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RoadTrip
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I can't remember where I heard or read this in the last 2 days but has anyone else heard that deaths in the United States due to heart failure and pneumonia are down 40% year over year? It could be BS and I want to be responsible and not spread more lies if this isn't true. On the other hand, if it is true, it is a damning statistic on the COVID19 agenda. I've looked for official stats on this and can't find them.
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You should check the data again of the tweet you linked. The graph they created claims that the CDC reported less than 2500 deaths in week 11 of 2020, due to pneumonia. That would of course be a huge drop from previous years, the obvious implication being that a lot of unrelated deaths are being classified as covid deaths to juice the stats.salemcoog said:
But if you actually view the chart data listed on the CDC website, you'll see that the number of deaths attributed to pneumonia in week 11 of 2020 was 3,445, which is entirely consistent with prior years. This same pattern holds true for all other weeks in 2020 - there is no single week that the CDC is reporting less than 3,400 deaths due to pneumonia. So yeah, go figure, the tweet you linked from an anonymous follower of a far-right blogger is manipulated bullshit.
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/#S2 -
Actually there is no mention of actual pneumonia deaths on that page, only %'s.GreenRiverGatorz said:
You should check the data again of the tweet you linked. The graph they created claims that the CDC reported less than 2500 deaths in week 11 of 2020, due to pneumonia. That would of course be a huge drop from previous years, the obvious implication being that a lot of unrelated deaths are being classified as covid deaths to juice the stats.salemcoog said:
But if you actually view the chart data listed on the CDC website, you'll see that the number of deaths attributed to pneumonia in week 11 of 2020 was 3,445, which is entirely consistent with prior years. This same pattern holds true for all other weeks in 2020 - there is no single week that the CDC is reporting less than 3,400 deaths due to pneumonia. So yeah, go figure, the tweet you linked from an anonymous follower of a far-right blogger is manipulated bullshit.
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/#S2
Ope. I found the spread sheet. The spread sheet that only goes up to week 13. The last week of March more or less. How many covid deaths did we have by the last week of March?, March 28th we had 2,220 total deaths. So the 2 things don't relate based on the data available now. The real story will be seen with the last couple weeks.
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Click "view chart data" in the influenza deaths section, near the bottom of the page. That'll open up a pdf from the CDC.salemcoog said:
Actually there is no mention of actual pneumonia deaths on that page, only %'s.GreenRiverGatorz said:
You should check the data again of the tweet you linked. The graph they created claims that the CDC reported less than 2500 deaths in week 11 of 2020, due to pneumonia. That would of course be a huge drop from previous years, the obvious implication being that a lot of unrelated deaths are being classified as covid deaths to juice the stats.salemcoog said:
But if you actually view the chart data listed on the CDC website, you'll see that the number of deaths attributed to pneumonia in week 11 of 2020 was 3,445, which is entirely consistent with prior years. This same pattern holds true for all other weeks in 2020 - there is no single week that the CDC is reporting less than 3,400 deaths due to pneumonia. So yeah, go figure, the tweet you linked from an anonymous follower of a far-right blogger is manipulated bullshit.
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/#S2 -
I did. They only go to the week ending March 28 when we had less than 2300 total deaths. So the fudging hadn't started yet. The proof in the pudding will be week 15 and on.GreenRiverGatorz said:
Click "view chart data" in the influenza deaths section, near the bottom of the page. That'll open up a pdf from the CDC.salemcoog said:
Actually there is no mention of actual pneumonia deaths on that page, only %'s.GreenRiverGatorz said:
You should check the data again of the tweet you linked. The graph they created claims that the CDC reported less than 2500 deaths in week 11 of 2020, due to pneumonia. That would of course be a huge drop from previous years, the obvious implication being that a lot of unrelated deaths are being classified as covid deaths to juice the stats.salemcoog said:
But if you actually view the chart data listed on the CDC website, you'll see that the number of deaths attributed to pneumonia in week 11 of 2020 was 3,445, which is entirely consistent with prior years. This same pattern holds true for all other weeks in 2020 - there is no single week that the CDC is reporting less than 3,400 deaths due to pneumonia. So yeah, go figure, the tweet you linked from an anonymous follower of a far-right blogger is manipulated bullshit.
