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Is it possible both are true?RaceBannon said:
I don't feel like doing this on Twitter but I think our friend Pat is in an epic meltdown. Not TDS but very strangeGrundleStiltzkin said:
People confuse the mass hysteria with an actual crisis
We don't have one. Maybe we might someday. Maybe an asteroid will hit the earth
This will be in the psych books someday
My gut tells me we will look back at this and there will be questions as to whether these rather unique and unprecedented actions were necessary ... and that would be a good thing
The downside of not taking drastic actions are that we risk overwhelming the healthcare system, start having to make decisions as to who lives vs who dies, and have no chance at stopping the spread until it gets to be way too late.
Make no mistake everything that we are doing right now is buying time ... pure and simple. It’s what the numbers and models tells us.
Delaying hopefully gives us time to work on solutions, get the situation back into a controllable one, and hopefully get us into warmer temperatures which may help in slowing this down if it behaves like most viruses.
The market getting destroyed right now is irrational market behaviors at its finest where the short term focus dominates the long term. There’s no question there will be a 2020 impact. However, successful mitigation will not dramatically alter outlooks as most smart finance people make sure they have contingent working capital reserves in place exactly for situations like this. The biggest downside will be for companies over leveraged.
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Hi @BearsWiin - so the typhus didn't win!!!!?!BearsWiin said:
Race Contrarion, proudly licking doorknobs to own the libsRaceBannon said:I turned to my wife today and said when the mob runs this way then run the other way as fast as possible. You won't go wrong
She looked at me and said you know that's something to think about
Being a contrarian has it advantages
I need to unplug. Maybe watch some golf or basketball
Wait
Welcome home, Komrade
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He and the other schmucks in the media have been saying the same thing for 3 years about Trump...it’s why nobody outside of NY/DC listens to or believes them anymore.GrundleStiltzkin said:
People are going to be freaking out for the next couple weeks, and by mid-April it’s all going to be disappearing and we will be on to the next crisis.
The problem for the TDS folks is that if it doesn’t start killing hundreds of thousands of folks (or now millions with Obama’s crew chiming in) that they are scaring everybody into thinking it should...it lets the folks in charge (I.e. Trump) take a victory lap at their expense. They have built up such a crisis that anything less than a complete catastrophe looks like the folks in charge pulled off a miracle.
Not too much into the prediction game but I bet Biden will be really claiming that Trump copied his recommends after Trump takes a victory lap this summer.
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I leave that to your Iranian palsBearsWiin said:
Race Contrarion, proudly licking doorknobs to own the libsRaceBannon said:I turned to my wife today and said when the mob runs this way then run the other way as fast as possible. You won't go wrong
She looked at me and said you know that's something to think about
Being a contrarian has it advantages
I need to unplug. Maybe watch some golf or basketball
Wait
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Hardy har har, agreeWilburHooksHands said:this was pretty much my point
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God willing we get to that point quickly, Trump will take lap after distasteful lap.HoustonHusky said:
He and the other schmucks in the media have been saying the same thing for 3 years about Trump...it’s why nobody outside of NY/DC listens to or believes them anymore.GrundleStiltzkin said:
People are going to be freaking out for the next couple weeks, and by mid-April it’s all going to be disappearing and we will be on to the next crisis.
The problem for the TDS folks is that if it doesn’t start killing hundreds of thousands of folks (or now millions with Obama’s crew chiming in) that they are scaring everybody into thinking it should...it lets the folks in charge (I.e. Trump) take a victory lap at their expense. They have built up such a crisis that anything less than a complete catastrophe looks like the folks in charge pulled off a miracle.
