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Hundreds of protesters, some carrying guns, Storm Michigan State Capitol
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Nudging bicyclists was a sport in my industry. Pedestrians too sometimes. Nudge, nudge, wink, wink.salemcoog said:
The homeless bicyclists are the worst around here. On the way home from work last week, one of them was weaving in and out of traffic basically trying to get hit. After I had to evade him the 2nd time, I almost said fuck it and popped him the 3rd time. It's amazing the shit that you can weigh in the balance in microseconds. I haven't had an insurance claim for like 10 years, and if I could get a witness to stop, I'd probably be not at fault anyway. But the real factor that tipped the scales into not popping him was I simply wanted to get home and not wait for the cops and then probably get pissed off and go agro on the guy eventually.creepycoug said:
That I agree with entirely. Thinking about heading down to Olympia and hitting up the armory, aka my father-in-law's gun case, for a little iron. I can see this getting nasty if it goes on for too long. I was at Target the other day and, I shit you not, a guy was running out of the store, almost ran my fucking ass over, being chased by store clerks, stealing from what I could tell basic shit like shampoo and other shit you get from that part of the store.salemcoog said:
Agreed. Showing up all camo'd and open carrying detracts from the message completely and makes everyone that shows up to protest look like a Ruby Ridge loon. But as this shutdown pushes on, I think a lot morecreepycoug said:
I understand all that and share your view about where I choose to spend my free time, and why. And I come back this: showing up to government buildings packing serious weaponry and dressed like you're going to behead somebody in the name of Allah is stupid, boorish, unnecessary and insincere. If your point in being there is to play Leonidas responding to the Persian order to drop their weapons, then yeah, that's the point of the rally. I get that. Otherwise, it's fantasy play for undereducated, underemployed, ineffectual men who have problems with their self-image and their cocks. My feet are taped to the pedals on that view.USMChawk said:
Let me spell it out. I’m talking purely about self defense and not instigating the violence. That said, I don’t differentiate between cop or not, if someone is putting me and mine in immediate deadly peril. If I have the means then I will defend. I have no illusions about not being arrested and prosecuted afterwards. So, knowing this about myself I don’t attend rallies, or protests, or any quasi-Antifa bullshit that increases my chances of having to do something I’d rather not. But, I’m employed, have a pretty good life, and am a handful of years away from an early retirement; I have a lot to lose. A lot of people just got fucked by Inslee and have lost those constraints. That’s all I’m saying.creepycoug said:
And, yes, sue to sort out who illegally did what to whom. It's worked before. If by "hard choice", you mean actually using force? Uh, yeah, again, use the courts instead of shooting people. No brainer.USMChawk said:
If you show up to legally protest, and the governor decides to illegally have the State Patrol remove you, will the State Patrolmen be armed? Will they be constrained or will they go Kent State on you? Yes, one choice is to sue and have your day in court but there is another choice. It’s a hard choice, and definitely a life changer, but the second amendment is there to protect individuals from government overreach.creepycoug said:I've never understood the urge to show up with weapons. Show up with your dick in your hands instead; less likely to have an unfortunate accident.
If by "hard choice" you mean showing up with a gun? My POS neighbor who's afraid to even say hello to me could do that. There's nothing hard about it at all.
Beyond that basic point, a related point of view is that we have a loooooooooooooong way to go before circumstances are such that comparisons to the Continental Army are at all even rational. I know ex-cops like Sleddy like to kick back and talk tuff. And who knows, maybe he's really itching to shoot someone for old time's sake. There are those people. But my philosophy is to treat your firearms like you treat your dick: with respect, and don't pull it out unless you are going to use it.
sane people will start to look at getting a Concealed carry permit.
I'll be attending Oregon's tomorrow but certainly won't be packing or dressed for the duck blind. And to the delight of the masses, I won't be wearing my American flag tank top as it will be cold and rainy.
People are also pretty amped up right now in general. I was turning off 520 onto Montlake the other day taking the wife for a drive. I inched up and, as we've all done, wound up stuck waiting for traffic and partially blocking the cross-walk. My bad. So everyone else just went slightly around me and didn't seem to care, but this dude on a bike got worked the fuck up. So I mouthed "fuck off" back to him, and off I went; but as anyone who's driven on Montlake heading north knows, you are NOT GOING TO MAKE THE LIGHT at the intersection of Montlake and Pacific. Of course, this millenial POS pulls up right next to my window and goes off. I listened again and told him to fuck off, this time out loud with the window down. He then followed me and, against all my rational instincts, I slowed down to let him. Just approaching U Village, I slammed on my brakes and made him hit a curb and slightly crash his bike. Or whatever - he was on the ground. Now he's out of his mind, and calls my wife a name. Again, against all my rational instincts, I got out of the car and did my best pissed off crazy Cuban routine and he and I are making a fucking scene the likes of which I've not been involved for at least 20 years. But I was fucking pissed and so was he. For whatever reason, he kept yapping but walked back and motioned to pick up his bike, which was close enough to a surrender for me (fighting after age 30 is a lose/lose). I felt tuff af though. I could'a taken him. I'm sure.
