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  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    edited May 2020
    Yes, CDC says total deaths are 57k. Covid deaths are 38k

    Table 1. Deaths involving coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19), pneumonia, and influenza reported to NCHS by week ending date, United States. Week ending 2/1/2020 to 5/2/2020.*

    https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm


    Again, I ask, why do you lie when the numbers are so easily attainable?
  • Bendintheriver
    Bendintheriver Member Posts: 7,229 Standard Supporter
    doogie said:

    Yes, CDC says total deaths are 57k. Covid deaths are 38k

    Table 1. Deaths involving coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19), pneumonia, and influenza reported to NCHS by week ending date, United States. Week ending 2/1/2020 to 5/2/2020.*

    https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm


    Again, I ask, why do you lie when the numbers are so easily attainable?

    Because that is what he does. Its the only way he can FEEL GOOD when he has no facts.
  • GDS
    GDS Member Posts: 1,470
    doogie said:

    Yes, CDC says total deaths are 57k. Covid deaths are 38k

    Table 1. Deaths involving coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19), pneumonia, and influenza reported to NCHS by week ending date, United States. Week ending 2/1/2020 to 5/2/2020.*

    https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm


    Again, I ask, why do you lie when the numbers are so easily attainable?

    Hell it's even in the title...as explained the NCHS statistics are based on death certs hence why they lag by multiple weeks and no one relies on them in real time. Has reading always been this hard for you?

    Cases in the U.S.
    Last updated on May 4, 2020

    TOTAL CASES
    1,152,372
    29,763 New Cases*

    TOTAL DEATHS
    67,456
    1,719 New Deaths*

    https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/cases-in-us.html
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 116,041 Founders Club
    Scotty working hard for China every day
  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    Official Covid deaths vs Covid “related” deaths.

    Got it
  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    Why does Everyone say “Covid is NOT flu”

    “ Covid is Not pneumonia”

    Yet here we see some CDC bureaucratic dolt deliberately sensationalizing deaths?
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,919
    GDS said:

    GDS said:

    doogie said:

    HHusky said:

    We will hit 72,000 deaths by Wednesday. How many more weeks would you have had them forecasting 72,000 dead by August 4?

    Why lie? CDC says >38,000 as of today
    no they don't
    https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm

    They do, through 5/2, Table 1. Doesn’t mean it’s the correct number, which is the point.
    Those are the NCHS numbers which are based on death certificates (hence they lag by multiple weeks).

    Here are the CDC numbers
    https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/cases-in-us.html

    TOTAL DEATHS
    67,456
    1,719 New Deaths*
    Now do how many are presumed covid deaths. In New York, almost every death is classified covid 19. The numbers are cooked, Birx even admitted it.

    So let's break down the fear here. Of all of the 70,000 deaths, 60% of them are in a hundred mile radius, 3,000 miles away from the West Coast. As for the rest of the country about half of the deaths originate in nursing homes. Antibody tests performed around the country and world, however flawed, have been pretty consistent that about 4% of the population has it or has had it. So considering that, we are looking at a death rate of .5% of those infected here in Merica.

    The virus is dangerous in the heavily populated areas around New York and to those over 80 elsewhere. To the rest of the country and age groups, it's the flu.

    The "experts" know that a vaccine isn't going to happen anytime soon and they know there are 10 times the people exposed than what has had a positive test. The "experts" have also said that the Swede Strategy was the way to go. But the unholy trinity of the Western shore continues to lie about using science as their guide to reopening, when it's clear it's about control and politics.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 24,527
    salemcoog said:

    GDS said:

    GDS said:

    doogie said:

    HHusky said:

    We will hit 72,000 deaths by Wednesday. How many more weeks would you have had them forecasting 72,000 dead by August 4?

    Why lie? CDC says >38,000 as of today
    no they don't
    https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm

    They do, through 5/2, Table 1. Doesn’t mean it’s the correct number, which is the point.
    Those are the NCHS numbers which are based on death certificates (hence they lag by multiple weeks).

    Here are the CDC numbers
    https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/cases-in-us.html

    TOTAL DEATHS
    67,456
    1,719 New Deaths*
    Now do how many are presumed covid deaths. In New York, almost every death is classified covid 19. The numbers are cooked, Birx even admitted it.

    So let's break down the fear here. Of all of the 70,000 deaths, 60% of them are in a hundred mile radius, 3,000 miles away from the West Coast. As for the rest of the country about half of the deaths originate in nursing homes. Antibody tests performed around the country and world, however flawed, have been pretty consistent that about 4% of the population has it or has had it. So considering that, we are looking at a death rate of .5% of those infected here in Merica.

    The virus is dangerous in the heavily populated areas around New York and to those over 80 elsewhere. To the rest of the country and age groups, it's the flu.

    The "experts" know that a vaccine isn't going to happen anytime soon and they know there are 10 times the people exposed than what has had a positive test. The "experts" have also said that the Swede Strategy was the way to go. But the unholy trinity of the Western shore continues to lie about using science as their guide to reopening, when it's clear it's about control and politics.
    More grist for your conspiracy mill: https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/health-news/a-mutant-coronavirus-has-emerged-even-more-contagious-than-the-original-study-says/ar-BB13CHNP?ocid=spartandhp
  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
  • GDS
    GDS Member Posts: 1,470
    salemcoog said:

    GDS said:

    GDS said:

    doogie said:

    HHusky said:

    We will hit 72,000 deaths by Wednesday. How many more weeks would you have had them forecasting 72,000 dead by August 4?

    Why lie? CDC says >38,000 as of today
    no they don't
    https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm

    They do, through 5/2, Table 1. Doesn’t mean it’s the correct number, which is the point.
    Those are the NCHS numbers which are based on death certificates (hence they lag by multiple weeks).

    Here are the CDC numbers
    https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/cases-in-us.html

    TOTAL DEATHS
    67,456
    1,719 New Deaths*
    Now do how many are presumed covid deaths. In New York, almost every death is classified covid 19. The numbers are cooked, Birx even admitted it.

    So let's break down the fear here. Of all of the 70,000 deaths, 60% of them are in a hundred mile radius, 3,000 miles away from the West Coast. As for the rest of the country about half of the deaths originate in nursing homes. Antibody tests performed around the country and world, however flawed, have been pretty consistent that about 4% of the population has it or has had it. So considering that, we are looking at a death rate of .5% of those infected here in Merica.

    The virus is dangerous in the heavily populated areas around New York and to those over 80 elsewhere. To the rest of the country and age groups, it's the flu.

    The "experts" know that a vaccine isn't going to happen anytime soon and they know there are 10 times the people exposed than what has had a positive test. The "experts" have also said that the Swede Strategy was the way to go. But the unholy trinity of the Western shore continues to lie about using science as their guide to reopening, when it's clear it's about control and politics.
    - "In New York, almost every death is classified covid 19." This of course is completely false. In actuality there are fewer covid deaths reported in New York than what are considered deaths above normal for the last 5 years.

    As to the rest of your post I actually agree with most of what you posted. The death rate still seems to be somewhere between .65 and .8 heavily concentrated among the olds. Isolate the vulnerable and let the rest of us start opening things up because we can't continue this until a vaccine is widely available (if a vaccine is ever widely available). Multiple countries are getting at least elementary school kids back to school which makes a whole lotta sense considering a total of 8 people under the age of 18 have died from this thing in the US.