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CirrhosisDawg said:
California is completely free of virus.
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As of Tuesday, the state had 374 reported COVID-19 fatalities in a state of 40 million people, compared to New York which has seen 14 times as many fatalities and has a population half that of California. Social distancing could be playing a role but New York's stay-at-order went into effect on March 22, three days after California implemented its order.
The stay at home order was and is worthless and needs to be eliminated from any further consideration. People didn't stay home anyway. And places that ignored it are the same as the sheep cowering under the bed.
But we did crash the world economy and get a tee shirt -
Getting closer to maybe thinking about figuring whether I was right.I am right.
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/simple-blood-test-covid-19-antibodies-reopen-economy/story?id=70024837With a White House increasingly anxious to get the economy in gear and an approved vaccine for the novel coronavirus still months away at best, public health officials are hoping that tens of millions of Americans will have access to a simple blood test that can identify recovered patients who've developed some kind of immune response to the virus.
The idea behind the push is that people who have been exposed to the virus form antibodies in their bloodstream that may help them to fight off another infection. The hope is that the body's antibodies against COVID-19 can diminish the chances of re-infection. Theoretically, those found to have immunized antibodies could then return to work and help reignite the economy.
Commercial labs are scrambling to develop and distribute serologic tests, as they are known, in large quantities -- and the federal government is doing its best to expedite an approval process that is, under normal circumstances, lengthy and cumbersome.
Adm. Brett Giroir, tapped by President Donald Trump to lead testing efforts, said he is "very optimistic" that tens of millions of the tests will be available by May. And he says it could dramatically change what we know about the scope of infection inside the United States.
https://hotair.com/archives/ed-morrissey/2020/04/08/abc-us-turn-corner-mass-covid-19-testing/In my earlier post, I wondered whether we knew enough to be optimistic at all. Our evidence of progress against COVID-19 comes from secondary measures — the rise and fall of death totals, hospitalizations, and in the Kinsa series, reported fevers. While that data has value, it doesn’t give us any direct evidence on just how far the disease has spread, nor what its expected lethality might be. The only people being tested now are the symptomatic and those who have come into contact with them, which means our direct evidence comes from a self-selecting sample that tells us little about the status of populations in the US.
Having test capacity on this scale, however, and with quick results to boot, would change all of those calculations. We would have hard and direct evidence of the footprints of the disease within the US. Those who have recovered from mild and unsuspected cases could be freed from self-isolation; those at risk without antibodies would know to continue it. It would finally allow us to project lethality on a rational basis, as well as prepare for a second or third wave down the road based on where the highest risks would be. -
https://www.ksbw.com/article/new-study-investigates-californias-possible-herd-immunity-to-covid-19/32073873
More proof that California is the most corrupt state in the Union.
The state is getting N95 masks, designed to protect against particles in the air, as well as surgical masks, which protect against fluids.
California taxpayers will pay $495 million upfront for the masks. The state will pay more as other shipments arrive, with a total estimated payment of $990 million, according to a letter the Newsom administration sent to the Legislature.
Newsom signed an executive order Tuesday eliminating sales and other taxes on masks, gloves, eye protection, gowns and other materials needed to protect people.
California is going to burn a Billion bucks on masks.
Masks.
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The homeless and all the illegals need masks.salemcoog said:https://www.ksbw.com/article/new-study-investigates-californias-possible-herd-immunity-to-covid-19/32073873
More proof that California is the most corrupt state in the Union.
The state is getting N95 masks, designed to protect against particles in the air, as well as surgical masks, which protect against fluids.
California taxpayers will pay $495 million upfront for the masks. The state will pay more as other shipments arrive, with a total estimated payment of $990 million, according to a letter the Newsom administration sent to the Legislature.
Newsom signed an executive order Tuesday eliminating sales and other taxes on masks, gloves, eye protection, gowns and other materials needed to protect people.
California is going to burn a Billion bucks on masks.
Masks. -
salemcoog said:
https://www.ksbw.com/article/new-study-investigates-californias-possible-herd-immunity-to-covid-19/32073873
More proof that California is the most corrupt state in the Union.
The state is getting N95 masks, designed to protect against particles in the air, as well as surgical masks, which protect against fluids.
