Jake Heaps beat out for Kansas Qb1
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Top talent producing state superiority guyTequilla said:Which state of these 12 is Washington a better producer than from a talent standpoint?
Texas
California
Florida
Ohio
Michigan
Louisiana
Alabama
Georgia
Virginia
North Carolina
Pennsylvania
Maryland
Or if you want to go further how about comparing to states like Mississippi, South Carolina, Tennessee, Illinois, Oklahoma, and New Jersey.
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Interesting to see that the Elite 11 is pretty meaningless. After looking at TequillaTLDR's link to MgoBlog, I looked at the Elite 11 for 2010 and 2011 and found that they generally get about 1-2 out of 11 being significant contributors:
2010 had Teddy Bridgewater and Everett Gholson. No others that really saw the field.
2011 had Jameis Winston. Ditto. Mariota and Manziel were in this class but not Elite 11.
2008 was a good year for the Elite 11: Tajh Boyd (great), AJ McCarron (great), Zach Mettenberger (turned out well), Aaron Murray (great) , Geno Smith (great).
2007: Jacory Harris (meh), Blaine Gabbert (very good), Landry Jones (good), Andrew Luck (awesome), EJ Manuel (sucks).
2006: Stephen Garcia (lol), Tyrod Taylor (who?), Ryan Mallett (lol).
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Could also be that there hasn't been a ton of great QB play out there recently.
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The point being that if PGOS says that Washington is in the top 12 of talent producing states in the country, that it's just flat out wrong given the data.RoadDawg55 said:
Water is wet. Your posts are basically saying there is better talent in CA and Texas than Washington. I'm not sure what your point is.Tequilla said:Clearly there's going to be busts from good states and guys that are going to rise up from the middle of nowhere. In fact, I'm pretty sure that I said as much.
My point being that you have more evidence with good players from good states as to knowing whether they have the ability to rise up at competition levels or not.
And yes, you are absolutely right, part of good recruiting is being able to understand how much more you can get out of a player and then having the ability to get that talent out of them.
Moreover, that while clearly bigger states have better players, I do think that there's a certain amount of truth to big fish in a little pond having to prove themselves a bit when they are faced with a bit of competition. Some respond really well to that and step up their game to confirm that they are the big fish. Others get hit in the mouth and don't respond at all. In bigger states, while there is definitely still a bit of that going on, it's less pronounced compared to states where the difference between the great players and good players is more extreme. -
Now he's going to transfer. How many schools is this now?
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Haha.
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It will be a great day for some MAC or D2 program when they are able to sign a former #1 AB recruit in the nation.
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I'll bet Eastern Washington!
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Eastern's QB is a junior and broke records last year. He is better than Heaps. Montana's QB is better than Heaps too. He's going somewhere shitty. Maybe he already graduated and can go to a shitty FBS team that needs a QB.CokeGreaterThanPepsi said:I'll bet Eastern Washington!
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I still think WA is right around #12. Maryland, virginia, nc, etc., are all on equal or lesser footingTequilla said:
The point being that if PGOS says that Washington is in the top 12 of talent producing states in the country, that it's just flat out wrong given the data.RoadDawg55 said:
Water is wet. Your posts are basically saying there is better talent in CA and Texas than Washington. I'm not sure what your point is.Tequilla said:Clearly there's going to be busts from good states and guys that are going to rise up from the middle of nowhere. In fact, I'm pretty sure that I said as much.
My point being that you have more evidence with good players from good states as to knowing whether they have the ability to rise up at competition levels or not.
And yes, you are absolutely right, part of good recruiting is being able to understand how much more you can get out of a player and then having the ability to get that talent out of them.
Moreover, that while clearly bigger states have better players, I do think that there's a certain amount of truth to big fish in a little pond having to prove themselves a bit when they are faced with a bit of competition. Some respond really well to that and step up their game to confirm that they are the big fish. Others get hit in the mouth and don't respond at all. In bigger states, while there is definitely still a bit of that going on, it's less pronounced compared to states where the difference between the great players and good players is more extreme.
