Sub K "the #1 mistake we are making in recruiting"
Comments
-
An argument can be made that our program can better its online presence selling the program. I agree with thatlouism2wash said:Sub K is not wrong regarding the our AD's ineptitude with social media. Yeah, some of his schtick is over the top but his message is spot on. Like it or not, the generation of kids who we are recruiting live their lives on social media. To not be excelling in that space is at worst a terrible mistake and, at best, a missed opportunity.
No logical argument can be made to back up the over the top shit he is spewing out there. -
What mostly matters in recruiting is winning, sending guys to the NFL and location. The problem with UW is they haven’t won any big games and are coming off a eight win season. Compare that to a school like Ohio State that is coming off a playoff appearance or Oregon who just won a Rose bowl. UW’s biggest obstacle right now is showing recruits that they aren’t on a down turn.
-
This. We have a tough time beating out schools that win bigger and more consistently than we do. Like Ohio State, Clemson, Alabama, etc. That’s really it.sonics1993 said:What mostly matters in recruiting is winning, sending guys to the NFL and location. The problem with UW is they haven’t won any big games and are coming off a eight win season. Compare that to a school like Ohio State that is coming off a playoff appearance or Oregon who just won a Rose bowl. UW’s biggest obstacle right now is showing recruits that they aren’t on a down turn.
We beat Oregon out for a lot of our recruits. You can argue they are recruiting better, but they don’t have a vastly more talented team. -
Yet you don't agree with criticizing the burnout that dropped the Rose Bowl and subsequently mailed in the 8 win season.sonics1993 said:What mostly matters in recruiting is winning, sending guys to the NFL and location. The problem with UW is they haven’t won any big games and are coming off a eight win season. Compare that to a school like Ohio State that is coming off a playoff appearance or Oregon who just won a Rose bowl. UW’s biggest obstacle right now is showing recruits that they aren’t on a down turn.
-
That “burnout” took us from 7-8 win seasons to 10+ wins and an appearance in a new year six bowl game for three straight years. One down year doesn’t erase that especially when that down year would have been considered a successful season before he got here. He raised the bar and if he was still here, I think he would have won one of those games. Problem is Jimmy doesn’t have a track record like Pete.haie said:
Yet you don't agree with criticizing the burnout that dropped the Rose Bowl and subsequently mailed in the 8 win season.sonics1993 said:What mostly matters in recruiting is winning, sending guys to the NFL and location. The problem with UW is they haven’t won any big games and are coming off a eight win season. Compare that to a school like Ohio State that is coming off a playoff appearance or Oregon who just won a Rose bowl. UW’s biggest obstacle right now is showing recruits that they aren’t on a down turn.
-
I too listened to that 2 hours of garbage that made my ears bleed.bananasnblondes said:Our AD is posting pictures of cherry blossoms on twitter while Ohio State is posting goofy videos where they ask the coaches if they know what fortnite is.
Did it ever occur to you that maybe, just maybe, your publicly-available podcast where you bash the former head coach, current head coach, AD, assistant coaches, former players, and current players for over an hour might actually be a bigger tool for negative recruitment than the cherry blossom picture posted by the AD.
He talks about how UW doesn't make any sales content like the big boys, but tOSU is 10 days into a bottle flipping contest and UGA is posting situp training videos from their strength coach. His rant about Budda's brother being killed on the mean streets of South Seattle left out the fact that the shooting happened in Ballard (RIP Robert Baker, no disrespect intended).
I get that SubK knows a few things as a former player, but Chest, DDY and the other BDTW guys have lost me by sucking up to him so much. -
This wasn't a down year.sonics1993 said:
That “burnout” took us from 7-8 win seasons to 10+ wins and an appearance in a new year six bowl game for three straight years. One down year doesn’t erase that especially when that down year would have been considered a successful season before he got here. He raised the bar and if he was still here, I think he would have won one of those games. Problem is Jimmy doesn’t have a track record like Pete.haie said:
Yet you don't agree with criticizing the burnout that dropped the Rose Bowl and subsequently mailed in the 8 win season.sonics1993 said:What mostly matters in recruiting is winning, sending guys to the NFL and location. The problem with UW is they haven’t won any big games and are coming off a eight win season. Compare that to a school like Ohio State that is coming off a playoff appearance or Oregon who just won a Rose bowl. UW’s biggest obstacle right now is showing recruits that they aren’t on a down turn.
