Welcome to the Hardcore Husky Forums. Folks who are well-known in Cyberland and not that dumb.
Help with statistics
RoadTrip
Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,240 
in Tug Tavern
I can't remember where I heard or read this in the last 2 days but has anyone else heard that deaths in the United States due to heart failure and pneumonia are down 40% year over year? It could be BS and I want to be responsible and not spread more lies if this isn't true. On the other hand, if it is true, it is a damning statistic on the COVID19 agenda. I've looked for official stats on this and can't find them.
Comments
-
You should check the data again of the tweet you linked. The graph they created claims that the CDC reported less than 2500 deaths in week 11 of 2020, due to pneumonia. That would of course be a huge drop from previous years, the obvious implication being that a lot of unrelated deaths are being classified as covid deaths to juice the stats.salemcoog said:
But if you actually view the chart data listed on the CDC website, you'll see that the number of deaths attributed to pneumonia in week 11 of 2020 was 3,445, which is entirely consistent with prior years. This same pattern holds true for all other weeks in 2020 - there is no single week that the CDC is reporting less than 3,400 deaths due to pneumonia. So yeah, go figure, the tweet you linked from an anonymous follower of a far-right blogger is manipulated bullshit.
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/#S2 -
Actually there is no mention of actual pneumonia deaths on that page, only %'s.GreenRiverGatorz said:
You should check the data again of the tweet you linked. The graph they created claims that the CDC reported less than 2500 deaths in week 11 of 2020, due to pneumonia. That would of course be a huge drop from previous years, the obvious implication being that a lot of unrelated deaths are being classified as covid deaths to juice the stats.salemcoog said:
But if you actually view the chart data listed on the CDC website, you'll see that the number of deaths attributed to pneumonia in week 11 of 2020 was 3,445, which is entirely consistent with prior years. This same pattern holds true for all other weeks in 2020 - there is no single week that the CDC is reporting less than 3,400 deaths due to pneumonia. So yeah, go figure, the tweet you linked from an anonymous follower of a far-right blogger is manipulated bullshit.
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/#S2
Ope. I found the spread sheet. The spread sheet that only goes up to week 13. The last week of March more or less. How many covid deaths did we have by the last week of March?, March 28th we had 2,220 total deaths. So the 2 things don't relate based on the data available now. The real story will be seen with the last couple weeks.
So basically your numbers are irrevelant. -
Click "view chart data" in the influenza deaths section, near the bottom of the page. That'll open up a pdf from the CDC.salemcoog said:
Actually there is no mention of actual pneumonia deaths on that page, only %'s.GreenRiverGatorz said:
You should check the data again of the tweet you linked. The graph they created claims that the CDC reported less than 2500 deaths in week 11 of 2020, due to pneumonia. That would of course be a huge drop from previous years, the obvious implication being that a lot of unrelated deaths are being classified as covid deaths to juice the stats.salemcoog said:
But if you actually view the chart data listed on the CDC website, you'll see that the number of deaths attributed to pneumonia in week 11 of 2020 was 3,445, which is entirely consistent with prior years. This same pattern holds true for all other weeks in 2020 - there is no single week that the CDC is reporting less than 3,400 deaths due to pneumonia. So yeah, go figure, the tweet you linked from an anonymous follower of a far-right blogger is manipulated bullshit.
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/#S2 -
I did. They only go to the week ending March 28 when we had less than 2300 total deaths. So the fudging hadn't started yet. The proof in the pudding will be week 15 and on.GreenRiverGatorz said:
Click "view chart data" in the influenza deaths section, near the bottom of the page. That'll open up a pdf from the CDC.salemcoog said:
Actually there is no mention of actual pneumonia deaths on that page, only %'s.GreenRiverGatorz said:
You should check the data again of the tweet you linked. The graph they created claims that the CDC reported less than 2500 deaths in week 11 of 2020, due to pneumonia. That would of course be a huge drop from previous years, the obvious implication being that a lot of unrelated deaths are being classified as covid deaths to juice the stats.salemcoog said:
But if you actually view the chart data listed on the CDC website, you'll see that the number of deaths attributed to pneumonia in week 11 of 2020 was 3,445, which is entirely consistent with prior years. This same pattern holds true for all other weeks in 2020 - there is no single week that the CDC is reporting less than 3,400 deaths due to pneumonia. So yeah, go figure, the tweet you linked from an anonymous follower of a far-right blogger is manipulated bullshit.