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/#S2 -
Guys. Thanks so much. So essentially we should wait another 2-3 weeks to see if significant fudging with the numbers has taken place?salemcoog said:
I did. They only go to the week ending March 28 when we had less than 2300 total deaths. So the fudging hadn't started yet. The proof in the pudding will be week 15 and on.GreenRiverGatorz said:
Click "view chart data" in the influenza deaths section, near the bottom of the page. That'll open up a pdf from the CDC.salemcoog said:
Actually there is no mention of actual pneumonia deaths on that page, only %'s.GreenRiverGatorz said:
You should check the data again of the tweet you linked. The graph they created claims that the CDC reported less than 2500 deaths in week 11 of 2020, due to pneumonia. That would of course be a huge drop from previous years, the obvious implication being that a lot of unrelated deaths are being classified as covid deaths to juice the stats.salemcoog said:
But if you actually view the chart data listed on the CDC website, you'll see that the number of deaths attributed to pneumonia in week 11 of 2020 was 3,445, which is entirely consistent with prior years. This same pattern holds true for all other weeks in 2020 - there is no single week that the CDC is reporting less than 3,400 deaths due to pneumonia. So yeah, go figure, the tweet you linked from an anonymous follower of a far-right blogger is manipulated bullshit.
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/#S2 -
Christ.salemcoog said:
I did. They only go to the week ending March 28 when we had less than 2300 total deaths. So the fudging hadn't started yet. The proof in the pudding will be week 15 and on.GreenRiverGatorz said:
Click "view chart data" in the influenza deaths section, near the bottom of the page. That'll open up a pdf from the CDC.salemcoog said:
Actually there is no mention of actual pneumonia deaths on that page, only %'s.GreenRiverGatorz said:
You should check the data again of the tweet you linked. The graph they created claims that the CDC reported less than 2500 deaths in week 11 of 2020, due to pneumonia. That would of course be a huge drop from previous years, the obvious implication being that a lot of unrelated deaths are being classified as covid deaths to juice the stats.salemcoog said:
But if you actually view the chart data listed on the CDC website, you'll see that the number of deaths attributed to pneumonia in week 11 of 2020 was 3,445, which is entirely consistent with prior years. This same pattern holds true for all other weeks in 2020 - there is no single week that the CDC is reporting less than 3,400 deaths due to pneumonia. So yeah, go figure, the tweet you linked from an anonymous follower of a far-right blogger is manipulated bullshit.
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/#S2
Just click the damn link I'm spoon feeding you and it'll open up the pdf directly. You'll then see the data through week 13 of 2020. There is no 2300 deaths, that stat is made up by the dense cunt whose twitter you linked. Don't be a dense cunt yourself.
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/weeklyarchives2019-2020/data/NCHSData14.csv -
Some people dont want to know, doesn't fit the agenda.GreenRiverGatorz said:
Christ.salemcoog said:
I did. They only go to the week ending March 28 when we had less than 2300 total deaths. So the fudging hadn't started yet. The proof in the pudding will be week 15 and on.GreenRiverGatorz said:
Click "view chart data" in the influenza deaths section, near the bottom of the page. That'll open up a pdf from the CDC.salemcoog said:
Actually there is no mention of actual pneumonia deaths on that page, only %'s.GreenRiverGatorz said:
You should check the data again of the tweet you linked. The graph they created claims that the CDC reported less than 2500 deaths in week 11 of 2020, due to pneumonia. That would of course be a huge drop from previous years, the obvious implication being that a lot of unrelated deaths are being classified as covid deaths to juice the stats.salemcoog said:
But if you actually view the chart data listed on the CDC website, you'll see that the number of deaths attributed to pneumonia in week 11 of 2020 was 3,445, which is entirely consistent with prior years. This same pattern holds true for all other weeks in 2020 - there is no single week that the CDC is reporting less than 3,400 deaths due to pneumonia. So yeah, go figure, the tweet you linked from an anonymous follower of a far-right blogger is manipulated bullshit.
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/#S2
Just click the damn link I'm spoon feeding you and it'll open up the pdf directly. You'll then see the data through week 13 of 2020. There is no 2300 deaths, that stat is made up by the dense cunt whose twitter you linked. Don't be a dense cunt yourself.
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/weeklyarchives2019-2020/data/NCHSData14.csv -
And some people are just dense cunts. salem is making a hard charge for that banner.BayDawg said:
Some people dont want to know, doesn't fit the agenda.GreenRiverGatorz said:
Christ.salemcoog said:
I did. They only go to the week ending March 28 when we had less than 2300 total deaths. So the fudging hadn't started yet. The proof in the pudding will be week 15 and on.GreenRiverGatorz said:
Click "view chart data" in the influenza deaths section, near the bottom of the page. That'll open up a pdf from the CDC.salemcoog said:
Actually there is no mention of actual pneumonia deaths on that page, only %'s.GreenRiverGatorz said:
You should check the data again of the tweet you linked. The graph they created claims that the CDC reported less than 2500 deaths in week 11 of 2020, due to pneumonia. That would of course be a huge drop from previous years, the obvious implication being that a lot of unrelated deaths are being classified as covid deaths to juice the stats.salemcoog said:
But if you actually view the chart data listed on the CDC website, you'll see that the number of deaths attributed to pneumonia in week 11 of 2020 was 3,445, which is entirely consistent with prior years. This same pattern holds true for all other weeks in 2020 - there is no single week that the CDC is reporting less than 3,400 deaths due to pneumonia. So yeah, go figure, the tweet you linked from an anonymous follower of a far-right blogger is manipulated bullshit.