California taxpayers will pay $495 million upfront for the masks. The state will pay more as other shipments arrive, with a total estimated payment of $990 million, according to a letter the Newsom administration sent to the Legislature.
Newsom signed an executive order Tuesday eliminating sales and other taxes on masks, gloves, eye protection, gowns and other materials needed to protect people.
California is going to burn a Billion bucks on masks.
Masks.
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We shipped the city of oxnard police dept 5000 masks. Which they didnt pay for. Now they say they dont have the funding so they are returning them.salemcoog said:https://www.ksbw.com/article/new-study-investigates-californias-possible-herd-immunity-to-covid-19/32073873
More proof that California is the most corrupt state in the Union.
The state is getting N95 masks, designed to protect against particles in the air, as well as surgical masks, which protect against fluids.
California taxpayers will pay $495 million upfront for the masks. The state will pay more as other shipments arrive, with a total estimated payment of $990 million, according to a letter the Newsom administration sent to the Legislature.
Newsom signed an executive order Tuesday eliminating sales and other taxes on masks, gloves, eye protection, gowns and other materials needed to protect people.
California is going to burn a Billion bucks on masks.
Masks. -
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A critical question in the path towards the future is how many people actually have protective novel coronavirus antibodies and possible immunity? Two research teams in California -- backed by armies of dedicated volunteers -- set out to answer this very question and the first set of results are in.
The first large-scale community test of 3,300 people in Santa Clara County found that 2.5 to 4.2% of those tested were positive for antibodies -- a number suggesting a far higher past infection rate than the official count.
Based on the initial data, researchers estimate that the range of people who may have had the virus to be between 48,000 and 81,000 in the county of 2 million -- as opposed to the approximately 1,000 in the county's official tally at the time the samples were taken.
“Our findings suggest that there is somewhere between 50- and 80-fold more infections in our county than what’s known by the number of cases than are reported by our department of public health," Dr. Eran Bendavid, the associate professor of medicine at Stanford University who led the study, said in an interview with ABC News' Diane Sawyer.
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Notably absent from the talking points.RaceBannon said:A critical question in the path towards the future is how many people actually have protective novel coronavirus antibodies and possible immunity? Two research teams in California -- backed by armies of dedicated volunteers -- set out to answer this very question and the first set of results are in.
The first large-scale community test of 3,300 people in Santa Clara County found that 2.5 to 4.2% of those tested were positive for antibodies -- a number suggesting a far higher past infection rate than the official count.
Based on the initial data, researchers estimate that the range of people who may have had the virus to be between 48,000 and 81,000 in the county of 2 million -- as opposed to the approximately 1,000 in the county's official tally at the time the samples were taken.
“Our findings suggest that there is somewhere between 50- and 80-fold more infections in our county than what’s known by the number of cases than are reported by our department of public health," Dr. Eran Bendavid, the associate professor of medicine at Stanford University who led the study, said in an interview with ABC News' Diane Sawyer.
I'm no whiz kid but doesn't this mean the death rate is grimly lower? -
Coronavirus antibody testing finds Bay Area infections may be 85 times higher than reported: researchers
https://www.foxnews.com/health/coronavirus-antibody-testing-finds-bay-area-infections-85-times-higher-reported-researchers
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It's about the same Santa Clara study.RaceBannon said:Coronavirus antibody testing finds Bay Area infections may be 85 times higher than reported: researchers
https://www.foxnews.com/health/coronavirus-antibody-testing-finds-bay-area-infections-85-times-higher-reported-researchers
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I don't have time to fact check myselfGrundleStiltzkin said:
It's about the same Santa Clara study.RaceBannon said:Coronavirus antibody testing finds Bay Area infections may be 85 times higher than reported: researchers
https://www.foxnews.com/health/coronavirus-antibody-testing-finds-bay-area-infections-85-times-higher-reported-researchers
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Several colleagues and I in SF were under the weather with fluish symptoms in January. The coughing and chest wheezing (you could hear the wheezing when I breathed normally) were so bad I went to the doctors, convinced I had pneumonia. X-Rays were negative, I was just told it was a very bad flu bug. I'm the guy who never took a sick day once in my life and rarely get sick in general. I am pretty convinced it is already well spread around here.RaceBannon said:Coronavirus antibody testing finds Bay Area infections may be 85 times higher than reported: researchers
https://www.foxnews.com/health/coronavirus-antibody-testing-finds-bay-area-infections-85-times-higher-reported-researchers
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So if this study had a error rate of +/-10% compared to the rest of the country. This is the flu.
