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The truth about a vaccine.

KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,751
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When the SARS-cov-1 outbreak happened in China in 2002, it wasn't near as infectious but it was extremely deadly in the percentage infected. Some countries over 30% and most over 11%. But it was contained for the most part.

However, we did go to work on a vaccine. Spent tons of money and years of effort, had some successful monkey trials. But could never get it right for humans. So they cut bait and quit. So no vaccine released for SARS.

A lot of people forget that there are 6 different corona virus' that cause a chest, sinus cold. Cold not as deadly as flu but STILL! a lot of people catch the related pneumonia and die like Dog.

No vaccines for those viruses.

The Wuflu is a closely related cousin SARS-cov-1 and it's much more contagious but way less deadly.

So riddle me this. We have never been able to come up with a vaccine for a coronavirus ever. Why are our experts telling us that we will be able to do so for this one?

And save the latest news from Oxford. They are nowhere close and it won't be September.

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    PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 42,101
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    salemcoog said:

    When the SARS-cov-1 outbreak happened in China in 2002, it wasn't near as infectious but it was extremely deadly in the percentage infected. Some countries over 30% and most over 11%. But it was contained for the most part.

    However, we did go to work on a vaccine. Spent tons of money and years of effort, had some successful monkey trials. But could never get it right for humans. So they cut bait and quit. So no vaccine released for SARS.

    A lot of people forget that there are 6 different corona virus' that cause a chest, sinus cold. Cold not as deadly as flu but STILL! a lot of people catch the related pneumonia and die like Dog.

    No vaccines for those viruses.

    The Wuflu is a closely related cousin SARS-cov-1 and it's much more contagious but way less deadly.

    So riddle me this. We have never been able to come up with a vaccine for a coronavirus ever. Why are our experts telling us that we will be able to do so for this one?

    And save the latest news from Oxford. They are nowhere close and it won't be September.

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    WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 14,131
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    Potentially good news for a vaccine



    https://www.livescience.com/coronavirus-mutation-rate.html

    What have we learned about the epidemic?

    Based on current data, it seems as though SARS-CoV-2 mutates much more slowly than the seasonal flu. Specifically, SARS-CoV-2 seems to have a mutation rate of less than 25 mutations per year, whereas the seasonal flu has a mutation rate of almost 50 mutations per year.

    Given that the SARS-CoV-2 genome is almost twice as large as the seasonal flu genome, it seems as though the seasonal flu mutates roughly four times as fast as SARS-CoV-2. The fact that the seasonal flu mutates so quickly is precisely why it is able to evade our vaccines, so the significantly slower mutation rate of SARS-CoV-2 gives us hope for the potential development of effective long-lasting vaccines against the virus.



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    MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,781
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    I don't have a clue. But I know a guy.

    He says since chia flu is more contagious than SARS and not as easily contained, there is a huge push to develop a vaccine. More than ever was for SARS. And the funding to go with it.

    But like I said, I have no clue about it.
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    doogiedoogie Member Posts: 15,072
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    We need to stay shut down until a proven vaccine is widely available
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    WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 14,131
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    Not only available but you need to get a chip with the shot so that they can know who is vaccinated and who isn't. And where you are at all times. And if you are speeding. Or are at a closed beach. Or having 8 people at our local softball field illegally practicing for their rec league coed softball season that our local fascists will try to stamp out. Man, did I freak out when I saw that. Was just like they were spinning a revolver and taking turns. Also, saw five semi-hot to hot young women laying on blankets on the soccer field catching some spring ultraviolet. Do they not understand the cancer risk?

    My tennis court update. The fascists are really pissed. Brand new BIG chains with oversize padlocks now protecting the tennis courts from harikari tennis players.

    So, some enterprising vandals have cut a hole in the chain fence and just duck in. Go figure.
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    KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,751
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    Potentially good news for a vaccine



    https://www.livescience.com/coronavirus-mutation-rate.html

    What have we learned about the epidemic?