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/#S2
Just click the damn link I'm spoon feeding you and it'll open up the pdf directly. You'll then see the data through week 13 of 2020. There is no 2300 deaths, that stat is made up by the dense cunt whose twitter you linked. Don't be a dense cunt yourself.
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/weeklyarchives2019-2020/data/NCHSData14.csv -
WE HAD LESS THAN 2300 CORONA DEATHS ON MAR 28th. And spreadsheets aren't PDF'sGreenRiverGatorz said:
Christ.salemcoog said:
I did. They only go to the week ending March 28 when we had less than 2300 total deaths. So the fudging hadn't started yet. The proof in the pudding will be week 15 and on.GreenRiverGatorz said:
Click "view chart data" in the influenza deaths section, near the bottom of the page. That'll open up a pdf from the CDC.salemcoog said:
Actually there is no mention of actual pneumonia deaths on that page, only %'s.GreenRiverGatorz said:
You should check the data again of the tweet you linked. The graph they created claims that the CDC reported less than 2500 deaths in week 11 of 2020, due to pneumonia. That would of course be a huge drop from previous years, the obvious implication being that a lot of unrelated deaths are being classified as covid deaths to juice the stats.salemcoog said:
But if you actually view the chart data listed on the CDC website, you'll see that the number of deaths attributed to pneumonia in week 11 of 2020 was 3,445, which is entirely consistent with prior years. This same pattern holds true for all other weeks in 2020 - there is no single week that the CDC is reporting less than 3,400 deaths due to pneumonia. So yeah, go figure, the tweet you linked from an anonymous follower of a far-right blogger is manipulated bullshit.
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/#S2
Just click the damn link I'm spoon feeding you and it'll open up the pdf directly. You'll then see the data through week 13 of 2020. There is no 2300 deaths, that stat is made up by the dense cunt whose twitter you linked. Don't be a dense cunt yourself.
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/weeklyarchives2019-2020/data/NCHSData14.csv
And T's and P's to your reading comprehension -
New Corona bro. Did you get fed up with Facebook and come here?BayDawg said:
Some people dont want to know, doesn't fit the agenda.GreenRiverGatorz said:
Christ.salemcoog said:
I did. They only go to the week ending March 28 when we had less than 2300 total deaths. So the fudging hadn't started yet. The proof in the pudding will be week 15 and on.GreenRiverGatorz said:
Click "view chart data" in the influenza deaths section, near the bottom of the page. That'll open up a pdf from the CDC.salemcoog said:
Actually there is no mention of actual pneumonia deaths on that page, only %'s.GreenRiverGatorz said:
You should check the data again of the tweet you linked. The graph they created claims that the CDC reported less than 2500 deaths in week 11 of 2020, due to pneumonia. That would of course be a huge drop from previous years, the obvious implication being that a lot of unrelated deaths are being classified as covid deaths to juice the stats.salemcoog said:
But if you actually view the chart data listed on the CDC website, you'll see that the number of deaths attributed to pneumonia in week 11 of 2020 was 3,445, which is entirely consistent with prior years. This same pattern holds true for all other weeks in 2020 - there is no single week that the CDC is reporting less than 3,400 deaths due to pneumonia. So yeah, go figure, the tweet you linked from an anonymous follower of a far-right blogger is manipulated bullshit.
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/#S2
Just click the damn link I'm spoon feeding you and it'll open up the pdf directly. You'll then see the data through week 13 of 2020. There is no 2300 deaths, that stat is made up by the dense cunt whose twitter you linked. Don't be a dense cunt yourself.
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/weeklyarchives2019-2020/data/NCHSData14.csv -
Christ you're dumb. There haven't been less than 3400 PNEOMONIA deaths in a single week. The tweet you linked was an outright lie. If you had an ounce of self awareness you'd take your lumps and fuck off.salemcoog said:
WE HAD LESS THAN 2300 CORONA DEATHS ON MAR 28th. And spreadsheets aren't PDF'sGreenRiverGatorz said:
Christ.salemcoog said:
I did. They only go to the week ending March 28 when we had less than 2300 total deaths. So the fudging hadn't started yet. The proof in the pudding will be week 15 and on.GreenRiverGatorz said:
Click "view chart data" in the influenza deaths section, near the bottom of the page. That'll open up a pdf from the CDC.salemcoog said:
Actually there is no mention of actual pneumonia deaths on that page, only %'s.GreenRiverGatorz said:
You should check the data again of the tweet you linked. The graph they created claims that the CDC reported less than 2500 deaths in week 11 of 2020, due to pneumonia. That would of course be a huge drop from previous years, the obvious implication being that a lot of unrelated deaths are being classified as covid deaths to juice the stats.salemcoog said:
But if you actually view the chart data listed on the CDC website, you'll see that the number of deaths attributed to pneumonia in week 11 of 2020 was 3,445, which is entirely consistent with prior years. This same pattern holds true for all other weeks in 2020 - there is no single week that the CDC is reporting less than 3,400 deaths due to pneumonia. So yeah, go figure, the tweet you linked from an anonymous follower of a far-right blogger is manipulated bullshit.