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/#S2 -
Guys. Thanks so much. So essentially we should wait another 2-3 weeks to see if significant fudging with the numbers has taken place?salemcoog said:
I did. They only go to the week ending March 28 when we had less than 2300 total deaths. So the fudging hadn't started yet. The proof in the pudding will be week 15 and on.GreenRiverGatorz said:
Click "view chart data" in the influenza deaths section, near the bottom of the page. That'll open up a pdf from the CDC.salemcoog said:
Actually there is no mention of actual pneumonia deaths on that page, only %'s.GreenRiverGatorz said:
You should check the data again of the tweet you linked. The graph they created claims that the CDC reported less than 2500 deaths in week 11 of 2020, due to pneumonia. That would of course be a huge drop from previous years, the obvious implication being that a lot of unrelated deaths are being classified as covid deaths to juice the stats.salemcoog said:
But if you actually view the chart data listed on the CDC website, you'll see that the number of deaths attributed to pneumonia in week 11 of 2020 was 3,445, which is entirely consistent with prior years. This same pattern holds true for all other weeks in 2020 - there is no single week that the CDC is reporting less than 3,400 deaths due to pneumonia. So yeah, go figure, the tweet you linked from an anonymous follower of a far-right blogger is manipulated bullshit.
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/#S2 -
Christ.salemcoog said:
I did. They only go to the week ending March 28 when we had less than 2300 total deaths. So the fudging hadn't started yet. The proof in the pudding will be week 15 and on.GreenRiverGatorz said:
Click "view chart data" in the influenza deaths section, near the bottom of the page. That'll open up a pdf from the CDC.salemcoog said:
Actually there is no mention of actual pneumonia deaths on that page, only %'s.GreenRiverGatorz said:
You should check the data again of the tweet you linked. The graph they created claims that the CDC reported less than 2500 deaths in week 11 of 2020, due to pneumonia. That would of course be a huge drop from previous years, the obvious implication being that a lot of unrelated deaths are being classified as covid deaths to juice the stats.salemcoog said:
But if you actually view the chart data listed on the CDC website, you'll see that the number of deaths attributed to pneumonia in week 11 of 2020 was 3,445, which is entirely consistent with prior years. This same pattern holds true for all other weeks in 2020 - there is no single week that the CDC is reporting less than 3,400 deaths due to pneumonia. So yeah, go figure, the tweet you linked from an anonymous follower of a far-right blogger is manipulated bullshit.
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/#S2
Just click the damn link I'm spoon feeding you and it'll open up the pdf directly. You'll then see the data through week 13 of 2020. There is no 2300 deaths, that stat is made up by the dense cunt whose twitter you linked. Don't be a dense cunt yourself.
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/weeklyarchives2019-2020/data/NCHSData14.csv -
Some people dont want to know, doesn't fit the agenda.GreenRiverGatorz said:
Christ.salemcoog said:
I did. They only go to the week ending March 28 when we had less than 2300 total deaths. So the fudging hadn't started yet. The proof in the pudding will be week 15 and on.GreenRiverGatorz said:
Click "view chart data" in the influenza deaths section, near the bottom of the page. That'll open up a pdf from the CDC.salemcoog said:
Actually there is no mention of actual pneumonia deaths on that page, only %'s.GreenRiverGatorz said:
You should check the data again of the tweet you linked. The graph they created claims that the CDC reported less than 2500 deaths in week 11 of 2020, due to pneumonia. That would of course be a huge drop from previous years, the obvious implication being that a lot of unrelated deaths are being classified as covid deaths to juice the stats.salemcoog said:
But if you actually view the chart data listed on the CDC website, you'll see that the number of deaths attributed to pneumonia in week 11 of 2020 was 3,445, which is entirely consistent with prior years. This same pattern holds true for all other weeks in 2020 - there is no single week that the CDC is reporting less than 3,400 deaths due to pneumonia. So yeah, go figure, the tweet you linked from an anonymous follower of a far-right blogger is manipulated bullshit.
