 2 hours every morning crying but Trump, Trump, Trump.

Another major factor of infection and death was public transpo. Until this week, they were being "sanitized" every 3 days. And finally this week, they are sanitizing every day for 4 hours. Why did this not happen 6 weeks ago???? How many hundreds if not thousands of people died just because of that?

The leadership of New York has not only failed their state but they have failed the whole country with their ineptness. They are up to their necks in blood.
No they don’t. Do you get your news from bullshit Facebook memes? As part of the stimulus Medicare increased reimbursement for covid patients by 20% and agreed to cover uninsured patients. Do you really think that 20% is leading hospitals to commit widespread fraud?
$39,000 if they die. $11,000 if they get on a vent and live. Pretty common knowledge by now.
I LOVE that you’re making an unintentional case against the for profit medical system.
The government interfering in the market and creating perverse outcomes is a failing of the free market for profit system? OK!
Please name one industry where the government has absolutely zero interference...

So the government's interference justifies further interference? Sounds like you've got it all figured out tommy.
That’s a backpedal. You play DB?

Pretty sure Tommy's a wide receiver! Definitely not a tight end.