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/#S2
Just click the damn link I'm spoon feeding you and it'll open up the pdf directly. You'll then see the data through week 13 of 2020. There is no 2300 deaths, that stat is made up by the dense cunt whose twitter you linked. Don't be a dense cunt yourself.
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/weeklyarchives2019-2020/data/NCHSData14.csv
And T's and P's to your reading comprehension -
You apparently haven't read any of my previous posts. Youre just being an ass, more power to you. I will continue to have my own personal thoughts on this issue.
And I dont have Facebook. -
Could be Lemon Party. Clicking anyway.GreenRiverGatorz said:
Christ.salemcoog said:
I did. They only go to the week ending March 28 when we had less than 2300 total deaths. So the fudging hadn't started yet. The proof in the pudding will be week 15 and on.GreenRiverGatorz said:
Click "view chart data" in the influenza deaths section, near the bottom of the page. That'll open up a pdf from the CDC.salemcoog said:
Actually there is no mention of actual pneumonia deaths on that page, only %'s.GreenRiverGatorz said:
You should check the data again of the tweet you linked. The graph they created claims that the CDC reported less than 2500 deaths in week 11 of 2020, due to pneumonia. That would of course be a huge drop from previous years, the obvious implication being that a lot of unrelated deaths are being classified as covid deaths to juice the stats.salemcoog said:
But if you actually view the chart data listed on the CDC website, you'll see that the number of deaths attributed to pneumonia in week 11 of 2020 was 3,445, which is entirely consistent with prior years. This same pattern holds true for all other weeks in 2020 - there is no single week that the CDC is reporting less than 3,400 deaths due to pneumonia. So yeah, go figure, the tweet you linked from an anonymous follower of a far-right blogger is manipulated bullshit.
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/#S2
Just click the damn link I'm spoon feeding you and it'll open up the pdf directly. You'll then see the data through week 13 of 2020. There is no 2300 deaths, that stat is made up by the dense cunt whose twitter you linked. Don't be a dense cunt yourself.
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/weeklyarchives2019-2020/data/NCHSData14.csv
Secretly hoping for Lemon Party when being honest. -
One thing I have noticed is that most men on Facebook wear Apple Watches. One or the other you might be a fag, both and it's game set match you're a queer.BayDawg said:You apparently haven't read any of my previous posts. Youre just being an ass, more power to you. I will continue to have my own personal thoughts on this issue.
And I dont have Facebook. -
Good, I have neither.Swaye said:
One thing I have noticed is that most men on Facebook wear Apple Watches. One or the other you might be a fag, both and it's game set match you're a queer.BayDawg said:You apparently haven't read any of my previous posts. Youre just being an ass, more power to you. I will continue to have my own personal thoughts on this issue.
And I dont have Facebook. -
Pneumonia deaths are down 5% compared to last year but most of the decline was during the first two months of the year before Covid deaths started adding up. Since week 10 (beginning of March), the difference is less than 3%. So yea, salem is a fucking moron.salemcoog said:
WE HAD LESS THAN 2300 CORONA DEATHS ON MAR 28th. And spreadsheets aren't PDF'sGreenRiverGatorz said:
Christ.salemcoog said:
I did. They only go to the week ending March 28 when we had less than 2300 total deaths. So the fudging hadn't started yet. The proof in the pudding will be week 15 and on.GreenRiverGatorz said:
Click "view chart data" in the influenza deaths section, near the bottom of the page. That'll open up a pdf from the CDC.salemcoog said:
Actually there is no mention of actual pneumonia deaths on that page, only %'s.GreenRiverGatorz said:
You should check the data again of the tweet you linked. The graph they created claims that the CDC reported less than 2500 deaths in week 11 of 2020, due to pneumonia. That would of course be a huge drop from previous years, the obvious implication being that a lot of unrelated deaths are being classified as covid deaths to juice the stats.salemcoog said:
But if you actually view the chart data listed on the CDC website, you'll see that the number of deaths attributed to pneumonia in week 11 of 2020 was 3,445, which is entirely consistent with prior years. This same pattern holds true for all other weeks in 2020 - there is no single week that the CDC is reporting less than 3,400 deaths due to pneumonia. So yeah, go figure, the tweet you linked from an anonymous follower of a far-right blogger is manipulated bullshit.