Not too much into the prediction game but I bet Biden will be really claiming that Trump copied his recommends after Trump takes a victory lap this summer. -
If you get the blame why not take the credit
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I will laugh uproariously, but still feel a little dirty about it.RaceBannon said:If you get the blame why not take the credit
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Yep. If there were no Facechats, Twatter (r i p @GrundleStiltzkin ), Grindr, etc., the markets wouldn't have plummeted as they did and schools would not be closed across the country right now. Most if not All the sports would still be on, most without crowds and Epstein didn't kill himself.RaceBannon said:This is an internet sensation
Cancelling everything is the worst thing they could do. Completely driven by fear of being trashed on social media
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No, but the sinkhole is a 4th quarter team.PurpleThrobber said:
Hi @BearsWiin - so the typhus didn't win!!!!?!BearsWiin said:
Race Contrarion, proudly licking doorknobs to own the libsRaceBannon said:I turned to my wife today and said when the mob runs this way then run the other way as fast as possible. You won't go wrong
She looked at me and said you know that's something to think about
Being a contrarian has it advantages
I need to unplug. Maybe watch some golf or basketball
Wait
Welcome home, Komrade -
Was it Race or Warren Buffet that said, when people are being greedy, be nervous. When people are being nervous, be greedy. RACE HAS DONE IT AGAIN!RaceBannon said:I turned to my wife today and said when the mob runs this way then run the other way as fast as possible. You won't go wrong
She looked at me and said you know that's something to think about
Being a contrarian has it advantages
I need to unplug. Maybe watch some golf or basketball
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Its one of the few times in my life that my wife actually paid attention to what I said
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Go look at the spread of SARS or the annual flu/etc. Late March is always the peak, and by mid-April new cases are falling off the cliff. There are several reason for it...ask most doctors and they will tell you the same. Nothing about this says it will behave any differently.GrundleStiltzkin said:
God willing we get to that point quickly, Trump will take lap after distasteful lap.HoustonHusky said:
He and the other schmucks in the media have been saying the same thing for 3 years about Trump...it’s why nobody outside of NY/DC listens to or believes them anymore.GrundleStiltzkin said:
People are going to be freaking out for the next couple weeks, and by mid-April it’s all going to be disappearing and we will be on to the next crisis.
The problem for the TDS folks is that if it doesn’t start killing hundreds of thousands of folks (or now millions with Obama’s crew chiming in) that they are scaring everybody into thinking it should...it lets the folks in charge (I.e. Trump) take a victory lap at their expense. They have built up such a crisis that anything less than a complete catastrophe looks like the folks in charge pulled off a miracle.
Not too much into the prediction game but I bet Biden will be really claiming that Trump copied his recommends after Trump takes a victory lap this summer.
It’s also why Trump way back when said this will be going away by mid-April...some doctor told him the same thing back then. Now we are going to be testing for it, so expect a little chaos between now and then as the number of known cases go up before they start coming down. -
I know that was the unspoken but implied point of your original postRaceBannon said:Its one of the few times in my life that my wife actually paid attention to what I said
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Trump’s Wasted Briefings
The sessions have become a boring show of President vs. the press.
A friend of ours who voted for President Trump sent us a note recently saying that she had stopped watching the daily White House briefings of the coronavirus task force. Why? Because they have become less about defeating the virus and more about the many feuds of Donald J. Trump.
The briefings began as a good idea to educate the public about the dangers of the virus, how Americans should change their behavior, and what the government is doing to combat it. They showed seriousness of purpose, action to mobilize public and private resources, and a sense of optimism. Mr. Trump benefitted in the polls not because he was the center of attention but because he showed he had put together a team of experts working to overcome a national health crisis.
But sometime in the last three weeks Mr. Trump seems to have concluded that the briefings could be a showcase for him. Perhaps they substitute in his mind for the campaign rallies he can no longer hold because of the risks. Perhaps he resented the media adulation that New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo has been receiving for his daily show. Whatever the reason, the briefings are now all about the President.
They last for 90 minutes or more, and Mr. Trump dominates the stage. His first-rate health experts have become supporting actors, and sometimes barely that, ushered on stage to answer a technical question or two. Vice President Mike Pence, who leads the task force, doesn’t get on stage until the last 15 minutes or so. That becomes the most informative part of the session, since Mr. Pence understandably knows details the President doesn’t.
Mr. Trump opens each briefing by running through a blizzard of facts and numbers showing what the government is doing—this many tests, that many masks, so many ventilators going from here to there, and what a great job he’s doing. Then Mr. Trump opens the door for questions, and the session deteriorates into a dispiriting brawl between the President and his antagonists in the White House press corps.
One of the ironies of this Presidency is that Mr. Trump claims to despise the press yet so eagerly plays its game. Every reporter knows the way to get a TV moment, and get a pat on the back from newsroom pals, is to bait Mr. Trump with a question about his previous statements or about criticism that someone has leveled against him. Mr. Trump always takes the bait.
