WAR! with China. No other way forward?
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https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/chinese-report-warns-potential-war-us-over-coronavirus-backlash
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This is probably going to happen anyway.
May as well do it now. I mean we have no Sports on TV. We will have to live without our smartphones, at least those that have the Huawei shit inside. But as long as it's televised, let's get this over with.
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Eh, don’t think there will ever be anything besides maybe a proxy war in Korea or somewhere in Africa. Too much dependency on both sides.
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We are already in a proxy war with them. Unrestricted warfare.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHgqPaqUt80 -
Will the TV stations give daily dead counts? for both sides of course
112,000 to 75,000 bottom of the first -
It won't be a conventional war. We are already in a war with them. They used a virus. We are going to use the power of finance and gold reserves and technology. The Hong Kong riots didn't just stop because of the VID. There's still crazy unrest in China.
But but mean orange man - and where is Hunter Biden these days?
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Conventional warfare is more fun - helps industry more.
Too bad we stopped developing the neutron bomb, better for the winners you don't have to rebuild -
This will be fought as an economic war. If the US provides companies incentives to move manufacturing to other countries (taiwan, singapore, philippines , indonesia, vietnam, thailand, poorer African countries, etc.) China would implode. This can only be done in the long term, since the US is still dependent on Chinese imports. But say in 5-10 years, if the US is able to transfer 50-60% of their manufacturing away from China, the Chinese economy would die.
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Kyle Bass videos are great. China is teetering and, like it or not, Trump (Kudlow, et. al.) would have stepped on their throat for the knockout blow.PandaOrangeChiknDuck said:This will be fought as an economic war. If the US provides companies incentives to move manufacturing to other countries (taiwan, singapore, philippines , indonesia, vietnam, thailand, poorer African countries, etc.) China would implode. This can only be done in the long term, since the US is still dependent on Chinese imports. But say in 5-10 years, if the US is able to transfer 50-60% of their manufacturing away from China, the Chinese economy would die.
China underestimated just how fast the supply chain is going to get re-trenched to the N. American continent and 'friendlies' in SE Asia. For all the economic growth and prosperity enjoyed in China the last decade, it's gone, just gone without greenbacks. They are fucked.
Yet somehow Hunter Biden's Dad is the nominee for the opposition party and he acts like China is his BFF.....
Purely coincidental.
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Thanks for that video UDB. I learned a lot in that 25 minutes.UW_Doog_Bot said:We are already in a proxy war with them. Unrestricted warfare.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHgqPaqUt80 -
I like to give Trump credit for winning some imaginary economic war while at the same time acknowledging that China unleashed a virus that has already killed 70,000 Americans (and counting) AND has killed the US economy. Doesn’t sound like winning tbh.
Wish you guys would root for America for a change. -
People you support killed the economy. And you cheered them on.ThomasFremont said:I like to give Trump credit for winning some imaginary economic war while at the same time acknowledging that China unleashed a virus that has already killed 70,000 Americans (and counting) AND has killed the US economy. Doesn’t sound like winning tbh.
Wish you guys would root for America for a change. -
70,000? Tommy, where are you getting this number because CDC website says 38,575 US Covid deaths as of todayThomasFremont said:I like to give Trump credit for winning some imaginary economic war while at the same time acknowledging that China unleashed a virus that has already killed 70,000 Americans (and counting) AND has killed the US economy. Doesn’t sound like winning tbh.
Wish you guys would root for America for a change.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm -
Probably sitting on the Board of Kurdistan's National Oil Council.PurpleThrobber said:It won't be a conventional war. We are already in a war with them. They used a virus. We are going to use the power of finance and gold reserves and technology. The Hong Kong riots didn't just stop because of the VID. There's still crazy unrest in China.
But but mean orange man - and where is Hunter Biden these days? -
There's plenty of shit to give Trump but he was definitely FIRST regarding China.ThomasFremont said:I like to give Trump credit for winning some imaginary economic war while at the same time acknowledging that China unleashed a virus that has already killed 70,000 Americans (and counting) AND has killed the US economy. Doesn’t sound like winning tbh.
Wish you guys would root for America for a change.
Even more so because our establishment was and still is in bed with the CCP.
"These aren't bad people." -
Excuse me? Trump was FIRST??? Rewind the tape, my dude. We’ve been discussing China as a threat since the days when Trump was just a reality TV star without a drop of political juice (beyond what he donated to the Clinton family).UW_Doog_Bot said:
There's plenty of shit to give Trump but he was definitely FIRST regarding China.ThomasFremont said:I like to give Trump credit for winning some imaginary economic war while at the same time acknowledging that China unleashed a virus that has already killed 70,000 Americans (and counting) AND has killed the US economy. Doesn’t sound like winning tbh.