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/#S2
Just click the damn link I'm spoon feeding you and it'll open up the pdf directly. You'll then see the data through week 13 of 2020. There is no 2300 deaths, that stat is made up by the dense cunt whose twitter you linked. Don't be a dense cunt yourself.
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/weeklyarchives2019-2020/data/NCHSData14.csv
And T's and P's to your reading comprehension
Week 2019 2020 YoY
1 3917 3998 2%
2 4056 3995 -2%
3 4094 3903 -5%
4 3894 3742 -4%
5 3888 3607 -7%
6 3890 3594 -8%
7 3890 3567 -8%
8 3973 3410 -14%
9 3753 3446 -8%
10 3746 3530 -6%
11 3979 3445 -13%
12 3795 3697 -3%
13 3712 4135 11%
Grand Total 50587 48069 -5%
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Thankfully lemon parties are still compliant in states with the draconian bannings of gatherings larger than ten people.Swaye said:
Could be Lemon Party. Clicking anyway.GreenRiverGatorz said:
Christ.salemcoog said:
I did. They only go to the week ending March 28 when we had less than 2300 total deaths. So the fudging hadn't started yet. The proof in the pudding will be week 15 and on.GreenRiverGatorz said:
Click "view chart data" in the influenza deaths section, near the bottom of the page. That'll open up a pdf from the CDC.salemcoog said:
Actually there is no mention of actual pneumonia deaths on that page, only %'s.GreenRiverGatorz said:
You should check the data again of the tweet you linked. The graph they created claims that the CDC reported less than 2500 deaths in week 11 of 2020, due to pneumonia. That would of course be a huge drop from previous years, the obvious implication being that a lot of unrelated deaths are being classified as covid deaths to juice the stats.salemcoog said:
But if you actually view the chart data listed on the CDC website, you'll see that the number of deaths attributed to pneumonia in week 11 of 2020 was 3,445, which is entirely consistent with prior years. This same pattern holds true for all other weeks in 2020 - there is no single week that the CDC is reporting less than 3,400 deaths due to pneumonia. So yeah, go figure, the tweet you linked from an anonymous follower of a far-right blogger is manipulated bullshit.
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/#S2
Just click the damn link I'm spoon feeding you and it'll open up the pdf directly. You'll then see the data through week 13 of 2020. There is no 2300 deaths, that stat is made up by the dense cunt whose twitter you linked. Don't be a dense cunt yourself.
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/weeklyarchives2019-2020/data/NCHSData14.csv
Secretly hoping for Lemon Party when being honest. -
I was pretty sure with that avatar you liked the split tail. I have always respected that about you.BayDawg said:
Good, I have neither.Swaye said:
One thing I have noticed is that most men on Facebook wear Apple Watches. One or the other you might be a fag, both and it's game set match you're a queer.BayDawg said:You apparently haven't read any of my previous posts. Youre just being an ass, more power to you. I will continue to have my own personal thoughts on this issue.
And I dont have Facebook. -
Looks like pneumonia deaths would overrun the healthcare system. 50k? Piled up like cordwood
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So his graph was off for maybe 2 of the weeks that we have hard data for.GreenRiverGatorz said:
Christ you're dumb. There haven't been less than 3400 PNEOMONIA deaths in a single week. The tweet you linked was an outright lie. If you had an ounce of self awareness you'd take your lumps and fuck off.salemcoog said:
WE HAD LESS THAN 2300 CORONA DEATHS ON MAR 28th. And spreadsheets aren't PDF'sGreenRiverGatorz said:
Christ.salemcoog said:
I did. They only go to the week ending March 28 when we had less than 2300 total deaths. So the fudging hadn't started yet. The proof in the pudding will be week 15 and on.GreenRiverGatorz said:
Click "view chart data" in the influenza deaths section, near the bottom of the page. That'll open up a pdf from the CDC.salemcoog said:
Actually there is no mention of actual pneumonia deaths on that page, only %'s.GreenRiverGatorz said:
You should check the data again of the tweet you linked. The graph they created claims that the CDC reported less than 2500 deaths in week 11 of 2020, due to pneumonia. That would of course be a huge drop from previous years, the obvious implication being that a lot of unrelated deaths are being classified as covid deaths to juice the stats.salemcoog said:
But if you actually view the chart data listed on the CDC website, you'll see that the number of deaths attributed to pneumonia in week 11 of 2020 was 3,445, which is entirely consistent with prior years. This same pattern holds true for all other weeks in 2020 - there is no single week that the CDC is reporting less than 3,400 deaths due to pneumonia. So yeah, go figure, the tweet you linked from an anonymous follower of a far-right blogger is manipulated bullshit.
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/#S2
Just click the damn link I'm spoon feeding you and it'll open up the pdf directly. You'll then see the data through week 13 of 2020. There is no 2300 deaths, that stat is made up by the dense cunt whose twitter you linked. Don't be a dense cunt yourself.
