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  • insinceredawg
    insinceredawg Member Posts: 5,117

    dflea said:

    I expected more of a reaction from the Dow. Maybe the big reaction is it didn't go in the shitter again today.

    It jumped early on some oil deal between the Saudis and Ruskies. Fell back on historically bad unemployment and the usual shit we face these days. So far 19,000 has held as the bottom as we seem to be playing in the 21,000 range. I may open up a hedge fund.

    In other news gas prices are falling below 3$ a gallon in California even with the onerous taxes here. Too bad we aren't supposed to drive anywhere
    There was no deal. Trump was just making up bullshit as usual.


  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,968 Founders Club
    Actually I was making up the bullshit. I was wrong in saying there was a deal

    https://foxbusiness.com/markets/us-stocks-april-2-2020


    U.S. equity markets surrendered their gains Thursday afternoon after initially soaring in response to President Trump calling on Russia and Saudi Arabia to sharply cut oil production.

    Following Trump's announcement -- which sent West Texas Intermediate crude oil soaring by 35 percent to as high as $27.39 per barrel -- Saudi Arabia called on OPEC members, their allies and other countries to hold an urgent meeting "with aim of reaching a fair agreement to restore the desired balance of oil markets."

    Also on Thursday, China said it would begin filling up its reserves.


    The Dow Jones Industrial Average gained as many as 534 points, or 2.55 percent, before returning to the flat line. The S&P 500 and Nasdaq Composite rose as much as 2.55 percent and 1.92 percent, respectively.


    But I wasn't wrong
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,968 Founders Club
    Of course @insinceredawg continues to carry water for Putin. Water is wet.

    If there was no call why did the Saudis react?
  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,622 Founders Club
    Decent article about the domestic impact. Doog bot's stamp of approval.
  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,741 Founders Club
    EVEN A DUMMY LIKE ME UNDERSTOOD THAT. Caps lock is cruise control for cool.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,855

    Swaye said:

    Swaye said:

    I still don't get it. Going to need to really spell this out for the dumb red.

    As a drunken frat boy from a middling institution who majored in finance.....


    USA rules.
    Finally, something I can understand.


    How can I put this, it's like we sold someone our rolex at a premium and now in the financial crisis they are short dollars so they are selling us back the rolex at a discount. And even then, it's like we are giving them rez casino tokens instead while laughing in their face.

    Edit:oh right, and everyone in the whole trailer park is lining up to get this deal.
    YBFE
  • dflea
    dflea Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,287 Swaye's Wigwam

    dflea said:

    I expected more of a reaction from the Dow. Maybe the big reaction is it didn't go in the shitter again today.

    TBF this isn't a super change from the norm. As I've said many times, the US is the world reserve currency. The difference is that this crisis has solidified it's position as that and the FED is now openly acknowledging that instead of pretending otherwise. They have now made it easy to swap treasuries for dollars to create certainty in the world market for US treasuries. The only thing is, you are going to take a .25 shaving off as a premium.

    It boils down to the Fed is flexing it's muscles early rather than late in this crisis.

    Where else are people going to put their money now? Euros? Rubles? RMB? Oil? Bitcoin? Lol.

    Barring the American people voting for a socialist(could happen) the US should be the world reserve currency for another twenty years at least after this.
    I get it - it's like when your buddy decides to marry the chick he's been banging and living with for 7 years. It doesn't really change much, but making it official means he probably won't be getting many blowjobs. And she'll get half of his shit when the ship finally hits the rocks.
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781

    jecornel said:

    salemcoog said:

    Swaye said:

    I still don't get it. Going to need to really spell this out for the dumb red.

    We just basically had a forcible take over of the world economy. The US Fed is now the world's central bank. Anyone who doesn't play ball is going to be bent over and have the plunger inserted until it hits the back of their nasal cavity from the wrong direction.
    So what tactics can be used to hurt China? They are our true enemy, I do know our economies are co dependent and so we don't want to wreck them. But how do we make them feel pain economically without hurting ourselves in the process.

    They need greenbacks to run their economy. It already was hurting them. Now it will even more. We can charge them a premium for every dollar they need to conduct business on the world market.

    This is precisely what Russia and China didn't want.

    This is similar to after WW2 where the world economy was wrecked except for the US and we established the dollar as the reserve currency of "the west" but back then we had to have gold to back it.
    What a great move to move to a fiat currency from gold. Brilliant!!

    The Don had all the intel they needed about the virus late December. This was a bigger plan to crumble the economy. Mass surveillance is coming. Facial recognition is in Washington.

    You want to jackoff trump for cutting flights from china go for it. The federal response is and was garbage. It was clearly on purpose.


    I gotta hand it to you, your political ideology is in a fucking bizarre spot on the ole venn diagram. There aren't many ardent supporters of the gold standard who simultaneously despise Trump and bring him into every conversation unprompted.
    That's because he's clueless and prone to emotional thinking.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,764 Standard Supporter

    Of course @insinceredawg continues to carry water for Putin. Water is wet.

    If there was no call why did the Saudis react?

    Putin is the paramount of truth and goodness, don't you know?