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RaceBannon said:
A critical question in the path towards the future is how many people actually have protective novel coronavirus antibodies and possible immunity? Two research teams in California -- backed by armies of dedicated volunteers -- set out to answer this very question and the first set of results are in.
The first large-scale community test of 3,300 people in Santa Clara County found that 2.5 to 4.2% of those tested were positive for antibodies -- a number suggesting a far higher past infection rate than the official count.
Based on the initial data, researchers estimate that the range of people who may have had the virus to be between 48,000 and 81,000 in the county of 2 million -- as opposed to the approximately 1,000 in the county's official tally at the time the samples were taken.
“Our findings suggest that there is somewhere between 50- and 80-fold more infections in our county than what’s known by the number of cases than are reported by our department of public health," Dr. Eran Bendavid, the associate professor of medicine at Stanford University who led the study, said in an interview with ABC News' Diane Sawyer.
I'm no whiz kid but doesn't this mean the death rate is grimly lower?
It would be great to have the non-faux news link send to my lefty-faggot buddy on FB that thinks the sky is falling and no deserves civil liberties.RaceBannon said:Coronavirus antibody testing finds Bay Area infections may be 85 times higher than reported: researchers
https://www.foxnews.com/health/coronavirus-antibody-testing-finds-bay-area-infections-85-times-higher-reported-researchers
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Nevermind. The googles work.pawz said:RaceBannon said:A critical question in the path towards the future is how many people actually have protective novel coronavirus antibodies and possible immunity? Two research teams in California -- backed by armies of dedicated volunteers -- set out to answer this very question and the first set of results are in.
The first large-scale community test of 3,300 people in Santa Clara County found that 2.5 to 4.2% of those tested were positive for antibodies -- a number suggesting a far higher past infection rate than the official count.
Based on the initial data, researchers estimate that the range of people who may have had the virus to be between 48,000 and 81,000 in the county of 2 million -- as opposed to the approximately 1,000 in the county's official tally at the time the samples were taken.
“Our findings suggest that there is somewhere between 50- and 80-fold more infections in our county than what’s known by the number of cases than are reported by our department of public health," Dr. Eran Bendavid, the associate professor of medicine at Stanford University who led the study, said in an interview with ABC News' Diane Sawyer.
I'm no whiz kid but doesn't this mean the death rate is grimly lower?
It would be great to have the non-faux news link send to my lefty-faggot buddy on FB that thinks the sky is falling and no deserves civil liberties.RaceBannon said:Coronavirus antibody testing finds Bay Area infections may be 85 times higher than reported: researchers
https://www.foxnews.com/health/coronavirus-antibody-testing-finds-bay-area-infections-85-times-higher-reported-researchers
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Pup and I don't need to Googlepawz said:
Nevermind. The googles work.pawz said:RaceBannon said:A critical question in the path towards the future is how many people actually have protective novel coronavirus antibodies and possible immunity? Two research teams in California -- backed by armies of dedicated volunteers -- set out to answer this very question and the first set of results are in.
The first large-scale community test of 3,300 people in Santa Clara County found that 2.5 to 4.2% of those tested were positive for antibodies -- a number suggesting a far higher past infection rate than the official count.
Based on the initial data, researchers estimate that the range of people who may have had the virus to be between 48,000 and 81,000 in the county of 2 million -- as opposed to the approximately 1,000 in the county's official tally at the time the samples were taken.
“Our findings suggest that there is somewhere between 50- and 80-fold more infections in our county than what’s known by the number of cases than are reported by our department of public health," Dr. Eran Bendavid, the associate professor of medicine at Stanford University who led the study, said in an interview with ABC News' Diane Sawyer.
I'm no whiz kid but doesn't this mean the death rate is grimly lower?