Favored by the metrics in every game but one, Oregon at home where we blow a two touchdown lead.
Pete decides before the apple cup (probably realizes his offense is such shit he could actually lose to Leach at home) that he's done at Washington, comes out and admits that he's been burned out since before the apple cup.
You act like we're so lucky to have him. He had a formula that could win 10 games with decent experience and yet he still lost to a lot of shit coaches: Graham, Helton (I don't believe for a second UW should have lost that game in 2016), Mora, Guy who just dipped out of Colorado, etc.
Still not over him starting at 8-6 and quitting after 8-5. Beat Oregon just twice. My God. You could argue that he failed at Washington. -
I do feel like we were lucky to have as a head coach because it’s very hard to find a successful head coach in college especially when you compare the resources we have to other schools. As far as the fail thing, I don’t know how anyone could argue the Pete failed at Washington.haie said:
This wasn't a down year.sonics1993 said:
That “burnout” took us from 7-8 win seasons to 10+ wins and an appearance in a new year six bowl game for three straight years. One down year doesn’t erase that especially when that down year would have been considered a successful season before he got here. He raised the bar and if he was still here, I think he would have won one of those games. Problem is Jimmy doesn’t have a track record like Pete.haie said:
Yet you don't agree with criticizing the burnout that dropped the Rose Bowl and subsequently mailed in the 8 win season.sonics1993 said:What mostly matters in recruiting is winning, sending guys to the NFL and location. The problem with UW is they haven’t won any big games and are coming off a eight win season. Compare that to a school like Ohio State that is coming off a playoff appearance or Oregon who just won a Rose bowl. UW’s biggest obstacle right now is showing recruits that they aren’t on a down turn.
Favored by the metrics in every game but one, Oregon at home where we blow a two touchdown lead.
Pete decides before the apple cup (probably realizes his offense is such shit he could actually lose to Leach at home) that he's done at Washington, comes out and admits that he's been burned out since before the apple cup.
You act like we're so lucky to have him. He had a formula that could win 10 games with decent experience and yet he still lost to a lot of shit coaches: Graham, Helton (I don't believe for a second UW should have lost that game in 2016), Mora, Guy who just dipped out of Colorado, etc.
Still not over him starting at 8-6 and quitting after 8-5. Beat Oregon just twice. My God. You could argue that he failed at Washington.
-
What schools are you comparing us to?sonics1993 said:
I do feel like we were lucky to have as a head coach because it’s very hard to find a successful head coach in college especially when you compare the resources we have to other schools. As far as the fail thing, I don’t know how anyone could argue the Pete failed at Washington.haie said:
This wasn't a down year.sonics1993 said:
That “burnout” took us from 7-8 win seasons to 10+ wins and an appearance in a new year six bowl game for three straight years. One down year doesn’t erase that especially when that down year would have been considered a successful season before he got here. He raised the bar and if he was still here, I think he would have won one of those games. Problem is Jimmy doesn’t have a track record like Pete.haie said:
Yet you don't agree with criticizing the burnout that dropped the Rose Bowl and subsequently mailed in the 8 win season.sonics1993 said:What mostly matters in recruiting is winning, sending guys to the NFL and location. The problem with UW is they haven’t won any big games and are coming off a eight win season. Compare that to a school like Ohio State that is coming off a playoff appearance or Oregon who just won a Rose bowl. UW’s biggest obstacle right now is showing recruits that they aren’t on a down turn.
Favored by the metrics in every game but one, Oregon at home where we blow a two touchdown lead.