On Tuesday Mr. Trump was asked, in a typically tendentious question, why he had compared the coronavirus to the flu. Instead of saying he had been hoping for the best but was wrong when he'd said that, he got into a fight over the severity of the flu. This sort of exchange usually devolves into a useless squabble that helps Mr. Trump’s critics and contributes little to public understanding.
The President’s outbursts against his political critics are also notably off key at this moment. This isn’t impeachment, and Covid-19 isn’t shifty Schiff. It’s a once-a-century threat to American life and livelihood.
The public doesn’t care who among the governors likes Mr. Trump, or whether the Obama Administration filled the national pandemic stockpile. There will be time for recriminations. What the public wants to know now is what Mr. Trump and his government is doing to prevent the deaths of their loved ones or help the family breadwinner stay employed.
If Mr. Trump thinks these daily sessions will help him defeat Joe Biden, he’s wrong. This election is now about one issue: how well the public thinks the President has done in defeating the virus and restarting the economy. If Americans conclude he succeeded in a crisis, they will forgive him for reacting more slowly than he and many others might have in January. But on that score, voters will be persuaded by what they see in their lives and communities come the autumn. They will judge Mr. Trump by the results, not by how well he says he did.
If Mr. Trump wants to make his briefings more helpful to the country, here’s our advice. Make them no more than 45 minutes, except on rare occasions. Let Mr. Pence lead them each day, focusing on one issue or problem. Mr. Pence can take the questions, and Mr. Trump can show up twice a week to reinforce the message. Maybe then our friend who was a Trump voter might start watching again.
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Does anyone besides Harv listen to those?
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What I want to know is what kind of watch is the dude in this gif wearing?GrundleStiltzkin said:Trump’s Wasted Briefings
The sessions have become a boring show of President vs. the press.
A friend of ours who voted for President Trump sent us a note recently saying that she had stopped watching the daily White House briefings of the coronavirus task force. Why? Because they have become less about defeating the virus and more about the many feuds of Donald J. Trump.
The briefings began as a good idea to educate the public about the dangers of the virus, how Americans should change their behavior, and what the government is doing to combat it. They showed seriousness of purpose, action to mobilize public and private resources, and a sense of optimism. Mr. Trump benefitted in the polls not because he was the center of attention but because he showed he had put together a team of experts working to overcome a national health crisis.
But sometime in the last three weeks Mr. Trump seems to have concluded that the briefings could be a showcase for him. Perhaps they substitute in his mind for the campaign rallies he can no longer hold because of the risks. Perhaps he resented the media adulation that New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo has been receiving for his daily show. Whatever the reason, the briefings are now all about the President.
They last for 90 minutes or more, and Mr. Trump dominates the stage. His first-rate health experts have become supporting actors, and sometimes barely that, ushered on stage to answer a technical question or two. Vice President Mike Pence, who leads the task force, doesn’t get on stage until the last 15 minutes or so. That becomes the most informative part of the session, since Mr. Pence understandably knows details the President doesn’t.
Mr. Trump opens each briefing by running through a blizzard of facts and numbers showing what the government is doing—this many tests, that many masks, so many ventilators going from here to there, and what a great job he’s doing. Then Mr. Trump opens the door for questions, and the session deteriorates into a dispiriting brawl between the President and his antagonists in the White House press corps.
One of the ironies of this Presidency is that Mr. Trump claims to despise the press yet so eagerly plays its game. Every reporter knows the way to get a TV moment, and get a pat on the back from newsroom pals, is to bait Mr. Trump with a question about his previous statements or about criticism that someone has leveled against him. Mr. Trump always takes the bait.
On Tuesday Mr. Trump was asked, in a typically tendentious question, why he had compared the coronavirus to the flu. Instead of saying he had been hoping for the best but was wrong when he'd said that, he got into a fight over the severity of the flu. This sort of exchange usually devolves into a useless squabble that helps Mr. Trump’s critics and contributes little to public understanding.
The President’s outbursts against his political critics are also notably off key at this moment. This isn’t impeachment, and Covid-19 isn’t shifty Schiff. It’s a once-a-century threat to American life and livelihood.
The public doesn’t care who among the governors likes Mr. Trump, or whether the Obama Administration filled the national pandemic stockpile. There will be time for recriminations. What the public wants to know now is what Mr. Trump and his government is doing to prevent the deaths of their loved ones or help the family breadwinner stay employed.