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/#S2
Just click the damn link I'm spoon feeding you and it'll open up the pdf directly. You'll then see the data through week 13 of 2020. There is no 2300 deaths, that stat is made up by the dense cunt whose twitter you linked. Don't be a dense cunt yourself.
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/weeklyarchives2019-2020/data/NCHSData14.csv -
And some people are just dense cunts. salem is making a hard charge for that banner.BayDawg said:
Some people dont want to know, doesn't fit the agenda.GreenRiverGatorz said:
Christ.salemcoog said:
I did. They only go to the week ending March 28 when we had less than 2300 total deaths. So the fudging hadn't started yet. The proof in the pudding will be week 15 and on.GreenRiverGatorz said:
Click "view chart data" in the influenza deaths section, near the bottom of the page. That'll open up a pdf from the CDC.salemcoog said:
Actually there is no mention of actual pneumonia deaths on that page, only %'s.GreenRiverGatorz said:
You should check the data again of the tweet you linked. The graph they created claims that the CDC reported less than 2500 deaths in week 11 of 2020, due to pneumonia. That would of course be a huge drop from previous years, the obvious implication being that a lot of unrelated deaths are being classified as covid deaths to juice the stats.salemcoog said:
But if you actually view the chart data listed on the CDC website, you'll see that the number of deaths attributed to pneumonia in week 11 of 2020 was 3,445, which is entirely consistent with prior years. This same pattern holds true for all other weeks in 2020 - there is no single week that the CDC is reporting less than 3,400 deaths due to pneumonia. So yeah, go figure, the tweet you linked from an anonymous follower of a far-right blogger is manipulated bullshit.
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/#S2
Just click the damn link I'm spoon feeding you and it'll open up the pdf directly. You'll then see the data through week 13 of 2020. There is no 2300 deaths, that stat is made up by the dense cunt whose twitter you linked. Don't be a dense cunt yourself.
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/weeklyarchives2019-2020/data/NCHSData14.csv -
WE HAD LESS THAN 2300 CORONA DEATHS ON MAR 28th. And spreadsheets aren't PDF'sGreenRiverGatorz said:
Christ.salemcoog said:
I did. They only go to the week ending March 28 when we had less than 2300 total deaths. So the fudging hadn't started yet. The proof in the pudding will be week 15 and on.GreenRiverGatorz said:
Click "view chart data" in the influenza deaths section, near the bottom of the page. That'll open up a pdf from the CDC.salemcoog said:
Actually there is no mention of actual pneumonia deaths on that page, only %'s.GreenRiverGatorz said:
You should check the data again of the tweet you linked. The graph they created claims that the CDC reported less than 2500 deaths in week 11 of 2020, due to pneumonia. That would of course be a huge drop from previous years, the obvious implication being that a lot of unrelated deaths are being classified as covid deaths to juice the stats.salemcoog said:
But if you actually view the chart data listed on the CDC website, you'll see that the number of deaths attributed to pneumonia in week 11 of 2020 was 3,445, which is entirely consistent with prior years. This same pattern holds true for all other weeks in 2020 - there is no single week that the CDC is reporting less than 3,400 deaths due to pneumonia. So yeah, go figure, the tweet you linked from an anonymous follower of a far-right blogger is manipulated bullshit.
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/#S2
Just click the damn link I'm spoon feeding you and it'll open up the pdf directly. You'll then see the data through week 13 of 2020. There is no 2300 deaths, that stat is made up by the dense cunt whose twitter you linked. Don't be a dense cunt yourself.
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/weeklyarchives2019-2020/data/NCHSData14.csv
And T's and P's to your reading comprehension
