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The truth about a vaccine.

Kaepsknee
Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,919
When the SARS-cov-1 outbreak happened in China in 2002, it wasn't near as infectious but it was extremely deadly in the percentage infected. Some countries over 30% and most over 11%. But it was contained for the most part.

However, we did go to work on a vaccine. Spent tons of money and years of effort, had some successful monkey trials. But could never get it right for humans. So they cut bait and quit. So no vaccine released for SARS.

A lot of people forget that there are 6 different corona virus' that cause a chest, sinus cold. Cold not as deadly as flu but STILL! a lot of people catch the related pneumonia and die like Dog.

No vaccines for those viruses.

The Wuflu is a closely related cousin SARS-cov-1 and it's much more contagious but way less deadly.

So riddle me this. We have never been able to come up with a vaccine for a coronavirus ever. Why are our experts telling us that we will be able to do so for this one?

And save the latest news from Oxford. They are nowhere close and it won't be September.

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  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,975 Standard Supporter
    salemcoog said:

    When the SARS-cov-1 outbreak happened in China in 2002, it wasn't near as infectious but it was extremely deadly in the percentage infected. Some countries over 30% and most over 11%. But it was contained for the most part.

    However, we did go to work on a vaccine. Spent tons of money and years of effort, had some successful monkey trials. But could never get it right for humans. So they cut bait and quit. So no vaccine released for SARS.

    A lot of people forget that there are 6 different corona virus' that cause a chest, sinus cold. Cold not as deadly as flu but STILL! a lot of people catch the related pneumonia and die like Dog.

    No vaccines for those viruses.

    The Wuflu is a closely related cousin SARS-cov-1 and it's much more contagious but way less deadly.

    So riddle me this. We have never been able to come up with a vaccine for a coronavirus ever. Why are our experts telling us that we will be able to do so for this one?

    And save the latest news from Oxford. They are nowhere close and it won't be September.

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  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 18,095 Standard Supporter

    Potentially good news for a vaccine



    https://www.livescience.com/coronavirus-mutation-rate.html

    What have we learned about the epidemic?

    Based on current data, it seems as though SARS-CoV-2 mutates much more slowly than the seasonal flu. Specifically, SARS-CoV-2 seems to have a mutation rate of less than 25 mutations per year, whereas the seasonal flu has a mutation rate of almost 50 mutations per year.

    Given that the SARS-CoV-2 genome is almost twice as large as the seasonal flu genome, it seems as though the seasonal flu mutates roughly four times as fast as SARS-CoV-2. The fact that the seasonal flu mutates so quickly is precisely why it is able to evade our vaccines, so the significantly slower mutation rate of SARS-CoV-2 gives us hope for the potential development of effective long-lasting vaccines against the virus.



  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    I don't have a clue. But I know a guy.

    He says since chia flu is more contagious than SARS and not as easily contained, there is a huge push to develop a vaccine. More than ever was for SARS. And the funding to go with it.

    But like I said, I have no clue about it.
  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    We need to stay shut down until a proven vaccine is widely available
  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 18,095 Standard Supporter
    edited April 2020
    Not only available but you need to get a chip with the shot so that they can know who is vaccinated and who isn't. And where you are at all times. And if you are speeding. Or are at a closed beach. Or having 8 people at our local softball field illegally practicing for their rec league coed softball season that our local fascists will try to stamp out. Man, did I freak out when I saw that. Was just like they were spinning a revolver and taking turns. Also, saw five semi-hot to hot young women laying on blankets on the soccer field catching some spring ultraviolet. Do they not understand the cancer risk?

    My tennis court update. The fascists are really pissed. Brand new BIG chains with oversize padlocks now protecting the tennis courts from harikari tennis players.

    So, some enterprising vandals have cut a hole in the chain fence and just duck in. Go figure.
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,919


    Potentially good news for a vaccine



    https://www.livescience.com/coronavirus-mutation-rate.html

    What have we learned about the epidemic?

    Based on current data, it seems as though SARS-CoV-2 mutates much more slowly than the seasonal flu. Specifically, SARS-CoV-2 seems to have a mutation rate of less than 25 mutations per year, whereas the seasonal flu has a mutation rate of almost 50 mutations per year.

    Given that the SARS-CoV-2 genome is almost twice as large as the seasonal flu genome, it seems as though the seasonal flu mutates roughly four times as fast as SARS-CoV-2. The fact that the seasonal flu mutates so quickly is precisely why it is able to evade our vaccines, so the significantly slower mutation rate of SARS-CoV-2 gives us hope for the potential development of effective long-lasting vaccines against the virus.



    That's good news in that the vaccine will stick for awhile if developed. But it doesn't change the fact that are no vaccines for coronavirus.
  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 70,336 Founders Club
    "What people don't understand is that they don't have a choice (about taking new vaccine)." - Bill Gates April 2020
  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 18,095 Standard Supporter
    Scratch a leftist, find a fascist. How much of our police force and "essential" bureaucracy will be needed to make sure 330 million Americans are vaccinated and have their papers.
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,919
    This guy is dialed the fuck in. 98% of what He says is proven fact.

    https://www.facebook.com/1476645464/posts/10222151772491415/?d=n
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,919

    "What people don't understand is that they don't have a choice (about taking new vaccine)." - Bill Gates April 2020

    Gates would make a Netflix Doc, Explained: The Next Pandemic released Nov 2019 that describes this Pandemic to a T.

    Around the same time Project 201 is being conducted at Johns Hopkins, in which the lead Chinese immunologist and some other eye brow raising people are involved.

    What do you think the odds are that these 2 things occur and then we have a Pandemic that matches it, shortly after.

    They have to be astronomical.