If Mr. Trump thinks these daily sessions will help him defeat Joe Biden, he’s wrong. This election is now about one issue: how well the public thinks the President has done in defeating the virus and restarting the economy. If Americans conclude he succeeded in a crisis, they will forgive him for reacting more slowly than he and many others might have in January. But on that score, voters will be persuaded by what they see in their lives and communities come the autumn. They will judge Mr. Trump by the results, not by how well he says he did.
If Mr. Trump wants to make his briefings more helpful to the country, here’s our advice. Make them no more than 45 minutes, except on rare occasions. Let Mr. Pence lead them each day, focusing on one issue or problem. Mr. Pence can take the questions, and Mr. Trump can show up twice a week to reinforce the message. Maybe then our friend who was a Trump voter might start watching again. -
A black one.ThomasFremont said:
What I want to know is what kind of watch is the dude in this gif wearing?GrundleStiltzkin said:Trump’s Wasted Briefings
The sessions have become a boring show of President vs. the press.
A friend of ours who voted for President Trump sent us a note recently saying that she had stopped watching the daily White House briefings of the coronavirus task force. Why? Because they have become less about defeating the virus and more about the many feuds of Donald J. Trump.
The briefings began as a good idea to educate the public about the dangers of the virus, how Americans should change their behavior, and what the government is doing to combat it. They showed seriousness of purpose, action to mobilize public and private resources, and a sense of optimism. Mr. Trump benefitted in the polls not because he was the center of attention but because he showed he had put together a team of experts working to overcome a national health crisis.
But sometime in the last three weeks Mr. Trump seems to have concluded that the briefings could be a showcase for him. Perhaps they substitute in his mind for the campaign rallies he can no longer hold because of the risks. Perhaps he resented the media adulation that New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo has been receiving for his daily show. Whatever the reason, the briefings are now all about the President.
They last for 90 minutes or more, and Mr. Trump dominates the stage. His first-rate health experts have become supporting actors, and sometimes barely that, ushered on stage to answer a technical question or two. Vice President Mike Pence, who leads the task force, doesn’t get on stage until the last 15 minutes or so. That becomes the most informative part of the session, since Mr. Pence understandably knows details the President doesn’t.
Mr. Trump opens each briefing by running through a blizzard of facts and numbers showing what the government is doing—this many tests, that many masks, so many ventilators going from here to there, and what a great job he’s doing. Then Mr. Trump opens the door for questions, and the session deteriorates into a dispiriting brawl between the President and his antagonists in the White House press corps.
One of the ironies of this Presidency is that Mr. Trump claims to despise the press yet so eagerly plays its game. Every reporter knows the way to get a TV moment, and get a pat on the back from newsroom pals, is to bait Mr. Trump with a question about his previous statements or about criticism that someone has leveled against him. Mr. Trump always takes the bait.
On Tuesday Mr. Trump was asked, in a typically tendentious question, why he had compared the coronavirus to the flu. Instead of saying he had been hoping for the best but was wrong when he'd said that, he got into a fight over the severity of the flu. This sort of exchange usually devolves into a useless squabble that helps Mr. Trump’s critics and contributes little to public understanding.
The President’s outbursts against his political critics are also notably off key at this moment. This isn’t impeachment, and Covid-19 isn’t shifty Schiff. It’s a once-a-century threat to American life and livelihood.
The public doesn’t care who among the governors likes Mr. Trump, or whether the Obama Administration filled the national pandemic stockpile. There will be time for recriminations. What the public wants to know now is what Mr. Trump and his government is doing to prevent the deaths of their loved ones or help the family breadwinner stay employed.
If Mr. Trump thinks these daily sessions will help him defeat Joe Biden, he’s wrong. This election is now about one issue: how well the public thinks the President has done in defeating the virus and restarting the economy. If Americans conclude he succeeded in a crisis, they will forgive him for reacting more slowly than he and many others might have in January. But on that score, voters will be persuaded by what they see in their lives and communities come the autumn. They will judge Mr. Trump by the results, not by how well he says he did.
If Mr. Trump wants to make his briefings more helpful to the country, here’s our advice. Make them no more than 45 minutes, except on rare occasions. Let Mr. Pence lead them each day, focusing on one issue or problem. Mr. Pence can take the questions, and Mr. Trump can show up twice a week to reinforce the message. Maybe then our friend who was a Trump voter might start watching again. -
AATBWYPurpleThrobber said:
A black one.ThomasFremont said:
What I want to know is what kind of watch is the dude in this gif wearing?GrundleStiltzkin said:Trump’s Wasted Briefings
The sessions have become a boring show of President vs. the press.