    Based on current data, it seems as though SARS-CoV-2 mutates much more slowly than the seasonal flu. Specifically, SARS-CoV-2 seems to have a mutation rate of less than 25 mutations per year, whereas the seasonal flu has a mutation rate of almost 50 mutations per year.

    Given that the SARS-CoV-2 genome is almost twice as large as the seasonal flu genome, it seems as though the seasonal flu mutates roughly four times as fast as SARS-CoV-2. The fact that the seasonal flu mutates so quickly is precisely why it is able to evade our vaccines, so the significantly slower mutation rate of SARS-CoV-2 gives us hope for the potential development of effective long-lasting vaccines against the virus.



    That's good news in that the vaccine will stick for awhile if developed. But it doesn't change the fact that are no vaccines for coronavirus.
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    DerekJohnsonDerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 60,418
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    "What people don't understand is that they don't have a choice (about taking new vaccine)." - Bill Gates April 2020
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    WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 14,131
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    Scratch a leftist, find a fascist. How much of our police force and "essential" bureaucracy will be needed to make sure 330 million Americans are vaccinated and have their papers.
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    KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,751
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    This guy is dialed the fuck in. 98% of what He says is proven fact.

    https://www.facebook.com/1476645464/posts/10222151772491415/?d=n
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    KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,751
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    "What people don't understand is that they don't have a choice (about taking new vaccine)." - Bill Gates April 2020

    Gates would make a Netflix Doc, Explained: The Next Pandemic released Nov 2019 that describes this Pandemic to a T.

    Around the same time Project 201 is being conducted at Johns Hopkins, in which the lead Chinese immunologist and some other eye brow raising people are involved.

    What do you think the odds are that these 2 things occur and then we have a Pandemic that matches it, shortly after.

    They have to be astronomical.
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    WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 14,131
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    Not if the chicoms have been doing coronavirus investigation in a sh*tty chicom biolab for years. The chicom crud isn't bioengineered. It just escaped. They have had a least two SARS escapes while investigating the virus. Look, they have been caught stealing US coronavirus samples. They phu*cked up and let it escape. Then covered it up. Then the American left adopted all of the chicom talking points. The chicoms are in deep sh*t. Their debt level makes ours look like nickles and dimes. This has collapsed the world economy and they have just showed the stupid ignorant Americans and Euros that relying on China for critical supplies was dangerous. So, unless America decides they want to be commies run by China in the 2020 vote, their economy is going to be stripped out.
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    KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,751
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    It doesn’t have to be bio engineered to be sinister. And I’ve never believed China has acted alone on this. We have no proof of this. China took care of just about anyone that could offer insight. Like the good pastor said. It has been an absolute war against Trump to get him impeached since He got elected and really before. While the country was caught up in the impeachment that everyone knew would fail. All of this was set into motion. The WHO bought in. The UN put China on the Human rights council. The ruling globalists we’re going to get their pounds of flesh hell or high water. And a pissed off China was the perfect vehicle.
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    KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,751
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    Pastor Danny Jones out of Gainesville GA.
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    Who is that?

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    WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 14,131
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    It was sinister. It was the chicoms. It got loose in their country so they let it loose in the west. The chicoms want Trump gone. But the chicom crud will cost the chicoms dearly. That's why they are lying and covering up. The letards of the west are doing what they have done for decades - root for the away team.
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    KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,751
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    It was sinister. It was the chicoms. It got loose in their country so they let it loose in the west. The chicoms want Trump gone. But the chicom crud will cost the chicoms dearly. That's why they are lying and covering up. The letards of the west are doing what they have done for decades - root for the away team.

    More than the Chicoms want him gone.
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    WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 14,131
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    Putin, the Iranians, and the dems. All rooting for the same thing. Disgusting if you are a real American. To be ignored if you are rooting for the away team.
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    KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,751
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    Putin, the Iranians, and the dems. All rooting for the same thing. Disgusting if you are a real American. To be ignored if you are rooting for the away team.

    Putin doesn't want Trump gone.
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