Wish you guys would root for America for a change.
Even more so because our establishment was and still is in bed with the CCP.
"These aren't bad people." -
People I support? That’s like blaming me for Chris Petersen’s loss in the Rose Bowl.RaceBannon said:
People you support killed the economy. And you cheered them on.ThomasFremont said:I like to give Trump credit for winning some imaginary economic war while at the same time acknowledging that China unleashed a virus that has already killed 70,000 Americans (and counting) AND has killed the US economy. Doesn’t sound like winning tbh.
Wish you guys would root for America for a change. -
Glad I wasn’t the only one rooting for the buckeyesThomasFremont said:
People I support? That’s like blaming me for Chris Petersen’s loss in the Rose Bowl.RaceBannon said:
People you support killed the economy. And you cheered them on.ThomasFremont said:I like to give Trump credit for winning some imaginary economic war while at the same time acknowledging that China unleashed a virus that has already killed 70,000 Americans (and counting) AND has killed the US economy. Doesn’t sound like winning tbh.
Wish you guys would root for America for a change. -
Were we discussing it in the context of Obama giving up the S China Sea?ThomasFremont said:
People I support? That’s like blaming me for Chris Petersen’s loss in the Rose Bowl.RaceBannon said:
People you support killed the economy. And you cheered them on.ThomasFremont said:I like to give Trump credit for winning some imaginary economic war while at the same time acknowledging that China unleashed a virus that has already killed 70,000 Americans (and counting) AND has killed the US economy. Doesn’t sound like winning tbh.
Wish you guys would root for America for a change. -
Yup. The Left is great at discussing things to death, usually with no favorable outcome, nor any progress besides kicking the can down the road.ThomasFremont said:
Excuse me? Trump was FIRST??? Rewind the tape, my dude. We’ve been discussing China as a threat since the days when Trump was just a reality TV star without a drop of political juice (beyond what he donated to the Clinton family).UW_Doog_Bot said:
There's plenty of shit to give Trump but he was definitely FIRST regarding China.ThomasFremont said:I like to give Trump credit for winning some imaginary economic war while at the same time acknowledging that China unleashed a virus that has already killed 70,000 Americans (and counting) AND has killed the US economy. Doesn’t sound like winning tbh.
Wish you guys would root for America for a change.
Even more so because our establishment was and still is in bed with the CCP.
"These aren't bad people."
The Left is great at acting out, like melodramatically tearing up a copy of a speech for the news cameras after the speech was already given, seen and heard.
Trump rolled up the TPP deal and shoved it up China's ass before they discussed anything. I like that method better. -
If only there was some sort of trade agreement where the US could lead friendly Asian and American countries to counter the chicoms...PandaOrangeChiknDuck said:This will be fought as an economic war. If the US provides companies incentives to move manufacturing to other countries (taiwan, singapore, philippines , indonesia, vietnam, thailand, poorer African countries, etc.) China would implode. This can only be done in the long term, since the US is still dependent on Chinese imports. But say in 5-10 years, if the US is able to transfer 50-60% of their manufacturing away from China, the Chinese economy would die.
TPP was negotiated to counter the chicoms by surrounding them with a free trade group that included the most robust IP protections ever negotiated in a trade deal. The Chinese celebrated when Trump pulled out. After we left the other countries stripped the IP protections we’d insisted on and ratified it anyway. There continues to be rumblings about China joining the cptpp now that many of the measures we insisted on have been removed. -
I think he meant Trump was the first person to actually do anything about them.ThomasFremont said:
Excuse me? Trump was FIRST??? Rewind the tape, my dude. We’ve been discussing China as a threat since the days when Trump was just a reality TV star without a drop of political juice (beyond what he donated to the Clinton family).UW_Doog_Bot said:
There's plenty of shit to give Trump but he was definitely FIRST regarding China.ThomasFremont said:I like to give Trump credit for winning some imaginary economic war while at the same time acknowledging that China unleashed a virus that has already killed 70,000 Americans (and counting) AND has killed the US economy. Doesn’t sound like winning tbh.
Wish you guys would root for America for a change.
Even more so because our establishment was and still is in bed with the CCP.