A friend of ours who voted for President Trump sent us a note recently saying that she had stopped watching the daily White House briefings of the coronavirus task force. Why? Because they have become less about defeating the virus and more about the many feuds of Donald J. Trump.
The briefings began as a good idea to educate the public about the dangers of the virus, how Americans should change their behavior, and what the government is doing to combat it. They showed seriousness of purpose, action to mobilize public and private resources, and a sense of optimism. Mr. Trump benefitted in the polls not because he was the center of attention but because he showed he had put together a team of experts working to overcome a national health crisis.
But sometime in the last three weeks Mr. Trump seems to have concluded that the briefings could be a showcase for him. Perhaps they substitute in his mind for the campaign rallies he can no longer hold because of the risks. Perhaps he resented the media adulation that New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo has been receiving for his daily show. Whatever the reason, the briefings are now all about the President.
They last for 90 minutes or more, and Mr. Trump dominates the stage. His first-rate health experts have become supporting actors, and sometimes barely that, ushered on stage to answer a technical question or two. Vice President Mike Pence, who leads the task force, doesn’t get on stage until the last 15 minutes or so. That becomes the most informative part of the session, since Mr. Pence understandably knows details the President doesn’t.
Mr. Trump opens each briefing by running through a blizzard of facts and numbers showing what the government is doing—this many tests, that many masks, so many ventilators going from here to there, and what a great job he’s doing. Then Mr. Trump opens the door for questions, and the session deteriorates into a dispiriting brawl between the President and his antagonists in the White House press corps.
One of the ironies of this Presidency is that Mr. Trump claims to despise the press yet so eagerly plays its game. Every reporter knows the way to get a TV moment, and get a pat on the back from newsroom pals, is to bait Mr. Trump with a question about his previous statements or about criticism that someone has leveled against him. Mr. Trump always takes the bait.
On Tuesday Mr. Trump was asked, in a typically tendentious question, why he had compared the coronavirus to the flu. Instead of saying he had been hoping for the best but was wrong when he'd said that, he got into a fight over the severity of the flu. This sort of exchange usually devolves into a useless squabble that helps Mr. Trump’s critics and contributes little to public understanding.
The President’s outbursts against his political critics are also notably off key at this moment. This isn’t impeachment, and Covid-19 isn’t shifty Schiff. It’s a once-a-century threat to American life and livelihood.
The public doesn’t care who among the governors likes Mr. Trump, or whether the Obama Administration filled the national pandemic stockpile. There will be time for recriminations. What the public wants to know now is what Mr. Trump and his government is doing to prevent the deaths of their loved ones or help the family breadwinner stay employed.
If Mr. Trump thinks these daily sessions will help him defeat Joe Biden, he’s wrong. This election is now about one issue: how well the public thinks the President has done in defeating the virus and restarting the economy. If Americans conclude he succeeded in a crisis, they will forgive him for reacting more slowly than he and many others might have in January. But on that score, voters will be persuaded by what they see in their lives and communities come the autumn. They will judge Mr. Trump by the results, not by how well he says he did.
If Mr. Trump wants to make his briefings more helpful to the country, here’s our advice. Make them no more than 45 minutes, except on rare occasions. Let Mr. Pence lead them each day, focusing on one issue or problem. Mr. Pence can take the questions, and Mr. Trump can show up twice a week to reinforce the message. Maybe then our friend who was a Trump voter might start watching again. -
Karen (lulz) hasn't read the WSJ editorial bored very closely. -
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Known leftist rag the WSJ...
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WSJ editorial board has been... optimistically skeptical (For lack of a better term) of Trump since the beginning. Columnists are a different story. But even then there’s a few that haven’t been afraid to point out Trump is really a Dem.
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This is Trump at his worst.GrundleStiltzkin said: -
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If i like my corona, can I keep it?RaceBannon said: -
NO. You must switch to state approved Modelo.Swaye said:
If i like my corona, can I keep it?RaceBannon said:
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Just got a notice from my insurance company that all deductible, copays, and out of network restrictions are waved if you get the Rona. ILTCITRaceBannon said:
