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Dems want to give people a shit ton of money

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  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,184 Founders Club

    @GrundleStiltzkin was right. Trump is a 90's Dem. By and large he borrows from both center-left and center-right policies. If the Left wasn't so hung up on the cult of personality and PC identity politics they'd probably be getting a historic amount of bipartisan shit they want anyways. Union worker protections, Environmental protections for trade policies, tons of government investment in infrastructure and Moon-landing type of government projects, pull back from interventionism and nation-building, etc.

    Fuck, let's keep it going, addressing systemic inner city poverty and crime, addressing the opioid crisis and the related homeless crisis, job training and reinvigorating the rust belt/ American manufacturing...

    There's at least 20 policy areas that Trump is capable of reaching a medicare part D compromise but that doesn't fit with the Orange Man Bad narrative and the far left is ideologically incapable of compromise so there you have it.

    How the fuck do you think Trump stole the white working class vote from the Dems? Oh right, it must just be that the US is super ultra racist it doesn't have anything to do with his cross-partisan appeal.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,108 Founders Club

    @GrundleStiltzkin was right. Trump is a 90's Dem. By and large he borrows from both center-left and center-right policies. If the Left wasn't so hung up on the cult of personality and PC identity politics they'd probably be getting a historic amount of bipartisan shit they want anyways. Union worker protections, Environmental protections for trade policies, tons of government investment in infrastructure and Moon-landing type of government projects, pull back from interventionism and nation-building, etc.

    Fuck, let's keep it going, addressing systemic inner city poverty and crime, addressing the opioid crisis and the related homeless crisis, job training and reinvigorating the rust belt/ American manufacturing...

    There's at least 20 policy areas that Trump is capable of reaching a medicare part D compromise but that doesn't fit with the Orange Man Bad narrative and the far left is ideologically incapable of compromise so there you have it.

    How the fuck do you think Trump stole the white working class vote from the Dems? Oh right, it must just be that the US is super ultra racist it doesn't have anything to do with his cross-partisan appeal.
    I've tried to tell them
  • BayDawg
    BayDawg Member Posts: 1,623
    SFGbob said:

    BayDawg said:

    BayDawg said:

    The radical left ruined it for all of the moderate democrats. They are just as wacko as the far right. Most democrats dont think like the far left. It would be great if we could start a third party for the middle. I think moderate Republicans and the moderate Democrats are in agreement about a lot of positions.

    If you did a blind taste test Pepsi beats coke and Trump is the mainstream candidate
    If he actually did and said what he really that thought I would maybe agree. But, he has become to busy pandering to the far right idiots for me to buy that. And I understand why, it's the problem with politics now. Moderates cant get elected.
    Give us some examples of Trump pandering to the far right.
    Abortion. It is the far right issue. Pandering was probably the wrong word. My point is Trumps business and economical practices are positions that moderate democrats can be on board with. He seems to have catered his rhetoric to the Evangelical churches. And that is where he loses me. The same way the far left loses me when they take their radical stances. Hence, people that are fiscally conservative and pro-choice are kind of the odd man out. It's why I dont really pay attention to politics anymore. I dont seem to belong to anyone.
  • Baseman
    Baseman Member Posts: 12,369
    Baseman said:


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  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913
    BayDawg said:

    SFGbob said:

    BayDawg said:

    BayDawg said:

    The radical left ruined it for all of the moderate democrats. They are just as wacko as the far right. Most democrats dont think like the far left. It would be great if we could start a third party for the middle. I think moderate Republicans and the moderate Democrats are in agreement about a lot of positions.

    If you did a blind taste test Pepsi beats coke and Trump is the mainstream candidate
    If he actually did and said what he really that thought I would maybe agree. But, he has become to busy pandering to the far right idiots for me to buy that. And I understand why, it's the problem with politics now. Moderates cant get elected.
    Give us some examples of Trump pandering to the far right.
    Abortion. It is the far right issue. Pandering was probably the wrong word. My point is Trumps business and economical practices are positions that moderate democrats can be on board with. He seems to have catered his rhetoric to the Evangelical churches. And that is where he loses me. The same way the far left loses me when they take their radical stances. Hence, people that are fiscally conservative and pro-choice are kind of the odd man out. It's why I dont really pay attention to politics anymore. I dont seem to belong to anyone.
    Unfortunately Fiscal conservativism died with Carter. The Tea Party made a half hearted run to bring it back and did some damage in the ‘10 mid terms. But ultimately their other views weren’t palatable to the masses and it died forever.