"These aren't bad people." -
Anyone who can’t see that we’ve been getting put over the barrel by the Chinese for 2 decades is dreaming. Clinton invited the wolf into the chicken coup and our corporate Elites and government Leadership have been on an economic sugar high ever since. China is not a good trading partner. They are not our ally. They aren’t even our friend. Their end goal is world domination, through economic and information warfare. Undoing the BRI and cutting off their access to greenbacks is an imperative.Swaye said:
I think he meant Trump was the first person to actually do anything about them.ThomasFremont said:
Excuse me? Trump was FIRST??? Rewind the tape, my dude. We’ve been discussing China as a threat since the days when Trump was just a reality TV star without a drop of political juice (beyond what he donated to the Clinton family).UW_Doog_Bot said:
There's plenty of shit to give Trump but he was definitely FIRST regarding China.ThomasFremont said:I like to give Trump credit for winning some imaginary economic war while at the same time acknowledging that China unleashed a virus that has already killed 70,000 Americans (and counting) AND has killed the US economy. Doesn’t sound like winning tbh.
Wish you guys would root for America for a change.
Even more so because our establishment was and still is in bed with the CCP.
"These aren't bad people." -
When Bill Clinton traded missile tech for Chi Com campaign money?ThomasFremont said:
Excuse me? Trump was FIRST??? Rewind the tape, my dude. We’ve been discussing China as a threat since the days when Trump was just a reality TV star without a drop of political juice (beyond what he donated to the Clinton family).UW_Doog_Bot said:
There's plenty of shit to give Trump but he was definitely FIRST regarding China.ThomasFremont said:I like to give Trump credit for winning some imaginary economic war while at the same time acknowledging that China unleashed a virus that has already killed 70,000 Americans (and counting) AND has killed the US economy. Doesn’t sound like winning tbh.
Wish you guys would root for America for a change.
Even more so because our establishment was and still is in bed with the CCP.
"These aren't bad people."
When joe Biden was bought by China?
Discussing as a threat while selling out. Good job -
Once again you show your undying faith and fealty toward corrupt, anti-American international panels of cronies and despots over direct competition.GDS said:
If only there was some sort of trade agreement where the US could lead friendly Asian and American countries to counter the chicoms...PandaOrangeChiknDuck said:This will be fought as an economic war. If the US provides companies incentives to move manufacturing to other countries (taiwan, singapore, philippines , indonesia, vietnam, thailand, poorer African countries, etc.) China would implode. This can only be done in the long term, since the US is still dependent on Chinese imports. But say in 5-10 years, if the US is able to transfer 50-60% of their manufacturing away from China, the Chinese economy would die.
TPP was negotiated to counter the chicoms by surrounding them with a free trade group that included the most robust IP protections ever negotiated in a trade deal. The Chinese celebrated when Trump pulled out. After we left the other countries stripped the IP protections we’d insisted on and ratified it anyway. There continues to be rumblings about China joining the cptpp now that many of the measures we insisted on have been removed.
First a liar, now a pussy sellout. Why am I not surprised?
A liar is a cheater and a cheater is a liar. Enjoy your Walmart junk, Pedophile. -
I never voted for a Clinton, Boomer.RaceBannon said:
When Bill Clinton traded missile tech for Chi Com campaign money?ThomasFremont said:
Excuse me? Trump was FIRST??? Rewind the tape, my dude. We’ve been discussing China as a threat since the days when Trump was just a reality TV star without a drop of political juice (beyond what he donated to the Clinton family).UW_Doog_Bot said:
There's plenty of shit to give Trump but he was definitely FIRST regarding China.ThomasFremont said:I like to give Trump credit for winning some imaginary economic war while at the same time acknowledging that China unleashed a virus that has already killed 70,000 Americans (and counting) AND has killed the US economy. Doesn’t sound like winning tbh.
Wish you guys would root for America for a change.
Even more so because our establishment was and still is in bed with the CCP.
"These aren't bad people."
When joe Biden was bought by China?
Discussing as a threat while selling out. Good job -
That wasn't your pointThomasFremont said:
I never voted for a Clinton, Boomer.RaceBannon said:
When Bill Clinton traded missile tech for Chi Com campaign money?ThomasFremont said:
Excuse me? Trump was FIRST??? Rewind the tape, my dude. We’ve been discussing China as a threat since the days when Trump was just a reality TV star without a drop of political juice (beyond what he donated to the Clinton family).UW_Doog_Bot said:
There's plenty of shit to give Trump but he was definitely FIRST regarding China.ThomasFremont said:I like to give Trump credit for winning some imaginary economic war while at the same time acknowledging that China unleashed a virus that has already killed 70,000 Americans (and counting) AND has killed the US economy. Doesn’t sound like winning tbh.
Wish you guys would root for America for a change.
Even more so because our establishment was and still is in bed with the CCP.
"These aren't bad people."
When joe Biden was bought by China?