Pete decides before the apple cup (probably realizes his offense is such shit he could actually lose to Leach at home) that he's done at Washington, comes out and admits that he's been burned out since before the apple cup.
You act like we're so lucky to have him. He had a formula that could win 10 games with decent experience and yet he still lost to a lot of shit coaches: Graham, Helton (I don't believe for a second UW should have lost that game in 2016), Mora, Guy who just dipped out of Colorado, etc.
Still not over him starting at 8-6 and quitting after 8-5. Beat Oregon just twice. My God. You could argue that he failed at Washington.
Cal who doesn't give a shit? Beavlet and cuog who are poor, and will always be poor? Stanford who really doesn't give a fuck, UCLA who doesn't give a fuck?
Arizona who's poor and only cares about basketball? Utah that is mountain west shit?
Arizona State, Colorado? Meh. Inherent problems for both.
We're competing with SC who's a mess and Oregon, which is a backwater shit school and location. Oregon just so happens to really care, but that's about it.
Who should we be lucky to be better than with Pete?
3/6 seasons were mediocre. 2-4 against Oregon. 2-4 against Stanford. No major bowl wins. That's a pretty bad tenure all things considered. -
Before Pete got here Washington was inherent problems. On paper, sure it’s easy to say Washington should win certain amount of games and conference titles but that’s not how it works. Just ask Texas, Miami or Florida State how difficult it is. Pete did a great job of building a winning culture and improving the roster talent every year. You are entitled to think whatever you like about Pete but I’m personally thankful he took this job.haie said:
What schools are you comparing us to?sonics1993 said:
I do feel like we were lucky to have as a head coach because it’s very hard to find a successful head coach in college especially when you compare the resources we have to other schools. As far as the fail thing, I don’t know how anyone could argue the Pete failed at Washington.haie said:
This wasn't a down year.sonics1993 said:
That “burnout” took us from 7-8 win seasons to 10+ wins and an appearance in a new year six bowl game for three straight years. One down year doesn’t erase that especially when that down year would have been considered a successful season before he got here. He raised the bar and if he was still here, I think he would have won one of those games. Problem is Jimmy doesn’t have a track record like Pete.haie said:
Yet you don't agree with criticizing the burnout that dropped the Rose Bowl and subsequently mailed in the 8 win season.sonics1993 said:What mostly matters in recruiting is winning, sending guys to the NFL and location. The problem with UW is they haven’t won any big games and are coming off a eight win season. Compare that to a school like Ohio State that is coming off a playoff appearance or Oregon who just won a Rose bowl. UW’s biggest obstacle right now is showing recruits that they aren’t on a down turn.
Favored by the metrics in every game but one, Oregon at home where we blow a two touchdown lead.
Pete decides before the apple cup (probably realizes his offense is such shit he could actually lose to Leach at home) that he's done at Washington, comes out and admits that he's been burned out since before the apple cup.
You act like we're so lucky to have him. He had a formula that could win 10 games with decent experience and yet he still lost to a lot of shit coaches: Graham, Helton (I don't believe for a second UW should have lost that game in 2016), Mora, Guy who just dipped out of Colorado, etc.
Still not over him starting at 8-6 and quitting after 8-5. Beat Oregon just twice. My God. You could argue that he failed at Washington.
Cal who doesn't give a shit? Beavlet and cuog who are poor, and will always be poor? Stanford who really doesn't give a fuck, UCLA who doesn't give a fuck?
Arizona who's poor and only cares about basketball? Utah that is mountain west shit?
Arizona State, Colorado? Meh. Inherent problems for both.
We're competing with SC who's a mess and Oregon, which is a backwater shit school and location. Oregon just so happens to really care, but that's about it.
Who should we be lucky to be better than with Pete?
3/6 seasons were mediocre. 2-4 against Oregon. 2-4 against Stanford. No major bowl wins. That's a pretty bad tenure all things considered.
