Mario Cristobal Building A Monster

ramenduck said:

Cristobal has championship DNA. He's seen it done, with a few exceptions, everywhere he has been. He is the best test of whether an NC can be won in Eugene.

Disagree.

Oregon saw their best chance already. They had a small window under Chip where they were schematically ahead of every team in the country. Had they not choked at home against Stanford, Oregon beats Notre Dame by 2-3 touchdowns in the Championship game to win the title.

PandaOrangeChiknDuck said:

ramenduck said:

Cristobal has championship DNA. He's seen it done, with a few exceptions, everywhere he has been. He is the best test of whether an NC can be won in Eugene.

Disagree.

Oregon saw their best chance already. They had a small window under Chip where they were schematically ahead of every team in the country. Had they not choked at home against Stanford, Oregon beats Notre Dame by 2-3 touchdowns in the Championship game to win the title.

Not so sure. He may have been schematically ahead of the rest for a time, but he wasn't recruiting at an elite level. He also ran a system that was predicated on getting out of the blocks and overwhelming other teams who, before they knew it, were down 3 TDs. It didn't work so well when that didn't happen. I'm not saying they weren't good. They were. That win against a very good Wisconsin team in the Rose Bowl was solid.

But if he continues to recruit at a high level and, importantly, continue focusing on being physical on both sides of the ball, then they have as good a shot, or better, than they've ever had. Being able to run the ball to stay or get out of trouble is still a fundamental advantage in football.

PandaOrangeChiknDuck said:

creepycoug said:

PandaOrangeChiknDuck said:

ramenduck said:

Cristobal has championship DNA. He's seen it done, with a few exceptions, everywhere he has been. He is the best test of whether an NC can be won in Eugene.

Disagree.

Oregon saw their best chance already. They had a small window under Chip where they were schematically ahead of every team in the country. Had they not choked at home against Stanford, Oregon beats Notre Dame by 2-3 touchdowns in the Championship game to win the title.

Not so sure. He may have been schematically ahead of the rest for a time, but he wasn't recruiting at an elite level. He also ran a system that was predicated on getting out of the blocks and overwhelming other teams who, before they knew it, were down 3 TDs. It didn't work so well when that didn't happen. I'm not saying they weren't good. They were. That win against a very good Wisconsin team in the Rose Bowl was solid.

But if he continues to recruit at a high level and, importantly, continue focusing on being physical on both sides of the ball, then they have as good a shot, or better, than they've ever had. Being able to run the ball to stay or get out of trouble is still a fundamental advantage in football.

Probably, but that 2013 season was set up perfectly. Notre Dame went into that title game against Alabama as the most overrated undefeated team in modern history. Had Oregon beat Stanford that night, it would have been Oregon and not Alabama in that game. I was responding to "Cristobal being the best test". I'm saying Oregon already proved they could without Cristobal, given a perfect storm. The 2013 season was that perfect storm until they choked.

Got it. But still,

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PandaOrangeChiknDuck said:

ramenduck said:

Cristobal has championship DNA. He's seen it done, with a few exceptions, everywhere he has been. He is the best test of whether an NC can be won in Eugene.

Disagree.

Oregon saw their best chance already. They had a small window under Chip where they were schematically ahead of every team in the country. Had they not choked at home against Stanford, Oregon beats Notre Dame by 2-3 touchdowns in the Championship game to win the title.

Good post.

I'll take the L here. The fact that Oregon played in 2 NC games is enough indication that a NC could/can be won in Eugene.

Chip and Oregon were playing football on a different planet than everyone else during a very narrow window and missed their best shot.

Let me move the goalposts. Cristobal is the test of whether or not truly elite talent can be recruited to Oregon and consequently win a NC.

creepycoug said:

RaceBannon said:

Watched the B1G network show on the 2014 Buckeye championship team

In 2012 they were unbeaten but on probation

In 2013 they were unbeaten but lost to Michigan State in title game. They too wanted that spot against Notre Dame

2014 they beat Bama and the ducks

Urban Legend

That 2014 Buckeye team beats a lot of teams in the title game. They're up there with some really great teams. What a fuckign running game they had.

I rewatched over the holiday and didn’t realize they also had Michael Thomas at WR.