Discussing as a threat while selling out. Good job
Do you need help remembering Joe? -
I didn’t vote for him either. Keep making incorrect assumptions, it amuses me.RaceBannon said:
That wasn't your pointThomasFremont said:
I never voted for a Clinton, Boomer.RaceBannon said:
When Bill Clinton traded missile tech for Chi Com campaign money?ThomasFremont said:
Excuse me? Trump was FIRST??? Rewind the tape, my dude. We’ve been discussing China as a threat since the days when Trump was just a reality TV star without a drop of political juice (beyond what he donated to the Clinton family).UW_Doog_Bot said:
There's plenty of shit to give Trump but he was definitely FIRST regarding China.ThomasFremont said:I like to give Trump credit for winning some imaginary economic war while at the same time acknowledging that China unleashed a virus that has already killed 70,000 Americans (and counting) AND has killed the US economy. Doesn’t sound like winning tbh.
Wish you guys would root for America for a change.
Even more so because our establishment was and still is in bed with the CCP.
"These aren't bad people."
When joe Biden was bought by China?
Discussing as a threat while selling out. Good job
Do you need help remembering Joe? -
So there is a sense of humor in there somewhere. Good to know.ThomasFremont said:
I didn’t vote for him either. Keep making incorrect assumptions, it amuses me.RaceBannon said:
That wasn't your pointThomasFremont said:
I never voted for a Clinton, Boomer.RaceBannon said:
When Bill Clinton traded missile tech for Chi Com campaign money?ThomasFremont said:
Excuse me? Trump was FIRST??? Rewind the tape, my dude. We’ve been discussing China as a threat since the days when Trump was just a reality TV star without a drop of political juice (beyond what he donated to the Clinton family).UW_Doog_Bot said:
There's plenty of shit to give Trump but he was definitely FIRST regarding China.ThomasFremont said:I like to give Trump credit for winning some imaginary economic war while at the same time acknowledging that China unleashed a virus that has already killed 70,000 Americans (and counting) AND has killed the US economy. Doesn’t sound like winning tbh.
Wish you guys would root for America for a change.
Even more so because our establishment was and still is in bed with the CCP.
"These aren't bad people."
When joe Biden was bought by China?
Discussing as a threat while selling out. Good job
Do you need help remembering Joe? -
Still wasn't your pointThomasFremont said:
I didn’t vote for him either. Keep making incorrect assumptions, it amuses me.RaceBannon said:
That wasn't your pointThomasFremont said:
I never voted for a Clinton, Boomer.RaceBannon said:
When Bill Clinton traded missile tech for Chi Com campaign money?ThomasFremont said:
Excuse me? Trump was FIRST??? Rewind the tape, my dude. We’ve been discussing China as a threat since the days when Trump was just a reality TV star without a drop of political juice (beyond what he donated to the Clinton family).UW_Doog_Bot said:
There's plenty of shit to give Trump but he was definitely FIRST regarding China.ThomasFremont said:I like to give Trump credit for winning some imaginary economic war while at the same time acknowledging that China unleashed a virus that has already killed 70,000 Americans (and counting) AND has killed the US economy. Doesn’t sound like winning tbh.
Wish you guys would root for America for a change.
Even more so because our establishment was and still is in bed with the CCP.
"These aren't bad people."
When joe Biden was bought by China?
Discussing as a threat while selling out. Good job
Do you need help remembering Joe?
Keep struggling in every thread -
Well then explain this “support” you’ve accused me of. Strike one was Clinton, strike 2 was Joe. Care for a third try?RaceBannon said:
Still wasn't your pointThomasFremont said:
I didn’t vote for him either. Keep making incorrect assumptions, it amuses me.RaceBannon said:
That wasn't your pointThomasFremont said:
I never voted for a Clinton, Boomer.RaceBannon said:
When Bill Clinton traded missile tech for Chi Com campaign money?ThomasFremont said:
Excuse me? Trump was FIRST??? Rewind the tape, my dude. We’ve been discussing China as a threat since the days when Trump was just a reality TV star without a drop of political juice (beyond what he donated to the Clinton family).UW_Doog_Bot said:
There's plenty of shit to give Trump but he was definitely FIRST regarding China.ThomasFremont said:I like to give Trump credit for winning some imaginary economic war while at the same time acknowledging that China unleashed a virus that has already killed 70,000 Americans (and counting) AND has killed the US economy. Doesn’t sound like winning tbh.
Wish you guys would root for America for a change.
Even more so because our establishment was and still is in bed with the CCP.
"These aren't bad people."
When joe Biden was bought by China?
Discussing as a threat while selling out. Good job
Do you need help remembering Joe?
Keep struggling in every thread