It would be great to have the non-faux news link send to my lefty-faggot buddy on FB that thinks the sky is falling and no deserves civil liberties.RaceBannon said:Coronavirus antibody testing finds Bay Area infections may be 85 times higher than reported: researchers
https://www.foxnews.com/health/coronavirus-antibody-testing-finds-bay-area-infections-85-times-higher-reported-researchers
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AskJeevs, true ?!RaceBannon said:
Pup and I don't need to Googlepawz said:
Nevermind. The googles work.pawz said:RaceBannon said:A critical question in the path towards the future is how many people actually have protective novel coronavirus antibodies and possible immunity? Two research teams in California -- backed by armies of dedicated volunteers -- set out to answer this very question and the first set of results are in.
The first large-scale community test of 3,300 people in Santa Clara County found that 2.5 to 4.2% of those tested were positive for antibodies -- a number suggesting a far higher past infection rate than the official count.
Based on the initial data, researchers estimate that the range of people who may have had the virus to be between 48,000 and 81,000 in the county of 2 million -- as opposed to the approximately 1,000 in the county's official tally at the time the samples were taken.
“Our findings suggest that there is somewhere between 50- and 80-fold more infections in our county than what’s known by the number of cases than are reported by our department of public health," Dr. Eran Bendavid, the associate professor of medicine at Stanford University who led the study, said in an interview with ABC News' Diane Sawyer.
I'm no whiz kid but doesn't this mean the death rate is grimly lower?
It would be great to have the non-faux news link send to my lefty-faggot buddy on FB that thinks the sky is falling and no deserves civil liberties.RaceBannon said:Coronavirus antibody testing finds Bay Area infections may be 85 times higher than reported: researchers
https://www.foxnews.com/health/coronavirus-antibody-testing-finds-bay-area-infections-85-times-higher-reported-researchers
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pre-pandemic n-95 masks were about $1 each In qtysalemcoog said:https://www.ksbw.com/article/new-study-investigates-californias-possible-herd-immunity-to-covid-19/32073873
More proof that California is the most corrupt state in the Union.
The state is getting N95 masks, designed to protect against particles in the air, as well as surgical masks, which protect against fluids.
California taxpayers will pay $495 million upfront for the masks. The state will pay more as other shipments arrive, with a total estimated payment of $990 million, according to a letter the Newsom administration sent to the Legislature.
Newsom signed an executive order Tuesday eliminating sales and other taxes on masks, gloves, eye protection, gowns and other materials needed to protect people.
California is going to burn a Billion bucks on masks.
Masks.
I remember when Gray Davis locked California into multi decade contracts with Enron at the top of the market
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Kick backs baby. The dems are all about the kick backs.doogie said:
pre-pandemic n-95 masks were about $1 each In qtysalemcoog said:https://www.ksbw.com/article/new-study-investigates-californias-possible-herd-immunity-to-covid-19/32073873
More proof that California is the most corrupt state in the Union.
The state is getting N95 masks, designed to protect against particles in the air, as well as surgical masks, which protect against fluids.
California taxpayers will pay $495 million upfront for the masks. The state will pay more as other shipments arrive, with a total estimated payment of $990 million, according to a letter the Newsom administration sent to the Legislature.
Newsom signed an executive order Tuesday eliminating sales and other taxes on masks, gloves, eye protection, gowns and other materials needed to protect people.
California is going to burn a Billion bucks on masks.
Masks.
I remember when Gray Davis locked California into multi decade contracts with Enron at the top of the market
What is it with California governors? -
I I have the to rona and no one is around to hear it, did I have the rona?
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My fav lib quote lately
"I’m a strong advocate for free speech but I firmly believe there should be laws banning anti-scientific rhetoric. This includes climate change denial, anti-vaxx, scientific racism/white supremacy, transphobic rhetoric, and, obviously, this nonsense."
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Any links that don't contain AIDS???GrundleStiltzkin said: -
USC and the Los Angeles County Department of Public Health (Public Health) today released preliminary results from a collaborative scientific study that suggests infections from the new coronavirus are far more widespread - and the fatality rate much lower - in L.A. County than previously thought.
The results are from the first round of an ongoing study by USC researchers and Public Health officials. They will be conducting antibody testing over time on a series of representative samples of adults to determine the scope and spread of the pandemic across the county.