True story.
I wasn't gonna run him over as He was a good rider and wasn't going to let that happen. He was just trying to get nudged to get some pain killers or what not and I was Oh so close to obliging. -
So true. But sometimes you just gotta go.creepycoug said:
That I agree with entirely. Thinking about heading down to Olympia and hitting up the armory, aka my father-in-law's gun case, for a little iron. I can see this getting nasty if it goes on for too long. I was at Target the other day and, I shit you not, a guy was running out of the store, almost ran my fucking ass over, being chased by store clerks, stealing from what I could tell basic shit like shampoo and other shit you get from that part of the store.salemcoog said:
Agreed. Showing up all camo'd and open carrying detracts from the message completely and makes everyone that shows up to protest look like a Ruby Ridge loon. But as this shutdown pushes on, I think a lot morecreepycoug said:
I understand all that and share your view about where I choose to spend my free time, and why. And I come back this: showing up to government buildings packing serious weaponry and dressed like you're going to behead somebody in the name of Allah is stupid, boorish, unnecessary and insincere. If your point in being there is to play Leonidas responding to the Persian order to drop their weapons, then yeah, that's the point of the rally. I get that. Otherwise, it's fantasy play for undereducated, underemployed, ineffectual men who have problems with their self-image and their cocks. My feet are taped to the pedals on that view.USMChawk said:
Let me spell it out. I’m talking purely about self defense and not instigating the violence. That said, I don’t differentiate between cop or not, if someone is putting me and mine in immediate deadly peril. If I have the means then I will defend. I have no illusions about not being arrested and prosecuted afterwards. So, knowing this about myself I don’t attend rallies, or protests, or any quasi-Antifa bullshit that increases my chances of having to do something I’d rather not. But, I’m employed, have a pretty good life, and am a handful of years away from an early retirement; I have a lot to lose. A lot of people just got fucked by Inslee and have lost those constraints. That’s all I’m saying.creepycoug said:
And, yes, sue to sort out who illegally did what to whom. It's worked before. If by "hard choice", you mean actually using force? Uh, yeah, again, use the courts instead of shooting people. No brainer.USMChawk said:
If you show up to legally protest, and the governor decides to illegally have the State Patrol remove you, will the State Patrolmen be armed? Will they be constrained or will they go Kent State on you? Yes, one choice is to sue and have your day in court but there is another choice. It’s a hard choice, and definitely a life changer, but the second amendment is there to protect individuals from government overreach.creepycoug said:I've never understood the urge to show up with weapons. Show up with your dick in your hands instead; less likely to have an unfortunate accident.
If by "hard choice" you mean showing up with a gun? My POS neighbor who's afraid to even say hello to me could do that. There's nothing hard about it at all.
Beyond that basic point, a related point of view is that we have a loooooooooooooong way to go before circumstances are such that comparisons to the Continental Army are at all even rational. I know ex-cops like Sleddy like to kick back and talk tuff. And who knows, maybe he's really itching to shoot someone for old time's sake. There are those people. But my philosophy is to treat your firearms like you treat your dick: with respect, and don't pull it out unless you are going to use it.
sane people will start to look at getting a Concealed carry permit.
I'll be attending Oregon's tomorrow but certainly won't be packing or dressed for the duck blind. And to the delight of the masses, I won't be wearing my American flag tank top as it will be cold and rainy.
People are also pretty amped up right now in general. I was turning off 520 onto Montlake the other day taking the wife for a drive. I inched up and, as we've all done, wound up stuck waiting for traffic and partially blocking the cross-walk. My bad. So everyone else just went slightly around me and didn't seem to care, but this dude on a bike got worked the fuck up. So I mouthed "fuck off" back to him, and off I went; but as anyone who's driven on Montlake heading north knows, you are NOT GOING TO MAKE THE LIGHT at the intersection of Montlake and Pacific. Of course, this millenial POS pulls up right next to my window and goes off. I listened again and told him to fuck off, this time out loud with the window down. He then followed me and, against all my rational instincts, I slowed down to let him. Just approaching U Village, I slammed on my brakes and made him hit a curb and slightly crash his bike. Or whatever - he was on the ground. Now he's out of his mind, and calls my wife a name. Again, against all my rational instincts, I got out of the car and did my best pissed off crazy Cuban routine and he and I are making a fucking scene the likes of which I've not been involved for at least 20 years. But I was fucking pissed and so was he. For whatever reason, he kept yapping but walked back and motioned to pick up his bike, which was close enough to a surrender for me (fighting after age 30 is a lose/lose). I felt tuff af though. I could'a taken him. I'm sure.
True story.
My wife is traumatized by what I've done in similar circumstances. I am trying real hard to let that shit go now. Lots of freaks out there carrying illegally.