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/weeklyarchives2019-2020/data/NCHSData14.csv
And T's and P's to your reading comprehension
Your'e so caught up in being right, that you miss the big picture. Which is the latest data from the CDC comes at a time when we had 2220 TOTAL US deaths from corona.
So. That means that the Hospitals haven't had an opportunity to fudge data by classifying pneumonia deaths as corona deaths as they are now and have fully admitted to doing so.
So when the Week 15 stats come out and we don't see any major drops in pneumonia deaths. You'll be right.
If it turns out that there is a big drop in pneumonia deaths, I'll be right.
At this point there isn't enough data to know.
Wanna place a wager?
I bet the week 15 stats will show at least a 30% drop in pneumonia deaths from last year.
If it's less than that, I'll be gone, no warnings until College Football kicks off.
If I'm right, Than you go poof until then.
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No dipshit. His graph was flagrantly wrong in order to try to create the false impression that pneomonia deaths are being wrongly classified as covid deaths.salemcoog said:
So his graph was off for maybe 2 of the weeks that we have hard data for.GreenRiverGatorz said:
Christ you're dumb. There haven't been less than 3400 PNEOMONIA deaths in a single week. The tweet you linked was an outright lie. If you had an ounce of self awareness you'd take your lumps and fuck off.salemcoog said:
WE HAD LESS THAN 2300 CORONA DEATHS ON MAR 28th. And spreadsheets aren't PDF'sGreenRiverGatorz said:
Christ.salemcoog said:
I did. They only go to the week ending March 28 when we had less than 2300 total deaths. So the fudging hadn't started yet. The proof in the pudding will be week 15 and on.GreenRiverGatorz said:
Click "view chart data" in the influenza deaths section, near the bottom of the page. That'll open up a pdf from the CDC.salemcoog said:
Actually there is no mention of actual pneumonia deaths on that page, only %'s.GreenRiverGatorz said:
You should check the data again of the tweet you linked. The graph they created claims that the CDC reported less than 2500 deaths in week 11 of 2020, due to pneumonia. That would of course be a huge drop from previous years, the obvious implication being that a lot of unrelated deaths are being classified as covid deaths to juice the stats.salemcoog said:
But if you actually view the chart data listed on the CDC website, you'll see that the number of deaths attributed to pneumonia in week 11 of 2020 was 3,445, which is entirely consistent with prior years. This same pattern holds true for all other weeks in 2020 - there is no single week that the CDC is reporting less than 3,400 deaths due to pneumonia. So yeah, go figure, the tweet you linked from an anonymous follower of a far-right blogger is manipulated bullshit.
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/#S2
Just click the damn link I'm spoon feeding you and it'll open up the pdf directly. You'll then see the data through week 13 of 2020. There is no 2300 deaths, that stat is made up by the dense cunt whose twitter you linked. Don't be a dense cunt yourself.
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/weeklyarchives2019-2020/data/NCHSData14.csv
And T's and P's to your reading comprehension
Your'e so caught up in being right, that you miss the big picture. Which is the latest data from the CDC comes at a time when we had 2220 TOTAL US deaths from corona.
So. That means that the Hospitals haven't had an opportunity to fudge data by classifying pneumonia deaths as corona deaths as they are now and have fully admitted to doing so.
So when the Week 15 stats come out and we don't see any major drops in pneumonia deaths. You'll be right.
If it turns out that there is a big drop in pneumonia deaths, I'll be right.
At this point there isn't enough data to know.
Wanna place a wager?
I bet the week 15 stats will show at least a 30% drop in pneumonia deaths from last year.
If it's less than that, I'll be gone, no warnings until College Football kicks off.
If I'm right, Than you go poof until then.
I'll spell this out for you (again). His graph said there were ~2300 pneumonia deaths in week 11, which would obviously be a huge drop relative to other week 11s in previous years. But the actual number the CDC published for week 11 was 3,445. The ~2300 was never published by the CDC. The person who duped you made that up.