Based on results of the first round of testing, the research team estimates that approximately 4.1% of the county's adult population has antibody to the virus. Adjusting this estimate for statistical margin of error implies about 2.8% to 5.6% of the county's adult population has antibody to the virus- which translates to approximately 221,000 to 442,000 adults in the county who have had the infection. That estimate is 28 to 55 times higher than the 7,994 confirmed cases of COVID-19 reported to the county by the time of the study in early April. The number of COVID-related deaths in the county has now surpassed 600.
"We haven't known the true extent of COVID-19 infections in our community because we have only tested people with symptoms, and the availability of tests has been limited," said lead investigator Neeraj Sood, a USC professor of public policy at USC Price School for Public Policy and senior fellow at USC Schaeffer Center for Health Policy and Economics. "The estimates also suggest that we might have to recalibrate disease prediction models and rethink public health strategies." -
But the tests were from CHINA!!!!!!!GrundleStiltzkin said:USC and the Los Angeles County Department of Public Health (Public Health) today released preliminary results from a collaborative scientific study that suggests infections from the new coronavirus are far more widespread - and the fatality rate much lower - in L.A. County than previously thought.
The results are from the first round of an ongoing study by USC researchers and Public Health officials. They will be conducting antibody testing over time on a series of representative samples of adults to determine the scope and spread of the pandemic across the county.
Based on results of the first round of testing, the research team estimates that approximately 4.1% of the county's adult population has antibody to the virus. Adjusting this estimate for statistical margin of error implies about 2.8% to 5.6% of the county's adult population has antibody to the virus- which translates to approximately 221,000 to 442,000 adults in the county who have had the infection. That estimate is 28 to 55 times higher than the 7,994 confirmed cases of COVID-19 reported to the county by the time of the study in early April. The number of COVID-related deaths in the county has now surpassed 600.
"We haven't known the true extent of COVID-19 infections in our community because we have only tested people with symptoms, and the availability of tests has been limited," said lead investigator Neeraj Sood, a USC professor of public policy at USC Price School for Public Policy and senior fellow at USC Schaeffer Center for Health Policy and Economics. "The estimates also suggest that we might have to recalibrate disease prediction models and rethink public health strategies."
And the Dem politicians are going to spin this into longer lockdowns because of more infections even though it walks, talks and kills like a normal flu. -
#meetooGladstone said:
Several colleagues and I in SF were under the weather with fluish symptoms in January. The coughing and chest wheezing (you could hear the wheezing when I breathed normally) were so bad I went to the doctors, convinced I had pneumonia. X-Rays were negative, I was just told it was a very bad flu bug. I'm the guy who never took a sick day once in my life and rarely get sick in general. I am pretty convinced it is already well spread around here.RaceBannon said:Coronavirus antibody testing finds Bay Area infections may be 85 times higher than reported: researchers
https://www.foxnews.com/health/coronavirus-antibody-testing-finds-bay-area-infections-85-times-higher-reported-researchers
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I remember the ITS NOT THE FLU phase that the experts hadsalemcoog said:
But the tests were from CHINA!!!!!!!GrundleStiltzkin said:USC and the Los Angeles County Department of Public Health (Public Health) today released preliminary results from a collaborative scientific study that suggests infections from the new coronavirus are far more widespread - and the fatality rate much lower - in L.A. County than previously thought.
The results are from the first round of an ongoing study by USC researchers and Public Health officials. They will be conducting antibody testing over time on a series of representative samples of adults to determine the scope and spread of the pandemic across the county.
Based on results of the first round of testing, the research team estimates that approximately 4.1% of the county's adult population has antibody to the virus. Adjusting this estimate for statistical margin of error implies about 2.8% to 5.6% of the county's adult population has antibody to the virus- which translates to approximately 221,000 to 442,000 adults in the county who have had the infection. That estimate is 28 to 55 times higher than the 7,994 confirmed cases of COVID-19 reported to the county by the time of the study in early April. The number of COVID-related deaths in the county has now surpassed 600.
"We haven't known the true extent of COVID-19 infections in our community because we have only tested people with symptoms, and the availability of tests has been limited," said lead investigator Neeraj Sood, a USC professor of public policy at USC Price School for Public Policy and senior fellow at USC Schaeffer Center for Health Policy and Economics. "The estimates also suggest that we might have to recalibrate disease prediction models and rethink public health strategies."
And the Dem politicians are going to spin this into longer lockdowns because of more infections even though it walks, talks and kills like a normal flu.