I'm usually very graceful in victory (and in the occasional defeat). I'm just a good god damn person. But you're a dense cunt who can't recognize when he's been had, so fuck being graceful and you can fuck right off. -
So you are a pussy that won't bet on himself.GreenRiverGatorz said:
No dipshit. His graph was flagrantly wrong in order to try to create the false impression that pneomonia deaths are being wrongly classified as covid deaths.salemcoog said:
So his graph was off for maybe 2 of the weeks that we have hard data for.GreenRiverGatorz said:
Christ you're dumb. There haven't been less than 3400 PNEOMONIA deaths in a single week. The tweet you linked was an outright lie. If you had an ounce of self awareness you'd take your lumps and fuck off.salemcoog said:
WE HAD LESS THAN 2300 CORONA DEATHS ON MAR 28th. And spreadsheets aren't PDF'sGreenRiverGatorz said:
Christ.salemcoog said:
I did. They only go to the week ending March 28 when we had less than 2300 total deaths. So the fudging hadn't started yet. The proof in the pudding will be week 15 and on.GreenRiverGatorz said:
Click "view chart data" in the influenza deaths section, near the bottom of the page. That'll open up a pdf from the CDC.salemcoog said:
Actually there is no mention of actual pneumonia deaths on that page, only %'s.GreenRiverGatorz said:
You should check the data again of the tweet you linked. The graph they created claims that the CDC reported less than 2500 deaths in week 11 of 2020, due to pneumonia. That would of course be a huge drop from previous years, the obvious implication being that a lot of unrelated deaths are being classified as covid deaths to juice the stats.salemcoog said:
But if you actually view the chart data listed on the CDC website, you'll see that the number of deaths attributed to pneumonia in week 11 of 2020 was 3,445, which is entirely consistent with prior years. This same pattern holds true for all other weeks in 2020 - there is no single week that the CDC is reporting less than 3,400 deaths due to pneumonia. So yeah, go figure, the tweet you linked from an anonymous follower of a far-right blogger is manipulated bullshit.
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/#S2
Just click the damn link I'm spoon feeding you and it'll open up the pdf directly. You'll then see the data through week 13 of 2020. There is no 2300 deaths, that stat is made up by the dense cunt whose twitter you linked. Don't be a dense cunt yourself.
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/weeklyarchives2019-2020/data/NCHSData14.csv
And T's and P's to your reading comprehension
Your'e so caught up in being right, that you miss the big picture. Which is the latest data from the CDC comes at a time when we had 2220 TOTAL US deaths from corona.
So. That means that the Hospitals haven't had an opportunity to fudge data by classifying pneumonia deaths as corona deaths as they are now and have fully admitted to doing so.
So when the Week 15 stats come out and we don't see any major drops in pneumonia deaths. You'll be right.
If it turns out that there is a big drop in pneumonia deaths, I'll be right.
At this point there isn't enough data to know.
Wanna place a wager?
I bet the week 15 stats will show at least a 30% drop in pneumonia deaths from last year.
If it's less than that, I'll be gone, no warnings until College Football kicks off.
If I'm right, Than you go poof until then.
I'll spell this out for you (again). His graph said there were ~2300 pneumonia deaths in week 11, which would obviously be a huge drop relative to other week 11s in previous years. But the actual number the CDC published for week 11 was 3,445. The ~2300 was never published by the CDC. The person who duped you made that up.
I'm usually very graceful in victory (and in the occasional defeat). I'm just a good god damn person. But you're a dense cunt who can't recognize when he's been had, so fuck being graceful and you can fuck right off.
Figured as much.
Enjoy your unemployment check. I'm sure they'll process your claim. real soon. -
salemcoog said:
So you are a pussy that won't bet on himself.GreenRiverGatorz said:
No dipshit. His graph was flagrantly wrong in order to try to create the false impression that pneomonia deaths are being wrongly classified as covid deaths.salemcoog said:
So his graph was off for maybe 2 of the weeks that we have hard data for.GreenRiverGatorz said:
Christ you're dumb. There haven't been less than 3400 PNEOMONIA deaths in a single week. The tweet you linked was an outright lie. If you had an ounce of self awareness you'd take your lumps and fuck off.salemcoog said:
WE HAD LESS THAN 2300 CORONA DEATHS ON MAR 28th. And spreadsheets aren't PDF'sGreenRiverGatorz said:
Christ.salemcoog said:
I did. They only go to the week ending March 28 when we had less than 2300 total deaths. So the fudging hadn't started yet. The proof in the pudding will be week 15 and on.GreenRiverGatorz said:
Click "view chart data" in the influenza deaths section, near the bottom of the page. That'll open up a pdf from the CDC.salemcoog said:
Actually there is no mention of actual pneumonia deaths on that page, only %'s.GreenRiverGatorz said:
You should check the data again of the tweet you linked. The graph they created claims that the CDC reported less than 2500 deaths in week 11 of 2020, due to pneumonia. That would of course be a huge drop from previous years, the obvious implication being that a lot of unrelated deaths are being classified as covid deaths to juice the stats.salemcoog said:
But if you actually view the chart data listed on the CDC website, you'll see that the number of deaths attributed to pneumonia in week 11 of 2020 was 3,445, which is entirely consistent with prior years. This same pattern holds true for all other weeks in 2020 - there is no single week that the CDC is reporting less than 3,400 deaths due to pneumonia. So yeah, go figure, the tweet you linked from an anonymous follower of a far-right blogger is manipulated bullshit.
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/#S2
Just click the damn link I'm spoon feeding you and it'll open up the pdf directly. You'll then see the data through week 13 of 2020. There is no 2300 deaths, that stat is made up by the dense cunt whose twitter you linked. Don't be a dense cunt yourself.
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/weeklyarchives2019-2020/data/NCHSData14.csv
And T's and P's to your reading comprehension
Your'e so caught up in being right, that you miss the big picture. Which is the latest data from the CDC comes at a time when we had 2220 TOTAL US deaths from corona.
So. That means that the Hospitals haven't had an opportunity to fudge data by classifying pneumonia deaths as corona deaths as they are now and have fully admitted to doing so.
So when the Week 15 stats come out and we don't see any major drops in pneumonia deaths. You'll be right.
If it turns out that there is a big drop in pneumonia deaths, I'll be right.
At this point there isn't enough data to know.
Wanna place a wager?
I bet the week 15 stats will show at least a 30% drop in pneumonia deaths from last year.
If it's less than that, I'll be gone, no warnings until College Football kicks off.
If I'm right, Than you go poof until then.
I'll spell this out for you (again). His graph said there were ~2300 pneumonia deaths in week 11, which would obviously be a huge drop relative to other week 11s in previous years. But the actual number the CDC published for week 11 was 3,445. The ~2300 was never published by the CDC. The person who duped you made that up.
I'm usually very graceful in victory (and in the occasional defeat). I'm just a good god damn person. But you're a dense cunt who can't recognize when he's been had, so fuck being graceful and you can fuck right off.
Figured as much.
-
Take the bet pussy.GreenRiverGatorz said:salemcoog said:
So you are a pussy that won't bet on himself.GreenRiverGatorz said:
No dipshit. His graph was flagrantly wrong in order to try to create the false impression that pneomonia deaths are being wrongly classified as covid deaths.salemcoog said:
So his graph was off for maybe 2 of the weeks that we have hard data for.GreenRiverGatorz said:
Christ you're dumb. There haven't been less than 3400 PNEOMONIA deaths in a single week. The tweet you linked was an outright lie. If you had an ounce of self awareness you'd take your lumps and fuck off.salemcoog said:
WE HAD LESS THAN 2300 CORONA DEATHS ON MAR 28th. And spreadsheets aren't PDF'sGreenRiverGatorz said:
Christ.salemcoog said:
I did. They only go to the week ending March 28 when we had less than 2300 total deaths. So the fudging hadn't started yet. The proof in the pudding will be week 15 and on.GreenRiverGatorz said:
Click "view chart data" in the influenza deaths section, near the bottom of the page. That'll open up a pdf from the CDC.salemcoog said:
Actually there is no mention of actual pneumonia deaths on that page, only %'s.GreenRiverGatorz said:
You should check the data again of the tweet you linked. The graph they created claims that the CDC reported less than 2500 deaths in week 11 of 2020, due to pneumonia. That would of course be a huge drop from previous years, the obvious implication being that a lot of unrelated deaths are being classified as covid deaths to juice the stats.salemcoog said:
But if you actually view the chart data listed on the CDC website, you'll see that the number of deaths attributed to pneumonia in week 11 of 2020 was 3,445, which is entirely consistent with prior years. This same pattern holds true for all other weeks in 2020 - there is no single week that the CDC is reporting less than 3,400 deaths due to pneumonia. So yeah, go figure, the tweet you linked from an anonymous follower of a far-right blogger is manipulated bullshit.
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/#S2
Just click the damn link I'm spoon feeding you and it'll open up the pdf directly. You'll then see the data through week 13 of 2020. There is no 2300 deaths, that stat is made up by the dense cunt whose twitter you linked. Don't be a dense cunt yourself.
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/weeklyarchives2019-2020/data/NCHSData14.csv
And T's and P's to your reading comprehension
Your'e so caught up in being right, that you miss the big picture. Which is the latest data from the CDC comes at a time when we had 2220 TOTAL US deaths from corona.
So. That means that the Hospitals haven't had an opportunity to fudge data by classifying pneumonia deaths as corona deaths as they are now and have fully admitted to doing so.
So when the Week 15 stats come out and we don't see any major drops in pneumonia deaths. You'll be right.
If it turns out that there is a big drop in pneumonia deaths, I'll be right.
At this point there isn't enough data to know.
Wanna place a wager?
I bet the week 15 stats will show at least a 30% drop in pneumonia deaths from last year.
If it's less than that, I'll be gone, no warnings until College Football kicks off.
If I'm right, Than you go poof until then.
I'll spell this out for you (again). His graph said there were ~2300 pneumonia deaths in week 11, which would obviously be a huge drop relative to other week 11s in previous years. But the actual number the CDC published for week 11 was 3,445. The ~2300 was never published by the CDC. The person who duped you made that up.
I'm usually very graceful in victory (and in the occasional defeat). I'm just a good god damn person. But you're a dense cunt who can't recognize when he's been had, so fuck being graceful and you can fuck right off.
Figured as much. -
Cooking the death books pays well.
